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Tarma
07-29-2002, 01:41 PM
Some info for you all regarding the AES. This info came direct from Playmore, and is just an abrideged version of an email I recieved.

First off, Playmore have no plans whatsoever to sell or produce snap-lock cases for individual purchase. They're classed as an individual component part of the AES cart (just like the chips). Playmore's stance is that they will not supply anyone (and I do mean anyone) with individual AES component parts.

Collectors breath a sigh of relief. Playmore will not be releasing or indeed re-releasing any of SNK's back catalogue. So those of you hoping to see Metal Slug or Blazing Star re-released on AES - forget it. It's never going to happen.

MVS only titles will remain like that. So no official releases of Zupapa, Strikers 1945 or SDB (to name but a few).

Although Playmore will not comment on games currently in development or confirm what they're working on, they have said that they are seriously considering developing MVS titles outside the fighting genre. So the possibility of new Big Tournament Golf's, Blazing Star's, and Super Sidekicks is not too remote at all.

Playmore ARE taking legal action against a certain outfit based in Las Vegas that stamp inserts, ruin inserts, and can't deliver what they promise. Future Episodes of Judge Judy should be most interesting...

That is all....

For now <img src="graemlins/glee.gif" border="0" alt="[Glee]" /> <img src="graemlins/glee.gif" border="0" alt="[Glee]" /> <img src="graemlins/glee.gif" border="0" alt="[Glee]" />

toy_brain
07-29-2002, 01:53 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Tarma:
<strong>Playmore ARE taking legal action against a certain outfit based in Las Vegas that stamp inserts, ruin inserts, and can't deliver what they promise. Future Episodes of Judge Judy should be most interesting...

</strong><hr></blockquote>
YYYEEEESSSSSSSS!!!!!!
Nice one, However, are they also persuing legal action against a very nice man in Canada who converts MVS games to AES, puts them in lovely boxes, does not rip people off and does a good job of the conversion?

Hope not......

Orpheus
07-29-2002, 02:23 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Tarma:
<strong>First off, Playmore have no plans whatsoever to sell or produce snap-lock cases for individual purchase. They're classed as an individual component part of the AES cart (just like the chips). Playmore's stance is that they will not supply anyone (and I do mean anyone) with individual AES component parts.

Collectors breath a sigh of relief. Playmore will not be releasing or indeed re-releasing any of SNK's back catalogue. So those of you hoping to see Metal Slug or Blazing Star re-released on AES - forget it. It's never going to happen.

MVS only titles will remain like that. So no official releases of Zupapa, Strikers 1945 or SDB (to name but a few).

For now <img src="graemlins/glee.gif" border="0" alt="[Glee]" /> <img src="graemlins/glee.gif" border="0" alt="[Glee]" /> <img src="graemlins/glee.gif" border="0" alt="[Glee]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Fuck off guy. I would love to see titles re-released or MVS only titles brought home. fuck the collectors. this shit is not an investment. learn how to play the stock market.

[ July 29, 2002: Message edited by: ORPHEUS ]</p>

VanillaThunder
07-29-2002, 02:24 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Tarma:
<strong>Playmore ARE taking legal action against a certain outfit based in Las Vegas that stamp inserts, ruin inserts, and can't deliver what they promise. Future Episodes of Judge Judy should be most interesting...

</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yes, Virginia... there *IS* a Santa Claus.


Guess all that paperwork doesn't exist? Or is that freaked too? lol!!!

well, all I have to say is... they had it coming and I hope it goes through. I don't wish ill will on anyone really, I just want them to stop their freaking destruction. A cease and desist order would do me just fine.

I don't think they can do anything about that though, as they own the stock they have and can do what they please with it. I think all it will stop is the conversions and prototype releases and if they buy direct, they can't redo the packaging.


Here's to blind faith. (in Playmore and the legal system.. not the shitty 80's song..)

David Koresh
07-29-2002, 02:27 PM
thank you orpheus-finally a voice of reason

Daisuke Jigen
07-29-2002, 02:32 PM
Wait a minute....

BTG2....?

My life will be complete.... <img src="graemlins/crying.gif" border="0" alt="[Crying]" />

Caris Nautilus
07-29-2002, 02:35 PM
[quote]Originally posted by ORPHEUS:
<strong>

Fuck you guy. I would love to see titles re-released or MVS only titles brought home. fuck the collectors. this shit is not an investment. learn how to play the stock market.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I would love to see games like Metal Slug AES re-released on homecart.

Then watch how fucking fast 90% of these homecart jokers throw their shit up on eBay and leave the Neo like a cheap hooker.

Re-release all the rare games, and the Neo will fucking bottom out like Magic the Gathering did back in 95-96 after they re-released all the rare cards, 3 monthes after they did that shit NO ONE played anymore, we went from like 30+ people playing in friday nights to like 8-10, it was real sad.

DangerousK
07-29-2002, 07:08 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Drift King EX:
<strong>

Then watch how fucking fast 90% of these homecart jokers throw their shit up on eBay and leave the Neo like a cheap hooker.

</strong><hr></blockquote>

I agree to. I would laugh for a week straight at all the people who paid over $1500 for Metal Slug 1.

These people don't deserve to own Neo carts when they just stick it on their shelf in a plastic baggie and never touch it again. Most normal people buy games to play. It's not a fucking investment. <img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" />

Atro
07-29-2002, 07:20 PM
I agree but the first release of Metal Slu will ever be more valuable than a 2nd run one.

Wanna a example ?? look at the japanese Metal Slug 3. The 2nd run is less valuable ( even it's not that much! ).

But the 1st run of Metal Slug 1 will always be considered a rare cart as long as it is considered as a "1st run" one.

I don't see too many selling their carts off even if that would going to happen.

I consider myself a firstly a player then a collector.

Neo Geo is the true world of gaming, first run or not, what matters to me is the fun only. :rolleyes:

less than joseph
07-29-2002, 07:28 PM
[quote]
Playmore ARE taking legal action against a certain outfit based in Las Vegas that stamp inserts, ruin inserts, and can't deliver what they promise. Future Episodes of Judge Judy should be most interesting...

That is all....

For now <img src="graemlins/glee.gif" border="0" alt="[Glee]" /> <img src="graemlins/glee.gif" border="0" alt="[Glee]" /> <img src="graemlins/glee.gif" border="0" alt="[Glee]" /> [/QB]<hr></blockquote>

eeeeexcellent
-joseph

TonK
07-29-2002, 07:34 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Drift King EX:
<strong>

Re-release all the rare games, and the Neo will fucking bottom out like Magic the Gathering did back in 95-96 after they re-released all the rare cards, 3 monthes after they did that shit NO ONE played anymore, we went from like 30+ people playing in friday nights to like 8-10, it was real sad.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Dude, you played Magic!

HAAA HAAHHAAAAHHAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

less than joseph
07-29-2002, 07:39 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Drift King EX:
<strong> we went from like 30+ people playing in friday nights to like 8-10, it was real sad.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Sad? no. Fucking hilarious? yes.
-joseph

Tiptonium
07-29-2002, 07:45 PM
Thanks for the update Tarma.

Takuma79
07-29-2002, 11:40 PM
Hi i'm new to the whole neo geo thing, to be honest I purchesed a neo of a friend with metal slug 2 for $150 and was told that I'd never find a deal like that again, recently I've bought a few carts and stuff then another friend told me of this place, but thats not important, what i want to know is, who is this company in las vagus, and why is he being sued by playmore?

as for people selling their stuff on ebay if playmore decides to re-release older AES carts
i say great more for the gamers,

[ July 29, 2002: Message edited by: Takuma79 ]</p>

Loopz
07-30-2002, 04:48 AM
[quote]Fuck off guy. I would love to see titles re-released or MVS only titles brought home. fuck the collectors. this shit is not an investment. learn how to play the stock market.

<hr></blockquote>

Dude, that's some sour grapes shit if I ever saw it. The fact is, if you want Metal Slug, you can get it for $50. There's this magical thing called MVS. It renders all that 'collector' bullshit you rail about MOOT. You wanna blame someone for the high prices, blame the dumbasses out there who are willing to shell out $1500+ for one game. The way I see it, those crazy values for the '96 games are kind of a misguided 'reward' for those who stuck by the Neo's side when the sexier PS and Saturn reared their heads instead of dumping their shit and going next-gen. I, like many folks, dumped mine for the likes of Ridge Racer and Street Fighter Alpha, and came to regret it later. Am I crying now because I don't have a Slug 1? Hell no. 'Cause if all you want is the games, you'd do like I do and grab a Sigma, a 4-slot, and enjoy the good shit. If you start talking about how cool the insert, art, and English manuals are, than you're just as concerned about the collector angle as much as the schmuck paying $1600. The only difference is that you don't have the cash, and that's why you're bitter.

Kid Aphex
07-30-2002, 04:57 AM
loopz is exactly right in this. your badwill wish is only out of jealousy. if you can play the games for cheap on MVS, why care if someone gets kicks out of paying the money for the AES?

plus your avatar is wicked queer, Orpheus.

flame on,
ray

Atro
07-30-2002, 05:13 AM
[quote]Originally posted by Takuma79:
<strong>Hi i'm new to the whole neo geo thing, to be honest I purchesed a neo of a friend with metal slug 2 for $150 and was told that I'd never find a deal like that again, recently I've bought a few carts and stuff then another friend told me of this place, but thats not important, what i want to know is, who is this company in las vagus, and why is he being sued by playmore?

as for people selling their stuff on ebay if playmore decides to re-release older AES carts
i say great more for the gamers,

[ July 29, 2002: Message edited by: Takuma79 ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't this a fake account ?

Just because everytime we talk about the "Las vegas" company, a new account happears around these boards.

Like I said, forgive me if I'm wrong. :rolleyes:

Tarma
07-30-2002, 06:09 AM
Personally I'd love to see AES re-releases of SNK's back catalogue, but Playmore aren't interested.

