magician lord 2?? fact or fiction??

greedostick

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i was looking at the master list and seen magician lord 2,how long has this been a rumor??
any chance it's real??
 

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yes,before anyone says it's not been released,i know that,i mean is it being developed as we speak??
 

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Any official SNK word I have seen has always stated that ML2 was a rumor and nothing more. I believe that someone within SNK once said something random about it being a possibility at one point in time, thus the legend was born. I think it is more Urban Legend than Legendary Find kind of thing.
 

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Hmm. It's tough sometimes to sort these rumors out. For instance, 1 fact is that SNK had plans to release a version of Windjammers on the NGPC. It was actually on their up-n-coming software list. Of course, a good chance that not 1 piece of code was actually done before it was silently canned.
 

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They probably decided that Windjammers wouldn't sell. It's basically a highly enhanced version of Pong, so I can't imagine the gameplay engine requiring more than a page of code to begin with. :p
 

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Heh heh. Though it is a real shame. It's such a great idea for a portable, and probably would've joined my "most played" portable game list.

<small>[ August 13, 2003, 12:51 PM: Message edited by: Kirk Foiden ]</small>
 

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I hear that... for a portable, sometimes the simple games are the best. I can't get into Windjammers on the MVS, but as far as Pong-ish games go I've played 50+ hours of Arkanoid in my day. Now that I wouldn't mind having a portable version of!
 

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The old rumor was that when E. Kawasaki went to SNK Do Brazil, he had the cart, and that since then no one saw it.
 

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EvilWasabi:
The old rumor was that when E. Kawasaki went to SNK Do Brazil, he had the cart, and that since then no one saw it.
I had heard a similar "South American" rumor at one point. I even put to memory the name of the city. It was the city of "Miras des Flores" in Peru I believe. A proto was rumored to have been tested there at an arcade.
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Additional claims and rumors have surfaced over the years as well. But alas the initial rumor of this title was actually begun as nothing more then a marketing ploy! Die Hard Game Fan magazine (among other publications at the time) was given the story whereas to try and create hype for the neogeo, which it starved for back in the day as it was scarsely covered in magazines.
oh_no
However...I have always maintained this opinion...
:o
The possibility of a Magician Lord 2 in and of itself is not so ridiculous. Many of the early neogeo hits such as Baseball Stars, Crossed Swords, Sengoku, and King of the Monsters all DID in fact have sequels. Add to that the fact that Magician Lord was popular and was a success (on the home unit) and you can see how it would not be far fetched for a sequel to have been considered.
:o
So perhaps (even if merely by coincidence)work was actually being done on a sequel to Magician Lord, and even proto'd. I guess we really cannot say for certain one way or the other. Maybe that's what keeps it exciting to discuss.
 

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Guys..

How can you forget ?

Dion has the proto. he stated it's 70% complete and Makismo once announced that Dion himself would finish programming the game.

lol

Funniest thing I ever read.

I did see a pic one time of the game in some mag though, which was not from magician lord '1'.

Anyone else ever saw that too ?
 

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I have an old review for sengoku 2 and the reviewer was complaining that snk delayed magician lord 2 so that they could make more fighting games.
 

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I would love to see a new Magician Lord game come out. Hopefull, if we are really lucky. I mean there is a new SS coming out so you never know.

GAMEFAN
 

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I've always heard that this was nothing more than a rumor. In fact didn't Ben confirm this in an interview?
 

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These rumors answers me something intresting faq. A guy told me that this game exist few of the Neo-Geo prototype game lists. I think this game is playable, as a prototype game. Im not sure but I is true hopefully. BTW:I have Magician lord on my AES system buttrock
 

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I know that SNK was big in South America - much more visible than it was here in terms of arcade presence. Same for Europe. But as an American I have trouble thinking outside my borders, and can't comprehend why a proto would be brought to South America at all.


