Snk Vs. Capcom X-box live petition

Chris C.

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<a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/snkvscap/petition.html" target="_blank">http://www.petitiononline.com/snkvscap/petition.html</a>

This might have been posted before, I don't know, but incase some people haven't seen it, please let Playmore know that you want X-box live support.
 

Nomax

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I fuck X-box and I deep fuck Microsoft! They don't love games they just want money! Where were you when Sega was struggling with their Dreamcast on-line stuff. That's a company who loves games like Playmore. MS is shit! Microsoft & Sony fucked the whole gaming world! And you support this? I would be ashamed if I were you! shame Support people that love the same thing as you and not the guys that just want your money! blow_top
 

SonGohan

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Nomax:
I fuck X-box and I deep fuck Microsoft! They don't love games they just want money!
Wow, who let you out of your cage? BTW, all companies want your money, regardless. If they didn't, they'd sell everything at cost.
 

Yodd

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Nomax:
I fuck X-box and I deep fuck Microsoft! They don't love games they just want money! Where were you when Sega was struggling with their Dreamcast on-line stuff. That's a company who loves games like Playmore. MS is shit! Microsoft & Sony fucked the whole gaming world! And you support this? I would be ashamed if I were you! shame Support people that love the same thing as you and not the guys that just want your money! blow_top
And Sega doesn't want our money? Hmmmm...perhaps thats why they dropped out of the hardware biz...
 

Chicago Cheeseburgler Crew

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Nomax:
I fuck X-box and I deep fuck Microsoft! They don't love games they just want money! Where were you when Sega was struggling with their Dreamcast on-line stuff. That's a company who loves games like Playmore. MS is shit! Microsoft & Sony fucked the whole gaming world! And you support this? I would be ashamed if I were you! shame Support people that love the same thing as you and not the guys that just want your money! blow_top
Please shut the fuck up.

I woulda supported DC online if they had something worth playing.

Hell yea I support SvC Chaos on Xbox live. Doesn't mean I won't be buying the MVS or homecart.

And buying an xbox port of the game not only supports Microsoft, it also supports Playmore.
 

Nomax

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Wow, who let you out of your cage? BTW, all companies want your money, regardless. If they didn't, they'd sell everything at cost.
And Sega doesn't want our money? Hmmmm...perhaps thats why they dropped out of the hardware biz...
I don't deny that, of course all companies want your money (well, I would say need your money). BUT Microsoft didn't started as a gaming company, they made a gaming system just to make extra money. They were a software company, created to make software, OS & utilities. Playmore & Sega are game creators from the beginning, these companies were created by game lovers unlike MS. That's what I mean!
 

evil wasabi

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nintendo used to make fucking handafundaodfnienasein cards, so i guess they just want our money too, no?

if sega didnt keep screwing up the fucking sega.net games to have no BBA support, i would have played the shit out of them, but i had no 56k, and when i did get at&t and then sega.net 56k service i could rarely use it, since i didnt have a dedicated phone line.

and, btw, people (including myself) racked up MAD hours on PSO so dont tell me people werent playing.

maybe if capcom didnt suck so much ass either, i would have played ALL their games online aswell.
 

SeVeNMerc

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I don't deny that, of course all companies want your money (well, I would say need your money). BUT Microsoft didn't started as a gaming company, they made a gaming system just to make extra money
LOL too bad they lose money of every system sold, and will probably will until the xbox 2 comes out.

MS IMO sure mayeb are in it for the money but they are doing alot for gaming IMO.

LETS see
Making online consoles and game standard, DC started it but MS gona make it stay.
Add a hardrive, no more memorey cards also allowing the devlopers to do new thing with the hardrive. Take BLINX for examples the game records everythign your doing in a lvl and you can pause the game, and RECord moves, Fast foward, rewind the game and you use this skill to advance in the game. Example if your runnign acroos a bridge and collapses on you. you pause hit rewind. Your character stands still and the bridge gets rebuilt do you can cross it.

Also Companies like Nintendo started out as a card making comapny, then they made game to make money.

Sega also started out as a american comapny would made and shipped pinball machines, then they got bougth by a JAPAN comapny and started making new kinds of video games for money.

So I could care less where MS came from as long as the give me a good system with great games, specially online.

<small>[ June 25, 2003, 12:36 AM: Message edited by: SeVeNMerc ]</small>
 

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Nomax:
I fuck X-box and I deep fuck Microsoft! They don't love games they just want money! Where were you when Sega was struggling with their Dreamcast on-line stuff. That's a company who loves games like Playmore. MS is shit! Microsoft & Sony fucked the whole gaming world! And you support this? I would be ashamed if I were you! shame Support people that love the same thing as you and not the guys that just want your money! blow_top
First of all, this kind of post belongs in the war room. Second, this is extremely hypocritical. Here you are judging what people should be playing based on the follies of MS instead of looking at the quality of the games. Didn't you just bash MS for not caring about the games? But, if SNK vs Capcom was made for the Xbox, wouldn't that be a good game? I don't get it! You make no sense. And for your information, Sega makes Xbox games. The Xbox is also the console with the best online plan. I didn't like MS getting into this, but they HAVE SOMETHING TO OFFER THE GAMING WORLD... Live is an amazing service.
 

