Your conclusion is Wrong ruffian

Hey Ruffian, if you were playing games for over 20 years, I'm surprised that you didn't know neo geo games used to cost 200+ plus when they came out!!!! I remember going to software etc and just staring at the majician lord cart when I was only 15 years old. It had a 199.99 price tag that I will never forget. Now you can pick up Magician Lord MVS for alot cheaper. IF you don't like the AES prices. Yes THEY ARE EXPENSIVE. then get an MVS motherboard and supergun. Solution is simple. You can get awesome games like pulstar for 35 dollars on ebay! How can you complain about this price? Yes AES prices have shot up, thats how it goes for RARE items.You can't compare comic books to games, because the ratio in which they were produced are not the same. There are alot of crap comics out there, but how many Metal Slug AES carts are out there???? Point being, if you don't like the prices of AES get MVS CARTS!!! You can metal slug 1 for 50 dollars on ebay. Whats your problem Ruffian?? I can't understand why you are complaining about prices when you can get the MVS carts for so much cheaper. One motheboard single slot, 60 bucks, a supergun to play it on your tv, 300 bucks. A total of 360 dollars, is not ridiculous!

A total of 360 dollars, is not ridiculous!

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Are you serious? For any ordinary joe that price is ridiculos. An ordinary gamer should denfinitly just stick with mame. So far my collection of six games and an mvs board and jamma cab has cost me ~1000$. For me that is ok, to my friends im an idiot paying for somethin i cold get anyway for free. The company is dead (period) and do notsuffer from this.
So why do i buy the carts? Because ilike to collectthem and play them at my leisure for nostalgic reasons.

Originally posted by neogeoholic:
<STRONG>Hey Ruffian, if you were playing games for over 20 years, I'm surprised that you didn't know neo geo games used to cost 200+ plus when they came out!!!! I remember going to software etc and just staring at the majician lord cart when I was only 15 years old. It had a 199.99 price tag that I will never forget. Now you can pick up Magician Lord MVS for alot cheaper. IF you don't like the AES prices. Yes THEY ARE EXPENSIVE. then get an MVS motherboard and supergun. Solution is simple. You can get awesome games like pulstar for 35 dollars on ebay! How can you complain about this price? Yes AES prices have shot up, thats how it goes for RARE items.You can't compare comic books to games, because the ratio in which they were produced are not the same. There are alot of crap comics out there, but how many Metal Slug AES carts are out there???? Point being, if you don't like the prices of AES get MVS CARTS!!! You can metal slug 1 for 50 dollars on ebay. Whats your problem Ruffian?? I can't understand why you are complaining about prices when you can get the MVS carts for so much cheaper. One motheboard single slot, 60 bucks, a supergun to play it on your tv, 300 bucks. A total of 360 dollars, is not ridiculous!</STRONG>

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First of all release prices are meaningless.. haven't you heard of depreciation? Video games should depreciate at a reasonable rate considering the games can be easily ported these days. Whatever..I don't need justifications to spend $200 per cart because I won't. I don't collect games I play them.

Also, there are a lot of crap vid games out there too so the comic book analogy does fit. Twinkle star sprites anyone?

[ January 07, 2002: Message edited by: Ruffian ]

An ordinary thief should stick with mame.

$360 isn't unreasonable. For the ordinary Joe? How many "ordinary Joes" went out and bought the PS2 for $300? Or the Xbox? There are plenty of people out there with that kind of money.

Ruffian - You need to come to a better conclusion: Neo Geo is an expensive gaming hobby. It's not just for collectors, or the majority of collectors. The majority of us play the games. So don't brand anybody.

Twinkle Star Sprites is a great game.

and collectibles don't depreciate as a rule.

Using that comic book analogy all those Golden Age comics should be worth nothing since a) they are old and b) they can be reprinted.

They are portable and can depreciate after all.

SonGohan, the neo is ancient. It has superb games with great gameplay, but most of my friends have never heard of it or doesn´t remember it from the arcades.

The price of the Ps2 is still far to high for most people i know who are still waiting for it to come down. The big difference is that the Ps2 is still massproduced and will probably be so for years to come. It is still available.

I collect my cart to PLAY them. Simple as that. Most people here would laugh at my collection. (...for the time being...)

