Originally posted by chimpmeister:
<STRONG>The thing is LWK, if you hate it so much here (and it would seem to be that way based on your post here), why stay around? There are other forums that probably would NOT edit ANYTHING you say, why not try them out? Seems to me a bit hypocritical that on one hand you rant an rail about how horrible the "censorship" is here, but on the other hand you post here extremely frequently. This is not a flame, just an observation. You know yourself that I haven't flamed or attacked you in quite a while, we had our differences but we've put that behind us, right?
As for the "troll" label, only one person has consistenly been labelled a troll, and that person is TonK. However with delete post funtion disabled, he has lost the ability to cover his tracks and can no longer stir up and manipulate the forums the way he used to. Now many of his recent posts consist of one word: SPAM.
Others seem to get off on hate, lies, threats, and name calling, and that's a level BEYOND a simple TROLL.
You would have 100% free speech, with nothing at all edited, but any forums operated in that manner are doomed to self-destruct. Some level of editing and management is necessary in ANY forums that are active with high levels of posts.
Now if you want censorship, try the forums ("discussion board", or "Information Exchange", better viewed as "Propaganda Exchange" or PE) at
www.ngfusa.com . THERE is a message board where, for the paltry number of posts and members (and many fake members too), if you don't fawn and grovel over Dion and Chris' main line, your posts will NOT remain.
As for your criticism of Geddon, you and Drift King EX are way off base; recently I was browsing the PE forums and saw that since Geddon had supported the legitimacy of the English MS3 home cart release, Dion REMOVED some of his posts and BANNED his ability to post any additional responses. So in my mind Geddon is NOT "pro-NGF", in fact he is one of the only ones who stood up to these guys in their own forums, and since they couldn't handle the truth, they silenced him. He may have been much more supportive of NGF in the past (KOF2K "English", etc.), but these days I think he's not that way at all. <IMG SRC="smilies/ohno.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
"The thing is LWK, if you hate it so much here (and it would seem to be that way based on your post here), why stay around?"
I do not hate it here, if I did I would not have stuck around. I love this place, I want it to stay the way it used to be.
"There are other forums that probably would NOT edit ANYTHING you say, why not try them out?"
This is a neo site for neo fans, which lately stuff has been dissapearing, posts have been edited and accounts manipulated.
Injustice, maybe not but how many other places does the neo scene thrive as much as this?
Why can't things stay as they were?
Change can be good or bad, lately though it seems things are on the slip side.
"As for the "troll" label, only one person has consistenly been labelled a troll, and that person is TonK. However with delete post funtion disabled, he has lost the ability to cover his tracks and can no longer stir up and manipulate the forums the way he used to. Now many of his recent posts consist of one word: SPAM."
I to have had my problems with TonK in the past, but you know what?
I think he's a funny guy.
I may get grilled for saying that but tonk is pretty amusing sometimes.
"You would have 100% free speech, with nothing at all edited, but any forums operated in that manner are doomed to self-destruct."
Opposite scenario IMO.
This forum was doing great with the way things were when you could have 100% free speech.
Now that things are being "tightened" war will start anew.
DEVIL_GUI sent out a warning card, or ultimatem, I will take his word before anyone elses.
Look what happened to nick_th_fury's topic,
"Et Tu Shawn"
Something missing from the start? check page 2 of the waroom for the result <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">
"Now if you want censorship, try the forums ("discussion board", or "Information Exchange", better viewed as "Propaganda Exchange" or PE) at
www.ngfusa.com ."
Nah, I would rather speak of things that are important, ngf is not important, what some people dont realize is they love negative publicity. ANYTHING that can get there broken distorted name out there they could not be happier to see.
I see it this way, when a newbie comes you just warn them about ngf, it seems lately though thats all BB and a few others talk about and it gets depressing.
If Dion was shot, I honestly would not care.
"As for your criticism of Geddon, you and Drift King EX are way off base; recently I was browsing the PE forums and saw that since Geddon had supported the legitimacy of the English MS3 home cart release, Dion REMOVED some of his posts and BANNED his ability to post any additional responses."
Who's fault is that? He confided in something that people have been warned about since the begining of time and got screwed.
Dion is a dickhead, we all know that.
Geddon was posting there so he ran the risk of being communized by Adolf Dakis.
"So in my mind Geddon is NOT "pro-NGF", in fact he is one of the only ones who stood up to these guys in their own forums, and since they couldn't handle the truth, they silenced him. He may have been much more supportive of NGF in the past (KOF2K "English", etc.), but these days I think he's not that way at all."
Geddon I have not met in reality, but I do disagree with him editing people's material, thats understandable, because the sad thing is now...
When you write a response you have that edgy fear it might dissapear, sad I feel that way.
I barely speak my true feelings on these things. Is it really that bad?
[ October 19, 2001: Message edited by: Lord Wolfgang Krauser ]
