Any other MVS owners feel the burn?

MilkManX · Aug 13, 2003

Ok so SVC is not coming to MVS cart? I dont know about anyone else but that sucks. This might be the first time I have to buy a bootleg. Bummer.

Setsuna1982 · Aug 13, 2003

this is a new or a rumor?

mog · Aug 13, 2003

MilkManX:
Ok so SVC is not coming to MVS cart? I dont know about anyone else but that sucks. This might be the first time I have to buy a bootleg. Bummer.

OMG!!!! YOU KILLED THE NEO GEO!!!!!

Metal Fatigue · Aug 13, 2003

nope not feeling the burn at all despite its not totally official whether one is coming or not. still plenty of good games matrimelee etc... someone said it best playmore better not go cryin when the boots hit, they basically ordered a large quantity themselves by doing this.

Lee Gray · Aug 13, 2003

MilkManX:
Ok so SVC is not coming to MVS cart? I dont know about anyone else but that sucks. This might be the first time I have to buy a bootleg. Bummer.

If that were true playmore and whoever else can go fuck themselves as it will be the final straw considering how loyal we been, plus if it doesnt come out i am sure the bootleggers will have a whale of a time cashing in as i for one would buy the bootleg and the fact that a board of this game is already out for mvs so if worse comes to worse just buy the board and connect it as its still the same

Giga Power · Aug 13, 2003

I have faith that it will make it to the MVS, but I have to admit that faith is weak. I'm not mad as I can see why they are doing this, SVC is a very important title for them.
I'm just going to keep the hope alive, and if not it's no big deal. Least it's not running on hardware that would cost me and arm and a leg, I mean in a few months after the homecart is released it won't be pricey, and it's really just a jamma board.

Lagduf · Aug 13, 2003

MilkManX:
This might be the first time I have to buy a bootleg. Bummer.

Tsk. Tsk. I'll pretend you didn't say that. Buy the Homecart.

But uh on topic it would suck if SvC didn't have a MVS release. I would be dissapointed, and i'm sure a lot of arcades with mvs cabs would too.

[ August 13, 2003, 08:49 PM: Message edited by: Lagduf ]

EvilMike · Aug 13, 2003

MVS is great I have a 2-slot and a phantom. You guys have to relize. MVS CARTS ARE NOT MADE FOR US! Mvs carts are made to be sold to arcade ops for lots of money to make SNKP cash. Just because we get overstock and used carts for pennies means nothing. I'm sure the MVS secondary market did not even cross their minds when they decided to make SvC a PCB to start. "How loyal we've been" bah. The fact that SNKP still makes Homecarts shows how loyal THEY ARE TO US!

DanAdamKOF · Aug 13, 2003

Most people who have MVS play it through a cabinet or a supergun. Those people need to do a simple mod to put in a JAMMA/MVS speaker wiring switch. Phantom 1 and consolized MVS owners get the burn though.

I hope like 5 years from now the PCB is like $300 so I can afford it.

Jedite · Aug 13, 2003

EvilMike:
MVS is great I have a 2-slot and a phantom. You guys have to relize. MVS CARTS ARE NOT MADE FOR US! Mvs carts are made to be sold to arcade ops for lots of money to make SNKP cash. Just because we get overstock and used carts for pennies means nothing. I'm sure the MVS secondary market did not even cross their minds when they decided to make SvC a PCB to start. "How loyal we've been" bah. The fact that SNKP still makes Homecarts shows how loyal THEY ARE TO US!

Exactly, Playmore/SNK wants MVS cabs to used for business use, not for people that use MVS cabs for their own use. So, that's why that they didn't release the MVS cart by itself, so, they can sell more homecarts, homecarts don't sell as well as the MVS carts. Also, they don't want bootleggers making bootleg copies of SVC, because they know how highly anticipated game this is. So, they know that bootleggers are gonna try to make bootlegs left and right. So, to counter that, they released the SVC MVS as a MVS board, not as a seperate cartridge. So, the only way you can play SVC is to get another cab for jus' SVC. Sad but true.

