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Seeing as I had wanted to finish this up for awhile, I finally got off my lazy ass and proceeded to compile and work on the next section of those guys that Everyone loves to hate.
For the moment,
Here is part 1
This is a true story for you newbies in the Neo Geo world who are just getting into the scene, to help protect you from getting ripped off or worse. There have been many flame wars and bitter arguments over what I'm about to discuss, but not too many people know what has gone on to cause them. I will try to explain as best as I can to help clear up the confusion, to hopefully enlighten you so that you might understand. A lot of this was trimmed down due to the massive amount of words that were exchanged in these instances, but besides that, here is the truth...
#1 Neo Alec
I, Gui_Long, starting hanging out at Neo Alec's web site around August of '98 (my dates may be a little fuzzy, so please bear with me). There were a few flame wars, which were a lot of fun. That's where I met my fellow "Devil" LORD SAMHAIN who was trying to sell me Orochi Blood. The flame wars kept escalating, and we eventually got kicked off the boards. Now, I wasn't honestly paying attention to the "General Discussion" section of Alec's site, and had tended to stick to other parts of Alec's Forum. I had hardly noticed this guy claiming to know EVERYTHING about the 16 bit Neo*Geo system in that section. The person was none other than Dion Dakis, running around dubbing himself the ultimate guru of the Neo*Geo world. He was seen lying to people, insulting them, and telling them that all SNK MVS carts produced were also made for AES Home system as well. Like I said before, I hardly noticed him...
#2 Refugees
In December of '98, more and more people were being kicked from Neo Alec's board in his attempt to establish control over everything. One of the older Yahoo Clubs known as 'Southtown Neo*Geo Land' was more than happy to welcome us from Alec's board. Dion and I finally confronted eachother at this point, arguing how the way he talked down to people (which he still does). He sent me a threat by E-Mail, which I laughed off, and with that he left in a huff. Dion then created the club 'Neo*Geo Heaven' in which he told me that "if you're so big & bad you'll be at Shodown 99" (a get together for Neo Fans). I stated that I wasn't trying to be big and bad, I just generally wanted Dion to stop calling people stupid morons so we could all coexist happily.
#3 DolphinLord
Around January 99, consumed with my anger at Dion, I posted a Flame at SNKILLER'S request. The intent was to back him up over his and Dion's argument, in which Dion was trying to prove to everyone that Samurai Shodown V was coming out in six months. Dolphinlord deleted this post, and soon after, he deleted his entire website. SNKILLER came to me, and asked where the post was. So I went back to the board to look, and when I couldn't get in, I thought I was banned. I got mad at Dolphinlord then, because I was under the impression that he had banned me...I didn't realize he had deleted his site. This created a few nasty sparks between us, which lasted for about 7 months. During that time Dolphinlord opened a new club. I found out later that Neo Alec had sent him an email regarding his site, saying that it was very much like his own. Dolphinlord overreacted, and fearing some sort of legal action, chose to delete his site.
#4 SNK Neo*Geo War Room
This Club, which still exists, was opened for those who want to flame and curse out people such as Dion. Billkwando (The Owner of SouthTown Neo*Geo Land) created it to keep the flames I kept posting off of his board. Dion, despite being active in all the other Neo*Geo clubs, never joined that one. I later acquired leadership of this club as founder, and ended up not using it much at all. Elsewhere at the time, Billkwando was kicked from Neo Alec's board for seemingly no reason whatsoever. I later discovered that Alec thought an edited picture of "Hells Chello" was posted on the board, and Alec thought it was Billkwando's doing. Alec said nothing of his reasons, however, and deleted Billkwando from the board. Billkwando became very angry at Alec, contacted all of his friends that posted, and told them to join a club where they would not get deleted for no reason.
The picture "Hells Chello" was an actual picture of Neo Alec that 'Sleep' had edited to look like a Big-headed Devil with a chello. It was intended to prove a stupid point--that Neo Alec looked 'Evil'. As a result, five people were kicked from the board.
