a happy 11th Anniversary to those wacky Heroes... (7/28)

steveold

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On July 28, 1992, World Heroes made its US debut in arcade parlors and mini marts and used mom n pop video rental stores nationwide.

It changed gaming history.

Alright it didn't.

It offset a huge loyal fanbase.

Alright it didn't.

It made a unique impact on me and a few others that somehow words can't explain. This part is in fact true. However sad and twisted this may be, it's true, its damn true :)

A long time ago when I joined neo-geo.com I asked for opinions on WH and I've compiled 'em

I know the nay-sayers will come out and bash WH again in this thread... but hey -- go on right ahead. This is open for *any* comments in regards to the Heroes. Anything goes.

I'll post some shit tomorrow, but for now here are some comments from memorable neo-geo.com members and misc... BTW this list was last updated 9/9/01... I remember emailing it to NeoBomberman on 9/10/01... and the next day... well... you know

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Muscle Power also had the coolest block stance I've ever seen: instead of using his hands to cover up, he just stood there and bared his chest to the attack. You've gotta respect that! wink -Ooja

Not sure about this, but Muscle Power (heh, what a name:D) was also the first character to start the "number one!" craze that so many other SNK characters are known for (Mickey from AoF fame, Brian Battler from KoF). I'd love to see those three make their own team in KoF and be called the "Numbah 1!" team! -Darkwing

I have AES World Heroes 1, 2, Jet, and Perfect. It's the only fighting series I have a complete set of on Neo Geo. I always thought they were under rated. ADK had some neat character designs, art, backgrounds, and music. The Death Matches were too cool, juggling your friends off electric ropes or spikes was devious fun! -Laserblast my note. twisted.... I like it!

Ah World Heroes. I too loved that series. True about part 1, it was slow as a turtle and the cheapness to it was definetly there (remember people poking you to death with Brocken's low jab?), but I loved it. It was a cool game. Part 2 was great, lots of mistakes fixed. JET I played a little bit, but it never got all of my attention. Perfect I loved though, simply awesome. That is the only WH I don't own for the AES yet... so if anyone wants to sell me one... hehe. -Outsider

I really like the World Heroes games, it was a great series. It was the most underated of the fighting games. It would have been cool to see them in Capcom vs. SNK. -Ryo

PERFECT IS JUST THAT, PERHAPS BETTER TO DIE PERFECT THAN TO GROW OLD AND CRAPPY, LIKE WHAT CAPCOMS DONE WITH THEIR FIGHTERS.....
BAH THEY DONT EVEN HAVE A STORY ANYMORE....... -Devil_Gui

This guy's "tribute" below kicks ass. He also happens to be a kick ass seller

As for the series, though, it's still my favourite of fighters ever. I immediately took to the idea of all these warriors from different time periods, like the Hulkamania man Muscle Power, Bruce Lee's best impersonator Kim Dragon, Hanzou, the most famous of ninjas and so on. The combo system may not be the best ever but the game was bright & colorful, had nice sound effects, I liked the music, the characters were sort of bulky (in a good way), they had a great cartoony look to them and everything else I could say.

I still enjoy playing the original, defeating this intruding alien self-proclaimed as the strongest ever. World Heroes 2, ahhhhh. What a game! Really cheap as Hell but so what! It's got one of my all-time favourite intros, the music is through the roof, combos got crazy, not even Rugal proved to be as cheap as Dio, the new boys added quite a lot, and for a long time this was my favourite game. Also why I half destroyed one of my joysticks.

World Heroes 2 Jet. As I once said elsewhere, and I quote:
"ADK=originator of the tournament fighter."

Let's think about this for a minute. In 1994, it was World Heroes 2 Jet with its "Tournament of the Ages" that brought us fighting game freaks the world's first tournament fighter. WH2Jet was released 26 April, 1994 (and what a treat! a day before my birthday) while The King of Fighters '94 was released 25 August, 1994. So it was SNK who copied ADK's revolutionary idea, though SNK took it one step further and debuted the team battle idea, which Capcom then "borrowed" and altered, with a bit of a "WWF" (tag team) edge to it.

And while we're on the subject of ADK's ideas being used, World Heroes 2 Jet must have been quite highly regarded by SNK, as they completely ripped the format of the game and implemented it into the game which was Geese Howard's last stand: Real Bout Fatal Fury. A single fighter vs teams of 3, with boss battles following the four tournament matches, only WH2Jet had a couple extra single matches. ALSO, and correct me if I'm wrong, but WH2Jet was the first fighting game to rank the player with battle points, in general a grading system, which the Fatal Fury series adopted the next year, and which we now see in Capcom vs SNK. I just had a flash memory of seeing that system in another fighting game, but I can't think what game, if anything.

So, next time you pop a World Heroes game into your cabinet or home system, think of all that ADK did for the world of fighting games, and give them a moment of thanks.

