Ahead with Slug 4 crushing away sad clones !

FTL · Jun 4, 2002

Despite bad comments and stupid comparisons to sad clones,Slug 4 is a great and fun game.

I keep on playing it and it just rocks.
nadia rocks.
MUSIC is great,especially the incipit of first level,I like it a lot.

Sidecar and monkey mode are cool and it is a good chellenge as well.

All comments I read about slug 4 were from players who got to level 3 or so.

I finished the game a lot of time.

metal slug 4 is just another cool game ,don't miss it!

Orpheus · Jun 4, 2002

i'm really looking forward to going to the arcade this week and playing it. thanks for your impressions ftl.

hartley hare · Jun 4, 2002

At last someone has a good for this game

garou_d · Jun 4, 2002

10 more days and we're gonna be fixed ! wait & see.

FeelGood · Jun 4, 2002

what! I've been promoting this game too! It feels very good. I think there could have been improvements, but that's just because I'm a genius, and playmore couldn't afford me at the time.

MKL · Jun 4, 2002

Originally posted by FTL:
Despite bad comments and stupid comparisons to sad clones<hr></blockquote>

I assume you're referring to Demon Front... well, maybe it's a clone but so is Metal Slug 4 itself... 4...4...4...4... you understand?
And how can you tell DF wil be "sad" if you haven't seen it?

but of course I forget that fan is short for fanatic....

christopher belmondo · Jun 4, 2002

These Clones are realy everywhere !
even the new star wars movie..Clones !!

and a bad ones too !
(must be because they produce so many of them,low qualety !i want a view,and they are good !)

the originals where the best !

over !

m1k3 · Jun 4, 2002

im lookin forward to playin it as soon as i can.

FTL · Jun 5, 2002

Originally posted by MKL:


I assume you're referring to Demon Front... well, maybe it's a clone but so is Metal Slug 4 itself... 4...4...4...4... you understand?
And how can you tell DF wil be "sad" if you haven't seen it?

but of course I forget that fan is short for fanatic....<hr></blockquote>

Of course I have seen a beta version(almost finished) of Demon Front.

You seem to be confused about the word "clone".

Metal slug 4 is a sequel,Demon front is a sad clone.

More,Metal slug 4 is funny and is in keeping with the slug way of play and fashion AS it should be,being a SEQUEL.

Of course,none of arcade operators will pay attention to DF,Metal slug 4 is already bought in large quantities due to demand.

MKL · Jun 5, 2002

Originally posted by FTL:
Metal slug 4 is funny and is in keeping with the slug way of play and fashion AS it should be,being a SEQUEL.<hr></blockquote>

But who the heck needed yet another sequel? It just shows the people making games for this machine are at their wits' end... this is the simple truth and trying to hide it won't help...

chimpmeister · Jun 5, 2002

Originally posted by MKL:


But who the heck needed yet another sequel? It just shows the people making games for this machine are at their wits' end... this is the simple truth and trying to hide it won't help...<hr></blockquote>

I disagree. The Metal Slug games have been absolutely fantastic over the years, ALL of them. Slug X and 3 are both masterpieces, among the best arcade games ever made, period. I get sick of everyone whining about sequels; really, if the games in the series are INCREDIBLY GREAT, as these are, then they can release AS MANY SEQUELS AS THEY WANT. My Slug 4 cart is on order, and I already have Slug 2, X, and 3 (and Slug 1 as a converted cart). I'm looking forward to another Metal Slug in the series, and we should all be thankful that this one came out, so late in the life of this great system!

MKL · Jun 5, 2002

Originally posted by chimpmeister:
I'm looking forward to another Metal Slug in the series<hr></blockquote>

That would no doubt hammer the last nail in Neo's coffin...

Loopz · Jun 6, 2002

All comments I read about slug 4 were from players who got to level 3 or so. <hr></blockquote>

FTL, you're the king of conceited assumptions. I played that SHIT to the end, and that's exactly what it was, SHIT. If you want to pass off some poorly-cobbled TOTAL rehash as worthy of the real SNK you got problems man. The shittiest, worst animated bosses in the series, what is "new", like the new vehicles and guns, barely appear in the game. Slug 3 fucking destroys this game.

