A deal with the devil?

Hitmanxlt · Aug 15, 2003

So I put up post about wanting some certain MVS games on the SNK Neo-geo wanted section....only 2 minutes later I get an IM from a suspisciously familiar AIM SN.....The following conversation ensues....

Ikaruga Radiant: hi
Ikaruga Radiant: hows iy going
Ikaruga Radiant: how is it going i mean
MeltDown96: pretty good....how bout you?
Ikaruga Radiant: im fine
Ikaruga Radiant: i noticed you were looking for some mvs games
Ikaruga Radiant: I can help you with some
MeltDown96: whoa quick response haha
Ikaruga Radiant: kof 94,95,98, samurai shodown 4 and puzzle bobble
Ikaruga Radiant: yeah
MeltDown96: whats your name on the board?
Ikaruga Radiant: i want to inform you ahead of time Im ethe entity known as japhei
Ikaruga Radiant: and do not believe all the bad stories you hear
Ikaruga Radiant: cuz they are exagerrated beyond my belief
MeltDown96: ahh japhei.....I really dont want to belive them man, but i can't really aford mistakes either my friend
Ikaruga Radiant: i hear you
Ikaruga Radiant: thats why I want to take it slow
Ikaruga Radiant: I can offer you a samurai shodown 4 original with mini marquee replacement for 36.50 shipped
Ikaruga Radiant: i would hope if you have a good transaction you would do business again
MeltDown96: hmmm.....I dunno man....
Ikaruga Radiant: how do you normally pay?
MeltDown96: usually via paypal....or cod orders from some
Ikaruga Radiant: ok
Ikaruga Radiant: i was just thinking of a way we could work a deal where you are comfortable
Ikaruga Radiant: like I can ship first if you can promise to pay me upon receipt
Ikaruga Radiant: i am also paypal verified as well and ship only priority
MeltDown96: well thats a definate...
Ikaruga Radiant: insured with delivery confirmation
MeltDown96: if you shipped first I would definitally pay you....
Ikaruga Radiant: ok
Ikaruga Radiant: what carts were you interested in?
Ikaruga Radiant: did you want a kof 98?
MeltDown96: not to mention give you some good review on N-G.com
MeltDown96: how much would you figure in for kof98, ss4 and Puzzle bobble?
MeltDown96: Only condition I have is that I would be able to return the carts if not satisfied...thats my only catch
Ikaruga Radiant: why wouldnt you be satisfied
Ikaruga Radiant: the samurai 4 is 36
Ikaruga Radiant: kof 98 50
Ikaruga Radiant: puzzle bobble is 40
MeltDown96: well......you know the claims of you selling boots....
Ikaruga Radiant: i must tell you though the puzzle bobble has some eproms because it was a repair job
Ikaruga Radiant: also it has SNK pcbs
Ikaruga Radiant: the rest of the games are 100 percent original
MeltDown96: well I've heard of many Puzzle bobble's w/ eproms...
Ikaruga Radiant: shipping on each cart is 7
Ikaruga Radiant: so 40,50,30 and 21
Ikaruga Radiant: 142
Ikaruga Radiant: total
Ikaruga Radiant: i do not sell boots
MeltDown96: ok ok....here's my deal....You ship me the Puzzle bobble....and when it gets here, and is in good condition, I'll send you the money, and If i'm completly satisfied I will buy the others from you and throw in a little extra cash for dealing on the first cart
Ikaruga Radiant: the total for puzzle bobble would be 47 after shipping
MeltDown96: yea, I'll make it an even 50
Ikaruga Radiant: if you pay me 10 by paypal now Ill express it
MeltDown96: no need for the express
Ikaruga Radiant: if no priority is the way ill go
Ikaruga Radiant: do me a favor
MeltDown96: ?
Ikaruga Radiant: mail you add to Dvs03@aol.com
Ikaruga Radiant: and in the email please state the terms of the deal
MeltDown96: Ok
Ikaruga Radiant: I ship first and you pay upon receipt
Ikaruga Radiant: and hopefully this will be the start of a great relationship
MeltDown96: I'll writeup the agreement and send it to you....we'll agree on me paying 50 bucks when the item arrives and I'm happy with it..

Now since MR. Japhei wants to deal with me...I'm going to try his method and I have a written email going to him describing the deal to a T.

As soon as I finish the Email I'll post it and let you guys see....I'll also keep you posted on how this deal with the devil goes

Lagduf · Aug 15, 2003

Someone had to say it:

If you play with fire you're going to get burned.

