Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon in Master List

evil wasabi · Jul 18, 2003

So should this be noted as released software for the Neo Geo? Granted its not licensed, but its easily of no higher quality with respect that its likely all EPROMs than Diggerman. Plus it probobly plays better since its at least an SNK product hack. Anyway was wondering what the requirements are to be listed as a released game vs. a MUGEN put on eproms and boards.

Lagduf · Jul 18, 2003

lithy:
So should this be noted as released software for the Neo Geo?

No.

evil wasabi · Jul 19, 2003

Lagduf:

lithy:
So should this be noted as released software for the Neo Geo?

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No.

Durr care to elaborate? I said released not official, I equate it to Diggerman which holds a spot on the master list.

ResO · Jul 19, 2003

I think it should have a place in the masterlist due to the fact that the devolper, PhenixSoft, proudly marks it's name and website on the cart label and in-game. I must say that they must be the boldest bootleggers that i've seen so far. Also, to be completely honest, this game looks really cool. It's like a color blind person developed a KOF Remix.

TheBigBB · Jul 19, 2003

No, this doesn't belong in the master list. Diggerman is an original game. This is not. Am I wrong? Doesn't matter if the hack job plays better or whatever.

ResO · Jul 19, 2003

You call MetalSlug X an original game? Just because it is an official hack job, it doesn't make it much different.

Lagduf · Jul 19, 2003

dmhawkmoon:
No, this doesn't belong in the master list. Diggerman is an original game. This is not. Am I wrong? Doesn't matter if the hack job plays better or whatever.

DMHawkmoon is right. This is just a silly hack job.

Kid Aphex · Jul 19, 2003

It's really stupid this is even up for debate.
One would figure common-sense would have some common-PLACE in the world today...but I guess not.

Please people...don't LITTER on the masterlist by including someone's piece of shit. It's just a stupid idea, period.

HPMAN · Jul 19, 2003

Diggerman is homebrew and is in the master list.

AES Zintrick is a hack and it's in the master list.

Anyway Master list is so full of errors it's laughable.

Rade K · Jul 19, 2003

Maybe we could do a seperate section of the master list. Where these unique hacks and strange protos could be recognized and ridiculed.

It's always good to have a complete knowledge archived of all things neo, even if it is silly and trash...and a hack-job.

Setsuna1982 · Jul 19, 2003

ResOGlas:
You call MetalSlug X an original game? Just because it is an official hack job, it doesn't make it much different.

X It's not a hack.

X is Metal Slug 2 using Metal Slug 3 engine. They used X to see how good will run MS3 before making the game.

Also in MSX you can use the helicopter and play lots of levels of MS3 and fight enemies like snails, piranhas etc...

and analyzing teh romz you can find the tiles for enemies such the first boss of MS3, the President P.O.W. , a hidden "Stage Select" menu, mobile satellite and sprites not used in ANY game.

MSX is much more than just and upgraded MS2

Amano Jacu · Jul 19, 2003

ResOGlas:
You call MetalSlug X an original game? Just because it is an official hack job, it doesn't make it much different.

According to this, most KoFs and even MS4 shouldn't be there as they reuse a lot of sprites. MSX is an OFFICIAL enhanced version of MS2, and using the debug settings you can acces hidden stages from MS1 among other strange paranoias.

Anyway I do agree that it should be mentioned somewhere, among Diggerman, although it is a different case as it is a hacked version of a previous MVS games, while Diggerman was more "original".

By the way, the Phenixsoft is a joke, they don't exist and the domain name was never registered.

DangerousK · Jul 19, 2003

ResOGlas:
You call MetalSlug X an original game? Just because it is an official hack job, it doesn't make it much different.

<img src="http://www.ls1.com/forums/images/smilies/wtf.gif" alt=" - " />

Dude, try playing Metal Slug X before spouting off some random dumbass statement. oh_no

Rade K · Jul 19, 2003

Setsuna1982:

ResOGlas:
You call MetalSlug X an original game? Just because it is an official hack job, it doesn't make it much different.

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X It's not a hack.

