Neo-Geo popularity, yesterday & today -

I got a topic here...

Before I found and registered to this site back May 2002 Neo-Geo was my little gem of a system that very few people had, and that the only way to get games was through Ebay or jeeze Fleakin Game Dude(They don't have shit for stock, I called them recently, they only have the most common carts). I had no idea that until I found this site Neo-Geo is alive and strong. I was elated beyond compare that my most prized game system had not only a fan base, but an E-store and a culture its very own.

With Playmore, elevated cart prices due to popularity and low quantities, many people taking the time to convert carts(and sadly, a few people selling ROMS and Emulator CD's), all this gives me an idea, however naive that Neo-Geo has risen in a level of popularity that it has not seen ever before. But has it?

And I don't have permission to create a poll so ...

1.)What is the most popular option, AES, MVS, or ports?

2.) In your opinion is Neo-Geo AES more popular than ever? Has popularity in Neo-Geo plateaued, or are we somewhere in the middle? If we are at a plateau, any predictions as to how long it will last? If we are in the middle, same question.

My answer to the questions would be:
1.)Ports most popuar, then AES, than MVS.
2.)I feel that Neo-Geo is possibly riding a high plateau among the diehards but on average, it could be a relic amongst the 3-D crowds. I feel that interest amongst diehards will last until Playmore drops the ball and continues to release lesser quality softs than SNK after a certain period of time.

I'd be curious of how others here feel about this topic and if they have any other questions to add to it.

ports is without a doubt the most popular format.

simply because its dirt cheap, and usually released for many different systems. new gamers could easily afford it, as well as ex-Neo owners (just like me).

1) Ports are certainly the most popular. First most of the recent ports are of excellent quality, there extremely inexpensive compared to the Neo cart versions. Also availability. There just aren't enough Neo systems to go around, and never will be. Ports have always been the most popular option even in the early 90s.

2) I think the Neo's popularity spiked in about 1993. At that time the Neo was the cadilac of videogame hardware. And host to many good fighting games. That was also the time period when fighting games where most popular. Today fighting games 2D and 3D have a fairly minor audience.

The reason I bought a Neo Geo was because I always wanted one in the early 90's but couldn't afford to spend $600 on a system. Today I can afford the system, but I cant afford the games. lol The only new Neo games ill probably ever buy would be KoF2003 or SVC Chaos.

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I think a lot Neo's popularity today is people wanting to cash in on it. Back then it was just people wanting to play the games. Nowadays, you'll be hard pressed to just find that, even if the person has shelves of every cart produced sealed in plastic baggies.

SonGohan:
I think a lot Neo's popularity today is people wanting to cash in on it. Back then it was just people wanting to play the games. Nowadays, you'll be hard pressed to just find that, even if the person has shelves of every cart produced sealed in plastic baggies.

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have to disagree slightly Wes

recently with alot of publicity the neo has been growing in strength but prices have been steadily on the most part - even some getting smaller (wish i had paid just over 300usd for my garou)

certain prices have been steadily falling (garou - Jp) and other aspects have been getting better

right now is a bad time to buy into the pocket as its so popular, the neo cd is gaining strength and the aes/mvs side of things are still strong

Type neo geo into a global search within ebay and you will find over 1200 hits, normally you would be lucky to find 700+, i know this doesnt determine how popular the neo is but most of the items are selling - which is a good thing

in the uk right now its slightly different, thanks to articles in edge about the neo and the pocket - to me thats the reason why the pocket skyrocketed in price

with a couple of new releases this year (4-5) things couldnt look so peachy and with major development of teh next gen systems by Playmore - hopefully this may attract others

I'm talking about as a whole. Back then you could buy any game for their release price or lower. Nothing was jacked up all crazy as it is today.

SonGohan:
I think a lot Neo's popularity today is people wanting to cash in on it. Back then it was just people wanting to play the games. Nowadays, you'll be hard pressed to just find that, even if the person has shelves of every cart produced sealed in plastic baggies.

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That's EXACTLY the case. I'm currently in a very heated debate over that now with particular members on this list. Back in the day, the Neo Geo's popularity was solely based on its games and how fun they were to play. You may have not been able to own an actual system, but you were able to play them at any local arcade or purchase ports, US or Japanese.

