Final Fantasy Tactics advance anyone?

I was just wondering if anyone picked this title up and what they thought of it so far.

Matt

the law system pisses me off. I had a fight against a bunch of monsters and the 1st law was that I couldn't damage monsters.

I had to reset after my main character was red carded.

laws only hurt the player, not the computer. They are completely bullshit.

The race system is gay. I like the jobs, but they aren't anything more than copies of each other for the most part. the fighter gladiator mog knight? all the white and black mages? I liked the old system more from FFT. FFT is still the best.

Don't get me wrong though, I'm going to play through the game, and then plan to play through a second time.

Wow, I don't even konw the game is out already.

Picking it up soon.

ray_7 said:

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wow

Stop with the grammar par excellance!

The law system gets annoying to me as well. I still like the game alot though.

EvilWasabi said:

the law system pisses me off. I had a fight against a bunch of monsters and the 1st law was that I couldn't damage monsters.

I had to reset after my main character was red carded.

laws only hurt the player, not the computer. They are completely bullshit.

The race system is gay. I like the jobs, but they aren't anything more than copies of each other for the most part. the fighter gladiator mog knight? all the white and black mages? I liked the old system more from FFT. FFT is still the best.

Don't get me wrong though, I'm going to play through the game, and then plan to play through a second time.

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Tell me about it. I've reached a fight with a mage and a group of monsters and the law restricts using the "fight" command. WTF?! you have to use spells. Good luck with only one mage.

That issue aside, it's a worthy game. It will take time to master.

GregN. said:

Tell me about it. I've reached a fight with a mage and a group of monsters and the law restricts using the "fight" command. WTF?! you have to use spells. Good luck with only one mage.

That issue aside, it's a worthy game. It will take time to master.

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Well, depending on your characters' "A" abilities, you might be able to do alright. If you have an Animist with Catnip, use it on your enemies to Berserk them. They'll only be able to "Fight" and they'll be picked off one by one.

What the hell are you guys complaining about? I don't have the game and I don't know if I want it (I tend to hate Strat RPGs), but the law thing sounds great. Truly hardcore elements in RPGs are so rare. Laws sound like they make you mix it up a little. On the original FFT, the only reason not to cheese through the entire second half of the game using Orlandu was if you were challenging yourself in some way. That was one of the game's hugest downfalls. The laws sound like they would fix that.

i laughed when a totema got a yellow card for hitting my thief...it was classic.

no joke,
M-A-D

I'm picking up this title soon. It interests me even though I rarely like rpgs.

Damm,i was really looking forward to this game...
..why on earth did they f**k around with the gameplay anyway??

It was good enough on the Ps-version.

Marco's Arms Dealer said:

i laughed when a totema got a yellow card for hitting my thief...it was classic.

no joke,
M-A-D

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Problem is, however, that they can't get red cards. Some of the guys have "ribbons" if you look at them on the map that prevent them from getting red-carded. One must speculate as to what the ribbon means... perhaps a token of appreciation for "campaign contributions"?

ya know, the more I hear about this game the more I want to run out, pick up a GBA player and this game...But first I want to finish PN03 and Disgaea(and I'm only about 45 mins into Disgaea!)
Anybody want o write a review on this game?

Herzog Drei said:

Damm,i was really looking forward to this game...
..why on earth did they f**k around with the gameplay anyway??

It was good enough on the Ps-version.

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If there is a reason at all to use a gameshark, it is to use the no-laws code. There is such a code out already.

I'm still waiting for mine in the mail

Blah-blah-blah... The law system rules!!!... I use the "Forbidden Missile" whenever I fight lots of archers and gunners... That totally freezes them to just move and not do anything else!!! !!! You can always change the rules you're gonna be dealing with by moving around.... Check the rules you gonna be dealing with by pressing "L" in the world map...

And FINALLY your MP increases with each round!!!... That's a good thing!!!

Call me crazy, but Im heading out to the store and picking up Boktai first.

seba_boi said:

Blah-blah-blah... The law system rules!!!... I use the "Forbidden Missile" whenever I fight lots of archers and gunners... That totally freezes them to just move and not do anything else!!! !!! You can always change the rules you're gonna be dealing with by moving around.... Check the rules you gonna be dealing with by pressing "L" in the world map...

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I've heard a lot about this 'law' system. I'm guessing it could be good and bad. Good because it forces you to use strategy and Bad because it Forces you to use strategy. Yeah, you can get around the laws but I could see how this could get annoying.

And FINALLY your MP increases with each round!!!... That's a good thing!!!

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Depends on how you look at it. So that means that black mages can basically walk around using their strongest magic attack almost all the time? What about Ct and stuff? How many characters can you create? Is the job system still intact? What about secondary skills (Knight with 2 sword ability )
And most importantly what about the story? I haven't looked around much but I haven't heard anyone saying much about the story this time around UGH!!! Will someone PLEASE give me some sort of review on this game. I tend to not want to read the ones on Gamefaqs because sometimes some of those clowns have only played 10 mins of the game and don't fully understand what's happening yet.

