Those sneaky NGf*cks

I had bought a home cart off ebay a couple months ago from a trustworthy seller (never NGfucks, never). It was MINT, and complete and with everything authentic. But a couple days ago I got to thinking about the differences between the Japanese and English inserts; my collection comprising of 99% Japanese. I started comparing the two styles. How bout the cases I wondered to myself. So I inspect the case of the english cart I bought off ebay. And lo ,and fucking ruined my whole godamn fuckin weekend, behold I see, written in black marker, the word DION on one of the sides. I just about fainted. Why me Whyyyyyyyyyy?
What did I do to deserve this? Fuckin had an aneurism. After vicious thoughts went through my head and almost throwing the evil cart out of my window, I finally calmed down and thought. I thought of the least abrasive substance that can remove marker. I got some alcohol swab. Hallelujah, the foul mark came off. I went back to checked through all the pages of the manual to see if stickers were present and thankfully there were none.

My fellow Neo friends. Purge your collection of this foulness. Don't over react when you find it, like I did.

Sorry if I'm scaring you guys but it was my duty as a Neo Geo fan to tell you.

I'd like to know a way to remove the silver/black stickers they put on everything..

=R=

Isn't it about time we pooled our money together to hire some gang to take care of those fools?

Originally posted by Rancor:
<STRONG>I'd like to know a way to remove the silver/black stickers they put on everything..

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I posted this before, so raather than re-write it all, I'll just re-quote!
Try it out, carefully, it does wotk!

Originally posted by Metal Slug:
<STRONG>Right, now I'm a bit of a wonder at removing stickers!
If its the "non-removable" type,
First, try warming the sticker up to loosen the glue, be careful doing this because to much heat will cause the paper to curl.
I tend to heat up an iron, and hold it close to the area you want to heat, dont let it touch! especially if the sticker is plasticised. Next quickly lift one corner with a razor blade, and using tweezers or fingers if you're a steady handed person, try to peel it off! Its best to put the booklet flat on a table to do this, and support the paper on either side as you apply pressure. If it becomes difficult , start again.
Thats the easy bit! If it has worked, you will be left with some greasy residue/ adhesive. The best way to remove this is with a solvent. You cant use solvent on paper though, so you have to be a bit more creative. Try rubbing a small amount of pure plain flour into the residue, this will dry it and stop it spreading. next GENTLY rub the glue toward the edge of the booklet. keep adding the flour, and be careful to support the paper so it does not crease!
With care and practise this technique can be used to remove non-peelable stickers from ten year old nes games boxes!!!!!
And if you're careful, it leaves no trace!

Make sure your hands are perfectly clean, I wash them and dry them every ten or so minutes during the operation so as to not get fingerprints on the shiny paper.

Oh god! I ve just read through this, and it occurs to me how obsessed I come acrosss! <IMG SRC="smilies/ohno.gif" border="0">
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I think the people who piss me off the most aren't NGF anymore...

It's painfully obvious to most everyone on this board that NGF is worthless in every way. Most all of us think this. It's insane NOT to think this.

The people who piss me off are the few among us that actively deal with - and support - NGF.

People are responsible, and should be held accountable, for their associations. Anyone who "pals around" with NGF should be a joke in this community.

I removed NGF sticker from my KOF99 cart <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

ORIGINALY POSTED BY NEO BUYER:

"I think the people who piss me off the most aren't NGF anymore...
It's painfully obvious to most everyone on this board that NGF is worthless in every way. Most all of us think this. It's insane NOT to think this.

The people who piss me off are the few among us that actively deal with - and support - NGF.