These days, it's all about the benjamins. A new breed of "gamer" has entered into the area, who claim that they're in it for the games when in reality they're into it just to cash in.

People who place obscene value into the games just because they're supposed to be "hard to find". To the average gamer, ANY Neo Geo item is hard to find. Some are easier to find than others, but if it wasn't for the internet and a few e-mail lists NOBODY would have this stuff anymore.

People who expect way too much from others in a community... expecting to shell out their exuberent sums of cash for a USED GAME that has been in circulation for years and get upset because the game shows some regular wear & tear. As if people purchase video games just to put on a shelf and stare at them... as if people are NOT ALLOWED to open and read the manual... as if people don't have the right to play their games consistently for it will start to affect its imaginary and inflated "market value".

I can understand why people have left this community and I can TOTALLY understand why people on the outside look at us and think we're a bunch of fools. We're already shelling out nearly $300 for a brand new game on release, and still shelling out anywhere from $50-$200 for any decent used game. And thanks to the bullshit known as a "hardcore collector", some of these USED TITLES are going for nearly quadruple their original price, just because THEY haven't seen one "on the market" in a long time. Who gave them the jurisdiction to make these rules? Who said that their pseudo-elitist opinions are the ones to go by?

I have been an owner of the Neo Geo for nearly 9 years, and I'm psyched about the prospect of being able to play more games, old and new. But as a whole, I'm VERY disappointed at some of the motives, finger pointing and overall attitudes of people who just expect WAY TOO MUCH from the Neo Geo and its community. If the "fun" has disappeared from the Neo Geo and its games, it CERTAINLY isn't SNK or Playmore's fault. It's the over-crazed fanbase that is trying so desperately to add some value to their shallow lives by adding unnecessary value to an item that is only intended to bring entertainment, not stature.

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As far as I'm concerned, VinylBoy really hit the nail on the head... especially that last paragraph. There was only one thing, though:

People who expect way too much from others in a community... expecting to shell out their exuberent sums of cash for a USED GAME that has been in circulation for years and get upset because the game shows some regular wear & tear. As if people purchase video games just to put on a shelf and stare at them... as if people are NOT ALLOWED to open and read the manual... as if people don't have the right to play their games consistently for it will start to affect its imaginary and inflated "market value".

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You can't really blame them, can you? I mean, they order a virgin in the mail and wind up with a prostitute.

Brad:
You can't really blame them, can you? I mean, they order a virgin in the mail and wind up with a prostitute.

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LOL!!! lol
Nice analogy, dude...

I just wish people would actually be into the Neo Geo for the games again. We are all gamers and collectors to some degree. I still own every single game system I have bought or received as a gift, and they all still work properly. So, I understand about being a collector. But I don't let my quest for the "holy grail" get in the way of the fact that I just want the games. New, old, used, wear & tear, whatever... just as long as the game works I'm fine with it. The manual doesn't have to be as clean as a newly press Mormom Bible, nor does the insert have to be as spotless as a t-shirt washed with Oxy-Clean... nor does the cart have to be as shiny as a brand new Rolex.

Just boot up and don't freeze... that's the most important thing. Guess this makes me easy to please, huh?

<small>[ March 30, 2003, 04:38 PM: Message edited by: VinylBoy ]</small>

I've been with the neo since its birth and finnaly got one in 98. Since that time I've watched it rise in "popularity". Sadly though, like anything else, I feel like that internet is to blame for this over run of people who want to cash in on rare stuff. I like Ebay as much as the next guy and it is a great source to locate hard to find merchandise...at a WAY OVER BLOWN price. I've seen morons put up FF1 and tag it as a rare item. I digress. I'm with all of you in saying that the Neo's popularity is due to the over run of people who want to cash in on "rare stuff" (one of the reasons you cant find things like this at a flea market anymore). If there is a buck to be made, then somebody will make it. If there is a market for it, somebody will market it. If there is a want for it, somebody will sell it at a jacked up price because they know some shmuck will pay for it. Its the way of buisness and life.