#5 Neo*Geo HELL
Soon after all of this, Dion was caught selling converted carts with fake inserts and stickers. I had thought Dion was just an asshole before now, and was surprised to find out he was a lying thief as well. He had advertised that every cart included all the original materials, especially the manual. He was caught selling photocopied inserts for Super Dodgeball, Shock Troopers, and other titles. The items he had called original were nothing more than cheap, fake printouts, definitely not from SNK, which he offered for the "oh so low" price of $900.00 a pop. So Neo*Geo Hell was opened, somewhat because of the desire to establish a place to discuss Neo Gaming, but primarily to inform people about Dion's lies.
#6 The Loser
Dion steps forth once again to prove what scum he is. In a rather stupid move, he claims that Shock Troopers 2 will not be released on home cart. Of course, a short time later, SNK does in fact release the home cart. Faced with this, Dion tries to publically inflate his ego, saying SNK did it to "keep him from having an exclusive home title." Dion had made his own fake Shock Troopers 2 cart, U.S. version (complete with fake U.S. sticker), and tried to pass it off as a "rare" official release that only he had recieved. His trickery was immediately pointed out, so then he tries to save face by hyping his cart sticker, saying he "wanted to compare it to SNK's to see whose was better."
#7 The Thieves strike again.
Dion's poor business practices start to surface. He tries to purchase the entire stock of Metal Slug X carts from SNK USA, so he can make "limited edition cart casings" (meaning the actual plastic PCB casing) that were orange in color. This, of course, would give him the ability to ration them out to whomever he wanted, and charge whatever ass-gouging price he desired, forever claiming they are "rare" titles. When his ploy failed, he threw a fit like a child, and tried to discourage everyone from buying the game, claiming it would not be rare or worth anything. This failed as well, and the game sold in droves in Japan and the U.S., making it a fairly rare title to have due to its scarcity.
#8 Supersellers
Billkwando discovers around this time that Dion had ripped off Shinichirou Mukaigashira, the owner of Supersellers, for about $600.00 worth of Neo carts. In response, Shinichiro-san discouraged everyone from dealing with Dion, outlining what a thief he was. Some of the older guys on the scene might remember this memento I kept that proves Dion's guilt:
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1>LoBO6@prodigy.net As I said before at the TIME it was no more than $170.00.
2>DKD4@aol.com NEVER. From the first day he posted it, it has always been $600+ Like he doesn't talk to me about his prices?
3>Shinichirou Mukaigashira I know a man called Dion Dakis. The software of NeoGeo has been sold to him before. However, since he has doubt which is carrying out the criminal act, he is taking care not to be concerned. (The unjust copy, forgery, etc. of a product package) He has not yet paid the price of the goods purchased from me about 6 months before. (about $600!!) It is very disreputable although his action is seen by news group or mailing list. (There are many grievances in goods transactions) His transactions are not recommended.
Thanks.
Super Sellers Group Owner
Shinichirou Mukaigashira
order.ssg@anet.ne.jp
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This conversation was about a Super Dodgeball cart. Dion had told everyone that he was buddies with Shinichirou-San, constantly trying to pretend they were good friends. With the above evidence, he was caught in another lie, and it was proven again that he was a total thief. Lord SAMHAIN later confirmed this as well.
#9 to be continued...
And finally here is part 2. Remember all this was done originally by Gui_Long so if some things seem out of whack, You can talk to him. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
#9 The Irritating Maze
Dion at this time had made his IM game for AES with which he claimned he had connections with SNK.
He claimed that SNK USA refused to sell his game for him and had even tried to have SNK of Japan to force them to have them sell his game.He originally also tried to make SNK USA to give him an official Certificate saying that this was an Official SNK Product.
In an unprecendented move, Alica Barone(The President of SNK USA's Daughter) came down to Dion's club and stated in front of everyone that SNK had NOT endorsed The IM project and Dion had no such claim to say as much putting Dion in his place.