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Chris C.:
<a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/snkvscap/petition.html" target="_blank">http://www.petitiononline.com/snkvscap/petition.html</a>

This might have been posted before, I don't know, but incase some people haven't seen it, please let Playmore know that you want X-box live support.
And where can I sign up to say I don't want to see SvC on X-Box? mr_t
I don't like this home console angry
 

TheBigBB

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You guys don't want to play this game online or what? I hope you MS bashers are using Macs or Linux...
 

AE86

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LOL too bad they lose money of every system sold, and will probably will until the xbox 2 comes out.
Uh..Every company that makes hardware loses money on the systems they make, and I assure you M$ will lose money on the X-Box 2 (or Next-Box, whatever they are calling it). Its the razor and the blades thoery, sell a system and take a hit then make profits on the software rights.

Add a hardrive, no more memorey cards also allowing the devlopers to do new thing with the hardrive. Take BLINX for examples the game records everythign your doing in a lvl and you can pause the game, and RECord moves, Fast foward, rewind the game and you use this skill to advance in the game. Example if your runnign acroos a bridge and collapses on you. you pause hit rewind. Your character stands still and the bridge gets rebuilt do you can cross it.
Thats not an example of the HD at work at all!(I also question if you have played Blinx because thats a rather erronius description of the play mechanics). The only game to date to acctually take full advantge of the HD in the X-Box is Halo and all it uses it for is constant data spooling.

Sega also started out as a american comapny would made and shipped pinball machines, then they got bougth by a JAPAN comapny and started making new kinds of video games for money.
Close, David Rosen (the founder of Sega) lived in Japan and exported Juke Boxes and Pachinko machines from Japan and put them on Military bases. He would stamp all his machines with the appreviation for his comapany (SErvice GAmes) then the company Gulf & Western (an amreican company)bought him out and he started Chuck E. Cheese's

So I could care less where MS came from as long as the give me a good system with great games, specially online. [/QB]
I think the flaw intrinsic with M$ is they produce so many games of questionable quality, or games that are just plain crap. I have 4 games for my X-Box, I look at it now and there is a healthy layer of dust on it as well. In the next 6 months I can't name 1 x-box game I am remotly excited about.

M$ is the 20th century Fox of the gaming industry, they produce alot of games that are bright and colorful with alot of explosions to draw in the general public. Gameplay and innovation are made victims, control and replay-ability are sacrificed, but fret not! That movie license for the movie with shiny thing and explosions was secured. And in 6 hours its over and you are waiting for the next big thing with brighter explosions and a bigger death toll to keep you satiated. Many have called it "Making the gaming scene more accesible" I call it the rape of a sub-culture.


That was remarably liberating...
 

TheBigBB

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I love the arguments where someone tries to say that a given system has no good games. Okay, so there are shit games on the Xbox. Have you played them all, though? What about Panzer Dragoon Orta? What about Wolfenstein? What about Moto GP 2? These games are really good. What about Steel Battalion? Capcom vs SNK 2 online? That's the first time a 2D fighter was online like that. If SNK vs Capcom came to the Xbox, would it be a shit game? Well, I don't think so. Do you want to go online on a fighting game on the PS2 or GC? But, the Xbox requires broadband; that's what stops the lag from ruining the experience.

Since the beginning of gaming there were shit games made solely for wide appeal and to make profit. Every system has loads of crap games of that sort. You always need to wade through crap to find the gems. There's nothing inherently wrong with the Xbox, I'm sorry. If you don't like it, that's nothing more than your opinion. If you don't like it because you have a grudge against Microsoft, then you're being an ass by judging the quality of games on the company who made the console.
 

Ilovejapangirls

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Hawkmoon you're right...i have an xbox too..

but i must say that Dreamcast had the online 4 years ago...

i played lot s of games on it too...and with no lag,cause of the optimization of the games...

sad thing is that many didn't know they could play C V S online at the time,so C V S 2 online fo xbox is a "new" thing...no it's not.
 

GENOCIDE CUTTER '94

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Wow, this discussion has gotten pretty deep & meaningful. Unfortunately I don't have anything remotely intelligent or thought provoking to add to it except the following...
I don't like Microsoft or Bill Gates & I never will! But, I will get an Xbox 'cos it's the best thing out there (in my opinion at least).

the end.
 

AE86

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DMHawkmoon: Save Steel Batalion you have named every game I own. And if they do SNK vs Capcom right it will be good, it will pobably be the next game I buy for the X-Box.

I am gonna drop this though, I have no intention of making it a flame war.
 

