k groove (just defend) thread

kimkap420

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I have been searching the net for a page that gets in depth on the logistics of k groove.........well i couldnt find one so i decided to take it here.
 

kimkap420

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im haveing trouble just defending bison's psycho vanish.i can only just defend the first two hits rarely the first three.it does a total of 5 hits.

the fastest moves i can just defend are kims quarter circle forward + kick move and morrigans super where she goes off screen and comes back with the drill.

also haveing trouble just defending sagats tiger uppercut.


can you only just defend in the air when no other input is entered?

another thing that is badass is with rock or geese when you counter your bar in k goes up <img src="graemlins/makeface.gif" border="0" alt="[Make Face]" />

this thread is open to any questions you may have about k groove or feel free to awnser mine ill do my best to check it
 

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What you should do is go to the Practice Mode and Rec. the move that you want the computer to do. You control the computer. Then put Play. Now practice with K-Groove.
I did the samething with P-Groove and learned how to Parry. It takes time.
 

kimkap420

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yep i do that all the time.rec ~ play is a cool training feature.i also play p.what sux is i have cvs2 eo on game cube and you cant do the same shit in p on the arcade version.for instance i can run up with ryu (crouch,med punch,fierce puch roll it a quarter circle forward do a fire ball and right after that do his fire ball super. and im not talking about the eo version refering to p groove).but i like k because of the running ;) and the rage system <img src="graemlins/veryangry.gif" border="0" alt="[Very Angry]" /> .


what i was talking about was with fast hitting moves.its dam near impossible to press back that fast.(but in p groove it is easy because the parry slows it down)

k owns for the slight life recovery when you just defend

sorry if the paragraphs are all fucked up im stoned :)
 

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kimkap420:
yep i do that all the time.rec ~ play is a cool training feature.i also play p.what sux is i have cvs2 eo on game cube and you cant do the same shit in p on the arcade version.for instance i can run up with ryu (crouch,med punch,fierce puch roll it a quarter circle forward do a fire ball and right after that do his fire ball super. and im not talking about the eo version refering to p groove).but i like k because of the running wink and the rage system very_ang .


what i was talking about was with fast hitting moves.its dam near impossible to press back that fast.(but in p groove it is easy because the parry slows it down)

k owns for the slight life recovery when you just defend

sorry if the paragraphs are all fucked up im stoned :)
Well I'm no K-Groove expert, but you should Rec. as told and keep pressing Jab or Short. Then play it and get near the AI and practice Just Defend against the Jabs or Shorts. It takes time. Not easy, but practice.
If you have a friend that plays the game, play him and tell him to Jab in the game so you can try to Just Defend it.

<small>[ January 21, 2003, 04:37 PM: Message edited by: Megatron X ]</small>
 

kimkap420

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can anyone show some luv for k groove? (i know most of you play c groove (cough weak! cough) or n groove (cough lil less weak cough!!) or if you think k groove sucks post it glee
 

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Ignition:
I happen to use P Groove and could own your K Groove Ass. :D
That's the spirit. Show the power of P-Groove.

Fear The Power of P-Groove. :D buttrock
 

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Megatron X:
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I happen to use P Groove and could own your K Groove Ass. :D
That's the spirit. Show the power of P-Groove.

Fear The Power of P-Groove. :D buttrock
I am also all about the P groove. Though a little N groove can be refreshing at times. <a href="http://www.shoryuken.com" target="_blank">www.shoryuken.com</a> for all your Crapcom needs!
 

Megatron X

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mog:
Megatron X:
Ignition:
I happen to use P Groove and could own your K Groove Ass. :D
That's the spirit. Show the power of P-Groove.

Fear The Power of P-Groove. :D buttrock
I am also all about the P groove. Though a little N groove can be refreshing at times. <a href="http://www.shoryuken.com" target="_blank">www.shoryuken.com</a> for all your Crapcom needs!
I also use N-Groove at times, but mainly P-Groove.

kimkap420, go to that site that mog gave you and ask away.
 

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Megatron X:
mog:
Megatron X:
Ignition:
I happen to use P Groove and could own your K Groove Ass. :D
That's the spirit. Show the power of P-Groove.

Fear The Power of P-Groove. :D buttrock
I am also all about the P groove. Though a little N groove can be refreshing at times. <a href="http://www.shoryuken.com" target="_blank">www.shoryuken.com</a> for all your Crapcom needs!
I also use N-Groove at times, but mainly P-Groove.

kimkap420, go to that site that mog gave you and ask away.
Wow, so many P-groovers... I find P-groove really hard, the timing is so strict compared to SF3... frown
 

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Megatron X:
mog:
Megatron X:
Ignition:
I happen to use P Groove and could own your K Groove Ass. :D
That's the spirit. Show the power of P-Groove.

