Neo Geo on HDTVs produce major graphical flaw

Kiel · Feb 20, 2002

Well I just bought me a new HDTV and was excited to try out everybody favorite system on it and when I did on one side I was VERY impressed by how good the picture looked, BUT there is one effect that the HDTV is unable to produce, transperencies(sp).

If you dont know what I'm talking about I'll give you an example:

-Last Blade/LB2 are the worst offenders, every time you swing your sword it leaves a "trail" behind it usually yellow/blue/pink that is SOLID.
With a HDTV it looks checkered like Hanzo's fishnet shirt, AND stuff from the backgroud shows through it so it looks fucked up especially when you use Moriya's cresent moon slash, it just looks uguly.

-Life bars that are supposed to be transperent also show the checker pattern and have the crap going on behind them.

The only games that showed this problem that I tested were the LBs and the SSs

But the graphics in every game are Equal to RGB even though its going through S-video.

They (the graphics)are absolutly STUNNING, KOF is just amazing to see it the way it was ment to be, and I always thought that it was an ugly looking game until now(redies flame proof sheild)
:eek:

So if you are considering getting a HDTV keep this in mind, there are certain trade offs that you have to make.

Caris Nautilus · Feb 20, 2002

Thats because HDTV's are only designed for movies in mind (DVDs).

CRT's are still the best for videogames. HDTV's and Flatscreens are crappy.

[ February 20, 2002: Message edited by: Drift King EX ]

Tora Kouhi · Feb 20, 2002

How big is your HDTV? I know that videogames can severely damage a big screen TV.

Kiel · Feb 20, 2002

Its only a 27" one <img src="graemlins/glee.gif" border="0" alt="[Glee]" />

ForeverSublime · Feb 20, 2002

Hey Drift King EX,

what are CRT's? and how are they better?

Thanks.

Daisuke Jigen · Feb 20, 2002

Originally posted by Tora Kouhi:
How big is your HDTV? I know that videogames can severely damage a big screen TV.<hr></blockquote>

The problem with Big Srceens comes with projection models. Static images like life bars can cause burn-in.

Kiel · Feb 20, 2002

I think it stands for Cathode Ray Tube, its what a regular TV uses to display the picture instead of a projector in a projection TV. They give you a nicer picture.

Kiel · Feb 20, 2002

My TV is not a projection unit, it is standard.

Tora Kouhi · Feb 20, 2002

Originally posted by Daisuke Jigen:


The problem with Big Srceens comes with projection models. Static images like life bars can cause burn-in.<hr></blockquote>

Kinda like some arcade machines that once played other games and the screen from a previous game can be seen when the current game goes dark, ne?

Tora Kouhi · Feb 20, 2002

Originally posted by Spike:
My TV is not a projection unit, it is standard.<hr></blockquote>

Hmm well just be careful. Word of advice: If you have to pause the game for a certain time be sure to turn the TV off until you get back to avoid a risk of burn-in.

Wolf · Feb 20, 2002

Ok, this is a stupid generalization. I've used my neo on an HDTV 50" Pioneer plasma and do not have this problem. I've also played it on an HDTV compatible home theater that uses a sony projector (don't remember the model) with a Faroudja line doubler.

Both setups did not have a problem with the neo.

Tora Kouhi · Feb 20, 2002

Well I can't explain that except you must got a lucky TV to withstand the videogame dangers but do heed the pause button warning I stated earlier since you definitely got such a huge TV.

Wolf · Feb 20, 2002

Originally posted by Tora Kouhi:
Well I can't explain that except you must got a lucky TV to withstand the videogame dangers but do heed the pause button warning I stated earlier since you definitely got such a huge TV.<hr></blockquote>

I've never had a problem with burn in and I've put in a significant amount of gaming on projection TVs. That said, I usually don't play for more than 3 hours at any given time. I think that the people who suffer from burn in leave their games on pause for long periods of time.

endgamer · Feb 20, 2002

The NEO GEO composite video on my HDTV looks fine but when I use the s-video the color is faded.

Tora Kouhi · Feb 20, 2002

After seeing how Spike-san's S-video problem is that it comes out RGB style, I'm guessing that since Neo Geo is an old system that it might be somewhat color incompatible with S-video. If Neo came out around 96 then I doubt you'd have that problem.

BTW, shouldn't this be a tech support topic O_O?

Caris Nautilus · Feb 20, 2002

CRT's are what regular TV's use. With the Regular screen. Flat Screen TV's, Projection Screens, LCD/Plasma are not CRT.

Actually Flat Screens are quite horrible for gaming, someone posted about this in tech recently.

[ February 20, 2002: Message edited by: Drift King EX ]

Big Bruno · Feb 20, 2002

maybe you might want to try the New mod from !Arcade!

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It might make it appear better as well.

[ February 20, 2002: Message edited by: Big Bruno ]

endgamer · Feb 20, 2002

You don't know what your talking about Drift King. My HDTV is a flatscreen and it is a CRT. You should see the Saturn, PS2 & PSone and X-BOX on it and then tell me that flatscreens suck for gaming. Were talking 800 lines of resolution through component and s-video inputs.

Rade K · Feb 20, 2002

Am I the only one who wants to see Tora leave the forum forever? It's bad enough that he is pretending to be a chick, but all of this useless posting of his is just driving me mad!!

Orpheus · Feb 20, 2002

lets make this one simple. SPIKE, what brand is the tv and what is the model #. it could be A few things. let me see if I can help you out. in general though, an HDTV is not going to be as good with A neo as A standard analog set.

Tora Kouhi · Feb 20, 2002

Originally posted by Rade Kuruc:
Am I the only one who wants to see Tora leave the forum forever? It's bad enough that he is pretending to be a chick, but all of this useless posting of his is just driving me mad!!<hr></blockquote>

Looky here jackass. I'm not pretending to be no chick and I'm over here trying to help some people with their TV problems if you've been reading. If anyone is posting useless crap is you and your showing you got no lofe by going out of your way just to start some shit about calling me a guy. I'm not a guy, get it through your head. You are either blind or just plain stupid. I'm busy helping some people and you over here spamming with your "Tora's a guy" bullshit. And there are a lot of mods and members that agree with me. So you better watch yourself buster.

Rade K · Feb 20, 2002

Originally posted by Tora Kouhi:


you got no lofe .<hr></blockquote>

Listen, DUDE, I got a lofe!

MAN, are you annoying. The only thing you are doing in this thread is cluttering up (as am I, I guess) with your stupid words. If you don't know what you are talking about (99 percent of the time) keep your mouth shut!

[ February 20, 2002: Message edited by: Rade Kuruc ]

Tora Kouhi · Feb 20, 2002

No you keep your mouth shut. I'm trying to help these people with their Neo/TV problems and you waltzing in trying to dog me out every chance you get. I know a thing or two about TVs and I'm offering the best advice possible.

K-hunter · Feb 20, 2002

the HDTVs tend to work better when playing something like EX3 or VF4....

RevQuixo · Feb 20, 2002

Originally posted by Rade Kuruc:


Listen, DUDE, I got a lofe!

MAN, are you annoying. The only thing you are doing in this thread is cluttering up (as am I, I guess) with your stupid words. If you don't know what you are talking about (99 percent of the time) keep your mouth shut!

[ February 20, 2002: Message edited by: Rade Kuruc ]<hr></blockquote>

The funny part is that the above quote holds true for both Tora and Caris.

Tora: projection screen burn in is a thing of the past.

Caris: HDTvs are for more than just DVDs

Rade: Canada Sucks

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