Me...I'll just enjoy my Neo and my games. Although I have a pretty small collection of home carts comparitivly (only 7), its the quality of the games I own that make me love the neo and want to keep and play every last game I own.

It's really kinda creepy to think that there are people on these boards who only buy and sell Neo games for profit - they don't actually play any Neo games at all, nor ever have.

Maybe I'm naive, but is this really the case? frown

I think that it's rather inevitable for a system such as the NEO-Geo NOT to be considered rare and thus worth a bucket full of cash. I am here for the same reason as a lot of you. When I was in heaven with my newly bought Super Nes, there was always this really classy girl looking at me. I knew I couldn't afford her at the time, but as we both grew older, possibilities opened up. So now I am here, bought myself an AES and about 11 games just for the heck of it. I now OWN the games I used to play in the arcades! I don't care about rare items or not, I just want to get the cool games and unfortunately, these are also mostly seen as RARE. And suppose if one day I were to fall out of love with my NEO, for whatever reason, wouldn't it be great to know that she DOESN'T COME CHEAP? I agree that people who are ONLY in here for the money need to shove a boomstick up their arses and get to grips with their pathetic lives (Get a decent job maybe?). But to those who are here out of sympathy for a games system that was always seen as the Ferrari amongst consoles, I salute you with the respect you deserve. buttrock

I may be a collector but I play the games I collect.
I buy the Neo Geo games to play them,and they become a part of my collection because I never sell anything.
Sure I want to own all the different MVS cart games...But I want to play them.
AES too,but I won't pay $3000.00 for a Metal Slug cart..I'll play it on MVS.

I'll buy the same games I have on MVS for AES just to be able to play them on the AES system,on a TV....but not the Crazy expensive ones..
I love playing Super Baseball 2020 on the cab so I bought it for my AES system too.

I like playing the Neo Geo games.MVS/AES/NGPC.

Curious..Say you have a line of the rarest Neo Geo AES carts..You don't play them but paid an arm full for them.
The Value goes way down for some reason,say to $5.00 a cart..Hey any things possible in this world.
What do you have now..?Games you paid so much for games worth $5 now,..and you never even play/ed them.

Fk that I'm into gaming to play the games..
I just buy a lot of games,and after 20 years they have piled up a bit.

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I think that the neo popularity has slight risen since the mid 90's, when it was at this worst level (speak about the AES and speak about the france coverage, perhaps that US was different) but popularity is not the main point for me. When you see that we have still great games like the future SvC chaos, I don't mind if there are few gamers who play neo. Ports help a lot by giving cash for quite zero investments (especially when you see that they release KOF 97 and KOF 98 for the second time).
You just have to watch some car brands to see that sales number doesn't mean success. For example, morgan still produces the +8 with ancestral techniques but you have to wait 5 years to have one. There are still fans for this kind of oldschool roadsters. That's the same thing with the neo.
It takes a long time but players discover that good doesn't means technology

VinylBoy:

SonGohan:
I think a lot Neo's popularity today is people wanting to cash in on it. Back then it was just people wanting to play the games. Nowadays, you'll be hard pressed to just find that, even if the person has shelves of every cart produced sealed in plastic baggies.

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That's EXACTLY the case. I'm currently in a very heated debate over that now with particular members on this list. Back in the day, the Neo Geo's popularity was solely based on its games and how fun they were to play. You may have not been able to own an actual system, but you were able to play them at any local arcade or purchase ports, US or Japanese.

These days, it's all about the benjamins. A new breed of "gamer" has entered into the area, who claim that they're in it for the games when in reality they're into it just to cash in.

People who place obscene value into the games just because they're supposed to be "hard to find". To the average gamer, ANY Neo Geo item is hard to find. Some are easier to find than others, but if it wasn't for the internet and a few e-mail lists NOBODY would have this stuff anymore.

People who expect way too much from others in a community... expecting to shell out their exuberent sums of cash for a USED GAME that has been in circulation for years and get upset because the game shows some regular wear & tear. As if people purchase video games just to put on a shelf and stare at them... as if people are NOT ALLOWED to open and read the manual... as if people don't have the right to play their games consistently for it will start to affect its imaginary and inflated "market value".