Dion being the high and mighty Ego he is Banned her from his club for what she did. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
#10 NeoGeoHell Shuts Down
At this point there were really no more discussion about anything there expect Dion's misdealings. As such Yahoo had valid reason to delete the club account seeing as their policy doesn't allow places where you are allowed to freely flame people. Well not to the degree it had gotten as far as Dion was concerned. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
#11 NeoGeo Heaven Payback
Dion's own club had been forced into unlisted mode due to the backlash of flames he recived for having NeoGeoHell shut down. This is turn eventually killed his own club *What few people visited anymore* and thus Dion moves onto greener Neo pastures.
#12 The Lords of SNK
After NeoGeoHell got shut down. Lord Samhain*DSD* created this club to try and bring back the members who were lost when NeoGeoHell got closed down. This club still exists to this day and if a very good information hub on a lot of what Dion & Chris have done to fuck up the scene.
#13 Eternal Flaming NeoGeoHell
This was a new club that appeared but there was no real attendace. This club was deleted not too long after it appeared but,It was reinstated by Yahoo after they had reviewed the content and deemed it could stay.
#14 Adol's Misadventure
Adol*I don't know which of the 2 brothers being referred here seeing as Adol is actually 2 different people*was at one time ripped off by Dion who sent him a Converted Shock Troopers AES cart. When Adol received the game he had checked that back of the insert to find that Dion had written his name on the back of the insert in black permanet marker. In a fit of justfied anger Adol ripped the sticker off the cart and told Dion to set this fake shit correctly.
Upon Adol sending the cart to get his money back, Dion had claimed Adol should pay the $400.00 for the sticker he ruined.*Yes Dion was serious folks* and in the end Adol got some ripoff compensation for about $100.00. I don't remember the full details but you can confer with Adol*whichever one it was* and ask him for a better explantion.
Before sending it back, Adol had scanned the game to show it to people with which the picture resides to this day in the SNK Neo*Geo Warroom Club.
#15 Mike the Dyke
I, Gui_Long, was ripped off by a Mike Zavala. This little cocksucker(Who is believed to be Dion and for good reason!)Sold me a Magical Drop 1 Jamma Board.
He lied to me and said he hadn't received the money I sent. Then when I told him that I checked and found out he had received my money, He stupidly replied that he had received it that day and thus sent me my board. Well all this damn time and I still don't have it. This lyar seriously reminded me of Dion as I spoke to him through constants Email.
He began to even copy my CAPS after awhile and lost my trust 100% when he called me a 'Fool' after I bitched at him for me sending my money and never getting the game.
Of course I was then told was some sort of American humor for 'Friend' and thus listening to my friends I sent him the last of the money owed for the board. That right there was the biggest fucking mistake I ever made.
Of course that was the last time I ever relaxed when trusting anyone that seems a bit funny. So am I paranoid for no reason now? Nope, Just right & robbed.
#16 Dion Admits the Truth...
After finally cornering Dion's ass on MANY occasions about his games being converted shit, Dion finally comes out and saying that they were conversions all along and had the GALL to say that he had admitted this years ago.
#17 DolphinLord's SNK Neo*Geo Domain
This was a club opened about the same time as the SNK Neo*Geo Warroom club in the style and sense that it was free of censorship and Dion getting away with peddeling his bullshit. Neo*Geo Heaven & NeoAlec's were at the time the 2 main ones followed by Southtown Neo*Geo Club much later.
It should be stated that NeoAlec's and Neo*Geo Heaven were under heavy censorship and thus if you were fucked by Dion you couldn't yell to him about it on his own club for fear of getting banned.
Out of all the Yahoo Clubs, DolphinLord's survived, propsered and is currently unlisted due to the amount of Spam that had ridden back & forth from there and other clubs. The Club is still there and has quite a few people visiting from time to time.