Probably the exercise would be too costly for them and they wouldn't make any money out of it. If they thought it would make them money they'd be falling over themselves to re-release Metal Slug on home cart.

It's never going to happen though. So you've either got to wait until the whole AES market bottoms out (which it will eventually) or you go MVS like Loopz says. Or get the DC version...

Regardless, I was very happy to read to that Playmore are considering releasing something other than KoF games and piss poor Metal Slug rehashes.
:)

candycab
07-30-2002, 06:22 AM
All the AES fans here might as well face reality !

There wont be any AES releases of any sort no matter how much you beg and plead !

There is almost 0 market for new AES games !

Hell in that respect they might as well make ATARI 2600 games while they are at it !

Best case scenereo new MVS titles , I will believe it when I see it though !


but since thats where the money is thats where they will put their effort.

I for one welcome new non fighters with open arms , fighters are cool but its getting kind of old ! IMHO

dfx
07-30-2002, 07:34 AM
[QB]All the AES fans here might as well face reality !

There wont be any AES releases of any sort no matter how much you beg and plead !


OH MAN, YOUR A FORTUNETELLER!
CAN YOU TELL ME MY FORTUNE TOO?
..........
NO NEW AES TITLES HUH?

WHAT IS RAGE OF THE DRAGONS ?
OR THE ALLREADY CONFIRMED

KOF 2002 OR

SNK VS CAPCOM ?

NO AES HUH?
......

Thunderfoot
07-30-2002, 08:10 AM
[quote]Originally posted by Tarma:
<strong>

Probably the exercise would be too costly for them and they wouldn't make any money out of it. If they thought it would make them money they'd be falling over themselves to re-release Metal Slug on home cart.

</strong><hr></blockquote>

I don't think it would be costly for them and they would make money from it. There is a lot of demand for Metal Slug AES, that's why its price is so high. Personally I think it a shame that they released the pile of shit that is Metal Slug 4 on AES, when they could have used the money to make MS Aes. http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/icons/icon19.gif

Takuma79
07-30-2002, 08:20 AM
Atrophyed you're forgivin, i'm no fake, i'm just a guy in boston area that know little about the politicsl background of the neo geo, personaly I thought I'd be stuck with only metal slug 2 when I heard snk went out, i got the system about 1 year before that announcement, the reason I say i'm new is cause after i beat MS2 and had no other games to play i put my neo away till I saw AoF 1&2 on ebay for like 20-30 bucks each
then i got really interested in it again, so my friend got me magician lord for my b-day ,my bro and his fiancee also got me kof 2001 and aof 3 for my bday, and I just got samurai shodown 1 and 2 for $50 about a few weeks ago, as you can see i've been grabbing what i could for cheap, thats when the guy who got me magicianlord told me of this place, said that i could get a lot of kick ass games dfor both my AES and NGPC for decent prices.

candycab
07-30-2002, 08:45 AM
Like I said DFX I will believe it when I see it !

I guess what you are saying is that there is a market for them ? I think not !

Remeber this is all based on profit! there is no profit developing games for a dead console !
Which the AES is !

I would be willing to bet that the only reason they released ROTD on the AES is beacuse it has been in development for so long.

They have probably been working on it since before SNK folded ! so why wouldnt they try to sell what they have produced ?

Game development usually takes around 16 months at the fastest. from what I have read and seen anyway.

And who knows ? they may have only had 3 people working on it ?

I would imagine there were more, but who knows ?

Tarma
07-30-2002, 10:23 AM
[quote]Originally posted by Thunderfoot:
<strong>

I don't think it would be costly for them and they would make money from it. There is a lot of demand for Metal Slug AES, that's why its price is so high. Personally I think it a shame that they released the pile of shit that is Metal Slug 4 on AES, when they could have used the money to make MS Aes. http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/icons/icon19.gif</strong><hr></blockquote>

I don't quite think you have a grip of finance do you? Do you realise exactly how many carts Playmore would have to produce and sell of any one particular title to just break even? Even then there is no gurantee that those carts will all sell.

If Shawn still has several hundred Metal Slug 3 US carts sitting in his stock room nearly two years after the game was released, do you really think Playmore are going to shift enough Metal Slug AES carts to make it pay? They would probably need to sell over a thousand carts...

It ain't gonna happen. The cheapest way of getting Metal Slug is going to Japan to buy it personally or buy it on MVS/CD.

Caris Nautilus
07-30-2002, 10:33 AM
[quote]Originally posted by TonK:
<strong>


Dude, you played Magic!

HAAA HAAHHAAAAHHAAAAAAAAAA!!!!</strong><hr></blockquote>

In 8th grade I did, what's so funny about it? It used to be a fun game, when I was in 8th grade.

You used to collect AES carts, and you're like 20, I find that pretty funny, cause anyone who does needs to be admitted to a hospital. I can see a rich kid wasting money on those damn things, but grown men should have more common sense about the worth of money, and not waste it on hunks of worthless plastic.

I'm sure I could find more people who would find spending 800 dollars on a videogame a lot funnier than playing Magic anyday. Besides you collect AES for yourself, we used to play Magic because the other people made it fun, it was just to hang out.

Anyways, BOOOOOOOOOOONG.

dfx
07-30-2002, 01:09 PM
if there were no market for aes games
then how would you explain the confirmation
for kof 02 and SvsC aes?

or the release of kof 01 and ms4 ?

no i think they make still good money out
of the aes market.

an developement of 18 month??
with the 12 years old neo geo hardware??

NEVER!
think it over once more!

DangerousK
07-30-2002, 01:17 PM
Just curious, but if someone was willing to commission Playmore to re-release say 300 US copies of MS1, would they do it?

Neo Mike
07-30-2002, 01:29 PM
I'd suggest you shoot a mail to info@playmore.co.jp They always respond ;)

You'd get the straight scoop that way too

TonK
07-30-2002, 03:43 PM
[quote]Originally posted by DangerousK:
<strong>Just curious, but if someone was willing to commission Playmore to re-release say 300 US copies of MS1, would they do it?</strong><hr></blockquote>

I know for a fact, yes.

ANY game can be re-released, all you have to do is show them the money and it can be yours.

Why commission them to release 300 more copies of Slug 1?

It will never sell...

As long as they have their money, you can get the games.

You might sell like 100 copies.

Basically its a waste of money.

TonK
07-30-2002, 03:46 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Drift King EX:
<strong>

In 8th grade I did, what's so funny about it? </strong><hr></blockquote>

Its fucking gay, thats what makes it funny.

Caris Nautilus
07-30-2002, 03:57 PM
[quote]Originally posted by TonK:
<strong>

Its fucking gay, thats what makes it funny.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Just cause you were shoplifting 2 Pac CD's in 8th grade, don't mean you gotta fade other people...

BTW didn't you buy a TSS cart from Dion and then cry when it had a NGF stamp?, like you were any different from the countless other suckers he scammed. Now that's gay. ;)

[ July 30, 2002: Message edited by: Drift King EX ]</p>

TonK
07-30-2002, 04:00 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Drift King EX:
<strong>

Just cause you were shoplifting 2 Pac CD's in 8th grade, don't mean you gotta fade Magic...

BTW didn't you buy a TSS cart from Dion and then cry when it had a NGF stamp?, like you were any different from the countless other suckers he scammed. Now that's gay. ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

Good comeback dicksmoke.

Evil Wasabi
07-30-2002, 04:08 PM
man tonk. whats your problem?

first you proclaim to be 'a man of truth'.

then you call pbc out about not buying his all shit, and were completely fucking wrong.

now you bag on magic? and you say buying metal slug 1 aes is more sane?

so ~$1800 on one game is more sane than $10 for a pack of cards?

not to mention people have to have FRIENDS to play magic, something you probably never had, and thats why you dont like it. cuz no one wants to play with little tonky, because hes an ass hole.

TonK
07-30-2002, 04:10 PM
[quote]Originally posted by sonic1687:
<strong>man tonk. whats your problem?

first you proclaim to be 'a man of truth'.

then you call pbc out about not buying his all shit, and were completely fucking wrong.

now you bag on magic? and you say buying metal slug 1 aes is more sane?

so ~$1800 on one game is more sane than $10 for a pack of cards?

not to mention people have to have FRIENDS to play magic, something you probably never had, and thats why you dont like it. cuz no one wants to play with little tonky, because hes an ass hole.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Man, shut the fuck up you little nerd.

PBC DIDN'T BUY ALL OF HIS GAMES.

VanillaThunder
07-30-2002, 04:11 PM
Magic is nothing more than Pokemon with more extravagant artwork...

TonK
07-30-2002, 04:12 PM
[quote]Originally posted by sonic1687:
<strong>so ~$1800 on one game is more sane than $10 for a pack of cards?

</strong><hr></blockquote>


Yeah its more sane when you sell the fucker for $2200.

Ask AnaK about MY Friends, you punk ass kid.

Evil Wasabi
07-30-2002, 05:11 PM
what do you care if pbc bought his games or not anyway?

HE ONLY 16!

his parents better buy him shit.

oh wait, i guess it because your parents never bought you anything.

probably because they didnt love you.

thats too bad, because its nice to have parents that love you.

they probably dumped your ass out on the street when you were fucking 12. hell, who wouldnt.


as far a pokemon - magic goes, dont even get me started.

saying magic is just like pokemon is the most IGNORANT thing you can possibly say.

in pokemon, you play with prizes, the first to win all the prizes wins. you do this by killing the opponents pokemon. in 1 on 1 battles. and you can play cards only on your turn, based on rules for each card type.

in magic on the other hand, the point of the game is to damage your opponent to get his life down to zero, you start at 20. there are many different card types, all which have different rules. creatures, enchantments, artifacts, lands, sorceries, instants, and interrupts.

you can take many different stratigies, such as white weenies (where you play mostly white, and build a deck of small low cost creatures and healing spells), counter burn (a few strong creatures, tons of burn and counter spells, red and blue) black control (all black, NO creatures, madd mana. you basically control the game to everything short of countering stuff.) or you could just play an any color (out of the 5 red, white, blue green and black)beat down deck which is a deck of all creatures and you just attack your opponent till they die.

its really very complicated, and there are TONS of other strategies you can take, liek a squirrel token deck, all artifact etc.

its nothing like magic short of its played with cards, and its made by wizards.