I can understand why people have left this community and I can TOTALLY understand why people on the outside look at us and think we're a bunch of fools. We're already shelling out nearly $300 for a brand new game on release, and still shelling out anywhere from $50-$200 for any decent used game. And thanks to the bullshit known as a "hardcore collector", some of these USED TITLES are going for nearly quadruple their original price, just because THEY haven't seen one "on the market" in a long time. Who gave them the jurisdiction to make these rules? Who said that their pseudo-elitist opinions are the ones to go by?

I have been an owner of the Neo Geo for nearly 9 years, and I'm psyched about the prospect of being able to play more games, old and new. But as a whole, I'm VERY disappointed at some of the motives, finger pointing and overall attitudes of people who just expect WAY TOO MUCH from the Neo Geo and its community. If the "fun" has disappeared from the Neo Geo and its games, it CERTAINLY isn't SNK or Playmore's fault. It's the over-crazed fanbase that is trying so desperately to add some value to their shallow lives by adding unnecessary value to an item that is only intended to bring entertainment, not stature.

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INCOHERENT.

That's what you are.
Your a gamer and in only to play and dislike collector's prices?
Then you should have sold your Kizuna or your WHP as used games,like $200 or so,less than what you paid for them IF you get them brand new.
Or maybe same price you paid,but not more.

Since you sold your games for more than merely "used games",you sold them as COLLECTABLE ITEMS.
Now,it's your fault if you either ignore or do not understand real market price.

And yes,home carts are collectible item if this is news for you.

I suspect that some gamers got into the Neo for the same reasons as myself.
Years ago, when I was young, the Neo AES was something way out of my reach due to its high price range and limited availability. So I had to make do with ports or (dare I say it) ROM's.
As I grew older and got a job and a regular income I was able to afford one, and finally plunked down the cash back in early 2001.

So, I guess that the Neo may find some increase in popularity as gamers like me, who got into games arround the time of the Neo's popularity and arcade dominance, but were never ritch enough to actually buy one, grow up and start earning enough to afford the thing that their childhood heart desired.

Yea, us men never grow up.

FTL
INCOHERENT.

That's what you are.
Your a gamer and in only to play and dislike collector's prices?
Then you should have sold your Kizuna or your WHP as used games,like $200 or so,less than what you paid for them IF you get them brand new.
Or maybe same price you paid,but not more.

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You KNOW, you could have kept your particular comments in the "war room" where it was before, FTL. And trust me, I know EXACTLY what I'm doing.

When I post a game up for sale, I tell EVERYONE to make a deal. I go into the deal knowing that there is an ideal price in my mind (whether it be just cash or in most instances a partial trade/cash deal) that I look for. I don't intentionally look for someone to turn in their first born child for a game. But, if a deal that surpasses my original idea is OFFERED then I'm sure as hell going to take it. Anyone would do it... and in the case of some games like Kizuna Encounter, Garou and World Heroes Perfect, that's EXACTLY what happened. Other cases, like when I sold a US Voltage Fighter Gowcaiser on these forums, I traded it for a used Japanese RB2 and $50 for I really like the Real Bout series. I could have been like you and WAITED for someone to offer me $500+, but that wasn't my intention. In fact, someone DID try to offer me over $400 for it but I really wanted the RB2. I do what I think is BEST FOR ME... not for your imaginary "collector's market". For you to expect me to turn down certain deals for "morale" issues or just because I'm a gamer is ridiculous. ESPECIALLY since you're the type of seller that PURPOSELY tries to get the most for their games, and would wait till someone got a huge sum of money for a title before you'd put yours on the market. Lord knows YOU didn't pay $500-$2000 for the games you own... so why are you INTENTIONALLY seeking to get these types of prices? Don't preach this whole "moarlity" thing. Unlike WHP, you're far from 'perfect'.

Since you sold your games for more than merely "used games",you sold them as COLLECTABLE ITEMS. Now,it's your fault if you either ignore or do not understand real market price.