Perfect, I never got to play that much of. Unlike the other three, which I played hugely in the arcades, and plenty of the first two at home, the machine that housed WHP did not keep it around so long, so I never got my fill of it. Even so, to date, it remains the only series I ever experienced in the arcades, over the years. I liked what I played and burst out laughing when I had that crazy maniac, Jack, who got sucked into Rasputin's Secret Garden, and I remember Jack, eyes bulging out and all, trying with all his might to claw his way out, only to get pulled back in and to see little hearts flying. Oh, the memories.

For all that it's worth, for all the hilarious dialogue & win quotes, for the nutty endings, the vibrant color of both the characters in addition to the backgrounds, only otherwise found in the Alpha series (though WH did it first!), for a combo engine that works well even today, World Heroes is the most underrated fighting series on the planet, and is quite worth owning.

Apart from a few Pocket titles that didn't cause the company a rebirth, I think ADK's last game was Twinkel Star Sprites, or maybe OverTop. Such a sad state of affairs, and even Twinkel Star Sprites on the Dreamcast (Saturn version as well?) was published by SNK, so I have a feeling that somebody who wanted to, could in fact pick up the WH series, and deliver a World Heroes 3 to the world. -Neo Bomber Man


I am also a fan of World Heroes series. Yeah, as for "Jet", they termed that because they increased the game speed-- prior to that, WH series were notorious for being slow. It was a nice change, like SF 2 Turbo. -Master Terry Bogard

Place another vote for the World Heroes series... this is one of my favorite fighters for the Neo Geo. At one time I did own World Heroes 2 Jet, but I foolishly sold that cart away. I'm certain that I could possibly find another one of those games laying around in the future... WH2J also allowed you to select characters in regular, strength and speed mode, which I think is a first for fighters in general, alongside those crazy Death Matches from the first two games.
World Heroes Perfect is one of the best fighters I ever played. Every character had their own quirky, weird fighting style and there was plenty of action. Someone already pointed out the hilarious antics of Rasputin and his "Garden Of Love" Super, and I also got into characters like Erick, Captain Kidd, Ryoko, Mudman (WHOOO HOOO!!), Brocken, and Gokuu. I would love to see some of these characters return in a future SNK title, or in CvS2. -Vinylboy

Yeah, I just picked up World Heroes and World Heroes 2 about a month ago for Home Cart. I remember seeing WH in the arcades when I was younger...I just remember Rasputin's gigantic magic hands throw move, HAHA, I just got that image burned into my head (Those sprites were HUGE for '92!)...so yeah it was a real treat to play it again. I find my self humming that WH2 character select music all the time! LOL -Ukyo

I'll tell you, you're not the only one! I really love character select screen tracks, and that one is still one of the very best ever. -Neo Bomber Man

Who's one of my most favorite fighters of all time? Easy, Kim Dragon. I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for this character. He was the first Bruce Lee-esque fighter, and still the best of the bunch. -Ooja

There are only two fighting series I can play 'till the cows come home: Street Fighter and World Heroes. -Neo Bomber Man

I think World Heroes Perfect is one of the top 3 Neo-Geo fighting games out there. It was quite simply ahead of it's time and was very underrated. The game totally pushed the boundaries further. It has the quality to put it in the ranks with Samurai Spirits 2 and any of the King of Fighter games. Also, try part 2 as it has individual backgrounds and music for everyone. The Super NES version was done extremely well for it's time but if you own a Neo, it's the only way to go. I bought a Neo CD just for the World Heroes series -FUUMA

I hope World Heroes 3 comes out. I loved part 2 and Perfect.
Man I miss Mudman and Fuuma. -Omega Guyver

I love the World Heroes series! I thought 2 was the best one. Perfect was pretty good, but I only got to play it once. Can't really judge on that. Jet was OK... but I liked 2 overall. -Cypheruppercut

If it weren't for World Heroes I would've never got into the Neo Geo. And for the record I enjoy World Heroes more than Street Fighter. -TBA

<small>[ July 26, 2003, 08:41 PM: Message edited by: Steve ]</small>
 
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A very nice and worthy tribute Steve buttrock

*runs off to play some WH2Jet*---->
 

Giby

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qube:
A very nice and worthy tribute Steve buttrock

*runs off to play some WH2Jet*---->
I agree very good tribute.

*runs off and pisses on a WH2 SNES cart*
 

Hot Chocolate

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Master Giby:
qube:
A very nice and worthy tribute Steve buttrock

*runs off to play some WH2Jet*---->
I agree very good tribute.

*runs off and pisses on a WH2 SNES cart*
Ain't no way in hell I'd buy that off you now, what a way to devalue a cart there giby old man :cool:
 

Fluff_Daddy

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don't you mean increased? I mean: how many carts has Master Giby actually taken a piss on? Probably just this one! That makes this cart VERY unique (ebay: Super RARE LE 1/1). So the price for that shitty game will probably rise to the skies because of this.

remember: think --> post

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oldschool

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The only World Heroes titles I've played were the SNES incarnations. IMO they sucked badly. Are the Neo Geo original versions better?
 