Metal Fatigue · Aug 13, 2003

Jedite not sure why you keep saying this you dont need a new cab for the damn game, plug an play jamma. An like there wont be roms of it when the home cart is released?.

Howdoin · Aug 13, 2003

Can someone explain somehting to me?

Neo Store is selling SVC as a MVS cart so how is it that it not a "real"MVS?
Can I still use it in a candy cab or do I need to do soldering and other operation that I will not attempt in order to play in in a MVS cab?

whitey · Aug 13, 2003

you can unplug your MVS MB and plug the SVC board right into your cab.

daback-daboot · Aug 13, 2003

Lagduf:

MilkManX:
This might be the first time I have to buy a bootleg. Bummer.

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Tsk. Tsk. I'll pretend you didn't say that. Buy the Homecart.

But uh on topic it would suck if SvC didn't have a MVS release. I would be dissapointed, and i'm sure a lot of arcades with mvs cabs would too.

Alot of us with MVS DON'T have an AES, and as far as I know there is no AES / MVS conversions, like a reverse phantom 1. As for the bootleg purchases, its funny that people can't even trust a low meg count bootleg to work right, but they will trust a bootleg replicating the supposed highest meg count to date? Take note Playmore: WE WANT IT THAT BAD.
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RabbitTroop · Aug 13, 2003

The truth is... and here it is kiddies in all its majesty:

Stop making MVS carts, and what is the point of using the MVS hardware? The original idea was, there was a large install base, it was cheap... and they knew how to do it. Now, with these single boards, why bother with MVS at all. Why not just release a custom chipset for each game, or rev up the system it is on? What we are seeing is the first step to kill the MVS once and for all... once MVS is dead... bye bye home system. This is plain and simple.

This is not something I am 100% against, but, that is not what this discussion is about. The main idea is, if SNK doesn't see fit to support the MVS cart system, there is no need to continue to support the MVS architecture... I can see them moving on soon after this. Sure we can all replace our MVS boards with this JAMMA board… but since I have to do that, I would expect to be getting some benefit from the swap… Yet nothing… Pointless. How again is this stopping bootlegging? OK, why doesn’t a Hong Kong shop just release a hacked all in one board? The beginning of the end, if you will, is nigh then we may all think,

-Nick

$hockwave · Aug 13, 2003

if this is true that they are not making an mvs cart of it and just the pcb (that really sucks) but i was hoping shortly after the realese or at the realese on the homecart they would realese the mvs cart could we atleast have an mvs version be able to purchase online or somthin i would just prefer to play with my arcade machine than my home system.

and if playmore wants to stop piracy than atleast let the the people that support the system still get it because alot of the others like me play more on mvs than on aes.

kyo geo · Aug 14, 2003

EvilMike:
MVS is great I have a 2-slot and a phantom. You guys have to relize. MVS CARTS ARE NOT MADE FOR US!

Amen! And AMEN again! MVS owners have NO RIGHT WHATSOEVER to complain about the possibilty of no mvs cart release! For christ sake, think of the amount of mvs only titles that never made it ot the AES. Find a way round it, theres always a way. If you have a phantom, you can buy the home cart. If youre playing on a cabinet or supergun, use the bare pcb. Either way, you will get to play the game, so consider yourselves lucky.

daback-daboot · Aug 14, 2003

kyo geo:

EvilMike:
MVS is great I have a 2-slot and a phantom. You guys have to relize. MVS CARTS ARE NOT MADE FOR US!

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Amen! If you have a phantom, you can buy the home cart. If youre playing on a cabinet or supergun, use the bare pcb. Either way, you will get to play the game.

If you have a phantom, you can buy the homecart? Could someone explain the logic in that statement? Kyo must be an AES gamer for the heartbreaking comments. crying I still love you.