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NO... I sold the games PERIOD. An offer was made, and I accepted it. I don't seperate the "gamer" and "collectors" markets for its downright BS. There is NOT a set market price for any of these games. People like you do that just to add some additional incoherent value to your precious collection just so that YOU can look important. If SNK/Playmore was to re-release some of these so-called "collectors items", they would release them at their typical retail price. THEY set the standards, not some rabid fan trying to look important or make a buck.

And yes,home carts are collectible item if this is news for you.

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Whatever, son... ALL GAMES for the Neo Geo are collectable for you can't walk into 90% of gaming stores in the world and find them. REGARDLESS if they're on home cart, MVS or CD. Again, you're trying to make it as if your collection is greater than mine... comparing its size and girth like a paranoid high school jock in a locker room with his peers holding a ruler in a public shower. The fact is, I don't give a damn about your collection, its size or how pretty & expensive YOU think it is. When it gets down to it, the only thing that matters is who's having the most fun. Everything else is IRRELEVANT.

And to be BRUTALLY HONEST... you're only getting into a bitch fest with me because I didn't sell you a particular game that you were foaming at the mouth to get. You make fun of me and insult me because I accidently didn't respond to your offer, and claim that you would have spent nearly $400+ for the US World Heroes Perfect, when I sold it for cheaper. It sounds as if you're just being a bitter little bitch, just because the poor ol' "hardcore collector" missed out on a game that he's been having "wet dreams" about for years. Although I tried very nicely to apologize for missing out on your deal, you are CONSTANTLY bringing the drama. And for that, I say to you, "SO FUCKIN' WHAT". Grow the fuck up! angry

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VinylBoy:
When it gets down to it, the only thing that matters is who's having the most fun. Everything else is IRRELEVANT.

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For the post part I agree with your posts, and I especially like the part above with one exception. The having fun part shouldn't be a contest either.

VinylBoy:

FTL
INCOHERENT.

That's what you are.
Your a gamer and in only to play and dislike collector's prices?
Then you should have sold your Kizuna or your WHP as used games,like $200 or so,less than what you paid for them IF you get them brand new.
Or maybe same price you paid,but not more.

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You KNOW, you could have kept your particular comments in the "war room" where it was before, FTL. And trust me, I know EXACTLY what I'm doing.

When I post a game up for sale, I tell EVERYONE to make a deal. I go into the deal knowing that there is an ideal price in my mind (whether it be just cash or in most instances a partial trade/cash deal) that I look for. I don't intentionally look for someone to turn in their first born child for a game. But, if a deal that surpasses my original idea is OFFERED then I'm sure as hell going to take it. Anyone would do it... and in the case of some games like Kizuna Encounter, Garou and World Heroes Perfect, that's EXACTLY what happened. Other cases, like when I sold a US Voltage Fighter Gowcaiser on these forums, I traded it for a Japanese RB2 and $50. I do what I think is BEST FOR ME... not for your imaginary "collector's market". For you to expect me to turn down certain deals for "morale" issues or just because I'm a gamer is ridiculous. ESPECIALLY since you're the type of seller that PURPOSELY tries to get the most for their games, and would wait till someone got a huge sum of money for a title before you'd put yours on the market. Lord knows YOU didn't pay $500-$2000 for the games you own... so why are you INTENTIONALLY seeking to get these types of prices? Don't preach this whole "moarlity" thing. Unlike WHP, you're far from 'perfect'.

Since you sold your games for more than merely "used games",you sold them as COLLECTABLE ITEMS. Now,it's your fault if you either ignore or do not understand real market price.

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NO... I sold the games PERIOD. An offer was made, and I accepted it. I don't seperate the "gamer" and "collectors" markets for its downright BS. There is NOT a set market price for any of these games. People like you do that just to add some additional incoherent value to your precious collection just so that YOU can look important. If SNK/Playmore was to re-release some of these so-called "collectors items", they would release them at their typical retail price. THEY set the standards, not some rabid fan trying to look important or make a buck.

And yes,home carts are collectible item if this is news for you.

