the hidden agendas of big bear....

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DRUNKEN SHAOLIN DEVIL

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wow!!! look what i found about neo.coms beloved moron mod!!!
looks like he went straight to the freakers and tried to have them peddle his cock boxes!!!

AHAGHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA BIG BOOB YOU KILL ME AHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!OH GOD.....SO MANY 2 FACED PPL IN THIS SCENE ITS SAD....

Many inquiries came to us about the talk over some idea that there have been custom cases made to fit MVS cartridges to give them an AES look, all for the outrages some of $10.00 each!. Nothing can be further from the truth. If these cases were "custom made" then they would have been the exact correct size and not overly big as they currently are. As we said before, we were contacted by the person who made these cases (he has 5000 in stock) and he wanted us to sell them. He initially offered them through some people to sell on auction sites and through other Neo Exchange sites with complete failure at $10.00 and then $6.99. He asked for our help, he said he needed to make some money back and wanted to sell them to through us for $5.00 each, which we were going to offer to everyone for ZERO profit (just to help this person move them). We told him that we knew those were nothing more than "UMATIC" vinyl cases used in the professional video business. These can be bought in bulk for about $1.00 each. Upon telling him this and after doing more research, we decided that the MVS collectors didn't want these cases, and most MVS collectors prefer the original SNK cardboard MVS boxes (we do). And the key issues was the incorrect size of the cases. The inner case fits the cartridge perfectly, but the overall size of the cases was just wrong. And if we cannot fully give something the "NGF approval" we told him that we could not and would not sell these through our sites. We are not telling people not to buy them, we are just giving the facts and our opinions. Now this person is offering them for $3.00, which we feel is a much better price for the average MVS collector. At that price he should be able to move all his excess vinyl cases. For other people who may want to buy the vinyl umatic cases, all anyone has to do is a search for "umatic vinyl cases" and you will find many places they sell and offer them in various colors. There is a place that will custom make them at www.nexpak.com. We hope this information helps everyone who may have wanted to order or make some of these cases on their own. If anyone else wants to have these cases custom made in the CORRECT size, we recommend that the cases should be made in the color black. Then you can feel free to send one into NeoGeoFreak/NGF-USA for us to evaluate and report on. If everything is of top quality and of the proper size for the cartridge and more importantly the insert, then we will fully recommend the cases to our customer base world-wide with the full "NGF Approval."
 

BIG BEAR

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HAHAHAHAH!!! I've addressed those LIES over an over..time and time again...
You are late and still trying to redeem yourself from the false accusations you made about the latest US Neo Geo releases..
You are SAD DSD...
I spit a fire much more intense than you wear so please..please..don't make me have to obliterate your ignorant ass once again!
-BB
 

BIG BEAR

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BTW,consider the source....
Sense when you become a 'BIG TYMER'? You got nothing on me SAMMY!
-BB
 
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DRUNKEN SHAOLIN DEVIL

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THE PLAGUE IS PPL LIKE YOU,HYPOCRITS!!!

AHAHAHAAAAA WHAT A BOOB!!!!!

NO WONDER YOU HATE NGF NOW AHAHAHAAAA EVEN THEY SEEN THROUGH YOUR IDIOCY...

YOU WILL OBLITERATE ME HUH??

I DOUBT IT HIGHLY...

YOUR TOO STUPID....
 

BIG BEAR

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Originally posted by DRUNKEN SHAOLIN DEVIL:
<STRONG>THE PLAGUE IS PPL LIKE YOU,HYPOCRITS!!!

AHAHAHAAAAA WHAT A BOOB!!!!!

NO WONDER YOU HATE NGF NOW AHAHAHAAAA EVEN THEY SEEN THROUGH YOUR IDIOCY...

YOU WILL OBLITERATE ME HUH??

I DOUBT IT HIGHLY...

YOUR TOO STUPID....</STRONG>

Okay rather than turn this into a FLAME thread how about some PROOF?
Do you have any SAMMY? How can you prove what they say is true SAMMY?
SAMMY,are you a supporter of NGF?
YES or NO SAMMY!!
COme with FACTS and answer my question!!
DO YOU SUPPORT the criminal activities of NGF??
ANSWER ME or I will not address you in this thread again! Provide PROOF and answer my question about you supporting NGF if you want to be taken seriously!
Okay HOMIE!
-BB
 
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DRUNKEN SHAOLIN DEVIL

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THE PROOF IS ABOVE..