I'll try to finish up part 3 by the end of this week. Stayed tuned. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
BonusKun
Edit: Forgot to add part #9. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
[ January 08, 2002: Message edited by: BonusKun ]
For the moment,
Here is part 1
This is a true story for you newbies in the Neo Geo world who are just getting into the scene, to help protect you from getting ripped off or worse. There have been many flame wars and bitter arguments over what I'm about to discuss, but not too many people know what has gone on to cause them. I will try to explain as best as I can to help clear up the confusion, to hopefully enlighten you so that you might understand. A lot of this was trimmed down due to the massive amount of words that were exchanged in these instances, but besides that, here is the truth...
#1 Neo Alec
I, Gui_Long, starting hanging out at Neo Alec's web site around August of '98 (my dates may be a little fuzzy, so please bear with me). There were a few flame wars, which were a lot of fun. That's where I met my fellow "Devil" LORD SAMHAIN who was trying to sell me Orochi Blood. The flame wars kept escalating, and we eventually got kicked off the boards. Now, I wasn't honestly paying attention to the "General Discussion" section of Alec's site, and had tended to stick to other parts of Alec's Forum. I had hardly noticed this guy claiming to know EVERYTHING about the 16 bit Neo*Geo system in that section. The person was none other than Dion Dakis, running around dubbing himself the ultimate guru of the Neo*Geo world. He was seen lying to people, insulting them, and telling them that all SNK MVS carts produced were also made for AES Home system as well. Like I said before, I hardly noticed him...
#2 Refugees
In December of '98, more and more people were being kicked from Neo Alec's board in his attempt to establish control over everything. One of the older Yahoo Clubs known as 'Southtown Neo*Geo Land' was more than happy to welcome us from Alec's board. Dion and I finally confronted eachother at this point, arguing how the way he talked down to people (which he still does). He sent me a threat by E-Mail, which I laughed off, and with that he left in a huff. Dion then created the club 'Neo*Geo Heaven' in which he told me that "if you're so big & bad you'll be at Shodown 99" (a get together for Neo Fans). I stated that I wasn't trying to be big and bad, I just generally wanted Dion to stop calling people stupid morons so we could all coexist happily.
#3 DolphinLord
Around January 99, consumed with my anger at Dion, I posted a Flame at SNKILLER'S request. The intent was to back him up over his and Dion's argument, in which Dion was trying to prove to everyone that Samurai Shodown V was coming out in six months. Dolphinlord deleted this post, and soon after, he deleted his entire website. SNKILLER came to me, and asked where the post was. So I went back to the board to look, and when I couldn't get in, I thought I was banned. I got mad at Dolphinlord then, because I was under the impression that he had banned me...I didn't realize he had deleted his site. This created a few nasty sparks between us, which lasted for about 7 months. During that time Dolphinlord opened a new club. I found out later that Neo Alec had sent him an email regarding his site, saying that it was very much like his own. Dolphinlord overreacted, and fearing some sort of legal action, chose to delete his site.
#4 SNK Neo*Geo War Room
This Club, which still exists, was opened for those who want to flame and curse out people such as Dion. Billkwando (The Owner of SouthTown Neo*Geo Land) created it to keep the flames I kept posting off of his board. Dion, despite being active in all the other Neo*Geo clubs, never joined that one. I later acquired leadership of this club as founder, and ended up not using it much at all. Elsewhere at the time, Billkwando was kicked from Neo Alec's board for seemingly no reason whatsoever. I later discovered that Alec thought an edited picture of "Hells Chello" was posted on the board, and Alec thought it was Billkwando's doing. Alec said nothing of his reasons, however, and deleted Billkwando from the board. Billkwando became very angry at Alec, contacted all of his friends that posted, and told them to join a club where they would not get deleted for no reason.
The picture "Hells Chello" was an actual picture of Neo Alec that 'Sleep' had edited to look like a Big-headed Devil with a chello. It was intended to prove a stupid point--that Neo Alec looked 'Evil'. As a result, five people were kicked from the board.