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Whatever, son... ALL GAMES for the Neo Geo are collectable for you can't walk into 90% of gaming stores in the world and find them. REGARDLESS if they're on home cart, MVS or CD. Again, you're trying to make it as if your collection is greater than mine... comparing its size and girth like a paranoid high school jock in a locker room with his peers holding a ruler in a public shower. The fact is, I don't give a damn about your collection, its size or how pretty & expensive YOU think it is. When it gets down to it, the only thing that matters is who's having the most fun. Everything else is IRRELEVANT.

And to be BRUTALLY HONEST... you're only getting into a bitch fest with me because I didn't sell you a particular game that you were foaming at the mouth to get. You make fun of me and insult me because I accidently didn't respond to your offer, and claim that you would have spent nearly $400+ for the US World Heroes Perfect, when I sold it for cheaper. It sounds as if you're just being a bitter little bitch, just because the poor ol' "hardcore collector" missed out on a game that he's been having "wet dreams" about for years. Although I tried very nicely to apologize for missing out on your deal, you are CONSTANTLY pushing the issue. And for that, I say to you, "SO FUCKIN' WHAT". angry

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See what your problem is?
You are mixing personal things you do not know with simple facts.
I do not care at all about you to know how much home carts or MVS I have,nor I care about being a great collector.

You sold your carts like Kizuna at current market price and so,YOU as others,just follow the collector's market you hate so much.

Plus,your reasoning about replicas is totally wrong.
Mattel made replics of original masters of the universe,only difference being a little writing "replica" on the top of the card.
The same would be with Neo geo if playmore would rerelease some titles.

No,MVS loose carts are not collector's items since you can find them in very good supply.

The funny side of your deal is that you got someone complaining for WHP US home cart condition.
It is damn hard to fidn and a real collector would have only say"thank you".

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I will say further that your telling plain lies about me.
All times I try to be helpful with neo geo fans and YES,I always try to meet the best price on the market if not better.

Again Vinylboy,your illations here are nothing but wrong.
My post can stay here with no problem as far as I avoid using cuss words like you did.

FTL:
See what your problem is?
You are mixing personal things you do not know with simple facts.
I do not care at all about you to know how much home carts or MVS I have,nor I care about being a great collector.

You sold your carts at sold some like Kizuna for current market price and so,YOU as others,just follow the collector's market you hate so much.

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Stop with the bullshit, FTL, for you will not win in this case. I only sold Kizuna for the price I did because it was OFFERED to me. If it was offered to ANYONE, they would have took it. I wasn't goin by no set price guide or some imaginary "collector's market price". I don't quiz people and find out if they're a gamer or collector before I sell items (which I think I may just start doing just so I can know who to put on my ignore list). I was NOT intentially seeking to cash in on this game... I would have traded it for another game or so like I have done MANY times in the past, like with my US Garou and US Gowcaiser. To say that I'm not "eligible" to get these prices since I'm not a "collector" just like you is bullshit. You're no better than anyone else around here, FTL, and you need to take your damn tiara off your head.

Plus,your reasoning about replicas is totally wrong.
Mattel made replics of original masters of the universe,only difference being a little writing "replica" on the top of the card.
The same would be with Neo geo if playmore would rerelease some titles.

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You don't get it... DON'T you.
Playmore sets the standards AND the prices for the games they release, NOT YOU OR ANY SUPPOSED HARDCORE COLLECTOR. That's why any price you "claim" is irrelevant, unreasonable and WRONG. You've let a hobby that is supposed to bring you entertainment get destroyed for your pursuit to look important and make money. If Playmore re-released Metal Slug right now for the AE$, there would be NO MARKET for the original anymore for people would run to get that one at a much more reasonable price. You know it... I know it... EVERYONE knows it.

No,MVS loose carts not collector's item since you can find them in very good supply.

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If you can't walk into a regular store and purchase it, then it IS a collector's item. 95% of any items for the Neo Geo have to be bought after doing some level of research online or from other owners. Some items are harder to find than others, but I can't walk into New York right now and go find a Breaker's Revenge, Panic Bomberman, Ninja Masters, Garou or Gowcaiser MVS at any of the new or used gaming store (just to name a few).

