Lets talk about RARE AES games...and shutting down NGF!

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O.K. these games are supposed to be rare?

Metal Slug U.S.
1000 copies produced guaranteed.

Ultimate 11 U.S.?
1000 copies produced guaranteed.

Ninja Masters U.S.?
1000 copies produced guaranteed.

Prices are $800 up to $2500!

Now we have:

ROTD U.S.
Metal Slug 3 U.S.
Metal Slug 4 U.S.
Sengoku 3 U.S.
The King of Fighters 2001 U.S.

500 copies or less of each produced yet nobody wants them?

Shawn has done the unthinkable in releasing these games at such an affordable price.

Every one of these games are fun and with a total of 500 copies or less produced, I'd say you have a collectible.

If you own an AES you owe it to yourself to assist Shawn and the rest of the die-hard fans to purchase and enjoy these games and continue to see the release of other titles.

No, I'm not BryLmoo or FTL hacking Cappadonnas account. <img src="graemlins/shame.gif" border="0" alt="[Shame]" />

I am a Neo-Geo fan and I'm trying to help move stock.

The bigger Shawn gets, the less we have to hear come out of Dions lying mouth.

You can help shut down NGF!

Back up your beliefs...

With selling power and fans, Shawn can have an iron fist against Dion.

What goes around comes around...

You guys need to help out.

Since CGE officials and Playmore refuse to do anything, this is our only chance!

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I follow the theory that even if 1000 Maruko Chan Deluxe Quizes were produced, not all of them survived the the first few months, and were recycled. Moreover, if we get 300 English releases, of which only 1/2 to 2/3 sell, then I guess 300 was the bare minimum for production runs.

It's possible that there were 1000 metal slug 1 US carts made, but then it's also possible that many were recycled into SSIV and KoF 96, which were guaranteed sellers (and now very common).

I'm not arguing with you though. With only 300 US Sengoku 3s, you'd think people would be buying them like hotcakes - it's a lot more rare than Metal Slug X. Same goes for Metal Slug 3 US or KoF 2001 US. These games are actually rare. I guess Shawn did himself a grave disservice by displaying the number of carts available. If his store showed Sengoku 2001 out of stock, the US online retailers would quickly lose stock too and htat game would go up because people would start to think it's rare, and then value it thusly (the way that many value games like Pulstar, Blazing Star, Twinkle Star Sprites - just the rarity makes them like it). I'm crazy for liking Sengoku 2001 so much I guess, even if the value has dropped like a rock. Still a great game. Can't say the same for Samurai Shodown IV, which isn't rare, but goes for a lot more.

Supply and Demand. Sometimes it doesn't make sense.
 
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I just hope members see this post and decide to help out.
 
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All 4 of the new U.S. AES releases can be had for less than $1000!
 
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Originally posted by Cappadonna:
<strong>All 4 of the new U.S. AES releases can be had for less than $1000!</strong><hr></blockquote>

Which is roughly half a months pay of an average pay!

Not bashing cartprices or anything but you make it sounds like it's a superduper cheap offer. Which maybe it is. And I don't make any sense.

I blame emulation.

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Originally posted by EvilWasabi:
<strong>I follow the theory that even if 1000 Maruko Chan Deluxe Quizes were produced, not all of them survived the the first few months, and were recycled. Moreover, if we get 300 English releases, of which only 1/2 to 2/3 sell, then I guess 300 was the bare minimum for production runs.

It's possible that there were 1000 metal slug 1 US carts made, but then it's also possible that many were recycled into SSIV and KoF 96, which were guaranteed sellers (and now very common).

I'm not arguing with you though. With only 300 US Sengoku 3s, you'd think people would be buying them like hotcakes - it's a lot more rare than Metal Slug X. Same goes for Metal Slug 3 US or KoF 2001 US. These games are actually rare. I guess Shawn did himself a grave disservice by displaying the number of carts available. If his store showed Sengoku 2001 out of stock, the US online retailers would quickly lose stock too and htat game would go up because people would start to think it's rare, and then value it thusly (the way that many value games like Pulstar, Blazing Star, Twinkle Star Sprites - just the rarity makes them like it). I'm crazy for liking Sengoku 2001 so much I guess, even if the value has dropped like a rock. Still a great game. Can't say the same for Samurai Shodown IV, which isn't rare, but goes for a lot more.

Supply and Demand. Sometimes it doesn't make sense.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I quite agree with you,but..
There is a big BUT.

The neo geo scene is not that big.
Few are real collectors.
take this forum,a lot of members just are here for the drama of so called community.
But how many are the real collectors OR buyers of neo geo home carts?
FEW.