Hitmanxlt · Aug 15, 2003

Below is a copy of the contract entered into by Japhei and Myself as of tonight for him to send me a copy of Puzzle Bobble, which I will inspect upon arrival and, if completly satisfied that the board is original, and not a boot, then I will pay the amount asked by Japhei
_________________________________________________
This Email is to state the terms and agreements set forth on Friday 8/15/03, at Approxamitally 8:12 PM EST.

The Order is as Follows:

1 Puzzle Bobble MVS Cart.......$40.00
Shipping for MVS Cart.......... $7.00

The Transaction agreements are also as follows, and are non-negotiable, and unchangable after this message has been sent.

Japhei will ship the MVS cart and upon receipt and a status check of the MVS cart, I, Hunter Pridgen, will send $50.00 to .

The conditions that must be met are as follows:

Cart must present itself to be a legit SNK made cartridge, this such cart has been said to have eproms on it, but to be an official stamped SNK cartridge. If the I, the buyer, feel in any way that this is not an original cart or is in some way bootleged, the cart will be sent back, with not cost incured by the buyer. If the cart arrives in a Non-functioning manner, then the buyer will also have the right to return the cart with no incured cost.

As a condition to make this deal resonable for the seller, I, Hunter Pridgen, also known as Hitmanxlt to the Neo Geo community, will leave a positive feedback on Neo-Geo.com if the terms and conditions of this agreement are met. I will be posting all information of this deal on Neo-geo.com to let the community know about the deal and how my dealings go with Japhei. A word of warning, If I am not completly satisfied with the product when it is aquired, I will also post completly negative feedback, and Will help any person in the Neo-geo Community with any small claims or problems they have with Japhei.

Hunter Pridgen.

_____________________________________________________________

Howdoin · Aug 15, 2003

Well at least he is not trying to hide who he is...
But the devil never hides its face... just read the small prints on your pact

Hitmanxlt · Aug 15, 2003

I'm sure I'm to get burned, but when that happens....I actually will get results, because onf of the most wealthy people in his home area, is quite a good friend of mine, with quite a few lawyer friends...

Hitmanxlt · Aug 15, 2003

well the pact was made by me, so I'm sure that the fine print wont be a problem....he might also be getting a notarized copy of this in his mailbox soon

bokmeow · Aug 15, 2003

Watch out for his fork man, it's scalding hot.

Howdoin · Aug 15, 2003

Youmust be the devils son Hitmanxlt... just kiddin' (I am just happy to be back online after a fun 24hours in the dark

Hitmanxlt · Aug 15, 2003

Howdoin, you've brought up the one thing that i'm afraid of by doing this deal...I'm hoping that I dont become associated as being japhei or one of his lackies by doing this...I just want Puzzle bobble HAHA, and if he can sell me a legit one at 40 bucks, while shipping it to me first...i'm willing to give it a try

Jedite · Aug 15, 2003

It's not that you become one of his lackeys, but you take the risk of being scammed, but, don't say we didn't warn you. But, if you get scammed, then, it's not our problem. And, don't come crying to us that Japhei scammed you. Like I said, if you want to take the risk of getting scammed, then go for it, but, you're taking a gamble. Also, Japhei has been known to sell bootleg MVS carts and also Puzzle Bobble is one of the most well known MVS carts for bootlegs, so, if I were you I wouldn't deal with him, even I haven't dealt with him myself, but, it's better to be safe than sorry. So, in my opinon, don't do it. When I buy something from someone online, I always get references from members or feedbacks.

Hitmanxlt · Aug 15, 2003

Trust me Jedite....i wont come crying to you guys if i get scammed....just cause i know what risks I run with this....I'm actually looking at it, as a chance to take this bastard down if he does scam me......

But, truthfully I think the contract scared him off because he hasn't made any other responses since he got a copy of that

Jedite · Aug 15, 2003

That's a good thing, I dunno why he IM's people, does he have anything else do wit his time? Shouldn't he worry about the deals that he makes on Ebay under his mom's account? He dosen't worry about them because he jus' receives the money and says to the buyer, I never received the money, and therefore I cannot send the item. I use to go on AIM and he used to IM me. He asked me "Do I collect MVS?" and I said "No." He never reponded back because he couldn't do any business wit me because he only sells bootleg MVS carts. He's a well-known bootleg seller. Stay clear away from him. Find a Puzzle Bobble MVS cart elsewhere, Japhei will only take you a ride for your money. You can ask so many people on here, and they've been scammed or knows somebody that got scammed by him.