People are responsible, and should be held accountable, for their associations. Anyone who "pals around" with NGF should be a joke in this community."
--------------------------------------------- well, is that so fuck nut. let me tel you some thing. I buy from NGF, I am DAMN PROUD of it. I also buy from and support all other sources in the neo scene. I have NEVER had A problem with NFG so far. the products, shipping and service have been acceptional.
many people here on this forum can tell you that I am no NGF'er( I HATE that term!)the point simply is that I will buy from who i see fit. Its hard enough finding neo stuff as it is. I am not going to stop buying from A company because some people who I dont even know have (supposedly) had bad deals with them. on top of that there are to many kids who have NEVER done business with them and them say "fuck NGF" just to make friends here. then when they actually talk to dion or chris online they start kissing ass imediately.
NEOBUYER you have NO right saying that i should be "held accountable" for my "association" with NGF. if I hated arcade solutions and you continued to do business with them I would not be telling others to cast you out and hold you accountable. what you do is your business.
all I have to say is that all your post says is that you are either A child or just A completely shalow minded person.

Originally posted by ORPHEUS:
<STRONG>...let me tel you some thing. I buy from NGF, I am DAMN PROUD of it.

...all I have to say is that all your post says is that you are either A child or just A completely shalow minded person.</STRONG>

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Well, the first part of your post says it all.

You are DAMN PROUD of buying from NGF.

That's great Orph, I just hope all the others here that do the same would also share this with us.

When I say 'held accountable' I don't mean castigated or shunned, I mean that knowing who deals with/pals around with NGF IS important to knowing where everyone stands.

People ARE responsible for their actions/associations, are they not?

As far as me being either a child or a completely shallow minded person, well you're free to think what you like. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

I'll never support NGF for these reasons alone:

1.) The way they treat people on this and other message boards

2.) Their inability to answer a question -- they change the subject when something
questionable is brought up


3.) Their prices --- it's not collectable unless it actually rolled off an SNK assembly line (i.e. if their hands touch the cart in any way, then it is not collectable IMO).

NEOBUYER, I am just curious as to what you mean by "held accountable" me buying from NHF is not the end of the world. you schmucks are the ones who keep all this stupid shit alive by giving them the negative publicity. its YOUR fault, not mine. if they bug you so much dont even mention them and all this stupid crap will go away. you dont see me telling you or neo lor(or anyone else for that matter)to like NGF. I believe if you guys dont like them that is fine, but grow some balls and stick to your guns. dont keep talking about them, checking out thier BBS to "just check up on what stupid stuff they are talking about now"
(Oh yeah, I love that pathetic excuse)

POSTED BY NEOBUYER:
"When I say 'held accountable' I don't mean castigated or shunned, I mean that knowing who deals with/pals around with NGF IS important to knowing where everyone stands"
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if THAT is not the biggest bunch of CRAP I have heard. did you even bother to go back and read what you first posted.
you said that any one who dealt with NGF should be considered A joke. to me and alot of other people that is in the same league as being shuned and cast out.
the bottom line is I do not have to apologize for dealing with any one. and I dont have to be the victim at all here. you went to extremes about something completely piontles. and let me tell you some thing budy, if thats the way you feel about anyone and every one who has dealt with ngf than you got A rude awakening coming up, because thier are MANY people who have dealt with NGF and still do. my argument with you is not so much as your hate for NGF but for your hate for the people who buy from them., myself included. who the HELL do you think you are to judge me for who I buy from. are you that pathetic. YOU are the one who should be "cast out" since you are so narrow minded and lack the tollerance that many others have.

by the way. its not like I think NGF is the only solution and ALWAYS right. I have had my issues with them and have always spoke my mind. you can see this by some of my posts on thier BBS. unlike many others I am never biased and ai NEVER will be.

hmmm...

You are being mighty defensive about this Orph,

What's got you so worried? <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

its YOUR fault, not mine. if they bug you so much dont even mention them and all this stupid crap will go away.

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God you guys crack me up. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
This crap never ends, so I guess the only way to escape it is to drop out of the scene.
Never ends, but then thats the way it goes.


Honestly,
I dont give a shit who anyone buys from.
But does it color my opinions. Sure it does.
NGF jacked with a lot of people.
A HELL of a Lot. People I like.
So when someone new comes along, & expects others to accept their dealing.

Orpheous, Your going to catch flak.
Deal with it.
It aint right, but hey, blame NGF.

Only NGF is resposible. Their customers pay the price.

Is it cause people are immature? No.
Is it because people are jerks? No.