Bottom line:if there were 500 Metal slug 1 US or JAP for $285,ORIGINAL cart,they would NOT sell.
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Originally posted by FTL:
<strong>

I quite agree with you,but..
There is a big BUT.

The neo geo scene is not that big.
Few are real collectors.
take this forum,a lot of members just are here for the drama of so called community.
But how many are the real collectors OR buyers of neo geo home carts?
FEW.

Bottom line:if there were 500 Metal slug 1 US or JAP for $285,ORIGINAL cart,they would NOT sell.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yep, you can tell how many AES collectors there are, look at how many carts shawn has left of his new US releases. All the carts he sold for the most part, were pre-orders to the members who buy AES here. And now his sales hit a brick wall, because everyone that wanted one already bought one.

500 is too much, I'd say 200 cart runs would sell out, but that's to little. Look at arcades converted carts, they aren't real, but he made what 50 of each? And he didn't even sell some of those out.
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Originally posted by FTL:
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Bottom line:if there were 500 Metal slug 1 US or JAP for $285,ORIGINAL cart,they would NOT sell.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Truer words have never been spoken.
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I agree with FTL there. I, for one, have bought every one of those US releases, and am a true collector :D (and gamer). And FTL is also correct that there is a lot of spammers ( ;) ) here just for "human contact" because they lack it in the real world.
 
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A lot of what you guys say is true, but then you have the collector like me:

1. I've got a couple of games, and get more almost every paycheck, but I'm broke as hell, and can't afford anything... at the moment.

2. I REALLY don't know what all of the "Neo Geo Freak" stuff is, or what it's about.
 
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Originally posted by Cappadonna:
<strong>O.K. these games are supposed to be rare?

Metal Slug U.S.
1000 copies produced guaranteed.

Ultimate 11 U.S.?
1000 copies produced guaranteed.

Ninja Masters U.S.?
1000 copies produced guaranteed.

Prices are $800 up to $2500!

Now we have:

ROTD U.S.
Metal Slug 3 U.S.
Metal Slug 4 U.S.
Sengoku 3 U.S.
The King of Fighters 2001 U.S.

500 copies or less of each produced yet nobody wants them?

Shawn has done the unthinkable in releasing these games at such an affordable price.

Every one of these games are fun and with a total of 500 copies or less produced, I'd say you have a collectible.

If you own an AES you owe it to yourself to assist Shawn and the rest of the die-hard fans to purchase and enjoy these games and continue to see the release of other titles.

No, I'm not BryLmoo or FTL hacking Cappadonnas account. <img src="graemlins/shame.gif" border="0" alt="[Shame]" />

I am a Neo-Geo fan and I'm trying to help move stock.

The bigger Shawn gets, the less we have to hear come out of Dions lying mouth.

You can help shut down NGF!

Back up your beliefs...

With selling power and fans, Shawn can have an iron fist against Dion.

What goes around comes around...

You guys need to help out.

Since CGE officials and Playmore refuse to do anything, this is our only chance!

<img src="graemlins/help.gif" border="0" alt="[Help]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>


Well I for one will be buying all new releases, as well as these ones
:D
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Originally posted by NSX-T:
<strong>there is a lot of spammers here just for "human contact" because they lack it in the real world.</strong><hr></blockquote>


hi drift king shit
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Hi, personally i am a gamer, a bit of an obsessive gamer but a gamer none the less. you are tight when you say that metal slug would not sell out if there was another prodction run. the neo scene is so small (in the west at least) that the reason it sells for so much is that EVERYONE likes it and everyone knows it's hard to come by, also there are probably on;ly 4-5 copies floating around in a year and so the 10-12 people who REALLY want it will pay through the nose for it!

I buy neo because i love the games, that said i won't buy crap games at stupid prices (saw legend of sucess joe for over £150 WTF!!!!???) we are very lucky at the moment that all games being released on the AES are above average and good fun to play and (in my opinion) are worth the money as they look great, play great and the packaging is SO cool!

the only problem isthat the games are the moment are just 'good- great' none are 'fantastic' people are gonna wait, hell i have been thinking about Sengkou 3 for a while now and i AM going to get it now it's had the price drop but 200 dollars is still quite a bit for a game i'll have to wait till the end of the month ad see what i have left (you just can't justify it otherwise.)

i thank shawn for all the work he does, in all honesty there probably wouldn;t be a neo scene (or it would be A LOT smaller) than it is without his work.

preach neo geo and they WILL buy.