TonK
07-30-2002, 06:30 PM
[quote]Originally posted by sonic1687:
<strong>what do you care if pbc bought his games or not anyway?

HE ONLY 16!

his parents better buy him shit.

oh wait, i guess it because your parents never bought you anything.

probably because they didnt love you.

thats too bad, because its nice to have parents that love you.

they probably dumped your ass out on the street when you were fucking 12. hell, who wouldnt.


</strong><hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" />

TheBigBB
07-30-2002, 07:02 PM
This flame war is stupid shit.

Just a point on magic: yeah I think it's stupid too, but I personally know (lost touch but I could easily contact him) the national MTG champion, and he makes tens of thousands of dollars in prize money. I'm not joking, either. I went to school with him.

Fran
07-30-2002, 07:29 PM
magic is fookin stupid

magic is fookin shite

Takuma79
07-30-2002, 07:32 PM
man I may be new, but i can already tell that there is a lot of hostile blood on this board,

as for magic, those who make fun of it or say its stupid, i respect your opinions but i also think its cause you guys know nothing of the game,man if its anything like D&D I'll try it sometime and even if i don't like it i wont make fun of those who do,
for years I've been made fun of cause I play D&D
and most of the people that made fun of me are people who chose to ignorant of the creativity it took to play it, and if you want an example of its creativity watch RECORD OF LODOSS WAR, cause it was based of a campaign the five collage guys played in japan,

and those who make fun of me for this just wait you'll get your turns in the end not necessary by me either i say this cause what comes around goes around, and the one dishing it out at first is the one who always gets bit in the ass

Galford Forever
07-30-2002, 07:36 PM
The funny thing is that if it weren't for Magic I wouldn't have an AES :) .

I was into Magic from the very beginning, and then the game started to get super popular. I found that I had all these rare expensive cards and my interest in Magic was waning.

Anyway, I had recently gotten Sam Sho 1 for Genny and loved that to death. So much so that I really really wanted the sequel which was only available on Neo.

So, I sold my Magic cards.. made a boat load of money and bought a brand-spanking-new AES + Sam Sho 2.

Best decision I ever made :) .

Fran
07-30-2002, 07:54 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Takuma79:
<strong>man I may be new, but i can already tell that there is a lot of hostile blood on this board,

as for magic, those who make fun of it or say its stupid, i respect your opinions but i also think its cause you guys know nothing of the game,man if its anything like D&D I'll try it sometime and even if i don't like it i wont make fun of those who do,
for years I've been made fun of cause I play D&D
and most of the people that made fun of me are people who chose to ignorant of the creativity it took to play it, and if you want an example of its creativity watch RECORD OF LODOSS WAR, cause it was based of a campaign the five collage guys played in japan,

and those who make fun of me for this just wait you'll get your turns in the end not necessary by me either i say this cause what comes around goes around, and the one dishing it out at first is the one who always gets bit in the ass</strong><hr></blockquote>

you're right man

we're nothing but a bunch of immature cunts

really

its true

Takuma79
07-30-2002, 07:57 PM
now I never said that you were immature cunts, but I see a few that could learn to be a little more understanding of others

Edit: And before any1 says anything NO i;m not a hippie

[ July 30, 2002: Message edited by: Takuma79 ]</p>

Caris Nautilus
07-30-2002, 08:55 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Fran:
<strong>magic is fookin stupid

magic is fookin shite</strong><hr></blockquote>

fran STFU, you idolize videogame girls that don't exist and collect mahjong games, thats fucking shite AND stoopid.

STONE ROSES 4 ever!

Criterionradiohead
07-30-2002, 10:11 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Tarma:
<strong>Some info for you all regarding the AES. This info came direct from Playmore, and is just an abrideged version of an email I recieved.

First off, Playmore have no plans whatsoever to sell or produce snap-lock cases for individual purchase. They're classed as an individual component part of the AES cart (just like the chips). Playmore's stance is that they will not supply anyone (and I do mean anyone) with individual AES component parts.

Collectors breath a sigh of relief. Playmore will not be releasing or indeed re-releasing any of SNK's back catalogue. So those of you hoping to see Metal Slug or Blazing Star re-released on AES - forget it. It's never going to happen.

MVS only titles will remain like that. So no official releases of Zupapa, Strikers 1945 or SDB (to name but a few).

Although Playmore will not comment on games currently in development or confirm what they're working on, they have said that they are seriously considering developing MVS titles outside the fighting genre. So the possibility of new Big Tournament Golf's, Blazing Star's, and Super Sidekicks is not too remote at all.

Playmore ARE taking legal action against a certain outfit based in Las Vegas that stamp inserts, ruin inserts, and can't deliver what they promise. Future Episodes of Judge Judy should be most interesting...

That is all....

For now <img src="graemlins/glee.gif" border="0" alt="[Glee]" /> <img src="graemlins/glee.gif" border="0" alt="[Glee]" /> <img src="graemlins/glee.gif" border="0" alt="[Glee]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>


I don't want to be overly harsh with this post, but WHAT THE FUCK!!!

NGF can post something like this and there are 20 people right there to pick apart their post and try to analyze where they are lying. I'm not saying that is a bad thing at all, especially when your dealing with low life scum such as NGF. But when a post like this comes along and blatantly says "abrideged version of an email" I can't help but scream hypocrisy!!!

Tarma, this is not in any way an attack against you, nor is it me supporting NGF (I truly do hate those lying fucks), but come on a little evidence please. Am I the only on here who isn't just taking this post for what it is???

To everyone else, don't flame me for this. You seriously should have thought of this and said something earlier.

To Chris and Dion, I have never personally met you, spoke with you, or dealt with you. But just from the countless stories, the idiotic and rude posts, etc. I know I don't like you and I hope to God that Playmore brings the hammer down on your asses (no pun intended).

Criterionradiohead ;)


P.S.

Magic used to RAWK!!! It really went downhill after Homelands......god even before then. It started getting bad with all the rehash sets after revised (3rd edition I think???).

[ July 30, 2002: Message edited by: Criterionradiohead ]</p>

VanillaThunder
07-30-2002, 10:40 PM
[quote]Originally posted by sonic1687:
<strong>

as far a pokemon - magic goes, dont even get me started.

saying magic is just like pokemon is the most IGNORANT thing you can possibly say.

</strong><hr></blockquote>

Are ya sitting around a table playing an imaginary game with cards "battling"? Do you collect the cards and resell them?

Sound like they've got the same basic concept to me.

Michael Yagami
07-30-2002, 10:41 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Tarma:
<strong>Playmore ARE taking legal action against a certain outfit based in Las Vegas that stamp inserts, ruin inserts, and can't deliver what they promise. Future Episodes of Judge Judy should be most interesting...

That is all....

For now <img src="graemlins/glee.gif" border="0" alt="[Glee]" /> <img src="graemlins/glee.gif" border="0" alt="[Glee]" /> <img src="graemlins/glee.gif" border="0" alt="[Glee]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Justice, thy name be PLAYMORE. Now, if I had any faith whatsoever in the legal system I'd be jumping for joy.

Yagami

Evil Wasabi
07-31-2002, 12:08 AM
[quote]Originally posted by VanillaThunder:
<strong>

Are ya sitting around a table playing an imaginary game with cards "battling"? Do you collect the cards and resell them?

Sound like they've got the same basic concept to me.</strong><hr></blockquote>

the gameplay is entirely different

did you even read my post?

people that wont play magic/pen and paper rpgs are the close minded losers.

d&d is awesome.

magic rocks.

criterionradiohead - homelands, the dark, fallen empires etc. really did suck, but man, urza's saga/legacy and destiny kicked ass.

the newly released judgement is pretty cool too.

i have a madd cool game locking combo. i never got to use it yet. all the cards in it are restriced (only 1 per deck) :(

tonk, i loved your witty reply. <img src="graemlins/loco.gif" border="0" alt="[Loco]" />

dosdemon
07-31-2002, 12:49 AM
[quote]people that wont play magic/pen and paper rpgs are the close minded losers.
<hr></blockquote>

haven't commented in this thread yet, but this comment makes me feel the need to, as this guy is basically calling EVERYBODY who doesen't like what he likes ignorant.

It's not that I don't play magic/pen paper rpgs because I'm a "close minded loser" as you put it... They're just not my bag, baby. I'm not going to bash folks who do play them because I have a few good friends who are into that sort of thing, and I AM NOT IGNORANT. I'd rather spend time with friends playing shodown 2 and motw, or playing ddr at the arcade. just because someone doesen't like what you like doesen't make them a "close minded loser", it makes them someone whose tastes differ from your own.

EDIT: grammar

[ July 31, 2002: Message edited by: dosdemon ]

[ July 31, 2002: Message edited by: dosdemon ]</p>

ForeverSublime
07-31-2002, 01:10 AM
[quote]Originally posted by Drift King EX:
<strong>

I'm sure I could find more people who would find spending 800 dollars on a videogame a lot funnier than playing Magic anyday. </strong><hr></blockquote>

boo-hiss... nothing wrong with paying that much as long as you play the games. I don't buy AES, but there are some old arcade games without home console ports that I buy for a pretty penny.

I was a star wars ccg player :)

ForeverSublime
07-31-2002, 01:35 AM
Heh... I didn't realize this thread had turned into a CCG war.

I never thought these card games would be fun... they looked incredibly stupid to me. Then my mom got me a starter box of star wars ccg cards for christmas. I played it a few times... introduced it to my friends, and they liked it too. swccg plays a lot like final fantasy tactics (or any strategized-battle RPG), but with cards. There is really no difference, except you save your eyes a lot of trouble.

