15000+ USD highest bid..try to think about it

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I asked the seller to know what current offers are.

I got an email from the seller of Kizuna euro stating highest bid right now is 15000 euro,like 16000USD.

IF it is real and your bidding that much,remember that it is really rare but it is NOT even mint.
And finally,that sounds fishy,the seller could be pulling your leg.

If all is real that way,well I suppose it is not out of the line for you.
 

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LOL $16,000

Got 1 word for ya guys:

Hardcore


My ass would be flying to where he lives to pick that item up for that kind of money.
 

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LOL $16,000

Got 1 word for ya guys:

Hardcore


My ass would be flying to where he lives to pick that item up for that kind of money.
My ass would be getting EVERY OTHER GAME EVER MADE for that kind of money!
 

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I really dislike these private sales, sellers can do watever they wants with prices... shame
 

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I really dislike these private sales, sellers can do watever they wants with prices... shame
Exactly.

I wouldn't touch an auction like that with a 10 foot pole.

16k? I will buy a house, thank you.
 

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While the current level is disturbing...

you cannot get a complete collection in Japanese or English for $16,000. I was almost there, and I promise you it's going to exceed 20K either way (especially considering that KE is a real deal english cart, previously considered $5000).

A house for $16,000? Maybe the downpayment toward that house's mortgage. But then that house would probably be worth less than $80,000, which means it's going to be a rambler or maybe a shitty townhouse. Maybe, if you're lucky, a 2 bdrm condo without a view.

$16,000.

Well, DangerousK said it last night, "how long does it take their daddies to make that much money?"
 

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Wolfgang, what a lucky guy.

Unknown to him he has some old random Neo Geo game that a handful of people are willing to pay out the ass for.

That's like winning the lottery.
 

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Wolfgang, what a lucky guy.

Unknown to him he has some old random Neo Geo game that a handful of people are willing to pay out the ass for.

That's like winning the lottery.
I didn't read his whole post.. did he not know it was a valuable cart?

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Well if it is true that it goes for this much then I wonder if the buyer will confirm so as to update the price guide. That would binefit him if he tryed to sell later on right? Im not a collector so please xcuse if this is a dumb question.
 

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Mr. Wizard:
Well if it is true that it goes for this much then I wonder if the buyer will confirm so as to update the price guide. That would binefit him if he tryed to sell later on right? Im not a collector so please xcuse if this is a dumb question.
Well,I do not know if it's real,maybe not maybe yes.
If it goes for $9000 or 10000 or more or less,I do not think a price in the guide would be right move to do.
 

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Wolfgang, what a lucky guy.

Unknown to him he has some old random Neo Geo game that a handful of people are willing to pay out the ass for.

That's like winning the lottery.
I didn't read his whole post.. did he not know it was a valuable cart?

-Nick
Yeah, it was in his first post, in the "Answers Thread" he created.

i bought the Game in Powerplay Austria 1996
and i dont know that it is so rare.an Article
in the MANIAC 3/2003 told me of this rare Game
 

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Well, all the best to this Wolfgang guy. He'll get a nice little nest egg out of all this.
If these huge amounts of money being offered are true... well, I'm sorry I don't agree with it, and I do not understand the mentality behind such a purchase. I would not call it an investment because you have nothing to hedge against. I'd spend 10k on a game... IF I had at least some idea as to what it would be worth in 5 years.
A collapse in Neo prices can happen at any time - buyers will either disappear or will refuse to meet current asking prices. Neo Geo is too much of a niche product to have a long term sustainable high value demand.
As impressive as something like Shawn's collection is... one day, I don't know when, it will all be worth next to nothing.
 

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Well, all the best to this Wolfgang guy. He'll get a nice little nest egg out of all this.
If these huge amounts of money being offered are true... well, I'm sorry I don't agree with it, and I do not understand the mentality behind such a purchase. I would not call it an investment because you have nothing to hedge against. I'd spend 10k on a game... IF I had at least some idea as to what it would be worth in 5 years.
A collapse in Neo prices can happen at any time - buyers will either disappear or will refuse to meet current asking prices. Neo Geo is too much of a niche product to have a long term sustainable high value demand.
As impressive as something like Shawn's collection is... one day, I don't know when, it will all be worth next to nothing.
Spending 10k+ on a game is bordering on the line of obsession, not a hobby.
 

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I would not call it an investment because you have nothing to hedge against.
Exactly. It's not an investment. And just because I could pay 3 million for a Lamborghini VTTT doesn't mean anyone else would buy it from me for more than $300K. People are just making up prices - figures that they most likely won't see on the flip side.
 

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Well, all the best to this Wolfgang guy. He'll get a nice little nest egg out of all this.
If these huge amounts of money being offered are true... well, I'm sorry I don't agree with it, and I do not understand the mentality behind such a purchase. I would not call it an investment because you have nothing to hedge against. I'd spend 10k on a game... IF I had at least some idea as to what it would be worth in 5 years.
A collapse in Neo prices can happen at any time - buyers will either disappear or will refuse to meet current asking prices. Neo Geo is too much of a niche product to have a long term sustainable high value demand.
As impressive as something like Shawn's collection is... one day, I don't know when, it will all be worth next to nothing.
Maybe.
I was thinking that there are persons as well who spen $10000+ for VERSACE,Chanel and GUCCI items.

If you look at it NOT as an investment but as a expensive toy or collectable..
 