Jedite · Aug 15, 2003

If you want to see who you're dealing with. Here's a link to a post, and which has links to his Ebay feedbacks and posts.<a href="http://www.neo-geo.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=012243" target="_blank">http://www.neo-geo.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=012243</a>

Michael Yagami · Aug 15, 2003

Do the deal if you wish, but you will find no sympathy here when your are screwed over. And don't even think about posting a "Japhei=Scammer" thread. You make your bed, you lay in it.

Mike

Jedite · Aug 15, 2003

Michael Yagami:
Do the deal if you wish, but you will find no sympathy here when your are screwed over. And don't even think about posting a "Japhei=Scammer" thread. You make your bed, you lay in it.

Mike

Ain't that the truth, but, if he's stubborn enough to do business wit Japhei, then, let him go thru the deal and find out the hard way.

evil wasabi · Aug 15, 2003

Hell I'd do some 'business' with Japhei if it meant him sending first...

Of course maybe my payment back to him might get 'lost' but we will never know.

Hitmanxlt · Aug 15, 2003

Hey guys....I know very well who this kid is....I mean look at my registration date...I've been here quite a while....the only reason way i was willing to deal w/ japhei was if he sent first and all that, which was described in the email that I posted.

If he ships the product first, and it is in fact not a bootleg, then I pay him...if its a boot, he gets the cart sent back. If he doesn't ship the cart at all....I'm out nothing...If its a boot I'm out nothing, because I just send it back, free of charge since I work somewhere that ships UPS, free for employee's.

Basically I'm testing him to see if he'll be honest...and when he's not, he can get burned.

BeefJerky · Aug 15, 2003

lithy:
Hell I'd do some 'business' with Japhei if it meant him sending first...

Of course maybe my payment back to him might get 'lost' but we will never know.

tickled Fuckin' A! Put that bitch through the same shit he put a lot of people through. Maybe then he'll straighten up.

Average Joe · Aug 15, 2003

Hitmanxlt:
So I put up post about wanting some certain MVS games on the SNK Neo-geo wanted section....only 2 minutes later I get an IM from a suspisciously familiar AIM SN.....The following conversation ensues....

Ikaruga Radiant: hi
Ikaruga Radiant: hows iy going
Ikaruga Radiant: how is it going i mean
MeltDown96: pretty good....how bout you?
Ikaruga Radiant: im fine
Ikaruga Radiant: i noticed you were looking for some mvs games
Ikaruga Radiant: I can help you with some
MeltDown96: whoa quick response haha
Ikaruga Radiant: kof 94,95,98, samurai shodown 4 and puzzle bobble
Ikaruga Radiant: yeah
MeltDown96: whats your name on the board?
Ikaruga Radiant: i want to inform you ahead of time Im ethe entity known as japhei
Ikaruga Radiant: and do not believe all the bad stories you hear
Ikaruga Radiant: cuz they are exagerrated beyond my belief
MeltDown96: ahh japhei.....I really dont want to belive them man, but i can't really aford mistakes either my friend
Ikaruga Radiant: i hear you
Ikaruga Radiant: thats why I want to take it slow
Ikaruga Radiant: I can offer you a samurai shodown 4 original with mini marquee replacement for 36.50 shipped
Ikaruga Radiant: i would hope if you have a good transaction you would do business again
MeltDown96: hmmm.....I dunno man....
Ikaruga Radiant: how do you normally pay?
MeltDown96: usually via paypal....or cod orders from some
Ikaruga Radiant: ok
Ikaruga Radiant: i was just thinking of a way we could work a deal where you are comfortable
Ikaruga Radiant: like I can ship first if you can promise to pay me upon receipt
Ikaruga Radiant: i am also paypal verified as well and ship only priority
MeltDown96: well thats a definate...
Ikaruga Radiant: insured with delivery confirmation
MeltDown96: if you shipped first I would definitally pay you....
Ikaruga Radiant: ok
Ikaruga Radiant: what carts were you interested in?
Ikaruga Radiant: did you want a kof 98?
MeltDown96: not to mention give you some good review on N-G.com
MeltDown96: how much would you figure in for kof98, ss4 and Puzzle bobble?
MeltDown96: Only condition I have is that I would be able to return the carts if not satisfied...thats my only catch
Ikaruga Radiant: why wouldnt you be satisfied
Ikaruga Radiant: the samurai 4 is 36
Ikaruga Radiant: kof 98 50
Ikaruga Radiant: puzzle bobble is 40
MeltDown96: well......you know the claims of you selling boots....
Ikaruga Radiant: i must tell you though the puzzle bobble has some eproms because it was a repair job
Ikaruga Radiant: also it has SNK pcbs
Ikaruga Radiant: the rest of the games are 100 percent original
MeltDown96: well I've heard of many Puzzle bobble's w/ eproms...
Ikaruga Radiant: shipping on each cart is 7
Ikaruga Radiant: so 40,50,30 and 21
Ikaruga Radiant: 142
Ikaruga Radiant: total
Ikaruga Radiant: i do not sell boots
MeltDown96: ok ok....here's my deal....You ship me the Puzzle bobble....and when it gets here, and is in good condition, I'll send you the money, and If i'm completly satisfied I will buy the others from you and throw in a little extra cash for dealing on the first cart
Ikaruga Radiant: the total for puzzle bobble would be 47 after shipping
MeltDown96: yea, I'll make it an even 50
Ikaruga Radiant: if you pay me 10 by paypal now Ill express it
MeltDown96: no need for the express
Ikaruga Radiant: if no priority is the way ill go
Ikaruga Radiant: do me a favor
MeltDown96: ?
Ikaruga Radiant: mail you add to Dvs03@aol.com
Ikaruga Radiant: and in the email please state the terms of the deal
MeltDown96: Ok
Ikaruga Radiant: I ship first and you pay upon receipt
Ikaruga Radiant: and hopefully this will be the start of a great relationship
MeltDown96: I'll writeup the agreement and send it to you....we'll agree on me paying 50 bucks when the item arrives and I'm happy with it..

