A new SNK console - thoughtful discussion

It's been a long, long time since the AES was launched. A bit too long for some of us. Hands up all those who'd love to see a follow-up to our beloved Neo-Geo?

Ok, put your hands down, there's quite a few of you. I have to admit, the second SNKP announced any information regarding a new machine in the works, I would be more than happy to sell everything just to be able to touch one. (Even my beloved Dreamcast, which I have taken to calling "Brian". My girlfriend is less than amused)

But, let's face facts - it can't be exactly like the Neo we all know and love.

First of all, the media on which the games would be stored. I personally love carts, but also believe that SNK would be shooting themselves in the foot if they were to go ahead and use them on a new console. With a rocket launcher.

GD-ROM would be nice, it would be nice to see it adopted by other companies than Sega. Nintendo's proprietary discs would be nicer, but something tells me they're not going to release much information on them that amounts to anything more than "um, they're kinda small".

Controllers: sticks are a necessity, but a good quality pad is going to be useful too. Joe Average Gamer may be a little intimidated by something along the lines of the original Neo-Geo sticks - a nice pad that is actually useful for playing fighting games would come into its own.

Games can make or break a system. In our ideal world, we'd have everything the Hyper64 promised and more. Follow-ups to all the important franchises - Fatal Fury, Art of Fighting, Metal Slug, KoF, Samurai Shodown - would all need to be made for our hypothetical system, but good third-party support would be ideal. Could one imagine the likes of Konami, Sega, even - dare I say it - Capcom releasing games on an SNK system?

Well, I've raved on long enough. Anyone else got any good ideas? (If we hurry we could get the patents by next Wednesday!)

Well if it were up to me i would just have a 16 bit throw back system but,that would only be good for the 16 bit puritans like me,the average gamer would be turned off. I think online features would be a must,perhaps secret characters that can be downloaded for the fighters or maybe extra missions and vehicles for Metal Slug.

How about an official Atomiswave console with the exact same slot for roms (another word for carts) as the arcade counterpart?

the roker said:

How about an official Atomiswave console with the exact same slot for roms (another word for carts) as the arcade counterpart?

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That'd be great, then we could have endless debates about whats better, Atomiswave or the Atomiswave Home System.

But i don't think Sammy has any intention of putting out a home console. I don't think there ever will be a Neo Geo 2 (god lets hope they could think of a better name) i just don't think its feasble in todays market. If it did come out it would have to have 3rd party support, i'm not going to buy a home console that only gets fighters, shooters, and beat'em ups. I need my rpg's, platformers, and adventure games too. Now if Sega and SNK were to merge and create some Uber Sega Neo Savior console, i'd buy it.

Lagduf said:

That'd be great, then we could have endless debates about whats better, Atomiswave or the Atomiswave Home System.

But i don't think Sammy has any intention of putting out a home console. I don't think there ever will be a Neo Geo 2 (god lets hope they could think of a better name) i just don't think its feasble in todays market. If it did come out it would have to have 3rd party support, i'm not going to buy a home console that only gets fighters, shooters, and beat'em ups. I need my rpg's, platformers, and adventure games too. Now if Sega and SNK were to merge and create some Uber Sega Neo Savior console, i'd buy it.

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The only debate I could see is foreseeable is over video output, other than that there'd be nothing to debate over. It'd be a simple cab vs. console debate.

I don't see why it wouldn't work if it was made for the niche market in mind. Its not like the Neo Geo was ever considered a mainstream console. As long as we get good releases, then people will support, very much like the Neo has been over the years.

Lagduf said:

That'd be great, then we could have endless debates about whats better, Atomiswave or the Atomiswave Home System.

But i don't think Sammy has any intention of putting out a home console. I don't think there ever will be a Neo Geo 2 (god lets hope they could think of a better name) i just don't think its feasble in todays market. If it did come out it would have to have 3rd party support, i'm not going to buy a home console that only gets fighters, shooters, and beat'em ups. I need my rpg's, platformers, and adventure games too. Now if Sega and SNK were to merge and create some Uber Sega Neo Savior console, i'd buy it.

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the roker said:

The only debate I could see is foreseeable is over video output, other than that there'd be nothing to debate over. It'd be a simple cab vs. console debate.

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*cough* was referring to mvs vs. ngh debate *cough*

Lagduf said:

*cough* was referring to mvs vs. ngh debate *cough*

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*cough* my original post said a console using the same carts (arcade and home) *cough* *puke*

About the only way we are going to see a new Neo home console is if one of us build it ourselves.

And, as everyone has seen, if they build the Arcade hardware, we can consolize it.


I would say thats about the only way you are going to see any new Neo home machines.

So, get those soldering irons warmed up and get the creative juices a flowin'.

I would like a new neo system if they decided to make it a 2D monster. We dont need another 3D system, we dont need 3D Neo-Geo.

