Best way to play MVS games without a cabinet?

Originally posted by BioMotor_Unitron:
<strong>I would go with a full cabinet, unless you have space considerations, in which case I would go for one of the Japanese SuperGuns, like a Sigma. The HGA and SuperNova have been the subject of many horror stories of late.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I'd love a cabinet, but space and shipping are a huge concern.

That said, where are good places to buy Sigmas that are ready to play MVS games? I want to avoid soldering stuff if possible...

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Originally posted by BioMotor_Unitron:
<strong>I believe Nikke deals in them, but I know little about dealing with Sigma's. </strong><hr></blockquote>

Do you have his website URL handy?

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Originally posted by BioMotor_Unitron:
<strong>I since it looks like the person I was going to build it for will not be leaving the state to go to college, so she can take the two slot cabinet if she goes to the local University.
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Silly moderator, girls don't play neo.
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Originally posted by Nick Goracke:
<strong>Hi all!

So... what's the best way to play MVS carts without a cabinet? </strong><hr></blockquote>

Pretend that your MVS carts are action figures. Yes, it's MVS Wars. Can the combined might of the Metal Slug and King of Fighters carts be enough to take down the evil forces of the bad games, led by the vicious Diggerman? It's all up to you to decide who prevails in this battle of the carts. MVS Wars. Coming to a store near you (MVS cab not included).

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Originally posted by Chibi_Nappa:
<strong>I say go the Supernova route. I bought mine from <a href="http://www.massystems.com" target="_blank">www.massystems.com</a> for $300. You still need to buy the MVS, but they are around $100. The Supernova comes ready to play with no soldering required. You might just want to open it up to fiddle with the RGB and voltage knobs inside. The presets aren't very good. Still, that's just knob twisting. No soldering. I own a Supernova and don't have a single horror story to report. They work fine, and quite frankly I prefer my games coming out of the TV (or RBG monitor) or my choice and my 200 watt sterio system instead of cheapy little arcade cab speakers. With a Supernova you are not limited in any way with what you can connect, and it is nice and small.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Yeah the sound isn't as good as home stereo systems , but you can't beat Arcade controls .

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Originally posted by Wolf:
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Silly moderator, girls don't play neo.
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Wolf: Whatever...ass

Nick: Here's the link to Nikke:

<a href="http://www1.ocn.ne.jp/~kaiten/frame1.htm#first" target="_blank">Kaiten Games Old Site</a>

If you don't want to solder, then buy one of his $45 JAMMA harnesses. It comes with the kickboard already soldered on and a test switch comes soldered too. The only thing you would need to solder in the future is buttons 5 & 6 if you got a arcade motherboard/games that require it.

[ April 02, 2002: Message edited by: achika ]</p>

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Originally posted by achika:
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Wolf: Whatever...ass

Nick: Here's the link to Nikke:

<a href="http://www1.ocn.ne.jp/~kaiten/frame1.htm#first" target="_blank">Kaiten Games Old Site</a>

If you don't want to solder, then buy one of his $45 JAMMA harnesses. It comes with the kickboard already soldered on and a test switch comes soldered too. The only thing you would need to solder in the future is buttons 5 & 6 if you got a arcade motherboard/games that require it.

[ April 02, 2002: Message edited by: achika ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

I'm looking at eBay, and I see many different Jamma harnesses (just a whole bunch of wires, from the looks of it) and "kick" harnesses.

I won't lie - I have no idea what the differences are. And if I did, I'd have no idea what to do with it.

Is there a good, basic sight that outlines this kind of stuff? Sigma systems for Dummies, or something?

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Originally posted by Nick Goracke:
<strong>Hi all!

I've *really* been considering doing some conversions for myself, but the more I look, the more carts I find that I want to convert. I'm not quite sure this would be the most economical method - never mind all the work and destruction required.

So... what's the best way to play MVS carts without a cabinet? I've seen Sigma's and Superguns for sale (and the option to play other arcade PCBs is *really* cool), but how well do they work? I really want to avoid soldering and keep the price reasonable - is something like this even an option?

I've also considering the Phantom1, but it's as expensive as a supergun/sigma, might have problems with my low serial number AES, and won't play other arcade PCBs.

What's the best way, taking into consideration versatility, how well it works, and price?

Thanks.

-Nick</strong><hr></blockquote>

You know what the best way is ..... Not that we approve of it.

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Originally posted by Wolf:
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Silly moderator, girls don't play neo.
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So what are you saying, that my little sister is actually my little brother? <img src="graemlins/eek2.gif" border="0" alt="[Eek 2]" />

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Originally posted by achika:
<strong>I'd be happy to offer you pictures of whatever you need. Just let me know and I can post them to my site by this weekend. If you buy one of those JAMMA harnesses and the kickboard, then you will have to solder, because those bare wires don't go directly into Nikke's Sigmas. It won't be that hard, you just need to go find a wiring diagram (I put one below). The solder is simple, all you need a soldering gun, the JAMMA, kickboard and maybe a multimeter. However, you won't get the test switch that Nikke's harness has-no biggie though as your boards should have them too.

When you play other boards, like Capcom CPS II on your Sigma, you WILL have to solder buttons 4-6 onto the kick harness. These use a second harness (auxilary) that do not run through JAMMA. I hope to solder mine tonight, so I can give you info on that too if you so desire.

But because the NEO GEO MVS uses button 4 from the JAMMA harness, you won't need to worry about that. This is the same for Sega STV and Hyper Neo 64.

<a href="http://www.larwe.com/coinop/jamma.html" target="_blank">JAMMA Pinout</a>

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Any pictures you could provide would be a huge help. If you assume I know nothing, you'll be pretty close.

Just a question - I've seen some Capcom CPS2 kick harnesses on eBay... if I got one of those, would the 6 buttom problem be taken care of? Is it going to work for MVS or Sega STV titles?

Thanks so much for you help,

-Nick

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Originally posted by Samurai Hamster:
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Yeah the sound isn't as good as home stereo systems , but you can't beat Arcade controls .</strong><hr></blockquote>
When you get a Supernova, the joysticks are made from the exact same arcade parts you have in a cabinet. What's the difference?

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Originally posted by Nick Goracke:
<strong>Just a question - I've seen some Capcom CPS2 kick harnesses on eBay... if I got one of those, would the 6 buttom problem be taken care of? Is it going to work for MVS or Sega STV titles?</strong><hr></blockquote>

If you are talking about the auxilary (kick) harnesses from BBU or MD Gamesales, yes you need one of those, but only once you get the CPS II unit. The MVS and STV don't use buttons 5-6 as far as I know, so you won't have any problems there. I will post when I have the pictures up.

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