A big petition againts striker system and the stupid other striker system.

Ice_burn

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for sure I hate those system. because most players are depending with their strikers and it is not fighting it's like a crying little girl begging for help from her mother coz her older brother Is teasing her.

If your againts my words I'm ready for a debate. <IMG SRC="smilies/tickled.gif" border="0">
 
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Cool_Hansome_Kid

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True!Strikers were overabused by players,especially Joe!Why,they even don't have the guts to attack without calling the strikers!! <IMG SRC="smilies/veryangry.gif" border="0">

[ October 17, 2001: Message edited by: da'irresistable CHK ]
 

BryLmoo

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signed - take strikers out of kof

Bryan
 

John

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Sure, why not? I never really use strikers anyway. <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">

Let me put my "Herbie Hancock" on this riiiiiight... here. <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/glee.gif" border="0">
 

NeoGML

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you people suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!

LEARN TO BLOCK! <IMG SRC="smilies/smirk.gif" border="0">
 
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Learn to block?

You learn to fight like a real man you coward.

Not only you call someone during battle, i bet you guys kick anybody while they are down, and you should never EVER kick anyone down.
 

evil wasabi

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if you dont like strikers...dont use em. especially in kof2k1, just pick 4 peeps.

i bet that if the strikers werent introduced people would be bitching that it was getting old. people always have to find something to bitch about
 

NeoGML

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Originally posted by The lone wolf:
<STRONG>Learn to block?

You learn to fight like a real man you coward.

Not only you call someone during battle, i bet you guys kick anybody while they are down, and you should never EVER kick anyone down.</STRONG>

shut up.

i almost never use strikers, unless i absolutley need a striker combo to save my ass.

you can't kick people while they're down...

and i wouldn't kick someone while they're down, cause they're down for a reason... that reason being i kicked the shit out them standing up.

who the hell are you, anyway?
 

FeelGood

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but you can whip them when they're down... or lift them up with Joe as a striker.
 

Ice_burn

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hey neo gml if you are fighting just to protect that system debate with your guts. saying the words you suck is not enough. I would not make us surrender.Striker system is only for babies! <IMG SRC="smilies/loco.gif" border="0">
 

Goukipoo

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I personally love the striker idea. It's teh same thing when sega went form VF2 to VF3, a lot of people complained that the game was no longer fun and cheap, bull shit, that's teh deepest fighting game ever created. Though I havn't played KoF2K1, I believe juggles are great fun, especially in xmen vs SF, though to note, the rest of the vs series, save CvS2, sucks. Though I must say, and infinte combo is bullshit.
 

NeoGML

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fine fine fine...

you all want an explanation why you ALL SUCK?

okay.

NeoGML on Why People Who Complain About Strikers Suck and How They Should Deal With It
Written by Matthew Lim a.k.a. NeoGML

Introduction

Okay. you all complain about strikers, because you say they're "unfair". why exactly are they unfair? maybe because you can't defend against them? because you fall into them all the time? because they're too potent in combos? no... they're potent in combos when the person who executes them uses them well. it takes much coordination to do striker combos, it's not some trick people use to be cheap. you can do them too.

and if you just ADAPT, you'll be fine. there's a difference between NOT LIKING strikers, and saying they're unfair, but what's not to like?

Chapter 1 - Why you suck

okay, you suck because strikers, in their purest form, can be AVOIDED. most strikers are ground based, and those that are not can be blocked from the ground. if you get hit in the air, it's your own goddamn fault, jump at your own risk. honestly, if you're going to throw out stupid attacks that will leave you open, such as attacks that go most of the screen and you're nowhere near your opponent, prepare to be smacked if you're playing against a good opponent. stupid attacks deserve stupid counters. strikers included.

Additionally, strikers can be used in combos. striker combos add a large depth to gameplay, makes things more interesting, more things to worry about. you can use strikers to bridge time and lag gaps, which is a nice feature.

if you get hit by striker combos, you need to block more. and if you play stupid, all out pressure, prepare to be smacked very hard when playing against other decent players, because people who rush ALWAYS fall into close standing strong attacks, which are staple combos starters.

striker combos can be EASILY AVOIDED as with all combos. just BLOCK. DON'T FALL INTO THEM.

and another thing...

THE ONLY WAY TO REDEEM STRIKER BOMBS IS IF YOU TAUNT, LEAVING YOURSELF 100% VULNERABLE!

the only time someone really has a good chance to taunt is if their opponent is dizzy. you only really get dizzy if you're getting your ass kicked, so this is my advice: don't get your ass kicked.

end of chapter 1.

Chapter 2 - Dealing With Your Suckyness

Okay, good ways to avoid being smoked by strikers/striker combos

-don't run as much, especially from long distances... unless your opponent fears you.

-don't play dumb. don't do non-arc distance attacks from far away, unless you know they won't call a striker or if they're out of bombs.

-don't jump recklessly. this is not SFZ3, this is KOF. you cannot air block.

-if you can't play agressive and not fall into strikers/striker combos, play counter. take care of people's mistakes, use occasional pressure.

-USE STRIKERS.

end of chapter 2.

yup yup yup. so there you have it.

eat me. <IMG SRC="smilies/tickled.gif" border="0">
 
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SHIN-HIDOSHI

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Neo Gml,you're funny ,that line is pretty good, the one about how you wouldn't kick someone who's down.
I once hired a little seven year old boy, to the Kyo pointer finger taunt to this guy who kept on using infintes.
I gave him a number of tokens for a job well done.
 

The Z-Man

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I back Neo GML 100%. Everything he said is very true, learn to adapt or don't play the game, it's that simple. <IMG SRC="smilies/eek2.gif" border="0">
 

NeoGML

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Originally posted by SHIN-HIDOSHI:
<STRONG>I once hired a little seven year old boy, to the Kyo pointer finger taunt to this guy who kept on using infintes.
I gave him a number of tokens for a job well done.</STRONG>

hahahahahahahahahahahhahaahhaahahahahaha
 

NeoGML

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no replies??

heheheheh.... that's what i thought. <IMG SRC="smilies/smirk.gif" border="0">
 
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Hey! I like the striker system. It gives the game an added level of depth (and more fun; where else can you get cameo appearances by numerous SNK alumni?).

To those against the striker system: I can understand your viewpoint on this, but unless you start writing thousands of hand-written letters in Korean to Eolith, I don't think the Striker system will be going away.

Change happens, folks. Evolve, adapt, or perish.

[ October 21, 2001: Message edited by: insaneben ]
 
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Kyo

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Originally posted by insaneben:
Hey! I like the striker system. It gives the game an added level of depth (and more fun; where else can you get cameo appearances by numerous SNK alumni?).
To those against the striker system: I can understand your viewpoint on this, but unless you start writing thousands of hand-written letters in Korean to Eolith, I don't think the Striker system will be going away

I Agree!
TOTALLY!! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

Ran Thrie

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Strikers are cool. I would perfer tho that that they were a active part of your team. So if they get hit during a striker action, they will still have the same life from when they were hit when it's their time to fight.
Btw, I never need strikers to win, play me and I'll prove it. They are just fun.

PoOF!
((Striker Vanish))
 

NeoGML

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don't fall into the infinites then.

don't be hit by ground based attacks, don't let your opponent get close to you unless you've got something to give them.
 

GregN

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I'm not down with the strikers, either.

Why not just make it so when you do a motion, someone else comes out and does the move?

Ex. Playing Yuri, Do Haosodoken, and Takuma/Mr. Karate does it.
 
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