X is Metal Slug 2 using Metal Slug 3 engine. They used X to see how good will run MS3 before making the game.

Also in MSX you can use the helicopter and play lots of levels of MS3 and fight enemies like snails, piranhas etc...

and analyzing teh romz you can find the tiles for enemies such the first boss of MS3, the President P.O.W. , a hidden "Stage Select" menu, mobile satellite and sprites not used in ANY game.

MSX is much more than just and upgraded MS2

I remember when EW was telling me about this and how he used the debug to get it all and whatnot. Does anyone have pictures of this stuff for me to see. It'd be nice.

Amano Jacu · Jul 19, 2003

Rade Kuruc:
I remember when EW was telling me about this and how he used the debug to get it all and whatnot. Does anyone have pictures of this stuff for me to see. It'd be nice.

Yup, I saw all that by using the unibios with my MVS MSX. There are some pics here:
<a href="http://spoonman.roarvgm.com/neogeo/neo-mod.htm" target="_blank">http://spoonman.roarvgm.com/neogeo/neo-mod.htm</a>
I guess you can try the game with TEH ROMZZ with a debug or unibios in the emulator, as long as you are comfortable with that :rolleyes:

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TheBigBB · Jul 19, 2003

ResOGlas:
You call MetalSlug X an original game? Just because it is an official hack job, it doesn't make it much different.

If it's official then it's not a hack job. SNK legally owned MS2. The guys who worked on MS2 probably worked on MSX even. A remake is a lot different than a hack job. Can't you see the difference?

TheBigBB · Jul 19, 2003

HPMAN:
Diggerman is homebrew and is in the master list.

AES Zintrick is a hack and it's in the master list.

Anyway Master list is so full of errors it's laughable.

The actual game Zintrick isn't a hack job, though, is it?

Just because there are already errors on the list doesn't mean that this should go up too. We should strive to eliminate the stupid crap, not add more. Making a list of unofficial shit is a good idea, though, so people have something to reference....

Tarma · Jul 19, 2003

ResOGlas:
You call MetalSlug X an original game? Just because it is an official hack job, it doesn't make it much different.

You think MSX is a hack job???

Just goes to prove my thoughts on you were right - you're a fucking idiot.

Go sign up to the *** Information Exchange - you and Leslie M Collins should get on famously - he's a moron as well.

HPMAN · Jul 19, 2003

dmhawkmoon:

HPMAN:
Diggerman is homebrew and is in the master list.

AES Zintrick is a hack and it's in the master list.

Anyway Master list is so full of errors it's laughable.

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The actual game Zintrick isn't a hack job, though, is it?

No, CD version is original, but I wrote AES Zintrick

Rade K · Jul 19, 2003

HPMAN:

dmhawkmoon:

HPMAN:
Diggerman is homebrew and is in the master list.

AES Zintrick is a hack and it's in the master list.

Anyway Master list is so full of errors it's laughable.

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The actual game Zintrick isn't a hack job, though, is it?

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No, CD version is original, but I wrote AES Zintrick

How difucult was it? I've never plays Zintrick, but does it have a CD soundtrack? And if so, how did you port that to cart.

HPMAN · Jul 19, 2003

CD tracks are missing.

As most of the sound effects.

It's a few hours hack.

Shito · Jul 19, 2003

HPMAN:
Diggerman is homebrew and is in the master list.

AES Zintrick is a hack and it's in the master list.

Anyway Master list is so full of errors it's laughable.

in fact those two need to be removed, not this new hack needs to be added. annoyed

HPMAN · Jul 19, 2003

Shito:

HPMAN:
Diggerman is homebrew and is in the master list.

AES Zintrick is a hack and it's in the master list.

Anyway Master list is so full of errors it's laughable.

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in fact those two need to be removed, not this new hack needs to be added. annoyed

No problem, I don't really care as long as master list keeps a certain line : include hacks or not, not just half of them.

Maybe adding an hack section to the list would do, after all these "things" exists, official or not.

Rade K · Jul 19, 2003

Do you think it would be possible to hack Gunstar Heroes, and run it on Neo CD??

Or is that just out there?

HPMAN · Jul 19, 2003

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