DID YOU OR DID YOU NOT ATTEMPT TO HAVE NGF DISTRIBUTE YOUR SHIT MVS BOXES THAT CAN BE BOUGHT AT BLOCKBUSTER?

I DISPISE NGF,BUT PPL LIKE YOU WHO CLAIM TO HATE THEM BUT YET RUNN TO THEM TO SELL YOUR WARES ...KNOW THAT IS JUST GAWWWDAMN FUNNY!!!

AS FOR YOUR FLAMES OBLITERATEING ME..
THE ONLY ONE WHO MIGHT AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT IS YOUR SIDEKICK IN RETARDEDNESS CHIMPMOLESTER....

AHAHAHAAAAAAA EVEN NGF SHOT YOU DOWN!!!

AHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA NOW THATS FUNNY!!
 
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DRUNKEN SHAOLIN DEVIL

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in order to avoid a long draWn out elementary school battle with this mentally challeged boob....

I REST MY CASE.
 

BIG BEAR

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Originally posted by DRUNKEN SHAOLIN DEVIL:
<STRONG>THE PROOF IS ABOVE..

DID YOU OR DID YOU NOT ATTEMPT TO HAVE NGF DISTRIBUTE YOUR SHIT MVS BOXES THAT CAN BE BOUGHT AT BLOCKBUSTER?

I DISPISE NGF,BUT PPL LIKE YOU WHO CLAIM TO HATE THEM BUT YET RUNN TO THEM TO SELL YOUR WARES ...KNOW THAT IS JUST GAWWWDAMN FUNNY!!!
</STRONG>

Once again DSD you bring with you absolutely NOTHING. You yourself claim you despise NGF but use there propaganda as proof??? Hold up,let me run this by you once again because we all know you're a lil slow...
You despise NGF yet you believe a couple of paragraphs filled with lies ?? Again. You believe a group of criminals you despise??
That really make sense DSD..ONLY TO YOU!
HAhah what a weak attempt at SLANDERING ME..
you can do better than that can't ya SAMMY?
TRY AGAIN FOOL!
-BB
 
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DRUNKEN SHAOLIN DEVIL

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I BELIEVE YOU APPROACHED THEM TO SELL YOUR SHIT MVS CASES YES ......

STILL TRYIN TO COVER UP YOUR TRACKS AND LIE ABOUT IT HUH..

YOU LOSE.


YA BIG GOOF.
 
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DRUNKEN SHAOLIN DEVIL

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YEA IS THAT A THREAT???

GOOD ITS WELL DOCUMENTED,1000 PPL HAVE JUST WITNESSED BIG BOOB THREATEN ME WITH VIOLENCE..

BUT ME ON THE OTHER HAND INVITE YOU TO COME ON OVER WITH A COUPLE COCK BOXES AND FREINDS,SO I CAN PUT YOU WHERE THE REST WHO'VE TRIED TO OBLITERATE ME LAY.....

THE DETROIT RIVER
 

Blaine

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I've read this passage before and when I first came here.

I spent a while trying to find those Umatic cases before I came here.

I never found case 1.

I couldn't even find them with the power of google.

If they can be found in many places that's news to me.
 
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TonK

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Big Bear, are those MVS cases you sell "Custom Made?"

How much did you pay for the mold?

Who drew up the design?

Who did the fabrication for you?

I'd like some answers...

and a phone number...

Since NGF is lying about it I'm sure you have proof to back up your story...

Wheres Chimp?
 

djbomberman

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I just don't get it. Why the whole hate thing here? Why? You really think that with all the LIES that NGF has told that there is any thing that is true to come out of their mouth? I think NGF has been disproven, actaully BY YOU DSD, to be liars. So that's why I am confused as to why you possibly believe anything they say. DSD I'm not really understanding your point. Is this whole thread on the basis that Big Bear went to NGF trying to have them sell his cases? I am just trying to figure this out. I am trying to see what you are seeing here DSD. I know you have made some "lone" stances and been right before in the past.........but this one I'm not seeing as clear........

I myself am seeing the that NGF is just trying to put down Big Bear's cases because they know that if people can get nice MVS cases and FREE inserts to make their "inexpensive" MVS collection look like AES homecarts they will loose bussiness...and some of their "World-wide" Customer base....yeah whatever....Osama Bin Laden is a "Big Tymer"...so NGF tries to discredit Big Bear with a post like that......
Reading what they write just angers me.....Why the fuck should I care if NGF approves a fucking case size? I think the cases are nice.....I myself prefer the original cardboard......but I still "approve" of Big Bears MVS cases.....there Big Bears cases have the "DJBOMBERMAN" stamp of approval.........
 