Your actions speak louder than your useless ASCII, son. Here you go again trying to add more value to something that is only intended to bring entertainment and joy. You need to seek therapy.

[B[The funny side of your deal is that you got someone complaining for WHP US home cart condition.
It is damn hard to fidn and a real collector would have only say"thank you". [/B]

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And actually, the guy DID say thank you. I vented a little about it, which I have every right to do so. He wasn't happy about the damaged manual, but he at least commended me for trying to resolve the issue very quickly. Again, YOU'RE only in my face because YOU didn't get it. Just like you don't get what I'm trying to say. Wake up, will ya???!? oh_no

VinylBoy:

FTL:
See what your problem is?
You are mixing personal things you do not know with simple facts.
I do not care at all about you to know how much home carts or MVS I have,nor I care about being a great collector.

You sold your carts at sold some like Kizuna for current market price and so,YOU as others,just follow the collector's market you hate so much.

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Stop with the bullshit, FTL, for you will not win in this case. I only sold Kizuna for the price I did because it was OFFERED to me. If it was offered to ANYONE, they would have took it. I wasn't goin by no set price guide or some imaginary "collector's market price". I don't quiz people and find out if they're a gamer or collector before I sell items (which I think I may just start doing just so I can know who to put on my ignore list). I was NOT intentially seeking to cash in on this game... I would have traded it for another game or so like I have done MANY times in the past, like with my US Garou and US Gowcaiser. To say that I'm not "eligible" to get these prices since I'm not a "collector" just like you is bullshit. You're no better than anyone else around here, FTL, and you need to take your damn tiara off your head.

Plus,your reasoning about replicas is totally wrong.
Mattel made replics of original masters of the universe,only difference being a little writing "replica" on the top of the card.
The same would be with Neo geo if playmore would rerelease some titles.

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You don't get it... DON'T you.
Playmore sets the standards AND the prices for the games they release, NOT YOU OR ANY SUPPOSED HARDCORE COLLECTOR. That's why any price you "claim" is irrelevant, unreasonable and WRONG. You've let a hobby that is supposed to bring you entertainment get destroyed for your pursuit to look important and make money. If Playmore re-released Metal Slug right now for the AE$, there would be NO MARKET for the original anymore for people would run to get that one at a much more reasonable price. You know it... I know it... EVERYONE knows it.

No,MVS loose carts not collector's item since you can find them in very good supply.

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If you can't walk into a regular store and purchase it, then it IS a collector's item. 95% of any items for the Neo Geo have to be bought after doing some level of research online or from other owners. Some items are harder to find than others, but I can't walk into New York right now and go find a Breaker's Revenge, Panic Bomberman, Ninja Masters, Garou or Gowcaiser MVS at any of the new or used gaming store (just to name a few).

Your actions speak louder than your useless ASCII, son. Here you go again trying to add more value to something that is only intended to bring entertainment and joy. You need to seek therapy.

[B[The funny side of your deal is that you got someone complaining for WHP US home cart condition.
It is damn hard to fidn and a real collector would have only say"thank you". [/B]

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And actually, the guy DID say thank you. I vented a little about it, which I have every right to do so. He wasn't happy about the damaged manual, but he at least commended me for trying to resolve the issue very quickly. Again, YOU'RE only in my face because YOU didn't get it. Just like you don't get what I'm trying to say. Wake up, will ya???!? oh_no

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I will say it last time.
I do NOT care about YOU or your WHP US home cart.
It is just your weird logic which deserves to be addressed.
The price guide only backs current market's prices up and that's it.
YOU sold Kizuna at collector's price,NOT involving you wanted it but just as a fact.
It is nOT my choice or whateve is SUPPLY and DEMAND law as Mikahil explaied to you.

Your taking all personal like a child and that's your fault.
WHP US is worth even more than $400,and that0s just a fact.(take a look at yuckydog'srecent topic,he listed WHP US at $400).

More,if playmore would be to release Metal slug 1 US ,it would have some differences for sure from the original and collectors would pay even more to have original items.

Open your eyesmthe market is larger than you.

FTL:
I will say further that your telling plain lies about me.
All times I try to be helpful with neo geo fans and YES,I always try to meet the best price on the market if not better.

