What makes SNK so wonderful?

On another board I'm having a bit of a debate. One of the mods is a huge Capcom fan and he keeps aruging with me that Capcom is the better company than SNK. I argue otherwise.

So I ask my fellow SNK gamers.. what makes SNK so great?

The first thing is the controls. The claim is 6 button is far greater because of combos and because the strong/forward buttons are just the right amount of power and speed. Even when I was playing SF II back when I was a teen I hated those two buttons. I always placed them on top and used my jab/short and fierce/roundhouse to make quick work of my opposition. Because of that he claimed that I couldn't play properly since I refused to acknowledge the "power" of the middle buttons.

Which is why I adore the simple, combo-tastic weak/strong punches and kicks of the SNK controller.

The next beef was the Neo Geo system. Now it got a bit serious... He said SNK screwed its fans with the system, but I know firsthand that many of you invested in the system and still buy games for it. If SNK was so selfish, then why are you guys even bothering to support them?

I say because it's for the quality of SNK gaming. I personally don't have a Neo Geo, although sometimes I wish I did. I want that Samurai Showdown RPG!!

Next up is the quality of graphics, sound, plot, and characters. I'm not a graphics whore, so even if the game graphics are shoddy, I'm still gonna play if the storyline in enveloping. I know of several games that have these really lovely graphics, but the game itself is horrible. Bottom line: never judge a game by graphics alone. wink

Sounds: SNK music is top-notch. 'Nuff said.

Plot and Characters: By far SNK has some of the most in-depth, thought-out, and amazing plots I have ever seen. I once tried to read the explanation of the Orochi saga.. and I had to stop because I was online for so damn long... and I still have to finish it! The characters for the most part (some are obvious ripoffs XD)are very original and have made their way into fighting game infamy. I have yet to see anyone as original as Iori or Setsuna.

And that's it for my rant/essay. What makes SNK wonderful for YOU?

You pretty much summed it up nicely wink

I wouldn't even bother argueing the never-ending
SNK Vs. Capcom arguement. No one can win, you will both lose b/c you can not get that time you spent debating it back.

We know you are right, isn't that what counts wink

What seals the deal for me is the attempt at originality. I dont recall SnK making a habit out of borrowing sprites from earlier sequals just to make a buck. Im not just talking about CvS either.
Anyone remember Resident Evil directors cut?
Guess im a little jaded by all the Super-Mega happy editions of Street Fighter 2. KoF might be getting up to '03 but at least it got to 3!

SongSiuHua:
What seals the deal for me is the attempt at originality. I dont recall SnK making a habit out of borrowing sprites from earlier sequals just to make a buck.

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Lol..

*looks at KOF & Metal Slug*


...Anyway, its all about badass big shit and the music.

Easy, Beautiful and cute babes in SNK fighting game.
Examples are Shermie, Mai, Blue mary, Yuri, Athena and many more... drool_2

For Capcom, the only womam fighter I remember is Chun-Li.
The rest all sucks....

Capcom does not have good character designer and thats why all their fighting game characters look like mutants or aliens after Super StreetfighterX.
eek_2

Both Capcom and SNK did release great games.

Music & design, well I believe it's a matter of personal opinion, you just can't argue blue is nicer than red...

Controllers, blah, SNK did "6 buttons" games (samurai spirits) and Capcom did 4 button games(Capcom vs SNK). It all depends how the game was designed and the control sheme.

SNK did some gaming gems but I thinks *most* of them are from the early days (90-94).

Capcom has more diverse games on home formats. SNK definitely stayed in the 16 bit days (in terms of company size, projects, ambition etc...) while Capcom evolved into the "new era" pretty well (Bio Hazard anyone ?)


Well, anyway both company gave us some good time in arcade and home
I mean, WAY more than THQ for example

Yeah but I feel more at home with SNK games. I started out as a Capcom person, but the moment Fygee showed me a bunch of KoF games, I was instantly hooked.

I guess I'm a huge sucker for more in-depth characters.

Just because shermie was created by SNK !!!!!!!


That s the only good answer !!! <img src="http://www.gamingmatrix.com/kofonline/Images/Animation/KOF2002/2k2Shermie9.gif" alt=" - " />

beautiful games, and an excellent hardcore fanbase, who have a passion for collecting neo geo

Stephane:
Just because shermie was created by SNK !!!!!!!


That s the only good answer !!! <img src="http://www.gamingmatrix.com/kofonline/Images/Animation/KOF2002/2k2Shermie9.gif" alt=" - " />

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Works for me.

It's all about the magic man.

SNK does it. People say SNK = Rehash... Capcom rehash even more ( 2D department here! ).

While they may say Capcom is better, it's not. It's way better in the 3D area. But SNK just leave them in the dust in 2D ownage.

Like this quote : Sega does what nintendon't.

SNK does what Capcom don't.
SNK = pure Magic.

And Snk doesn't need to get Marvel, X-men and other shit characters to make fun games. wink

It's just a great gaming company. They make some of their greatest fighting games and I think they give Capcom and Namco a run for their money. Too bad the company's dead, but we love their great games.

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I have to agree with what's been pointed out/said already Domino-chan. Unless it's the thrill of debate that's keeping you hanging in there, I'd just "let the baby have his bottle" and bow out. Let's face it, the guy obviously sounds like his mind's made up, and let's be honest, the Neo Geo fan base doesn't need the likes of him.

I mean, let the product speak for itself. If some geek-boy wants to argue that six buttons are better than four, let him yell it at the wall, we all know what works. If king-doofus wants to think that Ryu and Ken are God's gift to video games, let him have them.