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TonK

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Originally posted by djbomberman:
<STRONG>I just don't get it. Why the whole hate thing here? Why? You really think that with all the LIES that NGF has told that there is any thing that is true to come out of their mouth? I think NGF has been disproven, actaully BY YOU DSD, to be liars. So that's why I am confused as to why you possibly believe anything they say. DSD I'm not really understanding your point. Is this whole thread on the basis that Big Bear went to NGF trying to have them sell his cases? I am just trying to figure this out. I am trying to see what you are seeing here DSD. I know you have made some "lone" stances and been right before in the past.........but this one I'm not seeing as clear........

I myself am seeing the that NGF is just trying to put down Big Bear's cases because they know that if people can get nice MVS cases and FREE inserts to make their "inexpensive" MVS collection look like AES homecarts they will loose bussiness...and some of their "World-wide" Customer base....yeah whatever....Osama Bin Laden is a "Big Tymer"...so NGF tries to discredit Big Bear with a post like that......
Reading what they write just angers me.....Why the fuck should I care if NGF approves a fucking case size? I think the cases are nice.....I myself prefer the original cardboard......but I still "approve" of Big Bears MVS cases.....there Big Bears cases have the "DJBOMBERMAN" stamp of approval.........</STRONG>

Thats not my argument Dj, address my issues

<IMG SRC="smilies/glee.gif" border="0">
 
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TonK

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I proposed several questions I would like answered, if NGF are liars then Big Bear can answer my questions with ease...

The NGF thing is getting old now, lets stick with the issue at hand!
 

djbomberman

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Originally posted by TonK:
<STRONG>Thats not my argument Dj, address my issues

<IMG SRC="smilies/glee.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

If you had started the thread I'd of addressed your issue first.......You did ask some good questions....I just think though it's like a whole circle now......Prove NGF is lying by prooving your not.....and you're right on that TONK, this whole NGF issue is getting old......
 

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I actually like BB's cases more than the cardboard ones. I'm going to save the few cardboard cases I have, but all the games are going in BB's cases with my own custom inserts. I could care less where BB went to try and sell them, the Neo community is pretty small and when someone comes out witha product that address a PART of that market (MVS people only), you need to hit all possible places to distribute. Nothing wrong with that.

All I do know is that I'm so friggin happy I got those cases from BB cause now my MVS carts can be protected and look cool when i make my inserts.

Also, I heard about these cases from NGF's site (I was there before I knew this board existed), and I asked to be put in contact with BB, never happened. I also looked for these cases on my own (the UMATIC ones), no luck. I even contacted a friend who is in video productions and asked if he can hook me up with UMATIC cases that were the right size. He couldn't even find them after being shown a MVS cart. And this guy deals with these tapes all the time.

DSD, I can apprecaite all the stuff you post, even if it's just flames and stupid insults. It's kinda fun to do every once and awhile, especially if it's done well. But the posts haven't been hilarious lately, I don't know if this fued w/ BB or Chimp is a joke or not, but if you're going to post stuff like this outside of the war room, at least make it funny.


Peace

JHendrix

[ October 22, 2001: Message edited by: JHendrix ]
 

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It has been said by NGF, who BTW has a vested interest in MVS sales NOT intruding on the buying habits of home cart buyers, that Big Bears cases are simply the same cases that are "readily available" for 3/4" video cassette tapes (the kind that local news would use for television broadcast). Well, the truth is that the REELS contained within the tape casing ALONE are practically too deep to even fit in the Shock cases, let alone an entire, assembled tape cassette. Point being, if the reels within the cassette case barely fit in the Shock Box due too their depth, how can a fully realized and assembled 3/4" video cassette? The answer is, they CAN'T. Bear's cases are NOT classic video cases. The cassettes DON'T FIT. I know this. I interned at an NBC affiliate when I was in college. I am quite familiar with the tapes to which they are referring. The actual case manufacturer may very well make video cases. And...what's the point? Where would you go if you wanted to create a case that approximated a video cassette clamshell in many ways?

