Who is stronger Iori or Ryu?

I`ve been wondering:who is stronger,Iori or
Ryu!Well I think iori is a looser.In CvS I
beat him even with Dhalsim.One of the local
guys ath the local arcade used Iori and I am
always using Blanka,Dhalsim,Sakura and Cammy
note that Blanka`s roll can go over Iori`s
projectile(what`s the name I am always hea-
ring"Don`t stop!")and Dhalsim`s HP goes over
Iori`s projectile and after that Dhalsim can
guard the projectile.
But I was wondering who is stronger Iori or
Ruy!Iori has good recovery so Ryu does but I
am not expirienced RYU/KEN/IORI player so I
am kidna curious:who is stronger!

KOF Iori would kick st or cvs ryu's ass,but
IMO beating cvs ryu with cvs Iori is harder than beating cvs Iori with cvs ryo..

kj

well in cvs pretty much all the snk characters have been weakened to the point of almost being pathetic...you have to pretty much relearn all of them...iori has many easy combos, but his speed and range suffer greatly in the game...

if it was kof iori he would kick the shit out of any of those capcom pansies...however since capcom does the game, they have to make their side stronger...

a good iori player in cvs is really a lot stronger then most...im not that great in the game, but i have gotten use to the playing...i also noted that at arcades evil ryu and orochi iori were easily the most common characters used and with ratio edit...

orochi iori atleast has some speed, but his range still suffers...i would say ryu would probably win, i think a good ryu player would beat a good iori player due to capcoms weakening him...

if you play the neo geo pocket version of the game, done by snk...youll see exactly how easily iori should be able to kick capcom characters around...its sad when a pocket game is better then its naomi board counter-part...i think snk and capcom should have done the games together, not letting one company do one and the other do another...

cvs gives a bad rep to some great snk characters...someone told me that terry wasnt even a match for sakura...what a load full...terry is probably the closest snk character to as he should be...

i say Iori is stronger though Ryu can easily beat him, he has no match against Iori.
i'll bet Iori is far more stronger than Wolverine.

The whole lot of you are saying how SNK characters are weaker, but guess why? They need to be made weaker in order to not CREAM the Capcom guys. Generally, SNK chars have many more moves than Capcom. Think about it: Guile has a flash kick and a sonic boom! Yawn.

I think these issues will be remedied with CvsSNK 2. Well, I hope.

Spike

in CVS1,ryu was terrilbly overpowered.his shin shoryuken does more damage than akuma's shungokusatsu,for a ratio 2 fighter.of course,in CVS1,ryu would win but kof's iori would beat ryu.but don't underestimate ryu.he has more experience than iori and his combos are short but effective.

SNK characters have more moves to use than Capcom characters. Instead of using the same move over and over again, SNK players can mix up different moves to combo and keep the opponent on their toes.

But Capcom screwed the SNK characters in CVS. They kept the cooldown on many moves of the SNK characters and lowered their priorities and effectiveness while Capcom characters don't suffer the same problem. Take a look at Ryu, he can throw a Hadouken and quickly recover from the cooldown. All the SNK projectile users are slow compared to the Capcom characters and take a while to complete their fireball animations, leaving them open to attacks while their projectiles can be dodged. Same with many of the uppercut/anti-air moves.

I was playing CVS today and just for fun tried out EX Kyo. I couldn't believe the insane cooldown from the fireball and how slowly the qcf+k move comes out. Capcom really screwed Kyo, and after hearing about Kyo being weakened in CVS2 really pisses me off. I'm not a Kyo fan, but even I can see that he's royally screwed.

Originally posted by heatblazer:
<STRONG>I`ve been wondering:who is stronger,Iori or
Ryu!Well I think iori is a looser.In CvS I
beat him even with Dhalsim.One of the local
guys ath the local arcade used Iori and I am
always using Blanka,Dhalsim,Sakura and Cammy
note that Blanka`s roll can go over Iori`s
projectile(what`s the name I am always hea-
ring"Don`t stop!")and Dhalsim`s HP goes over
Iori`s projectile and after that Dhalsim can
guard the projectile.
But I was wondering who is stronger Iori or
Ruy!Iori has good recovery so Ryu does but I
am not expirienced RYU/KEN/IORI player so I
am kidna curious:who is stronger!</STRONG>

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If you're talking about CvS, I think that Ryu is the stronger character. for one, he has the terribly damaging shin-shoryuken. Also, Ryu's Shinku Hadoken is much more useful than Iori's One-for-the-Road Blast, which isn't very effective and slow to come off, and even worse, very easy to aviod or at least block. Ryu's shoryuken is also a little better than Iori's fireball for anti-air, as it seems to be less vulnerable, especially at the start of the move.

Let me ask you guys who say that Capcom weakened SNK chars out of preference of their own chars, who do you think is by far the best char in the game? Hint: it's not a Capcom character.

Bah. I'll just tell you now. It's Nakoruru. She EASILY owns everybody else in the game. Nobody else even comes close.

Do you know who the worst two chars in the game are? By FAR, EX Cammy and Vega. Capcom characters. So if Capcom was trying to tip the scales in their favor, do you really think they'd let something like that slip?

Besides, a lot of SNK chars were NOT weakened. Some, like Terry, have never been more effective. (for the record, Terry is the 2nd-3rd best char in the game) This still eludes some people, but the SNK chars don't play exactly like they did in KOF because it's a balance issue. Simple as that.