#5 Neo*Geo HELL
Soon after all of this, Dion was caught selling converted carts with fake inserts and stickers. I had thought Dion was just an asshole before now, and was surprised to find out he was a lying thief as well. He had advertised that every cart included all the original materials, especially the manual. He was caught selling photocopied inserts for Super Dodgeball, Shock Troopers, and other titles. The items he had called original were nothing more than cheap, fake printouts, definitely not from SNK, which he offered for the "oh so low" price of $900.00 a pop. So Neo*Geo Hell was opened, somewhat because of the desire to establish a place to discuss Neo Gaming, but primarily to inform people about Dion's lies.
#6 The Loser
Dion steps forth once again to prove what scum he is. In a rather stupid move, he claims that Shock Troopers 2 will not be released on home cart. Of course, a short time later, SNK does in fact release the home cart. Faced with this, Dion tries to publically inflate his ego, saying SNK did it to "keep him from having an exclusive home title." Dion had made his own fake Shock Troopers 2 cart, U.S. version (complete with fake U.S. sticker), and tried to pass it off as a "rare" official release that only he had recieved. His trickery was immediately pointed out, so then he tries to save face by hyping his cart sticker, saying he "wanted to compare it to SNK's to see whose was better."
#7 The Thieves strike again.
Dion's poor business practices start to surface. He tries to purchase the entire stock of Metal Slug X carts from SNK USA, so he can make "limited edition cart casings" (meaning the actual plastic PCB casing) that were orange in color. This, of course, would give him the ability to ration them out to whomever he wanted, and charge whatever ass-gouging price he desired, forever claiming they are "rare" titles. When his ploy failed, he threw a fit like a child, and tried to discourage everyone from buying the game, claiming it would not be rare or worth anything. This failed as well, and the game sold in droves in Japan and the U.S., making it a fairly rare title to have due to its scarcity.
#8 Supersellers
Billkwando discovers around this time that Dion had ripped off Shinichirou Mukaigashira, the owner of Supersellers, for about $600.00 worth of Neo carts. In response, Shinichiro-san discouraged everyone from dealing with Dion, outlining what a thief he was. Some of the older guys on the scene might remember this memento I kept that proves Dion's guilt:
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1>LoBO6@prodigy.net As I said before at the TIME it was no more than $170.00.
2>DKD4@aol.com NEVER. From the first day he posted it, it has always been $600+ Like he doesn't talk to me about his prices?
3>Shinichirou Mukaigashira I know a man called Dion Dakis. The software of NeoGeo has been sold to him before. However, since he has doubt which is carrying out the criminal act, he is taking care not to be concerned. (The unjust copy, forgery, etc. of a product package) He has not yet paid the price of the goods purchased from me about 6 months before. (about $600!!) It is very disreputable although his action is seen by news group or mailing list. (There are many grievances in goods transactions) His transactions are not recommended.
Thanks.
Super Sellers Group Owner
Shinichirou Mukaigashira
order.ssg@anet.ne.jp
----------
This conversation was about a Super Dodgeball cart. Dion had told everyone that he was buddies with Shinichirou-San, constantly trying to pretend they were good friends. With the above evidence, he was caught in another lie, and it was proven again that he was a total thief. Lord SAMHAIN later confirmed this as well.
#9 to be continued...
And finally here is part 2. Remember all this was done originally by Gui_Long so if some things seem out of whack, You can talk to him. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
#9 The Irritating Maze
Dion at this time had made his IM game for AES with which he claimned he had connections with SNK.
He claimed that SNK USA refused to sell his game for him and had even tried to have SNK of Japan to force them to have them sell his game.He originally also tried to make SNK USA to give him an official Certificate saying that this was an Official SNK Product.
In an unprecendented move, Alica Barone(The President of SNK USA's Daughter) came down to Dion's club and stated in front of everyone that SNK had NOT endorsed The IM project and Dion had no such claim to say as much putting Dion in his place.