Fear The Power of P-Groove. :D buttrock
I am also all about the P groove. Though a little N groove can be refreshing at times. <a href="http://www.shoryuken.com" target="_blank">www.shoryuken.com</a> for all your Crapcom needs!
I also use N-Groove at times, but mainly P-Groove.

kimkap420, go to that site that mog gave you and ask away.
Yeah go there kimkap420 then come back and you may be a worthy challenge for my P-Groove skillz. :D
 

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Hey I love SNK but you gotta admit a GOOD P Groove player can own a K groove anyday.
 

kimkap420

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um i think your wrong...!k groove is a much better groove!!!!

it takes way to long to gain a super in p groove
you cant run

k groove you get better damage and take less damage in rage.
you gain life from just defending and you get alot more supers
 

complexz

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ima K groove player all the way and have been for like a year now...and i honestly dont think p groove owns K at all

intially a parry seems alot more usefull then the JD cuz the freeze and the lack of recovery.
but u gotta look at the SUPER SLOW charging bar and once its fully charged...its the weakest MAX supers of all the grooves

so basically u havta parry like a fukin monster to get real good use outa P groove and even so u dont gain any major advantages due to the lack of roll/RC

what i like about k groove is if i play a bad match and eat a super or somthing by accedent the rage is usually enuf to make up for that mistake :)

and if im at the top of my game and JD'ing everything...then my bar is up there just as fast :)

infact i HATE playing other K groove players cuz of the same reasons..i can be whoopin on em..then make a mistake eat a MAX super...and loose!

damn rage!
 

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I have never played a K Groove player that has beateb my P Groove team. I always find a way to bust their little game of turtle.
 

complexz

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your probably just a better all round player than them :)

in k groove i play rushdown for the most part
like 75% of my jd'ing is air defence against tiger uppercuts and supers

it messes up ppls game when they learn u cant rely on anti airs :) even though its hard to retaliate after a air JD u can always at least get a feirce punch or roundhouse kick in after each one

and if the anti air move is a super or multihit chances are your bar is close to charged already :)
 

kimkap420

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daman has got some good points.I am for the most part a rush in kinda player.my just defend skills are strongest firstly in the air, secondly low JD, and fireballs.couching just defend is tha shit.


PLUS p grove is fucked up in the arcade and dc you cant cancel your special moves into supers only on the gc and xbox version maybe updated arcades . so that sux and parrying is hella easy in succession. where k grove is timeing and patterns. when you parry any move the parrying time is the same.
 

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I prefer N groove, but lately have taken an interest in K groove because of Haohmaru..I want to play him as close to his OG self as possible. Can anyone suggest characters that get a huge benefit in K groove?
 

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It's all about N groove, I love that groove. It's all I ever use in the game, it's almost as bad as people who play only ryu and ken, but then again I play with Terry and some other people all the time....all the time...yea it's good to varies through the grooves but I'm too stubborn to pick any other grooves because I suck with them.
 
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kimkap420:
yep i do that all the time.rec ~ play is a cool training feature.i also play p.what sux is i have cvs2 eo on game cube and you cant do the same shit in p on the arcade version.for instance i can run up with ryu (crouch,med punch,fierce puch roll it a quarter circle forward do a fire ball and right after that do his fire ball super. and im not talking about the eo version refering to p groove).but i like k because of the running wink and the rage system very_ang .


what i was talking about was with fast hitting moves.its dam near impossible to press back that fast.(but in p groove it is easy because the parry slows it down)

k owns for the slight life recovery when you just defend

sorry if the paragraphs are all fucked up im stoned :)
They added super cancel to the eo ports of the game, to make P groove ever-so-slightly better than it was. So, it's not like it was a bug that you can do that combo at home and not the arcade, just capcom tweaking the balance. On the Xbox port, they removed Roll Cancels completely (another good decision, IMO).

For the guys having a little trouble with parrying, I read somewhere that it's not quite like 3rd strike. In CvS2, you have a comparably HUGE window of time after tapping forward for it to count as a parry, whereas you've only got a fraction of that time if you hold forward and want the parry. This makes it easier to parry in anticipation and harder to parry on reaction. In short, think ahead and parrying is easy.

<small>[ March 10, 2003, 07:46 PM: Message edited by: galvatron ]</small>
 

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I know I'm pretty damn good in k-groove. I got 20 wins on sunday in the arcade. and at my arcade we know how to fucking play! my kyo was mercilless and almost killed one players entire team. and I was playing the japanese version, so even the computer gave me no mercy( it was alot harder than ps2 on max difficulty) But either way you have to play on the setup at family fun arcade. The plasma owns all your tv sets for free. Xbox? oh please!...
 
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