Pen and paper AD+D on the otherhand, I will never understand. <img src="graemlins/loco.gif" border="0" alt="[Loco]" />

Tarma
07-31-2002, 04:38 AM
[quote]Originally posted by Criterionradiohead:
<strong>


I don't want to be overly harsh with this post, but WHAT THE FUCK!!!

NGF can post something like this and there are 20 people right there to pick apart their post and try to analyze where they are lying. I'm not saying that is a bad thing at all, especially when your dealing with low life scum such as NGF. But when a post like this comes along and blatantly says "abrideged version of an email" I can't help but scream hypocrisy!!!

Tarma, this is not in any way an attack against you, nor is it me supporting NGF (I truly do hate those lying fucks), but come on a little evidence please. Am I the only on here who isn't just taking this post for what it is???

To everyone else, don't flame me for this. You seriously should have thought of this and said something earlier.

To Chris and Dion, I have never personally met you, spoke with you, or dealt with you. But just from the countless stories, the idiotic and rude posts, etc. I know I don't like you and I hope to God that Playmore brings the hammer down on your asses (no pun intended).

Criterionradiohead ;)


P.S.

Magic used to RAWK!!! It really went downhill after Homelands......god even before then. It started getting bad with all the rehash sets after revised (3rd edition I think???).

[ July 30, 2002: Message edited by: Criterionradiohead ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

I understand what you're trying to imply and why, but the fact of the matter is that email contained information which I wish to keep to myself and thus the original email is not available for public consumption.

I have no reason to lie or BS. My original post doesn't attack NGF it merely confirms that Playmore are aware of NGF's activities, are less than pleased with what they see and are taking legal action. More than likely this is for copyright infringement something NGF are blatantly guilty of.

If you don't believe me email Playmore and ask them yourself. They'll confirm EVERYTHING I put in the original post. Plus if that info was BS why isn't Chris here defending NGF like he usually does? Why? Because he can't sleaze his way out of this one. Whether or not this goes as far as the courts remains to be seen, but it'll certainly affect the way NGF operates with regard to their bootlegging activities.

By the way Playmore will be very grateful for any information or material you put their way in regard to NGF :D

I don't have any myself because I've never dealt with them, but those of you who want retribution for past dealings - now's your chance.

BTW - wtf is magic and why is it hijacking my thread?? <img src="graemlins/spock.gif" border="0" alt="[Spock]" /> :mad:

Fran
07-31-2002, 06:06 AM
[quote]Originally posted by Drift King EX:
<strong>

fran STFU, you idolize videogame girls that don't exist and collect mahjong games, thats fucking shite AND stoopid.

STONE ROSES 4 ever!</strong><hr></blockquote>


I’m free to say whatever i, whatever i like

and i’ll sing the blues if i want

mahjong games are cool as ice

i have learnt the rules so i play them,so STFU

go out and buy kof 2000 for your dc

now that the game is coming out for the dreamcast,
you will start praising it like the little bitch you are

hehe

Setsuna1982
07-31-2002, 06:12 AM
Finally another game that is NOT a fighting game...
-Sonic...
-Castlevania...
-Megaman...
-┐Magician Lord 2?

Evil Wasabi
07-31-2002, 10:02 AM
[quote]Originally posted by dosdemon:
<strong>

haven't commented in this thread yet, but this comment makes me feel the need to, as this guy is basically calling EVERYBODY who doesen't like what he likes ignorant.

It's not that I don't play magic/pen paper rpgs because I'm a "close minded loser" as you put it... They're just not my bag, baby. I'm not going to bash folks who do play them because I have a few good friends who are into that sort of thing, and I AM NOT IGNORANT. I'd rather spend time with friends playing shodown 2 and motw, or playing ddr at the arcade. just because someone doesen't like what you like doesen't make them a "close minded loser", it makes them someone whose tastes differ from your own.

EDIT: grammar

[ July 31, 2002: Message edited by: dosdemon ]

[ July 31, 2002: Message edited by: dosdemon ]</strong><hr></blockquote>


sorry. it didnt come out right.

i meant that wont try, or even look at it, aqnd just write it off right away.

friends? <img src="graemlins/glee.gif" border="0" alt="[Glee]" />

td741
07-31-2002, 10:41 AM
Umm... Neo-Geo Castlevania... <img src="graemlins/drool2.gif" border="0" alt="[Drool 2]" />

I initially bought my Dreamcast because of Konami's announcement of Castlevania for it. Then it got canned. <img src="graemlins/crying.gif" border="0" alt="[Crying]" />

Anyway, people who laugh at other people's hobbies need to take a good look at themselves and sort out their own problems. All your doing is trying to give yourself a pat on the back for not doing anything with your life.

Yes I've tried Magic, it's a fun game, but I see it more like a card game like any others.

I've played pen and paper RPG's, mostly using the GURPS System. It was a casual thing, we'd meet up once a month or so and generally try these most off-the-wall things.

And now I make/collect props.

Are people that collect sports cards any better then those collecting stamps? Are the Butterfly collectors better then the gun collectors? Are fanfic writers any worse then people who paint wilderness scenes? Are the video-game players any better then bird watchers?

I tend to personally prefer hobbies that require some creativity. Allows you to develop some skills. But that's me. If others like to spend their time watching every movie that comes out then that's fine by me.

As long as your hobby isn't causing problems for you or the people around you then I fail to see the problem with it. Yes, some people are obsessed with things, and perhaps they should just take a step back to put things into perspective. Yet, not everyone in a hobby is a "die hard".

Hmm... A little wordy. ;)

chrisr
07-31-2002, 10:50 AM
I dont read these worthless threads, but someone pointed me to this one in regard to some loser claiming to hear that Playmore is planning legal action against NGF.

This is 100% garbage. Yes, Playmore contacted NGF, as we said they did, we responded. I could tell you who we talked to, and what was said, but it would be worthless, as all you would hear is "Yea Right". Dion and I used to constantly laugh to ourselves when we were in Japan, saying "no one will ever believe we just had dinner with the president of SNK" or "Who will ever believe we are here cleaning out actual store-rooms and stock piles". The fact is people have probably heard about 30% of what we have done, and seen about 25% of what we actually have in terms of Neo Geo collectables/goods. We could show something new, never before seen by you wanna-be collectors, every day for probably the next 3 years, but why waste the time for crybabies.

Suffice it to say Playmore and NGF have no problems.

Thanks,

ChrisR

Tarma
07-31-2002, 10:59 AM
[quote]Originally posted by chrisr:
<strong>I dont read these worthless threads, but someone pointed me to this one in regard to some loser claiming to hear that Playmore is planning legal action against NGF.

This is 100% garbage. Yes, Playmore contacted NGF, as we said they did, we responded. I could tell you who we talked to, and what was said, but it would be worthless, as all you would hear is "Yea Right". Dion and I used to constantly laugh to ourselves when we were in Japan, saying "no one will ever believe we just had dinner with the president of SNK" or "Who will ever believe we are here cleaning out actual store-rooms and stock piles". The fact is people have probably heard about 30% of what we have done, and seen about 25% of what we actually have in terms of Neo Geo collectables/goods. We could show something new, never before seen by you wanna-be collectors, every day for probably the next 3 years, but why waste the time for crybabies.

Suffice it to say Playmore and NGF have no problems.

Thanks,

ChrisR</strong><hr></blockquote>

Go fuck yourself asshole.

I'm a lawyer and Playmore ARE taking legal action against you. It's a fact. So go drop dead.

I was prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt over your past, but now I know you're a big fat lier.

No problems between NGF and Playmore?? That's a joke isn't it?

You're black listed for starters, and they won't supply you with anything.... Yeah, I'd say you were on GREAT terms with Playmore.

Gee, I wish I could live in a fantasy world like you Chris, I really do.

I'm not going to bother answering to anymore of your posts personally, I just hope Playmore hit you with a big fat law suit, I'll use all my contacts to help them achieve that.

Why don't you start thinking of something else to freak? Like this dumb magic game everybody keeps going on about...

Orpheus
07-31-2002, 11:01 AM
[quote]Originally posted by chrisr:
<strong>I dont read these worthless threads, but someone pointed me to this one in regard to some loser claiming to hear that Playmore is planning legal action against NGF.

This is 100% garbage. Yes, Playmore contacted NGF, as we said they did, we responded. I could tell you who we talked to, and what was said, but it would be worthless, as all you would hear is "Yea Right". Dion and I used to constantly laugh to ourselves when we were in Japan, saying "no one will ever believe we just had dinner with the president of SNK" or "Who will ever believe we are here cleaning out actual store-rooms and stock piles". The fact is people have probably heard about 30% of what we have done, and seen about 25% of what we actually have in terms of Neo Geo collectables/goods. We could show something new, never before seen by you wanna-be collectors, every day for probably the next 3 years, but why waste the time for crybabies.

Suffice it to say Playmore and NGF have no problems.

Thanks,

ChrisR</strong><hr></blockquote>


after reading the above, I must say that that might be the case with any legal issues.
but Chris, we get along for the most part, but I must say that the insulting posts you make are not in your favoor and make you look very childish. All you are doing by posting like this is making NGF look more like a fan site done out in a garage. rise above that crap and get past the bickering. you have always been fair with me and now I am being fair with you.

[ July 31, 2002: Message edited by: ORPHEUS ]</p>

Tarma
07-31-2002, 11:06 AM
[quote]Originally posted by ORPHEUS:
<strong>


after reading the above, I must say that that might be the case with any legal issues.
but Chris, we get along for the most part, but I must say that the insulting posts you make are not in your favoor and make you look very childish. All you are doing by posting like this is making NGF look more like a fan site done out in a garage. rise above that crap and get past the bickering. you have always been fair with me and now I am being fair with you.