SuperGun:
EvilWasabi:
The old rumor was that when E. Kawasaki went to SNK Do Brazil, he had the cart, and that since then no one saw it.
I had heard a similar "South American" rumor at one point. I even put to memory the name of the city. It was the city of "Miras des Flores" in Peru I believe. A proto was rumored to have been tested there at an arcade.
spock
Additional claims and rumors have surfaced over the years as well. But alas the initial rumor of this title was actually begun as nothing more then a marketing ploy! Die Hard Game Fan magazine (among other publications at the time) was given the story whereas to try and create hype for the neogeo, which it starved for back in the day as it was scarsely covered in magazines.
oh_no
However...I have always maintained this opinion...
:o
The possibility of a Magician Lord 2 in and of itself is not so ridiculous. Many of the early neogeo hits such as Baseball Stars, Crossed Swords, Sengoku, and King of the Monsters all DID in fact have sequels. Add to that the fact that Magician Lord was popular and was a success (on the home unit) and you can see how it would not be far fetched for a sequel to have been considered.
:o
So perhaps (even if merely by coincidence)work was actually being done on a sequel to Magician Lord, and even proto'd. I guess we really cannot say for certain one way or the other. Maybe that's what keeps it exciting to discuss.
 

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From what I have read, The GameLord said that the title was never to be.

You may say ML was a success on the home system, but that's not where the money is made. So, I think it is a rather far fetched idea for ML2 to have a proto developed for the Neo Geo. I see it more likely that it would be developed for a more popular home system - looks megadrive-ish in nature, but it may not be able to handle the shrinking/growing sprites like the SNES could easily. Furthermore, how much of a success was ML for the home system, really? It was a pack-in game. Sure, I'd consider the pack-ins for the NES and Genesis a success... but how many people who have ML know the main character's name*? ML is a cool game, and I can tell the makers put a lot of thought into it. However, I don't think it was appreciated at the time (certainly not in the arcades). I believe it is a game getting more and more popular with Neo gamers as the years go on.


*Elta.
 

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magician lord 2 was more than a rumour. Edge magazine covered its non appearence at a game show in 1994.

As for windjammers follow ups/Arkanoid like gameplay....how about the least talked about neo geo game ever Pop N Bounce?
 

Jedite

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Jus' a rumor. Nothing more. The Alpha company dosen't exist anymore due to SNK closing down.
 

J_Hendrix

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Jedite: Did you play that magician lord?

I have this on AES with memoryblock, frikkin great game.
 

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J_Hendrix:
These rumors answers me something intresting faq. A guy told me that this game exist few of the Neo-Geo prototype game lists. I think this game is playable, as a prototype game. Im not sure but I is true hopefully. BTW:I have Magician lord on my AES system buttrock
Is he your boss Dion? :rolleyes:
 

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leGionellz:
Guys..

How can you forget ?

Dion has the proto. he stated it's 70% complete and Makismo once announced that Dion himself would finish programming the game.

lol

Funniest thing I ever read.

I did see a pic one time of the game in some mag though, which was not from magician lord '1'.

Anyone else ever saw that too ?
I was close with Chad Okata and DIon back in the early days of NeoGeo. Dion showed me the two screenshots of Magician Lord 2, but I told him that they were Magician Lord early prototype shots(the shots were of level one with the doors in a different spot, confirmed by SNK at the time). Chad would sometimes get to talk with SNK of japan and I always asked him to ask them about ML2. The only answer he ever got was that ADK had a unfinished version(non-playable). I still believe that the rarest game has to be World Heroes Multi player, I saw the video tape in the back of SNK's warehouse.
 

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jruizleon:
leGionellz:
Guys..

How can you forget ?

Dion has the proto. he stated it's 70% complete and Makismo once announced that Dion himself would finish programming the game.

lol

Funniest thing I ever read.

I did see a pic one time of the game in some mag though, which was not from magician lord '1'.

Anyone else ever saw that too ?
I was close with Chad Okata and DIon back in the early days of NeoGeo. Dion showed me the two screenshots of Magician Lord 2, but I told him that they were Magician Lord early prototype shots(the shots were of level one with the doors in a different spot, confirmed by SNK at the time). Chad would sometimes get to talk with SNK of japan and I always asked him to ask them about ML2. The only answer he ever got was that ADK had a unfinished version(non-playable). I still believe that the rarest game has to be World Heroes Multi player, I saw the video tape in the back of SNK's warehouse.
No offense, but "early days"? Dion? Dion and The Gamelord are chronologically incompatible with SNK. Dion arrived too late in the scene.
 

Ilovejapangirls

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Sorry to go OT

but what is this World Heroes Multi Player?

Thanks in advance to everyone that helps me^__^
 
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