And whoever told IoriYagami n8 that Sakura beats Terry is horribly wrong. Sakura was raped really badly in CvS. If you don't count EX Cammy, then she's the worst ratio 1.

Krusader, the recovery time (cooldown) of all the projectiles in the game are pretty much the same (except for Guile's, who's is shorter because he's a charge character). The nature EX Kyo's animation may make it seem longer, but it's actually the same. Try getting two people to get in a fireball fight and see what I mean.

As for the Ryu/Iori debate, it all boils down to one thing, the Shinshoryuken. Without it, Iori would be better. Even with it, Ryu isn't top 3 in the game, so he isn't overpowered. Iori can play some mean trap games with his 8 Wine Cups super in SNK groove.

It's not that Iori is slower, as some people are saying, it's just that he can't low jump or run in CvS, so he just seems slower. His range is still good, too. He has one of the farthest reaching sweeps in the game.

Iori would kick ryu's ass anytime <IMG SRC="smilies/smirk.gif" border="0">

Cho

First of all, let me say that SNK is tops for me, but Capcom is RIGHT behind them. If SNK is a 10 for me, Capcom is a 9.9999 ad infinitum/naseum <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">. So this opinion is as unbiased as I can make it.

Gameplay wise, in CvS, Ryu is a superior character to Iori. He's just a more effective character, and anybody that's played both characters heavily will tell you that. Shin Shoryuken does WAY too much damage, however. I hope they fix that with CvS pro when it comes out in June/July. CvS 2 might fix this as well, but I'd like to play a version of CvS 1 where that move is a little more responsibily handled. Yes, I know you have to be right next to the person to get the full effect. No, I don't care. It STILL does way too much damage.

And for the record, I'm not one of these people that thinks Capcom *raped* SNK's characters simply out of spite or a desire to make their own character look better. It's simply a matter of game balance. The SF characters just don't have the same number of special maneuvers and attacks as the SNK side, and this despite the extra two buttons that SF gameplay sports:P! Capcom would have had to give the Capcom characters each a ton of new moves and draw them all in order to balance it out, and it was simply easier development wise to scale down the SNK side for purposes of gameplay balance.

Others will see it differently from this, and that's cool. This is just my view of the game based on how I've played it to death with my friends. Personally, I hate that the Capcom characters do their sweeps by crouching and holding towards. It's an extra element of gameplay that I have to take into account when playing Capcom characters, and I'm still not used to it.

Here's to hoping they make everyone happy with CvS 2 (doubtful as that is). I'm really looking forward to the six button control because I'm curious to see how it will affect the SNK characters. What moves will come out when you hit the medium buttons while playing SNK charas?

Oh, and somebody said Nakoruru is an overpowering character. I couldn't agree more. I hate her and wish she would just go away.

for my answer to who's better, combine bucktooth's 2nd post with taiso's. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
wish i coulda' responded sooner.

Ryu. Please Iori vs Ryu. Iori is little kid against Ryu. If Iori is a kid against Terry. And Ryu is older than Terry.

Ryu is a gimp.
Iori, no contest.

Iori will win against Ryu fairly, anytime, anywhere.

Actually Ken hands down would smack down anyone Enough Said

Iori is by far stronger than Ryu.But if it was O.Iori against E.Ryu,that might be a different case

Originally posted by hebretto:
<STRONG>Iori is by far stronger than Ryu.But if it was O.Iori against E.Ryu,that might be a different case</STRONG>

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oh yeah,i remembered that post you made quite some time ago on evil ryu's combo.its awesome.the juggles!!!!evil ryu has good combos.

since everybody's worried about shinshoryuken in CvS2, here's what the beta testers have said so far:

Damage is the same, BUT, it does not juggle. That makes it a lot harder to land, since you can't c.shortx2, c.roundhouse, super. You can c.shortx2, super, but that takes a lot more anticipation. So I don't think that there will be so many people complaining about it anymore. Since they took out the juggling ability, Ryo's lv.3 punch super is WAY better than the shinshoryuken.

Well since they remuved Sodom the games is
really easy!You can`t imagine what horror
he brings in SFA!But I think that Iori can
beat Sodom becauseSodom can`t slide under
Iori`s projectile.Well Sodom beats Ryu any-
time anywhere,and I don`t think that Sodom
can beat Iori!
So Iori can beat Ryu,anytime,anywhere?!

Butsumetsu Buster rules!!!!

I like ryu and everything, but Iori could whip him or Ken anyday. I think Akuma vs. Iori is alright though. not there cvs versions but 96 Iori vs. 3S Akuma. That would be a good match I think. Iori would still win though <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"> Later.

iori won't stand a chance against akuma.

That's true,Gans, Akuma can beat Iori but can he beat Orochi? Since Akuma can read his opponent's moves but Orochi knows what his opponent is going to do next and avoid the attack. And they both have very deadly and high damaging Super Moves and DMs.(Akuma has his Raging Demon and that Power Geyser-thingy while Orochi has his soul-crashing DM and the DM which the area is covered with light and does high damage to ya.)
I used to post a special intro between them using their Supers and DMs on each other back at the Capcom forum but Capcom deleted it for the new ones.

[ June 11, 2001: Message edited by: Hun ]

I've thought of that before Hun, but Orochi would beat Akuma's ass like a rag-doll.Akuma could beat Iori, I was wrong btw. I think a better match would Orochi vs. Gill. That would be badass. They should be the bosses of CVS2. A Gill/Orochi team, that would be scary. Later.