I love the game. 45-50 hrs I don't remember off hand but I'm throught the game already just going back to do the jobs I didn't yet.
The Law system is really not all that bad after you get used to it. Not to mention that you can negate the laws with the black cards. Really easy to get around.
And yes the computer players can go to jail to. It does not happen often but it will happen. Usually they will only get a yellow card. Oh and if the player has a metal next to their name they can break the law as often as possable with only getting yellow cards.
This does add a bit to the game so you don't go around using the same technique all the time to fudge your way through. Gives the game a bit of an edge over the other Strat RPGs.

Just got mine from EB.

Damn the graphic is gorgeous.

johnroche said:

Problem is, however, that they can't get red cards. Some of the guys have "ribbons" if you look at them on the map that prevent them from getting red-carded. One must speculate as to what the ribbon means... perhaps a token of appreciation for "campaign contributions"?

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yeah I know, still funny nonetheless, a big boss gets a yellow card...how stupid is the AI for the first boss.

well if you don't like laws fight, guilds at the Jaghd, or start earning those R1-4 Antilaws cards.

Well, I'm definitely loving this game. I think the laws and antilaws add a great dimension to the game. In the original FFT after a certain point, battles were all the same and I could never even break a sweat, much less lose. Here I find myself coming up with new strategies all the time when certain things are outlawed, and I find it keeps my army nice & diverse. No swords? No problem, I have a sniper and plenty of abilities between my mages and fighters to get around it, not to mention my antilaw cards.

Well a few things to address I suppose.

The law system is okay. I don't think it adds that much more to the game, but each bit is nice I suppose. The thing is, they are very specific. So pay careful attention. If it says you can't use "Fight", then that's all. You can still you your Battle Techs or whatever secondary methods of hitting your character has. The law I found to annoy me was Copycat, since you can't use the same ability the person before you used. If I used "fight", the next character after me can't use it or he gets a card. Took me a minute to pick up on how that one worked. The real thing I don't like so much though is the system. I enjoyed the charging of the original FFT. I had to plan in advance with spells and such. I also liked the classes a bit more, they felt less repetative. I also enjoyed the fact that you bought techniques with JP rather then learning from weapons. I have to many weapons I have to keep in my inventory. What I do like better about FFTA however is that I can now see battles on the map. I can avoid them or fight them. It always felt like when I was trying to get somewhere with FFT that a random battle would pop up. I enjoy the fact that there are more races, I just don't enjoy the lack of diversity among the jobs they can do. Aside from that, I don't have much problem with it, it's minor stuff really. Some things I like more, others I don't.

As for the refilling MP each turn, no your mage cannot just run around using his strongest attacks. The amount you recover each turn is barely enough to let you use Fire, let along Fira.

Hey at least the different races has cool attacks... Not like FFT's ninja being able to throw only?... blech...

And another thing, there are breaks between fights!... THANK GOD!... I hated the fact that in FFT, you can get stuck... That's what happened to me when I had to fight those two assassin bitches in the rooftop (without a GameShark)... I mean for the luv of... Their attacks and speed are so annoying!!!... I practically almost memorized the entire rooftop drama sequence with Rafa for repeating that particular fight over and over and over again...

The JP system is quite nice too... I beat my first fight with Babus (Mewt's right hand dawg) so easy with my Mog Totema...

Oh, and I don't know if there's a two-hand ability; but the Sniper's ability to Doubleshoot can substitute for it I guess...

seba_boi said:

Hey at least the different races has cool attacks... Not like FFT's ninja being able to throw only?... blech...

And another thing, there are breaks between fights!... THANK GOD!... I hated the fact that in FFT, you can get stuck... That's what happened to me when I had to fight those two assassin bitches in the rooftop (without a GameShark)... I mean for the luv of... Their attacks and speed are so annoying!!!... I practically almost memorized the entire rooftop drama sequence with Rafa for repeating that particular fight over and over and over again...

The JP system is quite nice too... I beat my first fight with Babus (Mewt's right hand dawg) so easy with my Mog Totema...

Oh, and I don't know if there's a two-hand ability; but the Sniper's ability to Doubleshoot can substitute for it I guess...

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Ahahah, quite true man. I remember being stuck at the HARDEST stage in FFT - the one where you fight Weigraf in his turned form along with a few Ultima monsters. Sheesh. It was my only saved file and I was damned if I was gonna start over. I didn't even have any ninjas in my squad, just a bunch of scrubs. But through perseverence and alot of luck I ended up getting beating the bastard. It was a HUGE game accomplishment for me.

It's good to see that there are gaps now atleast. And I'm really curious about the judge system as well as checkin out the different races.

BTW, GAMESPOT.COM gave it only an 8.2 rating!? WTF? I was anticipating this game for the longest time. And after I saw that rating I seriously held off from buying it on the 8th. I'm still havin second thoughts.