To hell with the oh so called crystal system!!!

the_move · Mar 3, 2002

Really, who gives a shit on this!

1. It is most certainly an MVS-only

2. It is still unclear, what it contains and what it is capable of.

3. We´ve already seen the "success" of the N64 after the SNES.

4. IMO it is no NeoGeo at all. The old 16-bit is the only one to go (okay, except the Pocket)
I do not want a new system at all! :mad:

Robert · Mar 3, 2002

the crystal system represent a good way to produce new neo products with more "power". Everybody here know that SNK has pushed the neo to the limits and if you want some graphics or animations improves, you need to find a more powerful support.
We have technical data from the crystal system, take a few times to write to the company and they will answer you quickly. I have made it twice and they give me the adress of the european seller and other infos.
You compare the crystal to the n64. We speak here about arcade hardwares so this is not the same market.
I agree with you that we don't now what it's capable but it's true for all the new systems.
I'm not worried about this new support because I know that brezzasoft is behind that ans even if it's not SNK, they still have the "neo spirit".
You can refuse the support, pretending that the neo geo is the only one but you can refuse the evolution.
If like with cars, some people believe that the best ferrari is still the 250 GTO.

amansmanman · Mar 3, 2002

Originally posted by the_move:
Really, who gives a shit on this!

1. It is most certainly an MVS-only

2. It is still unclear, what it contains and what it is capable of.

3. We´ve already seen the "success" of the N64 after the SNES.

4. IMO it is no NeoGeo at all. The old 16-bit is the only one to go (okay, except the Pocket)
I do not want a new system at all! <hr></blockquote>

LOL What gibberish.

christopher belmondo · Mar 3, 2002

i like the neo ,but this could be realy the future for 2d games !!!

they have talked about ms5 on a other system !
i don't like the idia,but when..so i hope here !!

brezza soft has the spirit....who else is so mindles in this times and brings a 2d hardware out..?

i think we would....,but we are as stupid as they !!
believe ......give them a chance move !!!

they have me on there side !!!!

but i love snk !!
thats fact !!!!!!!!!!!!!! <img src="graemlins/multi.gif" border="0" alt="[Multi Color Bouncey]" />

the_move · Mar 3, 2002

Yeah, sure!

1. Everybody thoght the C64 has nothing more to other before Manfred Trenz introduced TURRICAN for it.

You can increase the NEO anytime because it uses a cart and not CD technology. That means you can add extra graphic chips and extra Ram into the cart.

And new systems are better, but make programmers lazy.

We already had that on the PS. Presentation is everything than and Gameplay and innovation is only secondary!

I have no faith in this!

the_move · Mar 3, 2002

What exactly are the technical things you about the Crystal?

christopher belmondo · Mar 3, 2002

Originally posted by the_move:
Yeah, sure!

1. Everybody thoght the C64 has nothing more to other before Manfred Trenz introduced TURRICAN for it.

You can increase the NEO anytime because it uses a cart and not CD technology. That means you can add extra graphic chips and extra Ram into the cart.

And new systems are better, but make programmers lazy.

We already had that on the PS. Presentation is everything than and Gameplay and innovation is only secondary!

I have no faith in this!<hr></blockquote>

i agree with some of your arguments,but i think most of the time it's not the programmers who became lazy !!

gaming has became mainstream,big buisness !!!
a game has to came out one a fixt date....and when it's not ready..?
who cares !!
this days it's about money !!
sad but true !!
not many companys care about gameplay and take time,maybe treasure...or nintendo !!!

so under this preasure..how can you develop a good game..?
they take it away,so what they do...alot of firework !!!

but the crystal system is 2d..a least,give it a chance !

the_move · Mar 3, 2002

Okay, but I would like to see:

1. Detailed info about what´s inside.

2. A home Version! Coz it has more style!

christopher belmondo · Mar 3, 2002

Originally posted by the_move:
Okay, but I would like to see:

1. Detailed info about what´s inside.

2. A home Version! Coz it has more style!<hr></blockquote>

that the move i like,do it like robert has said,send a mail !!!

i think we should give it realy a chance, it's not mainstream,it's a dam freak !!!!!!!
get out of here...they say..hehehe..!!!

Lee Gray · Mar 3, 2002

I must have been in hibernation as i aint got a clue what this system is. can it play neo geo mvs games as they are now ?

christopher belmondo · Mar 3, 2002

...and home version...hm....somebody should write them about this !!!
great idea....this would have more from the old neo style !!!

...i would like to see those 3 letters again......

S N K

very big.....very sweet and handsome !!!!!!

......so i would fall in love......ahhh...

christopher belmondo · Mar 3, 2002

Originally posted by Lee Gray:
I must have been in hibernation as i aint got a clue what this system is. can it play neo geo mvs games as they are now ?<hr></blockquote>

till now not !!!
but when you read trough the garou 2 topic, they have talked about a adapter,so you can play the games on your neo !
but i don't believe that !
the crystal system is a new hardware by brezza soft !
i think they have some of the snk spirit,you should trow an eye on it !
it could be promesing !!!

the_move · Mar 3, 2002

I alrady sent half a dozen Mails to Brezzasoft but they never responded!