Again Vinylboy,your illations here are nothing but wrong.
My post can stay here with no problem as far as I avoid using cuss words like you did.

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LIES??? ROTFLMAO!
You must also have amnesia. FTL, do you EVER recall saying this on a particular thread in a certain Neo Geo War Room?

I offered you MVS kits or cash for your WHP US and you did not EVEN bother to reply to my offer(and note that you did mention about wanting MVS kits in your original post).
So,be happy with what you got.

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And after my apology, how about this little quote:

Now,you failed to grasp its real value and do not even give me or someone else a chance to finalize our offer.
So,you just deserve what you got,"kid":
someone who got a raer game cheap,got some money back and yelled at you for the condition.

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Or this little tidbit of zealous bitterness:

Now,look as a "kid" show you how you acted like a total newbie.
World heroes perfect US home cart is VERY rare and worth $400,even in near mint condition or used condition since it is really hard to come by

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And as a "special bonus", here's THIS winner of a bitter comment!

You just DESERVE to be kicked by some buyers due to your carts'faults since you chose those buyers.
Like me,there are some collectors who would say:"thanks I'm super happy to have the WHP US home cart and do NOT care at all about the flaws in the manual".
Think of what you write and avoid cuss words.
You are the kid here,not me.

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And trust me, folks, there's SO MUCH MORE. You can find it all <a href="http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=7;t=006813;p=1" target="_blank">by clicking here</a>. We'll let other people with normal minds decide your fate, FTL. We'll let them read through your number of posts and let THEM be the judge about your overall attitude.

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VinylBoy:

FTL:
I will say further that your telling plain lies about me.
All times I try to be helpful with neo geo fans and YES,I always try to meet the best price on the market if not better.

Again Vinylboy,your illations here are nothing but wrong.
My post can stay here with no problem as far as I avoid using cuss words like you did.

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LIES??? ROTFLMAO!
You must also have amnesia. FTL, do you EVER recall saying this on a particular thread in a certain Neo Geo War Room?

I offered you MVS kits or cash for your WHP US and you did not EVEN bother to reply to my offer(and note that you did mention about wanting MVS kits in your original post).
So,be happy with what you got.

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And after my apology, how about this little quote:

Now,you failed to grasp its real value and do not even give me or someone else a chance to finalize our offer.
So,you just deserve what you got,"kid":
someone who got a raer game cheap,got some money back and yelled at you for the condition.

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Or this little tidbit of zealous bitterness:

You just DESERVE to be kicked by some buyers due to your carts'faults since you chose those buyers.
Like me,there are some collectors who would say:"thanks I'm super happy to have the WHP US home cart and do NOT care at all about the flaws in the manual".
Think of what you write and avoid cuss words.
You are the kid here,not me.

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And trust me, folks, there's SO MUCH MORE. You can find it all at <a href="http://www.neo-geo.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=18&t=008064#000016" target="_blank">by clicking here</a>. We'll let other people with sane minds decide your fate, FTL.

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I never used cuss words.
I used "kid" since YOU used it towards me.

I 'm bitter since you do not even took the time to reply at my offer and that is really being rude.
When I saw you complaining at was just funny.

Try to show me where I used cuss words and worse made illations about you and your collection like YOU did.

FTL:
I never used cuss words.
I used "kid" since YOU used it towards me.

I 'm bitter since you do not even took the time to reply at my offer and that is really being rude.
When I saw you complaining at was just funny.

Try to show me where I used cuss words and worse made illations about you and your collection like YOU did.

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"Will Smith doesn't have to use swears to sell records. Well I DO, so fuck him and fuck you too!"

That's not the point... you said I lied about you not being bitter about not selling you the game. And I proved that wrong in less than 30 minutes. Don't judge me because I may use language that you don't like. Again, I was trying to be civil. Anyone who really knows me will tell you that I'm one of the nicest people to meet. YOU BROUGHT THE DRAMA, and I returned it. Isn't that what a "War Room" is for?

Face it, kid... you lost. Game Over. And just like the final boss in Nam-75, there are NO continues.

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