[ July 31, 2002: Message edited by: ORPHEUS ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

I must have hit a nerve Mitch. Guess the truth hurts.

Of course my original post could be total bs... as I oftern sit at my computer thinkung...'hmm. How can I make myself look stupid today? I know...'

Get a law dictionary and look up copyright infingement. I think you'll see a description of NGF there...

Orpheus
07-31-2002, 11:14 AM
[quote]Originally posted by Tarma:
<strong>

I must have hit a nerve Mitch. Guess the truth hurts.

Of course my original post could be total bs... as I oftern sit at my computer thinkung...'hmm. How can I make myself look stupid today? I know...'

Get a law dictionary and look up copyright infingement. I think you'll see a description of NGF there...</strong><hr></blockquote>


Sorry tarma, but you seem to have things mixed up. I was not replying to you, I was repling to chris.

chrisr
07-31-2002, 11:18 AM
Why is my post insulting? Because NGF cleaned out SNK for the good of the neo geo and people around here dont like it? Do you not understand NOBODY on the planet earth could have done what NGF did for the Neo Geo, saving a lifetime of things SNK was going to toss or piece off around the world? We flew halfway around the world to do this, what has anyone else done of this magnitude? It really burns people up, but these are the same shortsighted idiots that will never understand.

I offer the truth and some loser wants to claim otherwise, for that he is labled an idiot. Deal with it.

WHY WOULD PLAYMORE DISCUSS LEGAL MATTERS WITH A FAN?

NOW THIS GUY CLAIMS HIMSELF TO BE A LAWYER?

Mitch, you are not stupid, get back to reality and think.

There are so many people talking out if their ass here its not even funny. I look forward to meeting the real fans at the CGE. We had nothing but big smiles and happy people at our booth last year, and I am looking forward to more of the same this year.

Thanks,

ChrisR

[quote]Originally posted by ORPHEUS:
<strong>


after reading the above, I must say that that might be the case with any legal issues.
but Chris, we get along for the most part, but I must say that the insulting posts you make are not in your favoor and make you look very childish. All you are doing by posting like this is making NGF look more like a fan site done out in a garage. rise above that crap and get past the bickering. you have always been fair with me and now I am being fair with you.

[ July 31, 2002: Message edited by: ORPHEUS ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

JHendrix
07-31-2002, 11:22 AM
[quote]Originally posted by chrisr:
<strong>Why is my post insulting? Because NGF cleaned out SNK for the good of the neo geo and people around here dont like it? Do you not understand NOBODY on the planet earth could have done what NGF did for the Neo Geo, saving a lifetime of things SNK was going to toss or piece off around the world? We flew halfway around the world to do this, what has anyone else done of this magnitude? It really burns people up, but these are the same shortsighted idiots that will never understand.

I offer the truth and some loser wants to claim otherwise, for that he is labled an idiot. Deal with it.

WHY WOULD PLAYMORE DISCUSS LEGAL MATTERS WITH A FAN?

NOW THIS GUY CLAIMS HIMSELF TO BE A LAWYER?

Mitch, you are not stupid, get back to reality and think.

There are so many people talking out if their ass here its not even funny. I look forward to meeting the real fans at the CGE. We had nothing but big smiles and happy people at our booth last year, and I am looking forward to more of the same this year.

Thanks,

ChrisR

</strong><hr></blockquote>

I'm pretty sure that they don't like the fact that you got all the Neo goodies and probably will charge a good amount of cash for them. When if it had gone the other way around these things could be had for cheap.

Plus a whole lot of people would have liked to get some of the left over AES cart stock because they don't like or want "corrected" and/or stamped inserts.

But after all the drama and stuff, I really don't care. If I were in your position I'd have done the same thing (with getting the left over's of SNK, not the cart stuff), so more power to you, you guys got a great deal.

I'm just glad I'm a MVS gamer, it makes life that much simpler.

Peace

JHendrix

Evil Wasabi
07-31-2002, 11:23 AM
oh god, the last thing we need is ngf freaking magic cards <img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" />

i would have rather had SNK throw away all of this 'lost stock' you claim to have gotten rather than have you fucks get it and put stickers and stamps all over it <img src="graemlins/makeface.gif" border="0" alt="[Make Face]" />

Orpheus
07-31-2002, 11:30 AM
[quote]Originally posted by chrisr:
<strong>Why is my post insulting? Because NGF cleaned out SNK for the good of the neo geo and people around here dont like it? Do you not understand NOBODY on the planet earth could have done what NGF did for the Neo Geo, saving a lifetime of things SNK was going to toss or piece off around the world? We flew halfway around the world to do this, what has anyone else done of this magnitude? It really burns people up, but these are the same shortsighted idiots that will never understand.

I offer the truth and some loser wants to claim otherwise, for that he is labled an idiot. Deal with it.

WHY WOULD PLAYMORE DISCUSS LEGAL MATTERS WITH A FAN?

NOW THIS GUY CLAIMS HIMSELF TO BE A LAWYER?

Mitch, you are not stupid, get back to reality and think.

There are so many people talking out if their ass here its not even funny. I look forward to meeting the real fans at the CGE. We had nothing but big smiles and happy people at our booth last year, and I am looking forward to more of the same this year.

Thanks,

ChrisR

</strong><hr></blockquote>


Man, there you go, running your mouth off again.
who the hell do you think you are talking to. I know I am "in reality".
my post meant just what it said: your acting like one of the many kids on this forum, and killing any type of business credibillity you have.
I did not inquire about what you just posted above. anyone with the cash could have done what you did. thats not meant to be an insult but it's the truth.
why would A person want to send thier hard earned cash to 2 guys who argue with kids on A message board about trivial crap (calling people "wannabe collectors", give me A break)
how hard is it to just post the facts (your stance that there are no legal issue) and leave it at that. i thought NGF prided them selves on NOT taking part in the flames and other crap that springs up on the net. the obove proves other wise. you just called a bunch of people names and have sunk to thier level. way to go for you.

[ July 31, 2002: Message edited by: ORPHEUS ]</p>

chrisr
07-31-2002, 11:45 AM
Mitch, you are far removed from reality if you think:

The people that participate in these threads or this board buy ANYTHING. These are people that like to run their mouth and define their lives through NGF and a neo geo message board.

Anyone with an ounce of intelligence would believe that some nobody (to playmore), would be privy to what the Playmore LEGAL DEPT was going to do?

I am taking part in a flame way. I am just stating the facts, my presentation is in-line with the manner in which I was addressed.

That "Anyone with money" could have done what NGF did. Did you take a stupid pill this morning? SNK CALLED US ORIGINALLY. WE BOUGHT OLD STOCK. WE WERE SMART ENOUGH TO ASK FOR OTHER GOODS. WE HAD TO GO DIRECTLY TO JAPAN TO GET THEM. WE WENT THROUGH MORE GRIEF TRYING TO SECURE THESE ITEMS THAN YOU COULD EVER KNOW. MOST OF THESE ITEMS WERE DESTINED FOR THE DUMPSTER(printing plates, paper goods).

Do you really think just "anyone" could have done that? The fact is ANYONE that had the means or contacts to DIDNT GET IT DONE. We were not fighting it out for this stuff, NOBODY ELSE EVER ASKED FOR IT. We have been to Japan close to 10 times for NOTHING BUT SNK BUSINESS.

I normally give you much more credit for reasonable thinking, but you need to think again on your reasoning on this one.

ChrisR

[quote]Originally posted by ORPHEUS:
<strong>


Man, there you go, running your mouth off again.
who the hell do you think you are talking to. I know I am "in reality".
my post meant just what it said: your acting like one of the many kids on this forum, and killing any type of business credibillity you have.
I did not inquire about what you just posted above. anyone with the cash could have done what you did. thats not meant to be an insult but it's the truth.
why would A person want to send thier hard earned cash to 2 guys who argue with kids on A message board about trivial crap (calling people "wannabe collectors", give me A break)
how hard is it to just post the facts (your stance that there are no legal issue) and leave it at that. i thought NGF prided them selves on NOT taking part in the flames and other crap that springs up on the net. the obove proves other wise. you just called a bunch of people names and have sunk to thier level. way to go for you.

[ July 31, 2002: Message edited by: ORPHEUS ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

Caris Nautilus
07-31-2002, 11:53 AM
[quote]Originally posted by chrisr:
<strong>It really burns people up, but these are the same shortsighted idiots that will never understand.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I'm pretty sure it's the fact that you two jokers ruin everything you get you're hands on. Stamps, Stickers, throwing out original inserts to put in you're joke NGF Official ones.

I'm sure 99% of people here would rather have had that stuff end up in a dumpster, than you two clowns getting you're hands on it, it's ruined either way.

BTW you're post was such a joke, of course anyone with money could have done just what you did, you think SNK Japan really cared about 2 jokers from America, who don't even own a "real" company? You guys had money, and could fly there, they needed to dump shit, they sold it to you.

Anyone else who had money, spoke enough Japanese, and knew how to contact them, could have flown there for a meeting and bought the same shit you two did. When companies are going down, they aren't picky about who can buy the shit their "throwing away".

[ July 31, 2002: Message edited by: Drift King EX ]</p>

Orpheus
07-31-2002, 11:57 AM
[quote]Originally posted by chrisr:
<strong>Mitch, you are far removed from reality if you think:

The people that participate in these threads or this board buy ANYTHING. These are people that like to run their mouth and define their lives through NGF and a neo geo message board.

Anyone with an ounce of intelligence would believe that some nobody (to playmore), would be privy to what the Playmore LEGAL DEPT was going to do?

I am taking part in a flame way. I am just stating the facts, my presentation is in-line with the manner in which I was addressed.

