Neo Geo - the record holder for console longevity?

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For as far back as I can remember, it always seemed a console lasted 2-5 years before it died and companies stopped supporting it...Atari, Nintendo, NEC, Sony, Sega (especially) all come to mind...I think its amazing in light of all the systems that have come and gone that the good old Neo Geo still has us looking forward to a few new releases 13 years after its launch...Is this the record for longevity in gaming? The greatest console ever?

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I think the PCE might give it a run, but the Neo will most likely surpass that mark if it's not already done.


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Basically, Neo Geo is longest lasting system out there. It's still going strong because us fans of it.
 
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As much as I love the old SNK company itself both Pre-Neo and during the NEO, and teh NEO:GEO system overall. I think the real reason the NEO is still around after 13 years has more to do with the fact it was an arcade machine overall that was waaaaaaay more powerfull than the other 16-Bitters for the home console market, and thus due to all the arcades that still exist, PLAYMORE is able to keep the flicker on the candle (if only for several more years) because of this one reason overall. I mean MVS outsells AES no doubt about it. Sure the die-hards have gone to great lenghts to continue support of the system. But if the NEO had been a "Home Console Only" It probably would never have been around long enough for PLAYMORE to snag the rights from Aruze due to the extravagent costs of AES carts from day one. Though I do think it's awesome that 13 years later it's still in the running. I'm hoping PLAYMORE can get the NEO to a full 20 years before the party's over for good. Just imagine that a game system being a living thing for two decades.

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I think the Neo's longevity is quite extraordinary, any way you care to slice it. Other expensive and powerful (or so they thought) systems like 3DO and CD-i came out after, yet died WAY before the Neo. I can talk shit about those systems since I was one of the poor saps that actually dumped his cash into them (while I was a teenager mopping floors and dusting shelves to scrounge up the money no less!!). Oh, and sega cd and turbogrphx cd machines weren't exactly wallet friendly either.

There's just something timeless about the Neo .....

Ahhhhhh ......

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I dunno, but if you count that game that was released last year for the turbografx then that would be longer

The sega master system 3 came out last year with a bunch of built-in games to...dunno about normal games, but they were made into the mid-late 90's at least.
 
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Snip: I can talk shit about those systems since I was one of the poor saps that actually dumped his cash into them

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Man Galfordo, That took guts to admit wink I thought I was the only one. I didnt get the cd-i, segacd or turbocd...But it was funny watching psx's drop below $100 over time after I had dropped $700 for a japanese psx before the US launch. Man the old 3Do...I had such big dreams for that system, what a disaster oh_no Oh well, at least it gave us return fire and a pretty good puzzle bobble port wink
 
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What about Atari's VCS2600, that thing got some games in the late 90s iirc but came out way before the Neo.
 
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You gotta be friggin kidding me? that rocks! any word on any updated dungeon masters?
 
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The Famicom is ceasing production this year, released in 1983 so if the Neo Geo survives until 2010 then maybe it'll get that title. The Atari VCS released in 1977 was produced up until 1993, 16 years, so if the Neo Geo surives until 2006 then it will take the second place crown. Still it survived this long against all odds (well several tens of good arcade games along the way helped).
 
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The Famicom is ceasing production this year, released in 1983 so if the Neo Geo survives until 2010 then maybe it'll get that title. The Atari VCS released in 1977 was produced up until 1993, 16 years, so if the Neo Geo surives until 2006 then it will take the second place crown. Still it survived this long against all odds (well several tens of good arcade games along the way helped).
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The Famicom has ceased production as of two weeks ago. Otherwise, you're 100% correct. All of the other systems in this thread have only had unofficial games released...
 
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The Amiga is, of course, a computer, and not a console. Still have my A1000 bought in 1985 tho' :)
 
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The Famicom has ceased production as of two weeks ago. Otherwise, you're 100% correct. All of the other systems in this thread have only had unofficial games released...
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Are the upcoming Neo games like svcc considered "official releases"? curious
 
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The Famicom has ceased production as of two weeks ago. Otherwise, you're 100% correct. All of the other systems in this thread have only had unofficial games released...
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Are the upcoming Neo games like svcc considered "official releases"? curious
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Neo Geo wins, hands down.

No system has had such strong support from its makers for so long.

All other systems that are purportedly still alive are being supported by fanware or some afterthought game that produced late (for whatever strange reason).

Because the MVS still goes on with surprising survivability, the Neo home system also keeps on chugging.

No system can claim that.

If you start using the other weird, half-ass criteria like the others, I could form a tiny game company, produce an Atari 800 game, and them make it the longest running system of all time.

You need a legitimate cut off, and by any standard, the Neo Geo is still alive.
 