Fran · Mar 3, 2002

Originally posted by the_move:
I alrady sent half a dozen Mails to Brezzasoft but they never responded!<hr></blockquote>

i wonder why

Fran · Mar 3, 2002

Originally posted by amansmanman:


LOL What gibberish.<hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" />

bmoc · Mar 3, 2002

No interest in Crystal at all or MVS......hardcore AES man.....

the_move · Mar 3, 2002

Originally posted by Fran:


<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" /> <hr></blockquote>

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Instead of posting here Fran, sell your face to the circus!

Fran · Mar 3, 2002

Originally posted by the_move:


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Instead of posting here Fran, sell your face to the circus!<hr></blockquote>

what a clever retort

NOT !

try again,weirdo

<img src="graemlins/makeface.gif" border="0" alt="[Make Face]" />

the_move · Mar 3, 2002

Originally posted by Fran:


what a clever retort

NOT !

try again,weirdo
<img src="graemlins/makeface.gif" border="0" alt="[Make Face]" /> <hr></blockquote>

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If your father had cummed onto the stove instead of into your mother, it would have stinked only once, fucktard!

Would you please disappear?!

[ March 03, 2002: Message edited by: the_move ]

Robert · Mar 3, 2002

The_move there are the infos that you need:

Processor
(handles graphics AND sound): 32Bit EISC CPU Core(cache 4k)
Wavetable Synthesizer(32channel, 16bit)
High performance 2D Graphic Based on 3D memory controller, Other
peripherals.
Operating Frequency: CPU 43MHZ / Graphic Core 86Mhz
Memory: Main mem 8MByte, Texture mem 8Mbyte, Frame mem 8Mbyte, Data mem selectable
Copy Protection: Built in
Display: 15Khz, 24Khz, 30Khz
Interface: JAMMA, Extension slot, Ext Serial port, 3/4P expansion slot
Sound Format: 44.1Khz, 16bit Stereo, I2S Format
Graphic effect: Zoom in/out, Rotation, Alpha Blending, Shading, Line-scrolling
Backup System: 32KByte SRAM, RTC
AMP: 22Watt, Stereo

You said that you can improve the neo geo but you can't improve the resolution for example. There are limitations due to the fact that the hardware use a 16 bits sytem. Parhaps that the limits are not reached but there are some effects that the neo will never be able to do.

ForeverSublime · Mar 3, 2002

Originally posted by the_move:

You can increase the NEO anytime because it uses a cart and not CD technology. That means you can add extra graphic chips and extra Ram into the cart.

And new systems are better, but make programmers lazy.

<hr></blockquote>

Good thought, The_Move. I completely agree. However, I believe new systems will be necessary to complete jobs the neo just can't. If these new systems come out, and are supported for 10 years, like the neo (but from the systems we've seen come out, that surely isn't the case), then I really do have faith that programmers will challenge the equipment they are working with, and try to be as innovative as possible.

[ March 03, 2002: Message edited by: ForeverSublime ]

the_move · Mar 3, 2002

Originally posted by robert:
The_move there are the infos that you need:

Processor
(handles graphics AND sound): 32Bit EISC CPU Core(cache 4k)
Wavetable Synthesizer(32channel, 16bit)
High performance 2D Graphic Based on 3D memory controller, Other
peripherals.
Operating Frequency: CPU 43MHZ / Graphic Core 86Mhz
Memory: Main mem 8MByte, Texture mem 8Mbyte, Frame mem 8Mbyte, Data mem selectable
Copy Protection: Built in
Display: 15Khz, 24Khz, 30Khz
Interface: JAMMA, Extension slot, Ext Serial port, 3/4P expansion slot
Sound Format: 44.1Khz, 16bit Stereo, I2S Format
Graphic effect: Zoom in/out, Rotation, Alpha Blending, Shading, Line-scrolling
Backup System: 32KByte SRAM, RTC
AMP: 22Watt, Stereo

You said that you can improve the neo geo but you can't improve the resolution for example. There are limitations due to the fact that the hardware use a 16 bits sytem. Parhaps that the limits are not reached but there are some effects that the neo will never be able to do.<hr></blockquote>
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Sorry, Robert, but this ingredients look like an 6 year old technology!

Maybe the Colour-variety and soundquality would be increased, but the rest could be achieved by enhancement chips on regular Neo-Carts!

This is no big change after all!

Robert · Mar 3, 2002

The best thing to do is to wait to see the first releases. I think this can a better argument than the tech infos that I can give you.

the_move · Mar 3, 2002

Originally posted by robert:
The best thing to do is to wait to see the first releases. I think this can a better argument than the tech infos that I can give you.<hr></blockquote>

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The first releases have always been the worst!

On almost every system!

Fran · Mar 3, 2002

the move is a poor retarted cunt

fuckin weirdo

he posts bullshit and starts useless topics like this one

WEIRDO

To hell with the oh so called crystal system!!!

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