Playmore,Is'nt it about time you update the sprites??

BIG BEAR · Jul 14, 2003

These KOF sprites were fine for the 90's Can we get a total overhaul and not stupid lil' edits!!
There's no way in the world I should be able to pop in KOF 96' and get a preview of SNKvsCAPCOMCHAOS. Your new illustration artist should have redrawn your sprites..hehe..
Anyway,if there a 2003 KOF I hope you guys demonstrate a lil' pride an d do the right thing..
How about 2d versions of FFWA and Buriki One or an updated wrestling title(just use the ADK aka GanGan Engine)
-BB

bokmeow · Jul 14, 2003

Shouldn't this outcry be sent to Playmore and not posted here on Neo-Geo.com?

dullbuoy · Jul 15, 2003

the thing that bugs me about it is that:

each neo geo fighter series has had it's own look. like there's a difference in how terry looks in the fatal fury series, kof series, and MOTW. there's a distinction in style over Samurai Spirits and Last Blade. and yet SvC:Chaos just looks like KOF (with samsho and capcom characters). what exactly does this mean? KOF took different characters from different series and optimized the looks to look uniform in the game/series. and yet SvC also takes different characters and doesnt.

honeyman · Jul 15, 2003

It means our beloved company has succumbed to profit over creativity. Mind you, see how many other companies could go bankrupt, re-establish themselves and still produce games :rolleyes:

?

BeefJerky · Jul 15, 2003

Now now don't ask too much of Playmore... If they redrew the sprites they'd probably be fucked up...

bokmeow: Playmore reads this site.

leGionellz · Jul 15, 2003

Totally agree with BB, the kof sprites definitly need an update. One more kof with old sprites would really make me sick.

Time for new designs and outfits. I really don't see why this would be bad for Playmore.. I mean, it can't be THAT hard. And it would definitly renew some interest in the series. Maybe less characers, new sprites and some renewed gameplay and feel would be better then SvC which basically is nowaday's kof.

Can't wait to see SvC in action though

RabbitTroop · Jul 15, 2003

Truth is, looking at the SvsC new sprites... Playmore has some wicked talent still churning out character sprites. Those Capcom characters look great, and the new SNK ones do as well!

Playmore needs to leverage this talent to redo KOF, although, I doubt they could do it for 2003... maybe next years KOF or SvC (almost promised a sequel on this one, anyone disagree?)

-Nick

SonGohan · Jul 15, 2003

Man what happened with them churning out all those awesome games in the 90s with new sprites and all that other good shit? Those were multiple games a year! They can't even do a totally new update on a game they release once a year? Tsk tsk tsk..

bokmeow · Jul 15, 2003

Matt Semmel:
Now now don't ask too much of Playmore... If they redrew the sprites they'd probably be fucked up...

bokmeow: Playmore reads this site.

That wasn't quite what I meant. I meant, if you have something to say, say it to Playmore. They don't lurk 24/7 on Neo-Geo.com like us.

But I blame the sprite recycling on the British Intelligence.

Shito · Jul 15, 2003

dullbuoy:
the thing that bugs me about it is that:

each neo geo fighter series has had it's own look. like there's a difference in how terry looks in the fatal fury series, kof series, and MOTW. there's a distinction in style over Samurai Spirits and Last Blade. and yet SvC:Chaos just looks like KOF (with samsho and capcom characters). what exactly does this mean? KOF took different characters from different series and optimized the looks to look uniform in the game/series. and yet SvC also takes different characters and doesnt.

That's EXACLTY my point.

Even poor Ryo Sakazaki was TOTALLY re-drawn to fit FFS style when he was punt in FFS as a bonus chara.

And now we have a 'cut and paste' versus game.

But just think at KOFs: in former times, a comeback after evrn just a ONE year 'out' was completely redrawn.

Think Billy in 97. Mature and Vice in 98. Saisyu, Heidern and Takuma in 98. Or Kasumi in 99.

Was even a single frame of them RIPPED?

NO

In KOF2001, GOro, Heidern and Xianfei were all ripped from previous chapters in the series.

KOF2002... not event o mention.

THIS is what I call 'SAD' of these games...

Cookie Monster · Jul 15, 2003

They should make a game with 30 redrawn sprites, rather than 60 with old sprites.

beelzebubble · Jul 15, 2003

These KOF sprites were fine for the 90's Can we get a total overhaul and not stupid lil' edits!!
There's no way in the world I should be able to pop in KOF 96' and get a preview of SNKvsCAPCOMCHAOS. Your new illustration artist should have redrawn your sprites..hehe..
Anyway,if there a 2003 KOF I hope you guys demonstrate a lil' pride an d do the right thing..
How about 2d versions of FFWA and Buriki One or an updated wrestling title(just use the ADK aka GanGan Engine)
-BB

im not trying to start shit but the thing is bb you complain if ioris face gets a little fatter but now you cry for new sprites...?

which one is it? what if you get a new sprite super chubby iori in 03??

c.t.h · Jul 15, 2003

Ugh, you guys are the ULTIMATE at bitching and moaning.

Let's see, if Playmore redrew the sprites, they'd hear " THIS ISNT SNK STYLE THESE ARE IMPOSTERS WHAT CRAPPY ARTWORK THIS IS HORRIBLE" - and when they don't redraw the sprites, they get this.

IHMO, I couldn't care what the characters look like as long as the game plays good. To me that's ultimately the most important thing.