That "Anyone with money" could have done what NGF did. Did you take a stupid pill this morning? SNK CALLED US ORIGINALLY. WE BOUGHT OLD STOCK. WE WERE SMART ENOUGH TO ASK FOR OTHER GOODS. WE HAD TO GO DIRECTLY TO JAPAN TO GET THEM. WE WENT THROUGH MORE GRIEF TRYING TO SECURE THESE ITEMS THAN YOU COULD EVER KNOW. MOST OF THESE ITEMS WERE DESTINED FOR THE DUMPSTER(printing plates, paper goods).

Do you really think just "anyone" could have done that? The fact is ANYONE that had the means or contacts to DIDNT GET IT DONE. We were not fighting it out for this stuff, NOBODY ELSE EVER ASKED FOR IT. We have been to Japan close to 10 times for NOTHING BUT SNK BUSINESS.

I normally give you much more credit for reasonable thinking, but you need to think again on your reasoning on this one.

ChrisR

</strong><hr></blockquote>


well, it's good to know you are right hear, removed from reality along with me.

you seem to take A different stance whenever it is convienient for you, don't you. first you tell me many of the people on this forum who appear to be "against NGF" buy from you in secrecy, now you claim they do otherwise just to help you prove your failed argument here.
I am not addressing THESE PEOPLE, I am addressing YOU. what you basicaly said above is that you have given in to the kiddies that egg you on. they call you some names, so you call them some back. not the most proffesional way of handling things at all. if i emailed playmore spouting shit like tyhe people on here i wouldnt get the head of that company lowering himself to the same level. you seem to take pleasure in doing that though based on what you said above.

my point is, when people from this forum(or those just hear for A quik read) decide to buy some thing from you, kiddy shit like the posts you diplayed here are not going to help. when a person makes A purchase with some one your bragging about clearing out A defunct business is not the biggest thing on thier mind. the main thing on thier mind is if the person they gave thier money to is A reliable and PROFFESIONAL person who will do whats in the interest of the customer.

Makismo
07-31-2002, 11:59 AM
This is a very strange thread. I don't see why Playmore would tell Tarma something like this. Many people write off NGF because they won't show us their personal business transaction reports from SNK and Playmore. Tarma won't show us his email because it has some personal information. In reality, it is none of our damn business. Their are too many busy bodies on this board that have nothing better to do than to bitch and moan. I don't see anyone here putting up their personal information on their lives here. Only a fool would share everything about themselves. It is best to keep your nose clean and mind your own business.

Caris Nautilus
07-31-2002, 12:05 PM
I find it funny, Chris claims Playmore is run by the "same idiots" that ran SNK (gee do you call you're bussiness friends idiots?).

Yet if NGF was so tight with the old SNK, and bought all this shit off them, how come Playmore didn't know who you jokers were when they contacted you about selling bootlegged games?

Could it be you're full of shit, and only knew "Hiro" the SNK truck driver? I think so.

FeelGood
07-31-2002, 12:08 PM
[quote]Originally posted by chrisr:
<strong>
That "Anyone with money" could have done what NGF did. Did you take a stupid pill this morning? SNK CALLED US ORIGINALLY. WE BOUGHT OLD STOCK. WE WERE SMART ENOUGH TO ASK FOR OTHER GOODS. WE HAD TO GO DIRECTLY TO JAPAN TO GET THEM. WE WENT THROUGH MORE GRIEF TRYING TO SECURE THESE ITEMS THAN YOU COULD EVER KNOW. MOST OF THESE ITEMS WERE DESTINED FOR THE DUMPSTER(printing plates, paper goods).
</strong><hr></blockquote>

According to Dion's posts on DHP, where you two numbnuts can't stop spamming, and engaging in flamewars, Dion stated himself that Playmore contacted them about their public advertisement to release the proto cartridges for Last Oddysee and Neo Pool Master for $499 each. Not about you vandalizing what now-worthless crap you have and ripping people off.

And as for these two No Good Fools not posting like made over here at n-g.com, it's because this place is moderated, and if these two No Good Fools get out of control, the mods will deal with them. At DHP there is no moderation, because Sean Goller doesn't give a damn (though he has often stated how poorly he thinks of the two No Good Fools.

Orpheus
07-31-2002, 12:18 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Makismo:
<strong>This is a very strange thread. I don't see why Playmore would tell Tarma something like this. Many people write off NGF because they won't show us their personal business transaction reports from SNK and Playmore. Tarma won't show us his email because it has some personal information. In reality, it is none of our damn business. Their are too many busy bodies on this board that have nothing better to do than to bitch and moan. I don't see anyone here putting up their personal information on their lives here. Only a fool would share everything about themselves. It is best to keep your nose clean and mind your own business.</strong><hr></blockquote>


posting documentation wouldn't do shit. they posted documentation for zupapa and everone told them to fuck off anyway. now the same people are asking for mare documentation.
<img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" />

chimpmeister
07-31-2002, 12:30 PM
[quote]Originally posted by ORPHEUS:
<strong>


posting documentation wouldn't do shit. they posted documentation for zupapa and everone told them to fuck off anyway. now the same people are asking for mare documentation.
<img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

HAHAHA, they didn't post SHIT for Zupapa. Some lame artwork, and no "documents" that could be SEEN or READ at all. Bullshit, they cobbled the Zupapa carts together by hand, made their own crappy insert and complete JOKE manual (which has like one page of gameplay info, and 3 pages of shit about how great NGF is). They probably sold a total of about 10 Zupapa carts, if that, but lied on their site that they sold out of their "500 cart run". I heard from one person who saw the cart, who characterized it as "fake homemade crap". Nothing official about that one . . . <img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" />

VanillaThunder
07-31-2002, 12:34 PM
[quote]Originally posted by chrisr:
<strong>That "Anyone with money" could have done what NGF did. Did you take a stupid pill this morning? SNK CALLED US ORIGINALLY. WE BOUGHT OLD STOCK. WE WERE SMART ENOUGH TO ASK FOR OTHER GOODS. WE HAD TO GO DIRECTLY TO JAPAN TO GET THEM. WE WENT THROUGH MORE GRIEF TRYING TO SECURE THESE ITEMS THAN YOU COULD EVER KNOW. MOST OF THESE ITEMS WERE DESTINED FOR THE DUMPSTER(printing plates, paper goods).
</strong><hr></blockquote>

well, the reason they did is because they were probably liquidating, needed any money for their creditors and most of it probably WAS junk.

To the Japanese, you were probably just two ignorant Gaijin that they figured would pay anything for some useless stuff they were going to thow out anyway. you did SNK a favor by saving them the hauling costs.

It's a two-edged sword. Japanese dislike and look down on any Gaijin and the same thing that makes me laugh at you guys for basically buying most of that crap out of the warehouse because you were perceived as ignorant foreign rubes is the same thing that puts my faith in the email mentioned above in doubt. I really hope it is and I don't take anything away from the person who said they spoke to playmore as most people on this board have more credibility than you. I will lean toward their side till I see something from you to refute it. You call it ignorance and hate, I call it you have repeatedly hedged on producing what we'd like to see.

chris, I'm saying this in the most mature manner possible, but you may be the most immature 'professional' I have ever come across. "I was gonna show everyone something but since you're mean I'm not gonna." that's how you're coming off. If you wanna have the "I'll take my ball and go home" attitude about this, be a man, not a hypocrite and just leave this board forever. If not, take it like a man and keep the dissatisfaction about you and your business in stride, realize your mistakes and correct them.

Isn't the customer ALWAYS right? Well, I'm sure if you stopped most of your practices, you'd have more customers... listen to your target audience.

Tora Kouhi
07-31-2002, 12:46 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Tarma:
<strong>
Playmore are taking legal action against a certain outfit based in Las Vegas that stamp inserts, ruin inserts, and can't deliver what they promise. Future Episodes of Judge Judy should be most interesting...

</strong><hr></blockquote>

Sorry for being too lazy to read page 2 and 3 but I'm not sure if this was mentioned but where were Dion and his NGF Crew based again? They came to my mind when I read that paragraph right there.

Caris Nautilus
07-31-2002, 12:48 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Tora Kouhi:
<strong>

Sorry for being too lazy to read page 2 and 3 but I'm not sure if this was mentioned but where were Dion and his NGF Crew based again? They came to my mind when I read that paragraph right there.</strong><hr></blockquote>

You are a hairy man.

Daisuke Jigen
07-31-2002, 12:54 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Tora Kouhi:
<strong>

Sorry for being too lazy to read page 2 and 3 but I'm not sure if this was mentioned but where were Dion and his NGF Crew based again? They came to my mind when I read that paragraph right there.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Do yourself a favor sir, and read the entire thread. It does a body good.

Tora Kouhi
07-31-2002, 01:07 PM
I just asked a simple question? I'm already pissed off at what happened to one of my cars this morning. So don't fuck with me.

chimpmeister
07-31-2002, 01:25 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Tora Kouhi:
<strong>I just asked a simple question? I'm already pissed off at what happened to one of my cars this morning. So don't fuck with me.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Dion lives in Vegas, Chris is in CO I think.

VanillaThunder
07-31-2002, 01:36 PM
[quote]Originally posted by chimpmeister:
<strong>

Dion lives in Vegas, Chris is in CO I think.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Actually, i think they both live in fantasy land.

Tarma
07-31-2002, 02:09 PM
[quote]Originally posted by VanillaThunder:
<strong>

Actually, i think they both live in fantasy land.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Ain't that the fucking truth.

If it really means anything I can forward the original email to someone...

m_bish0p
07-31-2002, 02:11 PM
so, Tarma said that they sent him an E-mail detailing some legal action.

In all reality I can believe this is the case. If playmore kept getting 100 E-mails/phonecalls per day about NGF and never even looked into it, I'd be more surprised if they DIDN'T start to take it seriously. NGF is giving neo a bad name, Playmore spent a lot of money to get that name, and I'm sure they don't appreciate someone smearing it.

As for the whole documentation argument, someone said they posted legal documents showing they had rights to distribute Zupappa. I'd love to see these.

