emulation and your take on it

Runner · Mar 18, 2002

I have always enjoyed NeoGeo games at the arcade but I could never really afford a NeoGeo AES system. Recently I downloaded a NeoGeo emulator and some roms along with it. I'd like to buy an AES but I can't spend much money right now so I figured this could be the next best thing until I have collected enough cash to get an AES. Am I some kind of thief? How do you feel about emulation in general?

P.S. I'm new here, hi!

pyrokilla · Mar 18, 2002

Unfortunatly this is the case im guessin with all "rom collectors" I used to be the same till i sold my comp, now i have spare money (no comp = no upgrades) so i can buy neo stuff

MarrymeMai · Mar 18, 2002

ROMS make Neo games look bad. Seriously. Buy the real deal. <img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" />

Mystery · Mar 19, 2002

Saying that you cannot afford a home system is no excuse for stealing it (and you actually do this by using roms).
If you really want a NeoGeo try saving money. It may take a long time but you're definitely doing the right thing.
And don't say it's too expensive! Go for MVS if you want to have the games for low prices. Affordable for everyone without loss of quality.

The best thing to do until you got your NeoGeo is NOT to waste the time using roms.

oh and P.S.: Hi and welcome to the forums

Tora Kouhi · Mar 19, 2002

You have broken 8th SNKment. Though shalt not play rom of game you don't have.

I broke it once but I redeemed myself by buying real version.

JLukas · Mar 19, 2002

You get what you pay for. An emulator on a computer will never compare to the real deal. Do your best to save up money.

CHRiZ-77 · Mar 19, 2002

If you´re using only Emulator you aren´t welcome, but you could get the Real ONE...
Then you´re welcome in these forums...

[ March 19, 2002: Message edited by: CHRiZ-77 ]

mitsuagi · Mar 19, 2002

...get the REAL thing...

...if you can't afford AES go with MVS, much cheaper...

ttooddddyy · Mar 19, 2002

Nothing wrong with emulation, I prefer playing the real thing though.

RabbitTroop · Mar 19, 2002

This is a pretty heated discussion on these forums, and usually creates some very colorful and vicious arguments. Basically, the stance here is, if you do it, don't really talk about it or ask about. After saying that, the only reason I bought the majority of my games was thanks to emulation. I think it can be used for good and bad. There are those that have no intent to ever pay for something and just use the roms as free neo geo... well, those people are obviously wrong. However, there are also those who play the roms and buy the games they like... actually quite a few people here have admitted to that. Well good luck on your stay here, we may not be willing to discuss Neo Rage with you, but if you need help finding a way to real hardware and getting into the Neo... well, you should find this group very accommodating.

-Nick

ttooddddyy · Mar 19, 2002

Going off the subject here.
I wonder what the anti-emu lobby think of playing games like Galaga, Asteroids or Space Invaders on Mame ???
Is it Neo-Geo games they dont like emulated or classic games in general, have you guys tried getting hold of a Galaga boardset.
Need to look at the big picture when it comes to emus.

Robert · Mar 19, 2002

Newbie+emulation post=Fake account?

Scalpeur · Mar 19, 2002

Newbie+emulation post=Fake account?
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I agree with you Robert!
<img src="graemlins/shame.gif" border="0" alt="[Shame]" />

Supreme Gozita · Mar 19, 2002

well ive always been a fan of emulation....but not of NG games. Those games u can actually buy and have just the real arcade thing. But I use emus/roms for more the old arcade and Capcom games that you can no longer find. Like The Simpsons arcade game and the X-men arcade game. Also, alot of the Capcom fighters(VS. series, MSH, etc.) are really expensive! Why buy a whole bunch of arcade machines?! With NG u can buy ONE arcade machine and have tons of games for that one machine.

buster_broon · Mar 19, 2002

Originally posted by ttooddddyy:
Nothing wrong with emulation, I prefer playing the real thing though.<hr></blockquote>

I totally agree with ttooddddyy on this subject.

I still believe that most people on this forums have an emulator of some sort.

What the guys are saying is true - emulation will and does not come close to the real deal but you are not stealing if the company is no longer making profit from a game.

If you were downloading KOF2001 - i would say <img src="graemlins/shame.gif" border="0" alt="[Shame]" />

But if its game like Nam + Robo army i dont think its a problem

bishounen · Mar 19, 2002

To be honest I actually bought a Neo*Geo AES (+ games) to justify the keeping of Neo*Geo roms and emulators on my computer.

If it weren't for emulation, I wouldn't know which games I might enjoy and which games I wouldn't.

Also, even though I have the home system, I don't use it at all. It's still in the box, and I play the games on my comp.

LONG LIVE SHIN NIHON KIKAKU!!