I know how bad everyone wants to claim that the Neo is alive and well, but if you guys are gonna let nostalgia paint these new subpar releases to look better than they are, you are DISHONORING THE REAL SNK. Face the facts. SNK IS DEAD. Worship the classics. Be more demanding of these new releases, and quit fucking pining for new homecart spines to jerk off on. <img src="graemlins/shame.gif" border="0" alt="[Shame]" />

SNKFreak · Jun 6, 2002

I completely agree. Metal Slug 3 was the pinnacle of the series. 1 was awesome, 2 and X were really great, and 3 is incredible. When I saw the screenshots of 4... I mean.. cmon, the titlescreen iteself is just the MS3 one but instead of a 3 there's a 4...It just seems like another pathetic atempt by the marketers to pump a few more years into a dead system. Look at KOF2k1...need I say more? Everyone thinks these new games are great because they are NeoGeo and current, nobody sees the truth.

TheBigBB · Jun 6, 2002

Loopz, I have read a lot of your posts, and I generally think you have good things to say, but on the subject of the new games, get the fuck out of here. You are way too damn hard on KOF 2k1 and MS4. It seems obvious that you're just hell bent on hating the new releases.

I will guarantee this: If I let any of my friends who don't own a Neo-Geo play Metal Slug 4, they'll tell me it rules. I know they will. The reason is that it's a fun arcade game with the same gameplay as the others. Of course it's going to be a lot like the other Metal Slug games... But seriously, what the hell? I mean think of Mega Man... They keep making new Mega Mans that always play just like the old ones, and people always buy them. People like playing the same game with new scenarios. There's really no need for you to get so down on these games. It's not fair to anybody.

I'm not saying you can't have an opinion, but your stance just seems to be that these new games are absolute shit and not worth wasting a second on.

Also you attack this guy cause he said that most people didn't get past level 3... Well honestly I've read all the MS4 threads and there were at least 2 people who bashed the game who said they were too bored to get past level 3. I suppose those are the same people who thought MS3 was boring. yeah it's so boring that when I bring my friends over to play it, they fucking have the time of their lives.

Stop being so jaded...

TheBigBB · Jun 6, 2002

I know how bad everyone wants to claim that the Neo is alive and well, but if you guys are gonna let nostalgia paint these new subpar releases to look better than they are, you are DISHONORING THE REAL SNK. Face the facts. SNK IS DEAD. Worship the classics. Be more demanding of these new releases, and quit fucking pining for new homecart spines to jerk off on. <hr></blockquote>

And another thing... You're basically attacking anyone who likes the new releases. You're saying that it's wrong to like these releases. And then, you act like if we don't buy the new games (because we all secretly hate them, of course, we're just lieing when we say we like them) it will send the message that we're really demanding and better games will be released.... No, actually if we don't buy them then NO games will be released.

You know, it took SNK a very long time to optimize the Neo-Geo games. Did you ever think that maybe it's really difficult to program for? Not to mention that many of the old "classics" are widely regarded as trash. Super Spy, Success Joe, games like that. I even think Sengoku sucks. Not all the old games are good. SNK isn't perfect, never was. How do you know how hard Playmore (or whoever) is trying? Maybe they're working their asses off.

There's no reason to take your assumptions about Playmore and such and use them against the new games, cause all in all it's just presumtuous nostalgic bullshit talking.

FTL · Jun 6, 2002

Originally posted by Loopz:


FTL, you're the king of conceited assumptions. I played that SHIT to the end, and that's exactly what it was, SHIT. If you want to pass off some poorly-cobbled TOTAL rehash as worthy of the real SNK you got problems man. The shittiest, worst animated bosses in the series, what is "new", like the new vehicles and guns, barely appear in the game. Slug 3 fucking destroys this game.

I know how bad everyone wants to claim that the Neo is alive and well, but if you guys are gonna let nostalgia paint these new subpar releases to look better than they are, you are DISHONORING THE REAL SNK. Face the facts. SNK IS DEAD. Worship the classics. Be more demanding of these new releases, and quit fucking pining for new homecart spines to jerk off on. <img src="graemlins/shame.gif" border="0" alt="[Shame]" /> <hr></blockquote>

Know where the truth is?
sad persons like you do NOT desrve Metal slug 4,you just can't understand it.

Some cool features:
-monkey transformations
-multiple paths system-more LONGEVITY
-Sidecar and truck stages-more FUN
-Special "impossible mission stage"-more VARIETY
-Multiple endings-more SURPRISES
-new weapons-more POWER
-new charas-MORE charm (Nadia rocks)

Your set sad man.
Go and team up with the other sad guy who worships clones like demon front.

The neo geo does not need persons like you.

Loopz · Jun 6, 2002

Your set sad man.
Go and team up with the other sad guy who worships clones like demon front.

The neo geo does not need persons like you.

<hr></blockquote>

FTL, blow it out your ass. Go on and keep convincing yourself that the new Slug is anywhere close to as good as 3. You might eventually believe it. You're a big English-cart worshipping collector knob anyway, so I don't give a fuck what you think. You're polishing brass on the Titanic by buying the shitty new games like KOF2K1 and Slug 4 anyway. Arrogant chump.