The reason is, before they started the "business" of being ngf, Half of the duo acted like areal jerk.

If you had been there, you'd know.
You'd have seen the people, comlaining about being delt unfairly.
Again & again & again & again & again & again & again & again & again & again & again & again & again & again & again & again & again & again & again & again & again & again & again & again & again & again & again & again & again & again & again.

They never even tried to make it right.
Just said, fuck off, Too Bad.

Then they turned over a new leaf.
I've heard from lots of people like yourself that are happy with em.

Does that make the past ok?


No friend of mine would deal with someone that jacked me.

So anyone that got jacked, might just be looking at it like that.

Exactly my point, Nick. My friend Hupplark_39 had a similiar problem with Dion back in the day. You know, the typical "It was lost in the mail -- you'll have to pay for it twice) menality. I don't think so...

Nick, I agree with you.
you make A good point.
look, I know not all the claims of bad deals in the past with NGF are true, but i do know that some of them are.
I know I will catch flak, but what NEOBUYER said was unacceptable. he went to extremes saying any one who dealt with NGF should be considered A joke. shit, when i sell games to people they get what they paid for and I have had NO complaints. I am not "A joke" and niether are many of the other people on this forum who have dealt with NGF(there are many)
NEO BUYER, you should think about what you are saying before you type it. you ask me what I am so rilled up about and you should know you doink. like I said before, how would you feel if I called you A joke because you dealt with some one that i did not aprove of. I dont think you would be to happy at all,. its not your place to judge me or any one else on this forum so piss off.

Originally posted by ORPHEUS:
<STRONG>...but what NEOBUYER said was unacceptable. he went to extremes saying any one who dealt with NGF should be considered A joke.</STRONG>

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Maybe we should start a poll?

It could simply say: "Do you think that people who actively buy from/support NGF are a joke?"

I am genuinely curious as to what the results would be.

I mean, shouldn't we all lay our cards on the table?

The results of the poll could settle this whole argument once and for all.

After all, I COULD be wrong....

fine with me. after all i have nothing to hide. I have been good to all the people on this forum. by the way I think it is interesting how you call so many people here
(Shawn, Silent scope,NSX-T,and others) a joke just based on the fact that they buy from NGF. you dont even know these people and you are labelling them, nice one man.
if you look at thesepeople and say that thier dealling with NGF is a lack of integrity, why not look at all the people who say they are against them but them cant stop talking about them (negative publicity spreads thier name you know) and signing up on thier BBS. THAT is lacking integrity.

Originally posted by neobuyer:
<STRONG>It could simply say: "Do you think that people who actively buy from/support NGF are a joke?"
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you'd first have to define your meaning of what "a joke" is. and then there'd be the entire war of semantics, permeating 3 different threads, 20 pages deep, and truthfully...that's too much crap for me to wade through.

i don't look at anyone differently for dealing with NGF, as long as they're happy with the service they've gotten. people outside of this forum do deal with NGF, so NGF isn't going anywhere, even if everyone on this board boycot them.

Why would you want to buy off a company that sticks warrenty void stickers all over there carts and manuals,and freaks inserts and sighns there name on stuff,its not a trustworthy company,some say they dont send the stuff.
I am new to the scene id admit that,but i have to beleave what people say about them cos i have no choice,do you honestly expect me to lay out cash on them "just to find out" what they are like,give me a break i aint stupid,im not gonna hand down money from a majority vote.

Im in the UK dealing in american sales is expensive and can be awkward enough let alone with someone who might not even send the goods,and when/if i do get the goods im pretty much garenteed that they will be freaked,i may try them on some games i cant get anywhere else but if it goes bad everybody will say "i told you so" and "what a pratt" if i dont deal with them people will say i cant have a say in the matter,
and people who buy from them will say well you dont know till you try.
What a dilema. <IMG SRC="smilies/ohno.gif" border="0">

Originally posted by ORPHEUS:
<STRONG>by the way I think it is interesting how you call so many people here
(Shawn, Silent scope,NSX-T,and others) a joke just based on the fact that they buy from NGF. you dont even know these people and you are labelling them, nice one man..</STRONG>