It used to blow my mind how people could justify turning their nose up to superior product and creativity. Not just with Neo Geo, but with comics, music, movies, etc. Now I don't bother. Too many nice people who share the common interests to talk with than to waste time arguing with some numb-nuts who likes to play stupid.

But if you're still interested in why I like SNK, it's quality work, top-notch creativity, and dedication to what is tried and true, rather than to flash gimmicks. Sort of like that movie "Field of Dreams", SNK seemed like they followed that philosophy of "build it, and they will come". I think it's sad that SNK themselves couldn't stay afloat, but personally I think it was probably those Neo Geo lands and other ventures that hurt their finances. It's pretty obvious that the Neo Geo itself only gained more popularity and fans as time went on.

Just my two cents.

deffty:
Easy, Beautiful and cute babes in SNK fighting game.
Examples are Shermie, Mai, Blue mary, Yuri, Athena and many more... drool_2

For Capcom, the only womam fighter I remember is Chun-Li.
The rest all sucks....

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eek! What about Elena and Cammy?

For me it's the originality, nice concepts, storylines, gameplay styles, and just overall coolness.

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Atrophyed:
It's all about the magic man.

SNK does it. People say SNK = Rehash... Capcom rehash even more ( 2D department here! ).

While they may say Capcom is better, it's not. It's way better in the 3D area. But SNK just leave them in the dust in 2D ownage.

Like this quote : Sega does what nintendon't.

SNK does what Capcom don't.
SNK = pure Magic.

And Snk doesn't need to get Marvel, X-men and other shit characters to make fun games. wink

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shame Spider-Man is not a shit character

Personally I don't like SNK over Capcom and I don't like Capcom over SNK. They are equal in terms of 2D games to me. Anything else is obviously Capcom. I just love SNK nothing more. They make good games and I like some of the characters.

For me SNK means games that I can keep coming back to and leave with a smile on my face glee I never grow tired of playing my NGH and always, ALWAYS make time to play, albiet on DC or AES.

Long live SNK buttrock

What makes SNK wonderfull?

Simple...Joe Higashi mr_t ,Fatal Fury series & KoF buttrock

SNK vs. Capcom

Sega vs. Nintendo

Chocolate vs. Vanilla,

Bah, no one wins.

They both have elements to them that make them unique.

I prefer SNK, why?

It took a lot more risks with fighting games, and they play a hell of a lot better.

I just never got into the whole vs. thing with Capcom.

Capcom should develop it's own weapons based fighter and perhaps a new and original fighter (c'mon, SF is the only series you guys can do?).

To me, SNK did everything Capcom didn't.

the roker:


To me, SNK did everything Capcom didn't.

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That's more true than you'd believe, so I hear. The reason for so many rehashes for street fighter 2 was not because of outright laziness, but because the creators left and went to SNK. They then created Ryo and Robert who the creators say are everything they wanted Ryu and Ken to be.

...correct me if I'm wrong, please.

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Maybe it's because i'm color blind or something but I LOVE the colors (SS2 Nak's stage) and the Supers. There's nothing like those 2 minute, full screen, fire blazing, life sucking, OMG-You're-Toast, Drop-the-controller-because-it's-over-and-i'm-super-l33t DM's and SDMs!

'nuff said, case closed.

Well... I pleaded my case and said I was willing to stop the debating and go back to the topic on the particular board and...

They kept going.

They complained to me that I failed to show how SNK was better and even had the audacity to get into the technical side (as in the fighting engines and how new the hardware is). I don't understand any of that to begin with much less debating on it. Then they go on to tell me that I shouldn't go around saying that SNK music is better when I haven't even given Capcom music a chance. Actually I have, but I prefer Capcom tunes remixed and not the originals. "Mad Fantasy" however is mix CD worthy.

So I try to be diplomatic, allowing them to retain their opinions, and they stomp all over mine.

I still love SNK more however. buttrock

Domino-chan:
Well... I pleaded my case and said I was willing to stop the debating and go back to the topic on the particular board and...

They kept going.

They complained to me that I failed to show how SNK was better and even had the audacity to get into the technical side (as in the fighting engines and how new the hardware is). I don't understand any of that to begin with much less debating on it. Then they go on to tell me that I shouldn't go around saying that SNK music is better when I haven't even given Capcom music a chance. Actually I have, but I prefer Capcom tunes remixed and not the originals. "Mad Fantasy" however is mix CD worthy.

So I try to be diplomatic, allowing them to retain their opinions, and they stomp all over mine.

I still love SNK more however. buttrock

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Yeah, well, the people from the Flat Earth Society would probably argue to the death about how "stupid" you are for buying into a Round Earth conspiracy theory too.

Kinda' like stepping back and letting a mental patient go on believing he's a 747, you did the right thing.

Oh my god, I can't believe one debate could go on for so many years...

My point is this: Why sell yourself short? Both companies have made EXCELLENT fighting games and I play both with an equal amount of joy. Why hate something just because it's from a different company or on a different system? How much sense does that make? Video games are supposed be FUN. If you aren't having fun with it, play something else, but don't spend all your time on the Internet arguing with a complete stranger over what games are better than others. That's when you need to step back and take a seriously good look at your life. Maybe it's time to get out more...?

That's the problem though.

They aren't complete strangers. These people have been good friends of mine for a few years. The moment I start enjoying SNK games and telling them it's what I like, they get pissed off because they're so dedicated to Capcom.

So I just decided to stop posting until they respect my opinion. So no more of that place for a while and I'll stick to the boards with good, intelligent, civilized people.

And for the record, I think I'll go swimming today.