BIG BEAR · Jul 15, 2003

beelzebubble:

These KOF sprites were fine for the 90's Can we get a total overhaul and not stupid lil' edits!!
There's no way in the world I should be able to pop in KOF 96' and get a preview of SNKvsCAPCOMCHAOS. Your new illustration artist should have redrawn your sprites..hehe..
Anyway,if there a 2003 KOF I hope you guys demonstrate a lil' pride an d do the right thing..
How about 2d versions of FFWA and Buriki One or an updated wrestling title(just use the ADK aka GanGan Engine)
-BB

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im not trying to start shit but the thing is bb you complain if ioris face gets a little fatter but now you cry for new sprites...?

which one is it? what if you get a new sprite super chubby iori in 03??

It's time for an overhaul,plain and simple NOT Edits of recycled sprites which is all that FATTER FACE of IORI'S IS...
The edits to recycled sprites is CHEEZY and along the lines of MUGEN.
Most of us will not continue to settle for the CUT & PASTE Name recognition hype too much longer.
-BB

Tenshokyaku · Jul 15, 2003

I'd have to agree that Playmore won't be able to get by on sprite edits too much longer. To establish themselves as the "new" SNK, they will have to make an effort to CREATE, rather than recycle.

That being said, I think they are afraid of losing their fan base by making too many changes to an already proven formula, the classic Capcom syndrome. Either that or they have no-talent hacks working in development.

Change can be a dangerous thing in the video game market. Here's hoping they change things for the better!

Fluff_Daddy · Jul 15, 2003

KoF sprites that has the update rate of the ones in MOTW will make me happy. Preferably with every character redone from scratch.

Maybe something to do for the tenth installment of the series?

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JuBond · Jul 15, 2003

Hmm... please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Eolith the company that currently produces the KOF series for Playmore? Unless their contract ran out after 2002, they would be the one's that are doing all the sprite recycling. Look at what Mega did with MS4, and how excited everyone is about MS5 now that Playmore is taking over development. I'd say if people want a true update to the KOF series, petition to have the series created under Playmore instead of Eolith. Unless Playmore owns Eolith too...?

Setsuna1982 · Jul 15, 2003

Fluff_Daddy:
KoF sprites that has the update rate of the ones in MOTW will make me happy. Preferably with every character redone from scratch.

Maybe something to do for the tenth installment of the series?

10th instalment = KOF94 with awesome graphics. Just kof'94. But with 680megs, so new sprites, kof94 backgrounds redone and remix the classic tunes (well, change Rugal for krizalid

)

honeyman · Jul 15, 2003

Who knows what Playmore will do yet. hopefully they can surprise us with something that none of us would expect. We`ll yet agai just have to wait and see how the future rolls out

!

SonGohan · Jul 15, 2003

Setsuna1982:

Fluff_Daddy:
KoF sprites that has the update rate of the ones in MOTW will make me happy. Preferably with every character redone from scratch.

Maybe something to do for the tenth installment of the series?

Click to expand...

10th instalment = KOF94 with awesome graphics. Just kof'94. But with 680megs, so new sprites, kof94 backgrounds redone and remix the classic tunes (well, change Rugal for krizalid )

And a team edit for christ's sakes!

BIG BEAR · Jul 15, 2003

Yeah.. I believe the graphics should have a more darker serious look to them...
The cutesy graphics like Bao,Kasumi Todo and young boy apearance are sickening me..
SNK was headed in the right direction with SAMSHO III,what happened??
I even got a kick out of most of the last recent designs in KOF like Foxy,Vanessa,Lin,Angel,Kula and Seth.
I was thinking the Ikari Team should appear to be more of a middle aged and larger in staure group.
I also feel RYO and Robert's sprites need upgrading yesterday..they desperately need to look more edgey because frankly I find them very boring.
Somebody mentioned MOTW sprites and I agree that those sprites are heading in the correct direction I am pleased with..FREEMAN & BUTT come to mind.
-BB

Fran · Jul 16, 2003

heh

i have been moaning about this since the year 2000

and 3 years later...boom !

anyway
it will never happen guys

1996 is gone
capcom isnt making new fighters
the golden era of 2d brawlers is over anyway

eolith made 2001 and 2002,ok

but do you honestly think that playmore will release kof 2003 in december with 40 NEW sprites?

i dont even demand 40 new sprites

8 / 9 / 10 new ones every year would be good enough

just like snk did with 97 or 98,for example

while also adding tons of stuff and moves to the other fighters though

i predict chizuru,saisyu,the sports team,bao,shingo and kick will be back in 2003

with probably a couple new stances,
less moves,less specials,1 or 2 DMs instead of 3

and so on

mai,terry,iori,joe sprites etc etc etc will NEVER be redone

i like mai but that kof 96 sprite...its great and all but after 7 years...

annoying? yes

specially when you pay 300 + for a game
that should be something "new"

pheraps playmore doesnt have the money

pheraps all the great artists snk had are gone

pheraps they know they dont really need to work hard after all

kof is the only fighting game out there now

there is no competition - gg aside,so that doesnt count : p

and people like me and many others will play the latest revision anyway

sad,but true

Jedite · Jul 16, 2003

I don't think that the cartridges can hold 30 or more updated sprites, so they can only update a few or so each year. Well, SNK/Playmore have been using the same cartridges since 1990. But, to be honest wit' you, I didn't think that Neo Geo would last this long. The Neo Geo should win the award, for the longest lasting system yet. So, I don't think it's possible to update every single sprite in KOF unless they bought out new hardware, but, I don't think Playmore can afford to bring out new hardware. So, Playmore has to use what they have.

Viewpoint · Jul 16, 2003

bokmeow:
That wasn't quite what I meant. I meant, if you have something to say, say it to Playmore. They don't lurk 24/7 on Neo-Geo.com like us.

That's what yoooou think.

toy_brain · Jul 16, 2003

Totally redrawn sprites.......
Every year this topic comes up.
"Hey mabye this year the new KoF will have totally new sprites"
and every year we get the same old stuff.
Same old recycled sprites....

Why?

Because you love it - you know you love it you filthy slags.

loco

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