Amix · Aug 14, 2003

kyo geo:
If you have a phantom, you can buy the home cart. .

But I can buy the homecart w/out the phantom. What exactly are you saying? spock

nruva: Stop making sense, it is depressing.

lordnikon · Aug 14, 2003

People saying that SNK should release svc on MVS cause they have been "loyal SNK fans" I don't think is fare. SNK is a company, and they do have a budget. Its clear from the changes they have been making lately as well as the launch of snkworld.com, that Snk/Playmore is looking to become a stronger and more noticable presence in the gaming industry.

Snk is trying to maintain some level of control over the marketing and spread of svc chaos. They obviously have a plan, and they arn't sitting back in some cushy chair, not releasing svc on mvs just to spite its diehard fanbase.

All seems kinda selfish to me. Shouldn't people be out looking for an arcade that has svc chaos available? Can't be too impossible to find because my friend here in chicago just found one at the arcade near him. I'll probobly be cruising up there sometime with him in the next few weeks to bust at the arcades.

NeoGoaT · Aug 14, 2003

nruva:
once MVS is dead... bye bye home system. This is plain and simple. I can see them moving on soon after this. -Nick

Very true, unfortunately. All the recent and scheduled releases (incl the mythical MOTW 2) from SNKP were at least rumoured to have been in development before SNK bit the big one. It's logical to assume Playmore inherited at least partial code from SNK and have applied the finishing touches and released them. There can't be much commercial sense in building new releases from the ground up on 13 year old hardware. Now that they've shown their willingness to ditch the MVS cart system we're fucked. It'll be pcb's and ports from here on out (I really hope this isn't true).

Just polish up and release LB3 and Neo Poolmasters first and I wont mind too much.

kyo geo · Aug 14, 2003

Amix:

kyo geo:
If you have a phantom, you can buy the home cart. .

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But I can buy the homecart w/out the phantom. What exactly are you saying? spock

nruva: Stop making sense, it is depressing.

I guess what I meant was that if you have an AES with A phantom and collect predominantly MVS carts as they are cheaper, you can still play the AES version despite the fact you wont be able to pick up an mvs cart of said game. Bit confusing I guess, sorry guys, but the general message of no one losing out where SVC chaos is concerned still stands.

If they did an MVS release, it would more than likely be cheaper than the home cart at the time of the home cart release. Its plummeting in value already. So phantom money savers will have to splash out a little extra for the home cart release as oppossed to saving some cash by buying an mvs version. A good example of an AES owner saving money is/was MOTW.

[ August 14, 2003, 07:27 AM: Message edited by: kyo geo ]

Amix · Aug 14, 2003

lordnikon:
Can't be too impossible to find because my friend here in chicago just found one at the arcade near him.

It's not impossible; just a bitch. I have to drive two hours or more (depending on traffic) to get to the closet cab.

Nostromo · Aug 14, 2003

OK guys, picture this situation... It may not be far from the truth!

1. SVC Chaos is released as a hybrid board instead of a standard AES. Normal MVS cart is not coming out.

2. SVC Chaos is released for AES.

3. Bootleggers dump the AES cart and produce LOTS of bootleg MVS carts. Shitloads of these carts are sold, including to some MVS owners which use Neo-Geo.com

4. Playmore release Samurai Shodown Zero on a hybrid board.

5. Not to be stung again, they DO NOT RELEASE AES version! That way ROM cannot be dumped again so easily!!!!!

Think about it. Dont flame me ok wink

Fluff_Daddy · Aug 14, 2003

Multislot? Anyone? That's one of the main reasons that the neo is still so popular amongst the arcade operator. You only need one cabinet instead of four/six.

And even if MVS carts by some odd reason aren't released there will probably be converted carts.

I think that after a certain time SNK Playmore should offer the arcade ops to trade in their MVS boards for MVS carts. That'd be neet.

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