Why should i care if others steal, yes steal games that are no longer produced for the market? Ive paid for my games.

I have noticed that "the stupidass" has started a misleading trend that labels all gamers who can afford large collection as a "collector." IMO, who cares. I buy what I want and it is my business (not the "stupidass." If you perfer a MVS, AES, or emulation, then you should be proud to be a Neo Geo fan, and not be a whining stupidass. <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

I have noticed that "the stupidass" has started a misleading trend that labels all gamers who can afford large collection as a "collector." IMO, who cares. I buy what I want and it is my business (not the "stupidass." If you perfer a MVS, AES, or emulation, then you should be proud to be a Neo Geo fan, and not be a whining stupidass.

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Am i the stupidass or Ruffian? Can i just ask "what the fuck is wrong with being a collector"?

Collector = buying the games, playing them and keeping them.

I collect mvs carts. In my opinion a bit expensive, (don´t get me started on the aes) B but i buy them anyway. There is a special pleasure in owning the real thing.

I don´t care how other people get their fix, why should i?

Originally posted by Gorka:
<STRONG>Am i the stupidass or Ruffian? Can i just ask "what the fuck is wrong with being a collector"?

Collector = buying the games, playing them and keeping them.

I collect mvs carts. In my opinion a bit expensive, (don´t get me started on the aes) B but i buy them anyway. There is a special pleasure in owning the real thing.

I don´t care how other people get their fix, why should i?</STRONG>

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Did not mean you or the other guys, but he will post soon. Watch for a big whine. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

But what is wrong about collecting, NSX-T?

AES games are expensive. The Neo overall isn't a cheap console in terms of prices.

Most of us know. Some don't.

So, once again, if the games are too expensive for ya, F O R G E T T H E M or fucking buy some of the new crap, PS2, Xbox, whatever, for Christ's sake!

I don't have much money to spend, it usually takes me MONTHS before I'm able to buy a newer AES game - so what?! I'm really sick of all that whining about prices.

I am not a collector, but I can appreciate the value of a good Neo game, just because most of them are no blunt mass product but brilliant pieces of software burnt onto a cartridge, made by freaky ppl for a freaky arcade market, unlike most over-produced, hyped-to-death "next-gen" games for the casual couch potatoe who plays for five mins. and then rushes to cheatcc.com because he's not even able to complete 10% of da fukn game!

Nobody is forced to buy/enjoy Neo games. There are plenty of alternatives, so...

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Originally posted by SonGohan:
<STRONG>An ordinary thief should stick with mame.

$360 isn't unreasonable. For the ordinary Joe? How many "ordinary Joes" went out and bought the PS2 for $300? Or the Xbox? There are plenty of people out there with that kind of money.</STRONG>

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Right.

Hey Gorka, 360 is not that insane of a price to be able to play ANY jamma based game. This amounts to being able to play hundreds of games via the supergun. Although we are talking about neo geo games here, it is nice to have the option to stick jamma games into the super gun and play them too. Ruffian complained about AES. I'm just saying he should have focused his complaint on mvs, since he is talking about "gaming" and not collecting. Sure you can collect mvs too, which is even tougher since it's hard to find complete mvs kits, but I'm just saying that if you just want to play the games, you might as well go for the mvs games since they aremuch cheaper. In comparison to a ps2 which costs 300, throwing in an extra 60 bucks is not ridiculous. Yes this system is old, and these games are old. But like every other neo fanatic out there, we love the games!! I have a ps2 and bought devil may cry.. awesome awesome game. but after I beat it has been collecting dust, yet I can play neo games over and over. to conclude, everyone has their own preferences. Everybody has different amounts of cash. I personally think it would be ridiculous to buy a 1200 dollar mint aes metal slug when I can get the mvs for 50 bucks. But that is just my opinion. I respect all gamers collectors whoever. If Ruffian doesn't want to pay even MVS prices, then he obviously doesn't love neo geo like we do. I can understand it, if he was 15 years old and had to ask his mommy for allowance money. then of course neo is not fo rhim. but if he has been playing for over 20 years, I can't understand why he is whining about having to shell out 50 dollars for games like metal slug 1. o

Neogeoholic, to someone who doesn´t truly love 2-d gaming like we do that price IS ridicilous. We -the true fans will still love and support our console, but why should we care about how Ruffian gets his fix?