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I said people who ACTIVLELY deal with/support NGF and -- those who pal around with them, that's exactly what I said:

Originally posted by neobuyer:
<STRONG>People are responsible, and should be held accountable, for their associations. Anyone who "pals around" with NGF should be a joke in this community. .</STRONG>

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I don't believe Silent Scope dealt with NGF directly, and I can't speak for him, but I don't believe he would ever describe himself as pro-NGF. As far as Shawn goes, I also would not describe him as someone who ACTIVELY supports NGF (After all, they have made more than one appearance in the black book). I cannot comment on NSX-T as I have no idea what his position on this is.

I would really like to know what everyone's opinions on this are. Where Do we all stand right now, anyway? I mean, have many of us forgotten all the shit that went down with them in the past? Is all forgiven and forgotten?

I do agree that I'm giving *** way too much free publicity with this thread, so I won't mention them specifically in any more of my replies.

BTW ORPHEUS, I don't think integrity has anything to do with this argument. It has to do with ideas more than anything thing else. My biggest problem with *** has ALWAYS been their additude/arrogance, and all the "Big TYMER", "Executive Class" bullshit.

That is a big part of ***'s unpopularity IMO.

It's all the unbelievably BIASED lies that spew forth from them like some sort of corrupted 'Crump' fountain.

The other thing that pisses me off is their habit of trying to discredit their competition, but everybody knows all this already, don't they?

That's really my WHOLE POINT. It's good to know who is supporting these guys and their obnoxious, arrogant pseudo-business.

There, my cards are on the table.

well, i still think you are a prick,(i hardly feel that way about anyone on these forums) but I do agree with you on what you said to a certain degree. alot of the stuff NGF has said has made me luagh because of the actual ways they say it. I have never been much on the whole "BiG TYMER/EXECUTIVE CLASS" lingo but I still find them very easy to deal with and most of the talking I do with them is over the phone and dion and chris are both easy to talk, theres non of that "big tymer stuff"
I do not , however, like the way they have tried to put others down in the past though. like with the thread on these forums about arcades metal slug cart. VERY UNPROFESIONAL!
and when they called arcades phantom 1 adapter A "nice novelty item" in event gamings article. that was A low blow.
so dont try and say that NGF thrives because of me. there are others on these forums who buy from them, i will not say thier names as it is not my place.
lastly while you may not like the way NGF talks with all thier "big tymer" stuff, its just business and many other businesses do it but some are more scrutinized for it becauser they are under the microscope. at my job at best buy I have to talk A certain way to the customer and alot of the time the terminology used there(that we MUST use) makes us sound like A damn cult. but you know what i do, i laugh at it because it is stupid and it is just business.you have to learn to shake it off as do your customers.

I dont like the sound of there business practises,they put collectors and most other people off for that matter with the stickers and freaked inserts and stuff.
But i dont think people should be critisised for buying from them cos it is there money,
orpheus is welcome to buy from ngf it is his money and he can do what he damn well pleases with it.

I would just like to say that I have dealt with NGF in the past, and haven't had any problems. Dion and Chris have both been nothing but friendly and professional.

However, I have not purchased anything since the start of the warranty stickers, for the same reason that I don't purchase from Game Dude.

To anyone who is considering dealing with them: Don't complain about warranty stickers or freaked inserts if you get them; they openly post this information all over their pages...if you don't want it, don't buy it in the first place.

- Kyle

Originally posted by ORPHEUS:
<STRONG>well, i still think you are a prick,(i hardly feel that way about anyone on these forums...</STRONG>

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Originally posted by ORPHEUS:
<STRONG>.......by the way I think it is interesting how you call so many people here
(Shawn, Silent scope,NSX-T,and others) a joke just based on the fact that they buy from NGF..........</STRONG>

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WOW, WOW.....my friend. I've never bought anything from NGF. I bought KOF99 cart from someone and it has one NGF label on it. I removed it and that's it.

I'm not buying from NGF
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