Dion being the high and mighty Ego he is Banned her from his club for what she did. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
#10 NeoGeoHell Shuts Down
At this point there were really no more discussion about anything there expect Dion's misdealings. As such Yahoo had valid reason to delete the club account seeing as their policy doesn't allow places where you are allowed to freely flame people. Well not to the degree it had gotten as far as Dion was concerned. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
#11 NeoGeo Heaven Payback
Dion's own club had been forced into unlisted mode due to the backlash of flames he recived for having NeoGeoHell shut down. This is turn eventually killed his own club *What few people visited anymore* and thus Dion moves onto greener Neo pastures.
#12 The Lords of SNK
After NeoGeoHell got shut down. Lord Samhain*DSD* created this club to try and bring back the members who were lost when NeoGeoHell got closed down. This club still exists to this day and if a very good information hub on a lot of what Dion & Chris have done to fuck up the scene.
#13 Eternal Flaming NeoGeoHell
This was a new club that appeared but there was no real attendace. This club was deleted not too long after it appeared but,It was reinstated by Yahoo after they had reviewed the content and deemed it could stay.
#14 Adol's Misadventure
Adol*I don't know which of the 2 brothers being referred here seeing as Adol is actually 2 different people*was at one time ripped off by Dion who sent him a Converted Shock Troopers AES cart. When Adol received the game he had checked that back of the insert to find that Dion had written his name on the back of the insert in black permanet marker. In a fit of justfied anger Adol ripped the sticker off the cart and told Dion to set this fake shit correctly.
Upon Adol sending the cart to get his money back, Dion had claimed Adol should pay the $400.00 for the sticker he ruined.*Yes Dion was serious folks* and in the end Adol got some ripoff compensation for about $100.00. I don't remember the full details but you can confer with Adol*whichever one it was* and ask him for a better explantion.
Before sending it back, Adol had scanned the game to show it to people with which the picture resides to this day in the SNK Neo*Geo Warroom Club.
#15 Mike the Dyke
I, Gui_Long, was ripped off by a Mike Zavala. This little cocksucker(Who is believed to be Dion and for good reason!)Sold me a Magical Drop 1 Jamma Board.
He lied to me and said he hadn't received the money I sent. Then when I told him that I checked and found out he had received my money, He stupidly replied that he had received it that day and thus sent me my board. Well all this damn time and I still don't have it. This lyar seriously reminded me of Dion as I spoke to him through constants Email.
He began to even copy my CAPS after awhile and lost my trust 100% when he called me a 'Fool' after I bitched at him for me sending my money and never getting the game.
Of course I was then told was some sort of American humor for 'Friend' and thus listening to my friends I sent him the last of the money owed for the board. That right there was the biggest fucking mistake I ever made.
Of course that was the last time I ever relaxed when trusting anyone that seems a bit funny. So am I paranoid for no reason now? Nope, Just right & robbed.
#16 Dion Admits the Truth...
After finally cornering Dion's ass on MANY occasions about his games being converted shit, Dion finally comes out and saying that they were conversions all along and had the GALL to say that he had admitted this years ago.
#17 DolphinLord's SNK Neo*Geo Domain
This was a club opened about the same time as the SNK Neo*Geo Warroom club in the style and sense that it was free of censorship and Dion getting away with peddeling his bullshit. Neo*Geo Heaven & NeoAlec's were at the time the 2 main ones followed by Southtown Neo*Geo Club much later.
It should be stated that NeoAlec's and Neo*Geo Heaven were under heavy censorship and thus if you were fucked by Dion you couldn't yell to him about it on his own club for fear of getting banned.
Out of all the Yahoo Clubs, DolphinLord's survived, propsered and is currently unlisted due to the amount of Spam that had ridden back & forth from there and other clubs. The Club is still there and has quite a few people visiting from time to time.
I'll try to finish up part 3 by the end of this week. Stayed tuned. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
BonusKun
Edit: Forgot to add part #9. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
[ January 08, 2002: Message edited by: BonusKun ]