NebraskaDragon said:

I would like a new neo system if they decided to make it a 2D monster. We dont need another 3D system, we dont need 3D Neo-Geo.

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Yeah, but who wants to keep seeing 2d fighters? I don't have a problem with a monster 2d powered system, but I ain't all that interested in seeing KoF 2007 or Metal Slug 9 (well, maybe I am).


They need to get back to games with some diversity. Shooters, puzzle games, sports, fighting, blow shit up games...you name it.

the roker said:

*cough* my original post said a console using the same carts (arcade and home) *cough* *puke*

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Your right, your post did say that. Whats your point? And im sorry you vomited, hope things didn't get to messy.

As to the theoretical homesystem using the same carts as the arcade, well i just don't think that would work. That would mean arcade owners could just purchase the cheaper home system carts and plug it into thier motherboard since both formats will be exactly the same. I'm sure that would lead to all kinds of fun piracy issues.

I agree with Broken, bust out those soldering irons and consolize like crazy. Your own creation will always be better then one you can buy.

Oh and yes we do need 3D. Don't fool yourself. There is absolutely nothing wrong with 3D games at all. They just have to be done right, and the same applies to 2D games. I've played just as many horrible 3D games as 2D games.

Lagduf said:

Your right, your post did say that. Whats your point? And im sorry you vomited, hope things didn't get to messy.

As to the theoretical homesystem using the same carts as the arcade, well i just don't think that would work. That would mean arcade owners could just purchase the cheaper home system carts and plug it into thier motherboard since both formats will be exactly the same. I'm sure that would lead to all kinds of fun piracy issues.

I agree with Broken, bust out those soldering irons and consolize like crazy. Your own creation will always be better then one you can buy.

Oh and yes we do need 3D. Don't fool yourself. There is absolutely nothing wrong with 3D games at all. They just have to be done right, and the same applies to 2D games. I've played just as many horrible 3D games as 2D games.

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Not if everything was keep at a constant price.

the roker said:

Not if everything was keep at a constant price.

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I'm not sure i understand what you mean.

Something that would be backwards combatable or have an adapter for the old games.

How about if they made it so both the console and arcade machine accepted the same carts and everything. Only difference is one machine requires a JAMMA harness and arcade monitor and the other is made to be used with a t.v.

Keep prices the same no matter what (maybe make the console more expensive).

Then the carts would be expensive when first released (like most games released), then after a certain time period they will be released with a lower price.

Now what do you think?

the roker said:

How about if they made it so both the console and arcade machine accepted the same carts and everything. Only difference is one machine requires a JAMMA harness and arcade monitor and the other is made to be used with a t.v.

Keep prices the same no matter what (maybe make the console more expensive).

Then the carts would be expensive when first released (like most games released), then after a certain time period they will be released with a lower price.

Now what do you think?

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So they would release an arcade cart and a home cart, even though they are both the same thing?

I guess if arcade hardware and home console accepted the same low cost cart, it'd be alright.

Lagduf said:

So they would release an arcade cart and a home cart, even though they are both the same thing?

I guess if arcade hardware and home console accepted the same low cost cart, it'd be alright.

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Well as it is, you can get Guilty Gear and a Atomiswave board for 450 dollars.

the roker said:

Well as it is, you can get Guilty Gear and a Atomiswave board for 450 dollars.

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True, but at the same time a Dolphin Blue kit (with motherboard) is $886.00.

Regardless i hope some kick ass stuff comes out on atomiswave.

broken said:

Yeah, but who wants to keep seeing 2d fighters? I don't have a problem with a monster 2d powered system, but I ain't all that interested in seeing KoF 2007 or Metal Slug 9 (well, maybe I am).


They need to get back to games with some diversity. Shooters, puzzle games, sports, fighting, blow shit up games...you name it.

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Yeah if all they are going to make is new fighters then forget it. We need new games in all genres.

NebraskaDragon said:

Yeah if all they are going to make is new fighters then forget it. We need new games in all genres.

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beat'em ups, shooters, platformers, action, puzzle, Hentai Majong

the roker said:

Hentai Majong

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That is a genre i could live without.

Lagduf said:

That is a genre i could live without.

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You gottta keep the older Japanese population happy.

I definitely think they should enter it. I think SNK should create a new state-of-the-art console so they can secure their postions as one of the best ever. I'm already so excited about playing future SNK games in hi-res!! The Neo-Geo hardware is simply so outdated compared to today's games. SNK sure had a handicap. I really look forward too seeing SNK's new games. Can anyone say KOF 2004!!! Anyways, If they could only restart production of the AES Neo-Geo console and a much lower price; that would be so freaking awesome!! It would be so cool if SNK rereleased their older games at a lower price too!!

A new run of the AES hardware would be a great idea - not only would it allow those with low budgets to enjoy the games the way they were meant to be played ( without having to resort to teh romz ), but could get a whole new generation of gamers into the Neo-Geo. I can just imagine the Argos catalogue...