Are AES games a port? (please move to war room or lock, thanks)

Yup, that's it. Plain and simple. With all the ports bashing that has been around lately, specially from AES owners, I've just thought about this one. The MVS games are released first than the AES versions, so they are ports to a console for home use. Notice that not all the MVS games are ported to AES, so this puts more differences into this 2 systems

OK, so you will all start with "You prick, the AES has exactly the same hardware as the MVS and the games are exactly the same, as they even share the same roms". And guess what? You are right. But that's not my point. Although I could reply that the MVS video/sound output is far better than the AES, and with the unibios the MVS can do the same as the AES and much more. But again that's not my point.

So what's the definition of port ? Now THAT's my point. In my opinion, you need to physically change a bit the MVS version in order to make it work with the AES as those are no compatible systems (OK, I'm not considering the phantom nor the conversions), so that could be considered porting the games.

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OK, now seriously, take it easy on me and don't flame that much, please. I just one you all to think a bit and stretch the idea of what is considered a port. I know most of my ideas in this post are pretty ridiculous, I won't try to defend them.

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Edit: OK, I've had fun for enough time, please lock this topic or send it to the war room. Thanks and sorry for the trouble.

<small>[ June 21, 2003, 12:49 PM: Message edited by: Amano Jacu ]</small>

Amanu,I generally try to see eye on eye with your post but this time your reasoning is wayyy off.

AES and MVS have SAME games,SAME chips.
Try to think about converters,you will have your answer.

Ah, who cares. It's the same damn game.. same everything except for the packaging. There's no "better" cause it's the SAME.

Just enjoy what you're playing... who cares what everybody else thinks??? I sure as hell don't.

Same chips, same programs. Just on different sized PCBs.

I consider a port a game that has under gone some sort of program alteration to make it run on different hardware.

SamuraiShodownSensei:
Same chips, same programs. Just on different sized PCBs.

I consider a port a game that has under gone some sort of program alteration to make it run on different hardware.

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Exactly. Some ports are excellent and some are lame. But NGH carts are the same as MVS games except that they are made for the home system instead of the MVS Boards.

Home carts are not ports. Once you are playing a game, the hardware functions identically regardless of if it MVS or AES.

Geddon_jt:
Home carts are not ports. Once you are playing a game, the hardware functions identically regardless of if it MVS or AES.

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That is 100% correct. You can boot a home cart in MVS mode and an MVS cart in home mode. Both versions of a cart have EXACTLY the same coding allowing them to do this. How is that a port? In the case of software performance, there is no difference in the two. Audio/video connections on the other hand...

When you code a game for use on a system that it was not initially developed for, THAT is a port.

The media the game is delivered on is different. The BIOS is different. The hardware is also slightly different (with regards to RGB for exmaple) but that is irrelevant here.

The software program/code is the SAME.

A 'port' is a term used by software engineers when they refer to 'porting' (comes from portable) their code from one platform to another. In this case, no change to the code is necessary so it is not a port.

There's a port on a western bay
And it serves a hundred ships a day
Lonely sailors pass the time away
And talk about their homes

I had a modded home system and you could tell the system it was an MVS board . So the games were exactly the same . Anything on Home or MVS is the same .

The only reason they made the carts differnet sizes , so the arcade venders couldn't buy the home version for lots less and use them in their arcades .

There the same. I collect all neo formats and I dont see one damn inferiority in anything. Except maybe later neo cd's and sprite reduction. Which has been documented.

Move along. There is nothing to see here.

So when I download a rom to my computer that is a port to right?

mungrin:
So when I download a rom to my computer that is a port to right?

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Im not a tech junkie so i may be way off but here goes.

Its a port because you need the extra coding (emulator) to run the program (rom). Plus you are physically changing platforms (neo to pc) (rom to harddrive).

How'd i do? wink

ThePunisher:

mungrin:
So when I download a rom to my computer that is a port to right?

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Im not a tech junkie so i may be way off but here goes.

Its a port because you need the extra coding (emulator) to run the program (rom). Plus you are physically changing platforms (neo to pc) (rom to harddrive).

How'd i do? wink

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Sounds about right to me, plus gayulators always have glitches or slowdown to them. As stated above, MVS and AES carts use the same ships so they are the same. Only difference is the RGB input video in the MVS cabs, but since there are RGB adaptors available for the AES there is no difference. (also stated above)

Untrue. Same motor, diff'rent casing is all.

CD, yeah, it's unique, but the 3rd most pure method of Neo gaming.

Arcade
Home
CD,

is the order we should all obey, but Arcade and home are identical and can be interchanged. No port.

Emulation...is washed out and you are distanced from the purity a few degrees of seperation. It's mind boggling, it is.

This whole damn thread is an underpowered port of a previous thread that was beating the same dead horse.

Mike

The horse you speak of is actually a pony. Pony's are inferior girly-ports.

Get off your high-pony, fagbot. make_fac make_fac

Rade Kuruc:
The horse you speak of is actually a pony. Pony's are inferior girly-ports.

Get off your high-pony, fagbot. make_fac make_fac

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ME = OWNED

Mike

[/qb][/QUOTE]Sounds about right to me, plus gayulators always have glitches or slowdown to them. As stated above, MVS and AES carts use the same ships so they are the same. Only difference is the RGB input video in the MVS cabs, but since there are RGB adaptors available for the AES there is no difference. (also stated above) [/QB][/QUOTE]


LOL. Emulators? With glitches or slowdown?!? Actually emulators are faster than playing on the real hardware.

HAHAHA! Yes MVS is original! AES / NGH are slapped togather ports!

OK, OK, I do agree this thread is stupid and it should be moved to the war room, I just can't understand why I wrote it in the first place. I thought about this when Tarma said that the english AES carts are inferior ports of the jap ones (of course that was one of his infamous "jokes") and it's not worth it paying extra $$$ for just some differences in the insert, etc. Then I thought: "Man, if we see it like this then with more reason all AES are ports of the MVS, and even at a much superior price".

That's all. Sorry for the trouble.

amano

you're one of the stupidiest posters i have ever seen

Fran:
amano

you're one of the stupidiest posters i have ever seen

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lol

Yeah, Fran your a great poster! Thanks for the insight!

pyrokilla:

Fran:
amano

you're one of the stupidiest posters i have ever seen

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lol

Yeah, Fran your a great poster! Thanks for the insight!

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you are not good at trolling