i'd also like to state my reputation that if SNK Vs capcom (or whatever) come s out it WILL sell out, something new BUT familar at the same time (it's a winner).

later people,

PS the other problem is finding a game to play before you buy it. i'm NO WAY gonna buy ROTD blind cause that would be like placing a $325 bet on a random number but can i find it in an arcade???? CAN I HELL!!! (trust me i have tried) if anyone knows then please tell me!!!!! (SE England)
 
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Originally posted by Drift King EX:
<strong>AES is shit</strong><hr></blockquote>

then leave this place,
cos this is a bbs dedicated to the * NEO GEO *

my god,you're SO dumb
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Originally posted by NSX-T:
<strong>I agree with FTL there. I, for one, have bought every one of those US releases, and am a true collector :D (and gamer). And FTL is also correct that there is a lot of spammers ( ;) ) here just for "human contact" because they lack it in the real world.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I agree about the "human contact" but ouch, "lack it in the real world"...come on now. I only have so much loot to spend every month on games. Plus, I'm strictly MVS now which means I have to wait for the newer releases to be affordable in order for me to buy them. Either your attitude towards casual Neo/SNK fans is way too harsh or I need to change my philosophy...well, maybe a little of both works here?...

[ September 05, 2002: Message edited by: Shadowland ]</p>
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I guess that 500 MS1s magically appearing wouldn't sell is obvious, yeah. It's really true though - it's what the collectors want that determines the price. You know, like Super Spy, two guys with cash in a bidding war. It's taking a long time for that piece of garbage to adjust its price, but eventually all cart prices will readjust to what they're really worth to the market.

Like Twinkle Star Sprites too. It was just $450 a few years ago, then BOOM $1000. Now it can be obtained on Yahoo Japan for 70000 yen (roughly $600), maybe less - and no one will bid on one for 90000 yen either - I see it happen when someone tests the market by dumping that cart, or Blazing Star at 75000, or Breakers at 50000 on auction, and no one bids at all because really the carts aren't worth that much to those that aren't desperate. But then there's Metal Slug 1, where the price isn't adjusting too well. Too many people who want to buy a trophy for their collection. Other than Gemant, I don't know many collectors that really deserve the game. ;)


Originally posted by FTL:
<strong>

I quite agree with you,but..
There is a big BUT.

The neo geo scene is not that big.
Few are real collectors.
take this forum,a lot of members just are here for the drama of so called community.
But how many are the real collectors OR buyers of neo geo home carts?
FEW.

Bottom line:if there were 500 Metal slug 1 US or JAP for $285,ORIGINAL cart,they would NOT sell.</strong><hr></blockquote>
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Problem is that I believe that there were nothing near 1000 copies made of MS1, U11, and NM. At least as noted above, not that many released to the market. No way there could be, otherwise we wouldn't be seeing these kinds of ridiculous prices . . . and so few copies up for sale. <img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" />
 
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Originally posted by chimpmeister:
<strong>Problem is that I believe that there were nothing near 1000 copies made of MS1, U11, and NM. </strong><hr></blockquote>

Well how many are we talking? Is this speculation? rumors? actual production numbers?

I'm not doubting you, but it was VERY easy for me to buy a Slug 1 U.S. back in 96-97 for $249.99 direct from SNK when I ordered a memory card and a stick.

Plus Japan Videogames and NCS had multiple (100's) of Slug 1's in stock.

Same with Gamedude, McVans and others.

There might have been more than 1000 released.
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Originally posted by Cappadonna:
[QB
Since Playmore refuse to do anything, this is our only chance!

<img src="graemlins/help.gif" border="0" alt="[Help]" /> [/QB]<hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/glee.gif" border="0" alt="[Glee]" /> <img src="graemlins/glee.gif" border="0" alt="[Glee]" /> <img src="graemlins/glee.gif" border="0" alt="[Glee]" />
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Originally posted by NSX-T:
<strong>I agree with FTL there. I, for one, have bought every one of those US releases, and am a true collector :D (and gamer). And FTL is also correct that there is a lot of spammers ( ;) ) here just for "human contact" because they lack it in the real world.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Hi son
What a stupidass
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Originally posted by Tarma:
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<img src="graemlins/glee.gif" border="0" alt="[Glee]" /> <img src="graemlins/glee.gif" border="0" alt="[Glee]" /> <img src="graemlins/glee.gif" border="0" alt="[Glee]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Hmmm, care to explain those little smilies Tarma? <img src="graemlins/spock.gif" border="0" alt="[Spock]" />
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