Yodd

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oldschool:
The only World Heroes titles I've played were the SNES incarnations. IMO they sucked badly. Are the Neo Geo original versions better?
No.

They look better, but gameplay wise they still suck.
 

Hot Chocolate

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Fluff_Daddy:
don't you mean increased? I mean: how many carts has Master Giby actually taken a piss on? Probably just this one! That makes this cart VERY unique (ebay: Super RARE LE 1/1). So the price for that shitty game will probably rise to the skies because of this.

remember: think --> post
No he's known for taken a piss on various games, if you look carefully he might have pissed on a game you own.

remember: post --> think
 

Fluff_Daddy

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ARGH!!! Not my TSS cart!!! ARGH!!! The box looks like it's had it's share of moisture treatment but that!?!?!?!


Anyway, I'm sorry if it sounded like an insult. I wasn't thinking myself when I wrote that so the post --> think thingy is true ;-)
 

Giby

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To be honest with you I have piussed on only 2 games.

DMC: cause I beat it and got all of the secrets in a day or 2.

GTA: this game is plain old garbage.

I have yet to piss on any other game. :D
 

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Happy bday to the shittiest fighting game series ever created. buttrock
 

Hidden Character

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Happy birthday to a game that I couldn't beat if the planet's fate hung in the balance.
 

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SamuraiShodownSensei:
Happy bday to the shittiest fighting game series ever created. buttrock
How old is GG now?
 

Nesagwa

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WOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

MUDMAN RULES!!!!!!

<img src="http://www.nes.pdman.com/x/mudman-dancing.gif" alt=" - " />

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Any reason why World Heroes on CD is more expensive then World Heroes on AES? I want a World Heroes 1 on Neo Geo CD now damnit. It's not that bad a fighting game, rather play this then the piss that Sengoku is any day of the week.
 

cLo

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Nice tribute! buttrock

Yeah, I remember the first time I played World Heroes at my local Tilt. I thougt it was one of the coolest fighters I ever played, and I still do. I thought the spiked walls and electrified rings were great. Very fun game indeed!
 

steveold

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My brother was the one who introduced me to WH. It was a summer day in 1992 and he came home from the arcades telling me about this "new Street Fighter contender."

I went and played it. Brocken was my first character. I was hooked for good then.

In 1993 my dad took me grocery shopping. I saw an MVS in the corner and rushed to it. Holy shit! World Heroes 2?!?!? I had no clue it was even in the works, so it was a huge surprise. I watched the intro in awe and then selected Mudman. It was the same magic I felt with part one.

Sad but true, one night in 1993 when I was at a friend's house at his party, I found myself zoning out thinking, "Ryu's Dragon Punch would get creamed by Hanzou's. Hanzou has a protective dragon spirit around his body while Ryu's body is bare and vulnerable. I thought about how Mudman would totally own Blanka's ass.

WH games had THAT MAGIC to them... the kind of magic where you daydreamed about playing 'em when you weren't.

Everyone has a special game like that. It's a good feeling.

I don't mean to sound jaded but I have not gotten that feeling with many games, much less "today's games."

Anyway, I hope we haven't seen the last of the Heroes... however bleak a chance for a return may seem... I shall always believe one day they may find their time machine and come back
 

leGionellz

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Congrats to one of my favorite fighting series ever.

Part one wasn't that great. but from then on, it only got better and better buttrock buttrock

I love WH2Jet, it's a great game.

Too bad people are so narrow minded about that game.. No matter what, they will say it sucks anyways, without even giving it a honest chance crying

Anyways, thanks for letting us know. I'll play some WH tonight to celebrate it's birthday. Hope there will be more people who do the same :D
 

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Rock on, Steve!! buttrock

A happy birthday to the WH series that gave me countless hours of fun!

My first chara also was Brocken, looked at the game, played it with Brocken and was a fan ever since. I remember the loud bell sounds after the matches, the weird shouts of Rasputin and the stage borders with spikes and all... aah, the memories...!

Yes, the WH series gets bashed a lot. IMO, it's one of the most underrated fighters ever, specially WHP, but also WH2Jet which I really like. Most ppl say it's too slow, others say the charas suck (well, some of them do...) or that Rasputin would be the gayest piece of pixels they've ever seen, but that's part of the "rough beauty" of the game.

I must admit that I have a faible for ADK. They often get ridiculed for their simple old-school graphics, but most of their games are little gems, like Gan Gan, Raguy, Crossed Swords, Magician Lord, Ninja Commando and specially Ninja Master's, Twinkle Star Sprites and the WH series. Ninja Master's (and prolly TSS too) was made in cooperation with SNK staff, but since ADK had their hq in the same building complex as SNK, they did a lot of dev work in mixed teams.
 

TriShield

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WH was a promising series, but the only one somewhat worth the materials it was made with is World Heroes 2.

The rest were severely broken in one way or another, the SNES and Genesis both had loads of fighters that looked, played, and sounded better than the original World Heroes.
 
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