Nomax

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Microsoft & Sony, large companies with "We want to be everywhere!" as motto. I'm afraid for the next-gen gaming world. They spend lots of money to get exclusivity on this or that game, Microsft acquires small gaming crew, ... They screw up the whole thing! I'm nostalgic of the Nintendo vs Sega war. They had each a different range of games, different souls, different point of view. Each with their own carefully chosen licensed developpers and as gamers, we had the choice. Now X-box & PS2 are the same to me, a certain game will go to the company that will put the biggest amount of money on the table. That's sad. crying
Of course, X-live may sounds great but that will end up screwed like the rest. And this stuff makes me think of a PC thing (battle.net anyone?). Microsoft has lots of financial ressources. They supported Windows thanks to the money they earned from DOS, then they stopped DOS support once Windows 95 was out, worse they made everything to make it sink. Nowadays, they're supporting X-Box with the money they made from Windows and like all their products, they'll drop it once they'll find something else.
Most of PS2 bought this system 'cause they saw the ads, most of them didn't even knew about the Dreamcast. A friend told me, I bought a PS2 at the time it was first released, I had to wait 6 months to get a good game, I was still playing on my DC instead.
Now people buy gaming systems because they see the ads, because "it's good to have one". Real gamers like us (you and me, the Neo-Geo community), we can say why we buy a system or another (I bought a DC because of House of the Dead 2 and a Neo because of Puzzle Bobble, Blue's Journey and amazing fighting games). And if you buy a X-Box to play SvC online, that's up to you and I respect your choice. But remember, be true to yourself! I just don't like X-box and MS, I don't like what they are so I won't buy this system. I'll bought the DC version of SvC for sure and maybe the MVS version as well if I got enough money (which I seriously doubt) but I'll be twice happy; happy because I got a amazing game and happy because feeling of having done something right for the companies I love.
I can't stand MS. If you can, it's up to you and I respect your choice, but respect mine, I just wanna say this, thanx.
:)
 

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Nomax:
Microsoft & Sony, large companies with "We want to be everywhere!" as motto. I'm afraid for the next-gen gaming world. They spend lots of money to get exclusivity on this or that game, Microsft acquires small gaming crew, ... They screw up the whole thing! I'm nostalgic of the Nintendo vs Sega war. They had each a different range of games, different souls, different point of view. Each with their own carefully chosen licensed developpers and as gamers, we had the choice. Now X-box & PS2 are the same to me, a certain game will go to the company that will put the biggest amount of money on the table. That's sad. crying [...]
I hear ya man, but let me tell you that Playmore, Capcom, Sega, Nintendo, Microsoft or Sony are in it for the money. For OUR money. They don't release a good game to satisfy us gamers but to maximize their profit. The fact that certain games/companies created a cult following doesn't mean shit to anyone in the gaming biz management as long as it doesn't pay. Ppl responsible for sales, marketing or controlling in such companies couldn't care less if their games are considered crap among hardcore gamers (Pokemon comes to mind) as long as these games sell well. They'd sell poo in a carton box if ppl would buy it.

Now, there's the developer side. Back in the early 80s, there were a lot of one-man companies, guys that developed games for various 8-bit hardware and did all the work by themselves, graphics, sound, code, playtesting, etc. Over the years, these one-man shows disappeared in favour of small dev teams of two to five ppl. Most of these developers worked in 'normal' IT jobs before, mainframe programming, operating, all that stuff. None, or almost none of them started their careers as game coders.

Nowadays, we have huge dev teams, sometimes with more than 50 ppl, and game designer has become a regular job, but the coders of today wouldn't move a finger for the weekly salary of a game developer of yesterday; another reason why it's difficult to develop a game with a reasonable budget now. For ex. in 1982, developement cost of a typical arcade game ranged between $10,000 and $25,000 (not counting custom arcade hardware projects), but now you couldn't even create a game intro or a motion-captured animation for that money.

Lastly, there are the game buyers, and perhaps it's just me, but everytime I see sales figures charts I can't help but shaking my head because of the crap that's usually on the first five spots. So, if one game of a certain type was successful, companies will pump out sequels and adaptions as long as the sheep buy all the stuff, anything else wouldn't make sense in the eyes of a game company's CEO. Tasteless, yes, but profitable, and that's what they want.

It's up to us to break this circle. If ppl would stop buying short-lived, run-of-the-mill crap games that were released to get a quick buck, companies would think twice before re-hashing the same ole' junk over and over again.
 

Amix

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Real gamers like us (you and me, the Neo-Geo community
I guess a majority of my game playing buddies aren't real gamers.

I'll go tell them.
 

Shred

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dmhawkmoon:
You guys don't want to play this game online or what? I hope you MS bashers are using Macs or Linux...
Hey back of the L word. I use Linux 99.9% of the time at home and I still own an XBox. Why lets see Panzer Dragoon, Steel Battalion and several other games I have for it. I would love to see SNKvCAP on the XBox with Live support that would be great.
 

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dmhawkmoon:
You guys don't want to play this game online or what? I hope you MS bashers are using Macs or Linux...
What ever they use they are really just waiting for the ROMZ and Killera. Cheaper than actually supporting SvC:Chaos wink
 
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