Anyone here use Ramon or Seth in 2k2?

Spike Spiegel · Dec 27, 2002

I use these two guys a lot. In fact, I use the whole 2000 team all together many times. Anyone else use them, or do you all think they blow like everyone else? <img src="graemlins/spock.gif" border="0" alt="[Spock]" />

Spike

Spike Spiegel · Dec 27, 2002

Um... TIGER BUUUUMMP!

Phoenix Down · Dec 27, 2002

I'm surprised, this is the first year that Ramon doesn't suck. He's actually a decent character with some good combos, like his grabs are easier to link with other moves. Seth is good as always, although I think he's been toned down a little form his 2000 and 2001 incarnations. He doesn't seem to have the priority he did the last 2 years...

Now Vanessa...holy shit did she get an upgrade! She is THE most improved character in 2002 IMO(she was already quite good). She still takes some practice, i.e. you can't just pick up and play her, but her moves and priority are just nuts. Which is fine by me, since I think Vanessa is the hottest woman in KoF these days.

Spike Spiegel · Dec 27, 2002

Actually, both Seth and Vanessa lost some easy combo starting moves... makes them harder to play as, but more rewarding. For instance, you could let both of the hits from a standing HP of Seth connect, and then do combos from it. The last two years, now, you cannot. Same with Vanessa. She could do the stanind HP, forward LP, and then combo. Now it knocks down (again, last two years). They are both very good, and very over looked.

Ramon may be turning into one of my top 5 characters.... we will see when I play more humans, but I can do some great stuff with him. He's got nice combos, good holds, and high priority moves. The new unblockable tiger load slam is nice as hell when someone isn't expecting. He's got great pressure moves, nice air attacking (can now triangle jump this year), good slams, and some nice combos. The only thing is a good anti air, but I find that a short jump up with his very strong/very fast CD works quite well.

Spike

EDIT: (video game dork mode activated) Also about Vanessa, she's got the best ass in the game <img src="graemlins/drool.gif" border="0" alt="[Drool]" />

[ December 27, 2002: Message edited by: Spike Spiegel ]

SNKJorge · Dec 27, 2002

I dislike Ramon, he is
one of the worst characters
ever in my book.

Devil_Gans · Dec 27, 2002

Ramon was actually pretty good to use in KOF 2000.In 2k2, he is better with some new moves and a DM which is an unblockable.He is actually better than what most people give him credit for.I use him more in 2k2.He has an interesting HSDM too which is decent.

Seth was Okay in 2000 and decent in 2k1 but he got slightly slower in 2k2.I didn't bother using him much.His HSDM sux.

[ December 27, 2002: Message edited by: Devil_Gans ]

Spike Spiegel · Dec 27, 2002

I use Seth because he's a good mind game player against humans... sadly, that's about all he can be good for now. I say that Ramon owns that team this year. Now, I know what you're going to say, but hear me out: I can pretty much tear through all three chars on level 8 with my Ramon. He can really own, and is great for pressuring human players, too.

Spike

Devil_Gans · Dec 27, 2002

Ramon and shingo have something in common.Both of them are underrated.They are both pretty good to use and they have damaging combos.Most people overlook them as either joke characters or lame.
Speaking of shingo, i wish he was there in 2k2.

[ December 27, 2002: Message edited by: Devil_Gans ]

tsukaesugi · Dec 27, 2002

OK, this isn't gameplay here, but...

I wish they'd put Ramon in a shirt, tie, and suspenders so he'd match his teammates. Vanessa and Seth look really good together, Ramon just doesn't fit in. They're the most mismatched team since Iori, Billy, and Eiji in KOF95.

Spike Spiegel · Dec 28, 2002

LOL... no no, I think it wouldn't be cool to see him in a tie. Besides, Seth and Vanessa were working together to uncover whatever the story for 2000 was, and that's why they sort of dress the same. Ramon, on the other hand, is a Mexican wrestler that isn't associated with them. Hell, I'm quite surprised he isn't wearing a mask now that I think about it.