One day, when all the smoke clears and this system is allowed a proper burial, you'll be able to separate the wheat from the chaff and understand what the truly great SNK games were about. Your response to what I said was SO predictable. Keep kidding yourself about the remnants at Playmore having anywhere near the talent of the real SNK.

Dmhawkmoon, it's cool, I respect your opinion of the game. I mean, judged by itself, Slug 4 is still better than 95% of the modern crap churned out, I'll give it that. I just don't think it has the magic the others do. Anyone new to the series should still dig it. BTW, I got to see this first hand...my buddy Mark whom I stayed with in Cali cam with me to the arcade, he was a Slug virgin. We played 4, and he liked it...we then sat down and played Slug 3, and he thought it was leagues better...his words, interference free.

FTL · Jun 6, 2002

Originally posted by Loopz:


FTL, blow it out your ass. Go on and keep convincing yourself that the new Slug is anywhere close to as good as 3. You might eventually believe it. You're a big English-cart worshipping collector knob anyway, so I don't give a fuck what you think. You're polishing brass on the Titanic by buying the shitty new games like KOF2K1 and Slug 4 anyway. Arrogant chump.

.<hr></blockquote>

Wow,you have no counterpoints at all,except insults.

Ignore Slug 4 and kof 2001,it's your loss.

BTW,like me,many gamers are so convinced Metyal slug 4 is a good game that the game is making really good here in the arcades.

Of course,all arrogant chumps to quote you.

Try to counterpoint on what is said,not mixing up off topic arguments like neo geo collecting.

It only shows how much BIASED you are.

Loopz · Jun 6, 2002

OK FTL, insults aside, I'll break down your supposed features of Slug 4.

Know where the truth is?
sad persons like you do NOT desrve Metal slug 4,you just can't understand it.

Some cool features:
-monkey transformations
-multiple paths system-more LONGEVITY
-Sidecar and truck stages-more FUN
-Special "impossible mission stage"-more VARIETY
-Multiple endings-more SURPRISES
-new weapons-more POWER
-new charas-MORE charm (Nadia rocks)

<hr></blockquote>

Monkey transformations? Ok, kinda fun. Would've been a hell of a lot cooler had it been something NEW though, and not a reheated sprite from Slug 3.

Multiple paths? Was done a hell of a lot better in Slug 3, where we got actual NEW areas, instead
of rehashing the ice stage and zombie stages from Slugs X and 3. No points for something that ONCE AGAIN, was done better in a previous installment.

Sidecar and truck stages...simply a less interesting reworking of the helicopter/harrier shooting scenes seen in X and 3. Boring.

More variety...um, this is very vague. I recall every single level (except perhaps the very first ultra-sparsely drawn city stage) being a chunk of a level from an older Slug game.

Multiple endings...I'll give you this just to be sporting, since I've only played through the entire game once, so I wouldn't know.

New weapons...um, the only "new" weapon I can recall was the double machine gun, which obviously didn't take an extraordinary burst of programming genius to create. All the other "new" vehicles in the game (missile tank, forklift, armored truck) appeared, ONCE AGAIN, in OTHER SLUG GAMES.

New characters...I think this is moot, since all the characters play EXACTLY alike. This is room for this series to grow, if each character had his/her own set of weapons, kinda like Contra Hardcorps for the Genesis. But nope, same characters, different sprites...I'll take Eri and Fio over Trevor and Nadia anyday.

I'd also like to talk about the bosses, which are absolutely indefensible. From the lame "blimp underbelly" of stage one, to the Giant Tuna Can Section boss of stage two, to the really wack-looking robo-clown head...these are truly uninspired designs. These really pale when compared to the massive Morden tank in X, or the cool monolith-spewing Alien egg in 3.

You want real analysis, you got it FTL. Now warm up that English dictionary and quit writing shit that sounds like it was spoken by Hanz and Franz.

FTL · Jun 6, 2002

Originally posted by Loopz:
OK FTL, insults aside, I'll break down your supposed features of Slug 4.

Monkey transformations? Ok, kinda fun. Would've been a hell of a lot cooler had it been something NEW though, and not a reheated sprite from Slug 3.

Multiple paths? Was done a hell of a lot better in Slug 3, where we got actual NEW areas, instead
of rehashing the ice stage and zombie stages from Slugs X and 3. No points for something that ONCE AGAIN, was done better in a previous installment.