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FTL:

If you look at it NOT as an investment but as a expensive toy or collectable..
yes, one that they have no plans to sell.
If I buy my clothes only by Versace shops or Armani,I will end up paying more than 10000$ for FEW jackets or such items.
And I see rich buyers do it all the time.

If I buy Maruko home cart in perfect condition for $3000,well ..I will be able at least to get $100 off it in the future or maybe $5000 but compared to clothers seesm really a better situation.
Luxury items are often worth nothing to resale.
 

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rampany jealousy overcomes thou!

if it was your cart and you had so much money being offered for it you'd be laughing all the way too the bank.

and art is appreciate in many ways, who the fuck are you to define art anyway? it's amazing what classes as art nowadays.

fucking jealous little bitches, go drink some lighter fluid. it'll make you feel better.

and BTW, my car budget is about £600- £1000 tops. so by your logic, if you pay 10K for a car your a fucking daddies boy loaded with money.

and seriously, whoever wins this cart will probably take it to the grave with them. When your that seriious about owning something, it's not easy to let it go.
 

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EvilWasabi:
A house for $16,000? Maybe the downpayment toward that house's mortgage. But then that house would probably be worth less than $80,000, which means it's going to be a rambler or maybe a shitty townhouse. Maybe, if you're lucky, a 2 bdrm condo without a view.
Well, of course 16k is for downpayment. I don't know anyone who buys a house and pay for the whole thing. Hey, a house is an investment. Btw, I live in NYC, I know you can get a very very nice co-op in Queens with about 20k downpayment. So unless you live in San Francisco or something, you can get a nice place with that kind of money.

And to me, I would never pay that much for a cart, not even if I am a billionaire. Why? Because it is stupid.
 

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EvilWasabi:
FTL:

If you look at it NOT as an investment but as a expensive toy or collectable..
yes, one that they have no plans to sell.
If I buy my clothes only by Versace shops or Armani,I will end up paying more than 10000$ for FEW jackets or such items.
And I see rich buyers do it all the time.

If I buy Maruko home cart in perfect condition for $3000,well ..I will be able at least to get $100 off it in the future or maybe $5000 but compared to clothers seesm really a better situation.
Luxury items are often worth nothing to resale.
I know. I don't buy my clothes thinking that they will be profitable. wink I'm just stating that whoever buys the cart for $10 or more will probably not sell it. However, if someone buys it for $5000, of course they would.
 

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Anybody who would pay 15-16000 let alone half is a FOOL
Are you going to tell me that this game is not worth counterfeiting now??
Okay,the myth is that they were only distributed in Germany...
Here is what anyone can do WORLDWIDE...
counterfeit the game no matter what the cost..even if it costs 2000 to duplicate the documentation and then send it to a contact located in Germany to sell.
There have been tutorials of Converting here on this very board without usage of wires or noticeble modification and the materials for documentation is most certainly obtainable.They are expensive but can be gotten.Anything can be found..
I myself would need notarized documentation of authenticity from the publisher
Am I jealous?? It's not even about that...because I don't believe the English Kizuna to be authentic..With no documented PROOF of authenticity this title must be considered counterfeit until proven otherwise...Same rules that applied to the NGF KOF2K.
I am confident that this title was not recalled after only surfacing in Germany because SNKUSA was granted the opportunity to sell every title whether it was a poor seller or not..I remember the Stakes Winner 2 game not selling too well,I remember Super Sidekicks 4 not selling very well..but every game was given the opportunity to sell worldwide before any recalls.
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EvilWasabi:

Well, DangerousK said it last night, "how long does it take their daddies to make that much money?"
I thought that comment was very unfair to the buyers.

Who is one to say that the high bidder has a generous daddy or comes from wealth? It is also possible the the buyer is very hardworking and successful.

Carlson
 

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EvilWasabi:

Well, DangerousK said it last night, "how long does it take their daddies to make that much money?"
I thought that comment was very unfair to the buyers.

Who is one to say that the high bidder has a generous daddy or comes from wealth? It is also possible the the buyer is very hardworking and successful.

Carlson
I know I know.

The scene as a whole is unfair. But remember that some of these guys are the same age as you and I (BTW - happy belated birthday...). And I don't just have $7500 laying around with a complete collection.
 

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As impressive as something like Shawn's collection is... one day, I don't know when, it will all be worth next to nothing.
Probably very true, Rich. If the whole world gets engorged in a nuclear holocaust, we will probably be wishing that we used the extra money from Neo sales on the best whores and crack pipes possible :)

Sincerely,

Mikhail
 

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Maybe.
I was thinking that there are persons as well who spen $10000+ for VERSACE,Chanel and GUCCI items.

If you look at it NOT as an investment but as a expensive toy or collectable..
What do you mean, maybe???

There is no maybe. There is no grey area here.

Clothes you wear. I've spent thousands and thousands on clothes and I wear, so I get my money's worth everytime. I can count on 1 hand the number of designer items I've bought and either only worn once or have never worn at all since getting back from the shop.

Toys are for kids. You play with toys.

Collectables could be analogy... but are you seriously telling me you'd spend $10,000 on a videogame and let it sit on a shelf or in a cabinet knowing that you may never ever even get 10% of your money back?

People who spend that kind of money expect to recoup or profit on the initial spend. How can you insure an item which, technically , has no commercial value whatsoever? Any major insurer would baulk at a $10k policy on a videogame with no real commercial history.

This is why collectors ruin Neo Geo... you're all money and no brains... well, I guess a fool and his money are soon parted.
 
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