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<strong> Man Galfordo, That took guts to admit wink I thought I was the only one. I didnt get the cd-i, segacd or turbocd...But it was funny watching psx's drop below $100 over time after I had dropped $700 for a japanese psx before the US launch. Man the old 3Do...I had such big dreams for that system, what a disaster oh_no Oh well, at least it gave us return fire and a pretty good puzzle bobble port wink
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I actually got the 3DO just so I could have a decent port of SamSho 1 (the SNES port was just too pathetic) ... and it was a pretty damned good one. After that, things were pretty much all downhill. Road Rash and Gex were kinda cool though. Anyway, I try not to have any insecurities about my previous video game purchases ... life's too short!
 
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Bobak:
Neo Geo wins, hands down.

No system has had such strong support from its makers for so long.

All other systems that are purportedly still alive are being supported by fanware or some afterthought game that produced late (for whatever strange reason).

Because the MVS still goes on with surprising survivability, the Neo home system also keeps on chugging.

No system can claim that.

If you start using the other weird, half-ass criteria like the others, I could form a tiny game company, produce an Atari 800 game, and them make it the longest running system of all time.

You need a legitimate cut off, and by any standard, the Neo Geo is still alive.
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I'm pretty sure that AES takes the price. Four or five new games officially released by the original maker (well, more or less) is better than one or two fan made games.
 
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Bobak, sorry man but your wrong on this one. Atari 2600 had official support, and by official I mean you could buy newly developed games at retail stores, from 1977-1993. The Neo is almost there, a couple more years to tie. Will it make it?

Alot of Atari's late releases were repackaged classics. Such as Stargate being renamed and with overhauled packaging to Defender II. Xenophobe is a late release, 1990. I can't name a specific title off the top of my head past 1990, but Im positive that 2600's and games were available thru 1992 and into 1993.
 
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I'm a little confused. Are the recent and upcoming Neo Geo releases considered "official" games?

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I'm a little confused. Are the recent and upcoming Neo Geo releases considered "official" games?

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Yes,of course they are? :confused:
Why shouldn't they?? spock

These are not NGF stuff,or Diggerman or something... smirk
They are as official as they can be.
 
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GunstarHero:
Bobak, sorry man but your wrong on this one. Atari 2600 had official support, and by official I mean you could buy newly developed games at retail stores, from 1977-1993. The Neo is almost there, a couple more years to tie. Will it make it?

Alot of Atari's late releases were repackaged classics. Such as Stargate being renamed and with overhauled packaging to Defender II. Xenophobe is a late release, 1990. I can't name a specific title off the top of my head past 1990, but Im positive that 2600's and games were available thru 1992 and into 1993.
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Who developed them? Atari? Activision?

I'll give you at least 12 years on the Atari 2600, I remember their ads in about 1987-88 (they had that annoying jingle/rap "The fun is back oh yesiree, the 2600 from A-tar-i")

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droid:
The Famicom has ceased production as of two weeks ago. Otherwise, you're 100% correct. All of the other systems in this thread have only had unofficial games released...
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Are the upcoming Neo games like svcc considered "official releases"? curious
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According to Shito, anything got altered from original is considered "Fake" therefore Neo doesn't count.

Playmore isn't original SNK, period.

US/Euro AES are fake as they are not "original" from JPN version in label, case, insert, program codes....etc.
 
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Bobak:
GunstarHero:
Bobak, sorry man but your wrong on this one. Atari 2600 had official support, and by official I mean you could buy newly developed games at retail stores, from 1977-1993. The Neo is almost there, a couple more years to tie. Will it make it?

Alot of Atari's late releases were repackaged classics. Such as Stargate being renamed and with overhauled packaging to Defender II. Xenophobe is a late release, 1990. I can't name a specific title off the top of my head past 1990, but Im positive that 2600's and games were available thru 1992 and into 1993.
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Who developed them? Atari? Activision?

I'll give you at least 12 years on the Atari 2600, I remember their ads in about 1987-88 (they had that annoying jingle/rap "The fun is back oh yesiree, the 2600 from A-tar-i")
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The Atari 2600 gets at least 15 years on the 2600 console itself, as the last of the retail stores rid themselves of the 2600 Jr. in 1992, before the release of the Jaguar in 1993.

Cartridges continued to be supplied to the stores. Xenophobe like I mentioned has a copyright of 1990 by Atari. Developers like Absolute Entertainment and Epyx continued its support of the hardware during the late 80's, although I can't find one of their carts past 1989 in my collection.

Another 1990 game developed by Atari is Sentinel, a light gun game. Another by Atari was Fatal Run, also 1990.

News flash maybe for you Bobak, SNK corp of America released Ikari Warriors for the 2600 in 1990. Nice little tidbit of useless info for our forum members!

I'm having a little trouble finding copyright dates for a few of the late release games that were actually just New print runs of old classics that Atari had bought the rights to. Such as Defender II, and Q*Bert. However, I've firmly established that games were produced and supplied on a large scale up thru 1990 (I'm sure it goes farther), which gives the Atari 13 years just on software, but seeing as how I know the consoles were available in stores thru 1992, I have to stand by a total of 15 years of support for the Atari 2600. Only 2 more years for the Neo to tie.
 
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