And by the way, the last thing those two should be criticizing ANYONE on is pricing. Their PROTO sales, aside from being the work of pirates (since SNK, while on life support, is still a living and breathing entity, unlike Atari), are so ridiculously cheap for them to produce that the sale price to their zombie customers should be regarded as criminal. So BB starts selling his cases at $10 and then drops them down later. So what? He's feeling out the market like any smart person would do. What's their excuse for butt fucking their own clientele with EPROM'd proto carts that cost pennies on the dollar for them to produce?

In any case, I remember Big Bear talking about these things months and months before he even offered them for sale (was that on the DHP, BB?). He was taking measurements and getting proto's back to check for a tight fit and what not, all of which he told us about, as he was excited with how well they were coming along. Obviously, some of you here either did not see, do not remember or did not have access to those communications when they were being made, but I did and I remember them vividly. I need no additional proof of anything. I've been close to the television business and know NGF's claim to be an out and out lie. Of the rest, I either don't care or already have my answers. Believe what you will to suit your own needs, but I had a seat for the whole process and have the life experience to know better.


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[ October 22, 2001: Message edited by: RyoGeo ]
 

Blaine

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Originally posted by JHendrix:
<STRONG> I also looked for these cases on my own (the UMATIC ones), no luck. I even contacted a friend who is in video productions and asked if he can hook me up with UMATIC cases that were the right size. He couldn't even find them after being shown a MVS cart. </STRONG>

Glad to see someone else tried to find these cases and failed as well.
 

outsider

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This "news" is so OLD is pathetic. It's funny, as soon as they lifted DSD's ban, he's back at doing his favorite thing: spewing hate and trashing the board.

Just ban him for once and for all already.
 

Rade K

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I thought this was discussed and shelved away months ago when the lies were first told by NGF.

DSD, your efforts to discredit others has ultimately discredited yourself. It is ironic in a poetic kind of way.
 

chimpmeister

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Originally posted by DRUNKEN SHAOLIN DEVIL:
<STRONG>wow!!! look what i found about neo.coms beloved moron mod!!!
looks like he went straight to the freakers and tried to have them peddle his cock boxes!!!

AHAGHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA BIG BOOB YOU KILL ME AHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!OH GOD.....SO MANY 2 FACED PPL IN THIS SCENE ITS SAD....

Many inquiries came to us about the talk over some idea that there have been custom cases made to fit MVS cartridges to give them an AES look, all for the outrages some of $10.00 each!. Nothing can be further from the truth. If these cases were "custom made" then they would have been the exact correct size and not overly big as they currently are. As we said before, we were contacted by the person who made these cases (he has 5000 in stock) and he wanted us to sell them. He initially offered them through some people to sell on auction sites and through other Neo Exchange sites with complete failure at $10.00 and then $6.99. He asked for our help, he said he needed to make some money back and wanted to sell them to through us for $5.00 each, which we were going to offer to everyone for ZERO profit (just to help this person move them). We told him that we knew those were nothing more than "UMATIC" vinyl cases used in the professional video business. These can be bought in bulk for about $1.00 each. Upon telling him this and after doing more research, we decided that the MVS collectors didn't want these cases, and most MVS collectors prefer the original SNK cardboard MVS boxes (we do). And the key issues was the incorrect size of the cases. The inner case fits the cartridge perfectly, but the overall size of the cases was just wrong. And if we cannot fully give something the "NGF approval" we told him that we could not and would not sell these through our sites. We are not telling people not to buy them, we are just giving the facts and our opinions. Now this person is offering them for $3.00, which we feel is a much better price for the average MVS collector. At that price he should be able to move all his excess vinyl cases. For other people who may want to buy the vinyl umatic cases, all anyone has to do is a search for "umatic vinyl cases" and you will find many places they sell and offer them in various colors. There is a place that will custom make them at www.nexpak.com. We hope this information helps everyone who may have wanted to order or make some of these cases on their own. If anyone else wants to have these cases custom made in the CORRECT size, we recommend that the cases should be made in the color black. Then you can feel free to send one into NeoGeoFreak/NGF-USA for us to evaluate and report on. If everything is of top quality and of the proper size for the cartridge and more importantly the insert, then we will fully recommend the cases to our customer base world-wide with the full "NGF Approval."</STRONG>

HAHAHAHA, DSD has sunk to the level of QUOTING NGF in his posts?!?! That crap that Chris Ray posted is more typical NGF lies, and I'm shocked that YOU, of all people, would actually post it!! I guess the comparisons of you with NGF were more accurate than anyone thought . . . <IMG SRC="smilies/ohno.gif" border="0">
 
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