When you are given rights to redistribute something, there is usually a contract that states the rules that they must abide by. This usually includes what they can and cannot change. For instance, they can't say 'NGF's Zupappa' I'm sure. What I was looking for was this contract.

When I asked Chris about something similar to this, he said that he had a reciept for the game and that if SNK didn't mean to give them those games, too bad.

well, yes and no. I think it would be cool to have a proto of my favorite game and I'd feel fairly lucky to have one of these carts. I wouldn't just assume, however, that gave me the right to copy and redistribute it.

so, I think NGF got in over thier head here. Playmore is tired of hearing people complain about it and is finally looking into the issue. NGF has even admitted that much.

I suspect that NGF wants to play this off as a misunderstanding, where Playmore is probably taking it a little more seriously, but as NGF is no serious threat they probably aren't gathering an undead army of lawyers either.

as usual, I'm sure the truth is just in the middle somewhere. I'd love to see Playmore force the truth out though, because Chris has never given me any reason to trust him, and now I'm curious.

oh well, we'll see :-) I'm so Glad I'm MVS only!!

Daisuke Jigen
07-31-2002, 02:13 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Tora Kouhi:
<strong>I just asked a simple question? I'm already pissed off at what happened to one of my cars this morning. So don't fuck with me.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Or what, you'll "hire" some kid from some "Violet House" to come and post about me? Yeah, that worked last time. Your tards fucked that up good.

But that's your Businass, your businass, I'll stay the fuck up out your businass.

What a fucking tard. Didn't you marry Corky in the final season?

Caris Nautilus
07-31-2002, 02:41 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Tora Kouhi:
<strong>I just asked a simple question? I'm already pissed off at what happened to one of my cars this morning. So don't fuck with me.</strong><hr></blockquote>

hahaha, one of you're cars? you mean you dropped one of you're matchbox cars in the toilet shaving you're ass again?

Tarma
07-31-2002, 02:41 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Daisuke Jigen:
<strong>

Or what, you'll "hire" some kid from some "Violet House" to come and post about me? Yeah, that worked last time. Your tards fucked that up good.

But that's your Businass, your businass, I'll stay the fuck up out your businass.

What a fucking tard. Didn't you marry Corky in the final season?</strong><hr></blockquote>

lol That's funny. <img src="graemlins/tickled.gif" border="0" alt="[Tickled]" />

TheBigBB
07-31-2002, 02:49 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Tora Kouhi:
<strong>I just asked a simple question? I'm already pissed off at what happened to one of my cars this morning. So don't fuck with me.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Now I know why people bash you. Next time I see a topic making fun of you in the war room, I better not see some sob story about how you were just minding your own business and leaving everyone alone.

dosdemon
07-31-2002, 02:55 PM
[quote]sorry. it didnt come out right.

i meant that wont try, or even look at it, aqnd just write it off right away.

friends?
<hr></blockquote>

fair enough =P

Daisuke Jigen
07-31-2002, 02:56 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Drift King EX:
<strong>

hahaha, one of you're cars? you mean you dropped one of you're matchbox cars in the toilet shaving you're ass again?</strong><hr></blockquote>

It was her broken-down volkswagon.

lol. :rolleyes:

VanillaThunder
07-31-2002, 02:57 PM
[quote]Originally posted by chrisr:
<strong>

WHY WOULD PLAYMORE DISCUSS LEGAL MATTERS WITH A FAN?

NOW THIS GUY CLAIMS HIMSELF TO BE A LAWYER?

Mitch, you are not stupid, get back to reality and think.

There are so many people talking out if their ass here its not even funny. I look forward to meeting the real fans at the CGE. We had nothing but big smiles and happy people at our booth last year, and I am looking forward to more of the same this year.

Thanks,

ChrisR

</strong><hr></blockquote>


I have a copy of Tarma's email in hand.

It's written in 'proper engrish' (hehehe) unlike some other emails we've gotten thought were fake from playmore.

I'm going to examine the headers between some other Playmore emails I've gotten a hold of and I will get back to the forum when I'm done. (I do have a job by day)

I won't release it here, as I told Tarma I wouldn't, but at first glance, it looks totally legit and pretty much the same thing he posted here.

Tarma
07-31-2002, 03:20 PM
I STRONGLY ADVISE ANYONE WHO HAS ANY SUBSTANTIVE INFORMATION CONCERNING NGF PLAGARISM AND PIRATING OPERATIONS TO FORWARD YOU INFORMATION TO PLAYMORE. ALTERNATIVELY CONTACT INTERPOL AS THEY'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO HELP OUT AND PROSECUTE IN THE AREA OF INTERNATIONAL COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT

So you thought it would be fun to insult me. Well it's my turn now wise ass. You don't know who I am or what I know.

No 'fan' destroys, corrupts or defaces original work. Especially when its in the scarce supply that AES carts are in.

NGF is not the saviour of Neo Geo it is the anti-christ.

Why isn't NGF releasing new US or Jap AES releases? Because Playmore and those affiliated with Playmore refuse to supply them. I defy NGF to prove me wrong by releasing an official US edition of the next AES release after RoTD. Zupapa is a load of bollocks as well because Playmore don't recognise the cart as anything other than an MVS release. If NGF had a licence Playmore would acknowledge NGF as third party producer.

Playmore want to make a stand against pirates like NGF. It's now up to you to show your support for the Neo Geo and contact Playmore.

It makes me sick what these two trolls have done, what they get up to, and what they get away with.

They can't even pirate properly. I've seen monkeys handle soldering irons more proficiently than tweedle dum and tweddle dee.

The time for flaming is over. You want rid of these guys now's your chance. Take it. You may not get another one.

Oh... BTW, Chris -YOU'RE RIGHT. PLAYMORE WON'T DISCUSS LEGAL ISSUES OVER THEIR INFO EMAIL. JUST LIKE THEY WOULDN'T CONTACT YOUR FAGGOT PARTNER ON THE SAME DAMN EMAIL ADDRESS TO DISCUSS LEGAL ISSUES.

You fucking moron. Did you think I wouldn't pick that up? I've got internal Playmore email addresses, and although they're a bit disorganised they wouldn't send out something like that through the public email server. And they ceratinly wouldn't phone Dion to 'sort things out'. It would be done through lawyers through paperwork. Not on the phone.

I hope you both rot in jail.

chrisr
07-31-2002, 04:03 PM
The anatomy of an NGF post on neo-geo.com

Let me first insult you:

You are the lamest "alias" to pop up in some time. I would say all you know about the legal world you probably learned in the movie "My Cousin Vinny".

Next let me laugh at you:

internal emails? lol!

Now let me tell you what you need:

<img src="graemlins/help.gif" border="0" alt="[Help]" />

And lastly, let me feed your anger for the next post:

NGF lives and prospers with the Neo Geo because we have the business sense to not get suckered into buying things that will never sell. Playmore found a sucker ripe for the pickings, another dumb American, and has made the most of it, although it looks like the gravy train is coming to an end.

In the house of Neo Geo, NGF is king. Like it or lump it.

insert curteous reply:

Thanks,

ChrisR

PS: Why would Playmore be concerned with NGF? When there are people/companys like ray young, cosmic amusements, and this very site selling non-licensed/bootlegged items?

[quote]Originally posted by Tarma:
<strong>I STRONGLY ADVISE ANYONE WHO HAS ANY SUBSTANTIVE INFORMATION CONCERNING NGF PLAGARISM AND PIRATING OPERATIONS TO FORWARD YOU INFORMATION TO PLAYMORE. ALTERNATIVELY CONTACT INTERPOL AS THEY'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO HELP OUT AND PROSECUTE IN THE AREA OF INTERNATIONAL COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT

So you thought it would be fun to insult me. Well it's my turn now wise ass. You don't know who I am or what I know.

No 'fan' destroys, corrupts or defaces original work. Especially when its in the scarce supply that AES carts are in.

NGF is not the saviour of Neo Geo it is the anti-christ.

Why isn't NGF releasing new US or Jap AES releases? Because Playmore and those affiliated with Playmore refuse to supply them. I defy NGF to prove me wrong by releasing an official US edition of the next AES release after RoTD. Zupapa is a load of bollocks as well because Playmore don't recognise the cart as anything other than an MVS release. If NGF had a licence Playmore would acknowledge NGF as third party producer.

Playmore want to make a stand against pirates like NGF. It's now up to you to show your support for the Neo Geo and contact Playmore.

It makes me sick what these two trolls have done, what they get up to, and what they get away with.

They can't even pirate properly. I've seen monkeys handle soldering irons more proficiently than tweedle dum and tweddle dee.

The time for flaming is over. You want rid of these guys now's your chance. Take it. You may not get another one.

Oh... BTW, Chris -YOU'RE RIGHT. PLAYMORE WON'T DISCUSS LEGAL ISSUES OVER THEIR INFO EMAIL. JUST LIKE THEY WOULDN'T CONTACT YOUR FAGGOT PARTNER ON THE SAME DAMN EMAIL ADDRESS TO DISCUSS LEGAL ISSUES.

You fucking moron. Did you think I wouldn't pick that up? I've got internal Playmore email addresses, and although they're a bit disorganised they wouldn't send out something like that through the public email server. And they ceratinly wouldn't phone Dion to 'sort things out'. It would be done through lawyers through paperwork. Not on the phone.

I hope you both rot in jail.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Daisuke Jigen
07-31-2002, 04:06 PM
[quote]Originally posted by chrisr:
<strong>PS: Why would Playmore be concerned with NGF? When there are people/companys like ray young, cosmic amusements, and this very site selling non-licensed/bootlegged items?

</strong><hr></blockquote>

Because you do the same, but tell people that your fake stuff is "authorized"?

Wanna hear a funny joke?

Ok, here it is.