MKL · Mar 19, 2002

Originally posted by Supreme Gozita:
I use emus/roms for more the old arcade and Capcom games that you can no longer find. Like The Simpsons arcade game and the X-men arcade game.<hr></blockquote>

For your information Capcom games, new and old, are by no means difficult to find... The Simpsons? On Ebay time and again... no cheap excuses, please! Be honest and admit that in your view what holds for Neo Geo does not hold for other games...

xonox · Mar 19, 2002

It's all because of emulation that i became addicted to neo-geo, otherwise i would have never played cool games like metal slug. Now that i have money (ie working 'cause i finished college...) i can buy the games. I still play some stuff on emus, because i don't have enough money to buy all the games i like right now... I do buy the games i tend to play the most tho. As well, emulators can be a way of trying something before buying it. I am against playing more recent games tho. I'd let at least 2-3 years before a game is emulated...

achika · Mar 19, 2002

Whoa, first off, back off MLK. I agree that the games may indeed be easy to find, but I've seen both the simpsons and x-men go for quite a bit of money on ebay. So please don't get too trigger happy.

I'm not fond of the idea of emulation, and I won't emulate and unless something like the Sega Smash pack or Atari Anniversary pack comes along, I don't go for it. These games are made by the licences for sale again. For me, it's better to get the real game and play it how it was meant to be played. I've gotten around the cabinet situation by buying a Supergun. It's worked for my NEO, Capcom, and Neo 64 cravings.

I totally agree with Mystery anyway. MVS is much cheaper than AES, and some games are only available for the MVS (and I'm sure AES likewise). And the disclaimer on the ROMs is that you are supposed to own the game and system before emulating it. If you really want an AES, go look for some desperate person that is just trying to pay some bills, he might have one. Try visiting those flea markets, while some of them may be nasty and filthy, they do hold stuff that works, if you know where to look.

MKL · Mar 19, 2002

Originally posted by achika:
Whoa, first off, back off MLK. I agree that the games may indeed be easy to find, but I've seen both the simpsons and x-men go for quite a bit of money on ebay. So please don't get too trigger happy.<hr></blockquote>

So the "rule" is: if it's expensive it may well be emulated, right? Hope you apply it consistently because I've heard that Neo games aren't dirt cheap either...

[ March 19, 2002: Message edited by: MKL ]

Rade K · Mar 19, 2002

Originally posted by Tora Kouhi:
You have broken 8th SNKment. Though shalt not play rom of game you don't have.

I broke it once but I redeemed myself by buying real version.<hr></blockquote>

People who enjoy SNK's Neo Geo primarily through an Emulator end up sounding like and becoming somehting like Tora here.

Did you know that Tora thinks he is a girl? That's what happens when you play Roms.

Runner · Mar 19, 2002

I am saving up to buy an AES along with MOTW, almost halfway there

and for now I have deleted all the roms. I plan keep the emu and use roms to see if I like a game I'm about to get (and only keep them for the "legal" 24 hrs). I'm glad I found a forum with intillegent people ...GameFAQs... and I am a real newbie.

[ March 19, 2002: Message edited by: Runner ]

achika · Mar 19, 2002

I invite you to come and look at my computer MLK, I don't and have never used a rom/emulator. I never said emulation was alright for expensive games, but you better sure as shit save your money for those high priced games. I see no need for emulation, !<a href="http://vidgame0.tripod.com" target="_blank">since I've got anything I need at my call</a>. Oh, and I haven't seen as many Simpsons boards, as I have X-men, because I've been checking for capcom stuff for my CPS II. I guess my theory is the same for emulation as it is shoplifting: if you can't afford it, you don't need it!

Tora Kouhi · Mar 19, 2002

Originally posted by Rade Kuruc:


People who enjoy SNK's Neo Geo primarily through an Emulator end up sounding like and becoming somehting like Tora here.

Did you know that Tora thinks he is a girl? That's what happens when you play Roms.<hr></blockquote>

Don't listen to this stupid kurakkaa. he keeps spreading lies about me every chance he gets trying to defame me. I don't even support emulations or roms and I never did. I got a massive load of real games that I either bought myself or got via five finger discount.

Caris Nautilus · Mar 19, 2002

Originally posted by Tora Kouhi:


Don't listen to this stupid kurakkaa. he keeps spreading lies about me every chance he gets trying to defame me. I don't even support emulations or roms and I never did. I got a massive load of real games that I either bought myself or got via five finger discount.<hr></blockquote>

You fucking liar, not only are you a hairy assed man with an identity problem, your a bad liar.

Your ass was in the gameplay forum bragging about beating the Zupapa rom awhile back! LMAO.

[ March 19, 2002: Message edited by: Drift King EX ]

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