Now since MR. Japhei wants to deal with me...I'm going to try his method and I have a written email going to him describing the deal to a T.

As soon as I finish the Email I'll post it and let you guys see....I'll also keep you posted on how this deal with the devil goes

Whether you get legit carts or not is besides the point.

You are helping a known bootleg seller and scammer.

And if you willingly go into this deal, with all the information you have about him and his reputation, then you are almost as bad as he is.

Jedite · Aug 15, 2003

Matt Semmel:

lithy:
Hell I'd do some 'business' with Japhei if it meant him sending first...

Of course maybe my payment back to him might get 'lost' but we will never know.

Click to expand...

tickled Fuckin' A! Put that bitch through the same shit he put a lot of people through. Maybe then he'll straighten up.

Don't think so, once a scammer, always a scammer. The only way he'll probably change if he went to jail and get rammed by 20 convicts in the ass. That probably change his ways, but, if it dosen't, it'll hurt his ass for a week or so.

<small>[ August 15, 2003, 10:50 PM: Message edited by: Jedite ]</small>

Hitmanxlt · Aug 15, 2003

That would be great to just jip the hell outta him and be like "what cartridge", but knowing all our lucks we'd get taken to court over a fake Art of Fighting cart or soemthing stupid like that

Jedite · Aug 15, 2003

Jus' tell him, fuck off you scam motherfucker, I ain't dealing with a crooked bastard like yourself, and whenever, he IM's you, ignore his ass. He always says he never scammed anybody, look at his Ebay feedbacks, it tells everything. Also, a lot of people on these forums have been scammed by Japhei. Jus' find a Puzzle Bobble MVS cart elsewhere. It may be more money, but, you won't take as much of a risk of bein' scammed.

<small>[ August 15, 2003, 10:55 PM: Message edited by: Jedite ]</small>

Hitmanxlt · Aug 15, 2003

AverageJoe....IF, and its a big IF, I were to get a legit cart at a good deal, then how would that be helping a scammer? Its not like i'm helping him sell stuff and take people's money, I'm trying to get myself a good deal, and IF (once again a big one) he could provide me with a legit cart, at a good price, with him shipping the item first, then I believe that would qualify as a good deal. I dont see how that could make me as bad as him, honestly, I dispise bootleg games, I only want 100% legit SNK products to go in my cab, If he can so claim that the cart is 100% and I get it as that...then I have no problem paying him for it.

Jedite · Aug 15, 2003

Then, I pretty much guarn-damn-tee that you will send it back to him, because he's a well-known bootleg seller. You can't tell if it's a boot, jus' by looking at it. You have to open it up and look for yourself, to see if it's a boot.

Hitmanxlt · Aug 15, 2003

I know Jedite.....Once again look at when I registered...I've been around the Neo-geo Scene for quite some time. I'm also an A+ certified IT. I know my electronics

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