Spike

Kid Aphex · Dec 28, 2002

Ramon is really a cool character.
I don't understand why anyone wouldn't like him...except for the fact he stinks in 2k1. I've yet to play as him in 2k2.....since i dont have it.

BUT I WILL TOMORROW.

In 2k i loved him; i like his story, cheesey or not; and I really think he's got a cool look to him. Reminds me of a GI Joe i had a long time ago.

Sticks · Dec 28, 2002

Ramon gets better over time. Especially when they added El Diablo Tiger Load, which is just an SDM version of Yellow Devil.

'Lord Yamazaki' · Dec 30, 2002

Originally posted by Phoenix Down:

Now Vanessa...holy shit did she get an upgrade! She is THE most improved character in 2002 IMO(she was already quite good). She still takes some practice, i.e. you can't just pick up and play her, but her moves and priority are just nuts. Which is fine by me, since I think Vanessa is the hottest woman in KoF these days. <hr></blockquote>Ahem, this is what it should really read...

Now Ramon...holy shit did he get an upgrade! He is THE most improved character in 2002 IMO(he was already quite good). He still takes some practice, i.e. you can't just pick up and play him, but his moves and priority are just nuts. Which is fine by me, since I think Ramon is the hottest man in KoF these days.

Spike Spiegel · Dec 30, 2002

Originally posted by 'Lord Yamazaki':
Ahem, this is what it should really read...

Now Ramon...holy shit did he get an upgrade! He is THE most improved character in 2002 IMO(he was already quite good). He still takes some practice, i.e. you can't just pick up and play him, but his moves and priority are just nuts. Which is fine by me, since I think Ramon is the hottest man in KoF these days. <hr></blockquote>

If they make Ramon any better, he'll have to be the boss next year. I can see it now... Omega Ramon.

All bullshit aside, he's top tier this year. Easily.

Spike

Phoenix Down · Dec 30, 2002

Originally posted by Spike Spiegel:


All bullshit aside, he's top tier this year. Easily.

Spike<hr></blockquote>

I'm not sure I'd go that far with him in 2002, but then again I've only played human opponents a few times and I'm still learning how to use him.

I need to find someone around here to own, er I mean play against me in this game.

Spike Spiegel · Dec 30, 2002

Originally posted by Phoenix Down:


I'm not sure I'd go that far with him in 2002, but then again I've only played human opponents a few times and I'm still learning how to use him.

I need to find someone around here to own, er I mean play against me in this game. <hr></blockquote>

His tiger neck chancerie seems to have a faster recovery this year. It grabs just as far as it used to, and you can do an EASY combo with a standing C, down/forwar B, and then snatch them in the TNC. His DP motion + kick must be blocked high, he's got a new tiger load unblockable, plus an unblockable super. He also has a new triangle jump, with a killer mid air CD, and is already very fast. Great jabs, good combos, and nice damage on his slams.

Spike

Tetsuo311 · Dec 30, 2002

Wow Spike I thought you were alot cooler than that

Honestly though this might be the first time I EVER agree with Too Short on anything. If it wasn't for Bao this guy would go down as the worst character in KOF history.

Tetsuo

Tetsuo311 · Dec 30, 2002

Hey spike pm me If you want to play a game of Mech Assault <img src="graemlins/glee.gif" border="0" alt="[Glee]" />

Spike Spiegel · Dec 30, 2002

Worst character? I could walk all over you with him... promise. <img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" /> I think his design is pretty cool (neat stance), and this year he is awesome.

Oh, I don't have Mech Assault, sadly. I just play NBA2k3 and Moto for now.

Spike

Tetsuo311 · Dec 30, 2002

Spike *cough* *cough* did you say Moto Gp <img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" /> I'll look for your gamer tag next time I pull a wheelie across the finish line.

Spike Spiegel · Dec 30, 2002

Originally posted by Tetsuo311:
Spike *cough* *cough* did you say Moto Gp <img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" /> I'll look for your gamer tag next time I pull a wheelie across the finish line.<hr></blockquote>

Sweet. Just go into your xbox live and put my name in and add to friend's list. If you are going to be on tonight, I'll play. Spike Spiegel 2

Spike

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