Sidecar and truck stages...simply a less interesting reworking of the helicopter/harrier shooting scenes seen in X and 3. Boring.

More variety...um, this is very vague. I recall every single level (except perhaps the very first ultra-sparsely drawn city stage) being a chunk of a level from an older Slug game.

Multiple endings...I'll give you this just to be sporting, since I've only played through the entire game once, so I wouldn't know.

New weapons...um, the only "new" weapon I can recall was the double machine gun, which obviously didn't take an extraordinary burst of programming genius to create. All the other "new" vehicles in the game (missile tank, forklift, armored truck) appeared, ONCE AGAIN, in OTHER SLUG GAMES.

New characters...I think this is moot, since all the characters play EXACTLY alike. This is room for this series to grow, if each character had his/her own set of weapons, kinda like Contra Hardcorps for the Genesis. But nope, same characters, different sprites...I'll take Eri and Fio over Trevor and Nadia anyday.

I'd also like to talk about the bosses, which are absolutely indefensible. From the lame "blimp underbelly" of stage one, to the Giant Tuna Can Section boss of stage two, to the really wack-looking robo-clown head...these are truly uninspired designs. These really pale when compared to the massive Morden tank in X, or the cool monolith-spewing Alien egg in 3.

You want real analysis, you got it FTL. Now warm up that English dictionary and quit writing shit that sounds like it was spoken by Hanz and Franz.<hr></blockquote>

You made really a good improvement ,managing to explain your views without insults.

Again,your depreciating all the cool features of Slug 4 due to your biased attitude.

If you try to play the game and do it MANY times like I did,you will see the game is really funny,delivering to you:
action
variety
challenge

Add the new system of medals and ranking as well.

Neo geo lives on thanks to Metal slug 4,you ADMIT that your friend had fun playing it.

So,if EXPERTS like you are so negative towards the neo geo,well,I'm all for the newbies,I'm a super newbies.

YOU FORGOT the real point: the ability to be amazed and appreciate new funny games.

Play it without all your mental intricacies,and a smile will appear on your face.

Sorry for my typos,I write quickly and got a lot of things to do in the same time .

[ June 06, 2002: Message edited by: FTL ]

Shito · Jun 6, 2002

God, it's really funny to see how someone can say 2001 is shit cause it's not from the 'original SNK', when KOF2001 is SO WAY better than the jerking KOF2000, which was from 'true' SNK indeed.

Who's talking about fanatism now, I ask.

I've played Slug4 in the arcade and I think it's a pretty good and enjoyable game.

It does not make me scream to miracle, but it's damn good in my opinion.

I think Slug4 playability it's more 'old style' biased, someway more 'straight' and less 'chaotix' and messy than Slug3.

Slug3 it's a graphical orgy indeed, and really really outgrushing with effects and all.

Slug4 it's a little bit similar to Slug1 maybe in playbilty, and I like it also cause of this.

After all, if we already have Slug3, why to produce again just the same game?

[ June 06, 2002: Message edited by: Shito ]

waku7 · Jun 6, 2002

"After all, if we already have Slug3, why to produce again just the same game?"
like X.
to win money...

NEO GEO IS JUST A BUSINESS NOW

no use to be a newbie, or an expert of the neo geo to see that new games are just to spend 300/400 USD in the window.

Metal slug is not Metal slug since the 3.
the first was amazing.
the new episod are just Cool games.
Not METAL SLUG, Fucking great game.
The x is good too.

But 3/4 are just good.
and it's not enough for me to spend 400 USD.

A metal slug with OVNI,Monky transformations,little guys from x-files is just shit.

christopher belmondo · Jun 6, 2002

Originally posted by waku7:
"After all, if we already have Slug3, why to produce again just the same game?"
like X.
to win money...

NEO GEO IS JUST A BUSINESS NOW

no use to be a newbie, or an expert of the neo geo to see that new games are just to spend 300/400 USD in the window.

Metal slug is not Metal slug since the 3.
the first was amazing.
the new episod are just Cool games.
Not METAL SLUG, Fucking great game.
The x is good too.

But 3/4 are just good.
and it's not enough for me to spend 400 USD.

A metal slug with OVNI,Monky transformations,little guys from x-files is just shit.<hr></blockquote>

just a ghost !!

somebody call the ghostbusters !
look like,but the spirit is is another one !

sad but true ,but slug died as the soul has left !

accept that fact !

i love slug !

garou_d · Jun 6, 2002

I did not played slug 4 yet.

I've read many negative posts about it.

for the people who played slug 4: if you were the game designer, what would you do to make slug 4 better than 3 ? any ideas ???

Ahead with Slug 4 crushing away sad clones !

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