"Zupapa"

BeefJerky
07-31-2002, 04:10 PM
[quote]Originally posted by chrisr:
<strong>I would say all you know about the legal world you probably learned in the movie "My Cousin Vinny".</strong><hr></blockquote>

I love that movie. <img src="graemlins/tickled.gif" border="0" alt="[Tickled]" />

chimpmeister
07-31-2002, 04:20 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Daisuke Jigen:
<strong>

Because you do the same, but tell people that your fake stuff is "authorized"?

Wanna hear a funny joke?

Ok, here it is.

"Zupapa"</strong><hr></blockquote>

LOL. Zupapa = "fake homemade crap", a perfect description . . . <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" />

Atro
07-31-2002, 04:30 PM
[quote]Originally posted by chrisr:
<strong>The anatomy of an NGF post on neo-geo.com

Let me first insult you:

You are the lamest "alias" to pop up in some time. I would say all you know about the legal world you probably learned in the movie "My Cousin Vinny".

Next let me laugh at you:

internal emails? lol!

Now let me tell you what you need:

<img src="graemlins/help.gif" border="0" alt="[Help]" />

And lastly, let me feed your anger for the next post:

NGF lives and prospers with the Neo Geo because we have the business sense to not get suckered into buying things that will never sell. Playmore found a sucker ripe for the pickings, another dumb American, and has made the most of it, although it looks like the gravy train is coming to an end.

In the house of Neo Geo, NGF is king. Like it or lump it.

insert curteous reply:

Thanks,

ChrisR

PS: Why would Playmore be concerned with NGF? When there are people/companys like ray young, cosmic amusements, and this very site selling non-licensed/bootlegged items?

</strong><hr></blockquote>


A few words for you and your gayfriend Dion : Fuck yourselves and do not expand your NGFUSA AIDS
elsewhere than in your stupid NGFUSA offices.

And for the "another dumb american" (Shawn I guess), you should have more respect for people that you scammed a lot. Fucker. :mad:

NGFUSA kings of Neo Geo ? Yeah get the fuck out of here, you're the kings of bootlegs and scamming. You are a dirtbag in the Neo Geo world.

Fucker.

I want to see you get out of this one. Playmore won't be playing like kids in the courts.
Assume yourself as an "another dumb american", coz you are one of these, not Shawn.

And the Neo-Geo world is here. What games have you released ? HOH!! It must be have been Metal Slug 3, Sengoku 3, The King of Fighters 2001 and Metal Slug 4. Oh my God!! :eek: I heard that NGFUSA is releasing Rage of the Dragons!!! OH!!! they are helping Playmore to produce SNK Vs Capcom and KOF2002!!! WOWO!!! only on your fucking dreams.

Get lost bastard.

You can writte this in your unwashed brains :

If Playmore loses on the court, I recomand you to learn fireman tricks cose someday your house will burn. The evil spirits of NGFUSA have to die from the roots.

Never forget this. :o :mad: <img src="graemlins/veryangry.gif" border="0" alt="[Very Angry]" /> <img src="graemlins/blowtop.gif" border="0" alt="[Blow Top]" />

Tora Kouhi
07-31-2002, 04:33 PM
[quote]Originally posted by dmhawkmoon:
<strong>

Now I know why people bash you. Next time I see a topic making fun of you in the war room, I better not see some sob story about how you were just minding your own business and leaving everyone alone.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Why you siding with the bashers for. I asked a question out of curiosity because I'm not in a mood to read the topic since I don't like reading topics above 2 pages unless I made a post in it in the early and I get insulted, I respond to that insult and you up here saying to understand why I get bashed. I wasn't doing anything wrong by responding to that insult thank you.

Tarma
07-31-2002, 04:55 PM
[quote]Originally posted by chrisr:
<strong>The anatomy of an NGF post on neo-geo.com

Let me first insult you:

You are the lamest "alias" to pop up in some time. I would say all you know about the legal world you probably learned in the movie "My Cousin Vinny".

Next let me laugh at you:

internal emails? lol!

Now let me tell you what you need:

<img src="graemlins/help.gif" border="0" alt="[Help]" />

And lastly, let me feed your anger for the next post:

NGF lives and prospers with the Neo Geo because we have the business sense to not get suckered into buying things that will never sell. Playmore found a sucker ripe for the pickings, another dumb American, and has made the most of it, although it looks like the gravy train is coming to an end.

In the house of Neo Geo, NGF is king. Like it or lump it.

insert curteous reply:

Thanks,

ChrisR

PS: Why would Playmore be concerned with NGF? When there are people/companys like ray young, cosmic amusements, and this very site selling non-licensed/bootlegged items?

</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yes, I quite agree. I would need help. If I believed anything you said.

I never mentioned any legal terminology in any of my previous posts, but you've certainly proved you have the mens rea and actus reus of a criminal.

NGF is ceratianly acting ultra viries and has been for some time.

So you have consensus ad idem from Playmore do you? Consensus facit legem?

It is a criminal offence to make or deal with an article which is, and which a person knows or has reason to believe is an infringing copy of copyright work (CD&PA 1988).

There is no house of Neo Geo and NGF is nothing more than a sham. Most people here have completed or amassed their collections without any contribution from NGF - why would we be bothered now? 90% of the stuff on your web site you haven't manufactured yet... sorry, I mean't haven't got in stock.

Your shoddy pirates won't help anyone complete their collection.

I ask you again - why are you not releasing AES carts from Playmore?

A fellow pirate (by your reckoning) is doing so. He runs this site apparently.

Why have you no official backing or support from Playmore?

Why aren't you releasing offical Playmore carts?

Why are you black listed by all offical suppliers and distributors?

Why are you such a pathetic joke?

Why is Zupapa a shoddy bootleg convert if it's an official release?

Why do Playmore deny the existence of a Zupapa home cart?

Please insert inane stupid bullshit comedy reply here.

PS.
Why are you still pretending to be in business?

Daisuke Jigen
07-31-2002, 05:32 PM
Who says Latin is a dead language? ;)

Big Bruno
07-31-2002, 06:40 PM
[quote]Originally posted by chrisr:
<strong>The anatomy of an NGF post on neo-geo.com

And lastly, let me feed your anger for the next post:

NGF lives and prospers with the Neo Geo because we have the business sense to not get suckered into buying things that will never sell. Playmore found a sucker ripe for the pickings, another dumb American, and has made the most of it, although it looks like the gravy train is coming to an end.

In the house of Neo Geo, NGF is king. Like it or lump it.

insert curteous reply:

Thanks,

ChrisR

PS: Why would Playmore be concerned with NGF? When there are people/companys like ray young, cosmic amusements, and this very site selling non-licensed/bootlegged items?

</strong><hr></blockquote>


ah, it is always good and well to see chris Active as always posting his usal propeganda nonsense.

We supply 85% of the 850 conversion out there. of course given !arcade! has down over 300 the % just does not figure up right.

We made 500 Zupapa and they are contining to drop in value Yet we are Neo Geo and a successfull business ;) (the 500 number is wishfull thinking of course)

There is no English Metal SLug 3 we are in tight with SNK and they told us there is no release, besides we have a exclusive 3 cart sign contract with them like all our other contracts and they would not dare break it.

Come to CGE and see the proto's for yourselves. No wait you can not play them unless you buy them so I guess you can not really see them but we will show you our pretty cart cases. We are going to release 4 er 3 no 2, 2 proto's which may or may not be finshed but buy it to find out for yoursleves.

The only money you guys make is from the fools that buy into your garbage. Those that do not know better or simple have more money to care what to do with.

For the one wanting the information on the NGF Zupapa release it is here.

<a href="http://www.ngfusa.com/zupapa/zupapa.htm" target="_blank">http://www.ngfusa.com/zupapa/zupapa.htm</a>

I always thought it was Humours, them showing several dated document all written in Japanese which nether Chris nor Dion can read and thiers writting in english in response as proof.

of course the Fantasy is Zupapa selling for $355. the reality is a little different

<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1361377231" target="_blank">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1361377231</a>

I actually have been avoiding chris's latest rambelings of Granduer but sometimes it gets to be a bit much.

Atro
07-31-2002, 07:42 PM
Hmmm...

I'd like to see if Playmore releases a True Zupapa...

What else would NGFUSA do?? Sue Playmore?? <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" />

The most certain thing you could read here would be like this :

Posted by Dion or Chris of course!!!

We don't want to take legal action over Playmore because of exclusivity of Zupapa...
We're happy to see a big company "copying" games from "our" catalogue.
And yes, we are Neo Geo Freacks.

NGFUSA
Dion

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chimpmeister
07-31-2002, 08:36 PM
Great post, Big Bruno. You covered the "NGF Zupapa" situation pretty well . . . not much for the duo to say after that. <img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" />

Viewpoint
08-01-2002, 01:25 AM
[quote]Originally posted by TonK:
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Dude, you played Magic!

HAAA HAAHHAAAAHHAAAAAAAAAA!!!!</strong><hr></blockquote>

What?

Shawn played Magic too. :p

Viewpoint
08-01-2002, 01:34 AM
As far as you go Chris.
Why don't you just get Dion to quit cowering on these forums and have the man speak for himself.

He seems to have no problem shooting his mouth on the DHP so what's the big pussy scared of?

Oh wait that's right. He would end up getting flamed like he always does.

I don't care too much seeing as literally everyone knows what you two guys have done.

I bet Bill goes to bed at night with a smile on his face knowing that you two losers are now seen as pieces of shit by everyone's eyes here.

It took awhile but, in the end you guys got what you deserved.

Oh and as far as the Gamelord thing goes in chat. Mr Okada requested that you not be there in chat because he honestly has nothing to say to you two pirates and I don't fault him one bit.

Even EX-REAL SNK USA employees think you & Dion are shit. Be it Chad or Alicila Barone, you guys were pretty much ignored and rightly so.

Go to hell chris..

Tarma
08-01-2002, 04:55 AM
[quote]Originally posted by Daisuke Jigen:
<strong>Who says Latin is a dead language? ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

Argumentum ab inconvenienti plurimum valet in lege ;)