Do you really want more competition on those carts? <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

Originally posted by Gorka:
<STRONG>But what is wrong about collecting, NSX-T?</STRONG>

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Nothing wrong with it. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

Originally posted by NSX-T:
<STRONG>Did not mean you or the other guys, but he will post soon. Watch for a big whine. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

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That's what I don't get, why do people like him come to Neo-geo.com to WHINE, why does he not go to MameB'ATCHES.COM and show off to everyone there his collection of pirated CDR'S, show everyone what a big man he is because he does not pay insane prices for "ancient" technology but instead steals it.

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Gorka, good point!

its nice to get into the hobby, but if you're like me and have noticed that even crap jamma boards have been shooting up in price lately the market would get ugly if everyone who enjoys old arcade games went out and bought the real thing.

I'm not sure about you guys, but I enjoy my neo alot. I also want to get some more late eighties-late nineties games.

The less I pay for it all, the better!

Originally posted by neogeoholic:
<STRONG>Hey Ruffian, if you were playing games for over 20 years, I'm surprised that you didn't know neo geo games used to cost 200+ plus when they came out!!!! I remember going to software etc and just staring at the majician lord cart when I was only 15 years old. It had a 199.99 price tag that I will never forget. Now you can pick up Magician Lord MVS for alot cheaper. IF you don't like the AES prices. Yes THEY ARE EXPENSIVE. then get an MVS motherboard and supergun. Solution is simple. You can get awesome games like pulstar for 35 dollars on ebay! How can you complain about this price? Yes AES prices have shot up, thats how it goes for RARE items.You can't compare comic books to games, because the ratio in which they were produced are not the same. There are alot of crap comics out there, but how many Metal Slug AES carts are out there???? Point being, if you don't like the prices of AES get MVS CARTS!!! You can metal slug 1 for 50 dollars on ebay. Whats your problem Ruffian?? I can't understand why you are complaining about prices when you can get the MVS carts for so much cheaper. One motheboard single slot, 60 bucks, a supergun to play it on your tv, 300 bucks. A total of 360 dollars, is not ridiculous!</STRONG>

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Dude, are you nuts?

MVS 1 slot - $60
SuperGun - $70 (about what mine cost to build)
Shock Cases - $6 per Case

Not much to get into. My most expensive cart I think was MS3. Don't wanna go into how much I paid, but you don't have to spend lots of dough to be in the MVS market.


Peace

JHendrix

The less I pay for it all, the better!

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Amen to that my brother! A cab is the only way to truly fly!

Originally posted by Ruffian:
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First of all release prices are meaningless.. haven't you heard of depreciation? Video games should depreciate at a reasonable rate considering the games can be easily ported these days.
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ABSOLUTE BOLLOCKS

What about a tabletop version of Pac-man or Space Invaders????

Originally posted by buster_reppu-ken:
<STRONG>ABSOLUTE BOLLOCKS

What about a tabletop version of Pac-man or Space Invaders????</STRONG>

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Nice point my friend. Although I'd rather buy the PCB cheap and then just build the table top version, opposed to shelling out all tha cash.

What you people have to realize is that if you're willing to grease your elbows up you don't have to spend lots of cash to get into the Neo...

Peace

JHendrix

What about a tabletop version of Pac-man or Space Invaders????

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<IMG SRC="smilies/drool.gif" border="0"> Yes, please!

That would truly be ownig a part of history. Alas, i would settle for a puckman board.

Originally posted by JHendrix:

What you people have to realize is that if you're willing to grease your elbows up you don't have to spend lots of cash to get into the Neo...

Peace

JHendrix[/QB]

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I wish i was you personally i down know my arse from my elbow (you sit on your elbows??? - right)

hehe, I'm fairly new to these message boards, but I have seen sooooo many posts regarding mvs vs aes. hey j hendrix, you are right and helping to prove my point even further, you can get a supergun for even cheaper. I just wanted to state the price from mas systems. but yeah, neo geo gaming doens't really cost a fortune like some think. When we are talking about neo, we are basically talking about bringing arcade gaming to the home. long live neo geo!!