Your opinion on cart conversion?

I feel its terrible, carts like samurai shodown 2 will become rare because of the conversion. We have many options available now so conversion is no excuse.I dont like the idea someone is killing a cart I am spending good money on to get IE. KOF 99, I feel its blasphemy to quote DSD.

Originally posted by Lord Wolfgang Krauser:
<STRONG>I feel its terrible, carts like samurai shodown 2 will become rare because of the conversion. We have many options available now so conversion is no excuse.I dont like the idea someone is killing a cart I am spending good money on to get IE. KOF 99, I feel its blasphemy to quote DSD.</STRONG>

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Yep. It just does not seem right for so many reasons.

It's rape in it's purist form, or something. <IMG SRC="smilies/loco.gif" border="0">

I believe it is a SKILL that has served it's purpose. Now that the converter is available and %100 compatible with ALL MVS GAMES does'nt make sense to have it done anymore.
The money it takes to do a conversion would be better spent on a converter.
On a whole...who know what's what now?? You ever attempt to pop open all your home carts?? Who knows what you have in between your plastic these days!!! At least with an MVS cart I can pop it open with ease to check for EPROMS or tampering...
-BB

Don't buy homecarts so I can't stress my opinion. Y'know maybe I can...

Home carts or AES were made for the home market.

MVS were made for the arcades.

If people like homecarts then they should pay whatever it takes to get a LEGIT NON-CONVERTED cart.

People who play MVS like myself don't have to worry about conversions.

I think destroying an out of print Neo-Geo cart is BS.

You take two carts, rip the eproms out of em and BAM you got a BS BOOTLEG cart. What happens to the sac cart? DEAD!

QUIT ruining the Neo-Geo hobby! If there wasn't an AES issued for the home system then it means it was for MVS only!

I might get back into AES but for now I'm finally getting to play the games I want for a fraction of the cost!

I Totally agree with Tonk & Krauser!
100% Piracy at its most harmful.

Metal.
"If your gonna pray, do it now!" <IMG SRC="smilies/ohno.gif" border="0">

Well you can never satisfy EVERYONE. I have people bugging me about conversions all the time, so I said what the hell, I'll do them. Games like Zedblade, Shock troopers 1, and other games that were never released on the home cart system. Also, they are very popular in Japan, they want to have EVERY single game ever made, and the only way to do this is conversions.

Just my two cents.

samurai shodown 2 will become rare
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I very seriously doubt that.
The few people that are actully
buying converted carts are not going to make
much of an impact. Those carts were made in the many thousands. I feel 10 years from now
half of those carts will still probably
be tossed back on some stores shelf, or in a warehouse.

Im not trying to justify it, thats just the way I see it. Many people who were buying these before the convertors just considered it ok as there was no other alternative.
Once youve got something in your head as ok,
it just kinda sticks I guess.

I have serveal converted carts, and I like them. Right or wrong, I dunno.
With such a small amount thats being done,
I dont see a problem.
What I think is far worse is taking complete
home carts and swapping out all their official inserts, sticker, etc with fakes.
I dont like that, because newbies cant tell
whats authentic. Plus, it can be done on a large scale. Most people buy a cheaper solution, which conversions are not.
So it stays a small niche in sales.
Everyone buys the older games, so when u see a fake magician lord, or ninja comando, thats what I think yall should be sad about.
So, whenever I have had a conversion done,
I always try and sac one of these carts thats
already been stripped. May not be right, but at least its closer to it IMO.

[ May 15, 2001: Message edited by: nick_th_fury ]

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[ May 15, 2001: Message edited by: mathieu74 ]

i kinda disagree bear...
i think it doesnt and has never had
a purpose...
this is the NEOGEO we re talking
about right now...
alot of people dont know.. but the
NEO and only a few other
systems are the highest regarded
in the collectors market..
you can even call it the rolls royce of
systems...
where else do you find people spending
on average 150 for carts ...
not to say 800+ for super rare carts..
the NEO GEO is the shit!
but regardless ...
people who get into collecting NEOGEO
games know better..
they know the games are expensive ..
they know these are collectors items..
they know that everygame has its price..
but there are people that would rather
get converted carts instead of the real
versions just because

its too much cash
its too rare

look at these two reasons..
and then look up at what i just
said about this collectors hobby..
people would rather shortcut the system..
whats even more frustrating is
people that get converted carts just cause
they have to have everything..
its not worth sac ing a NEOGEO cart..
its not worth the savings..
its just senseless really..
if its games that have never appeared on
home cart... then get an MVS..
god.. you can find a cabinet and the game
for less than a conversion would cost..
or you can get the converter from arcade
for the same price too!
...
ehhh..
thats my take...
sorry if it doesnt make to much sense..
but thats what i believe.

Well, I have to agree with Nick. First of all the games used for sac carts are the least rare, usually common games with many thousands made. Second, how big is the Neo collectors market anyway? Only about 1000 members are registered here, and there is little or no demand for new home carts. Also, relativly few people convert carts anyway, it's rather expensive. Lastly, samurai Shodown 2 is far from rare LWK, one recently sold on e-bay for $26.

Also, to respond to Metal Slug, it is not piracy. You have to buy the home cart and the MVS cart. Once you own them, you can do what you want with them.

I used to think coversion was ok if you don't have any other option besides home cart. (ie Shock Troopers 1, Dodge ball)

Now that we have MVS -> Home converter, (hopefully soon the AESII) this makes conversion a dead dino.

LWK, I don't like it either.

A cart must be practically slain to produce the home cart conversion.

With Super Guns, converters, and hopefully AES2- this practice won't be necessary anymore.

FUCK the AES2!

Just remember in the not so distant future, people will regret destroying great games to make others, no matter how rare.
Its just like the red wood, once there all gone they wont be seen again.
Neo-Geo, is and art. Destroying a cart is like destroying a van gogh, and the very thought of carts being taken apart and opened and stripped, is inhuman and immoral, they may be plastic, but by destroying a cart you are destroying a little of the neo's past,
R.I.P samurai 2, to bad people cant appreciate the simplicity that was samurai shodown 2.....

I am all for home cart conversion.

I not going to get into this subject since im doing all my conversions, and let me just tell you that my PI2, TSS, home carts with inserts look sweet with all my collection. <IMG SRC="smilies/loco.gif" border="0">

reminds me of Samurai Showdown 4 AES........

Originally posted by TonK:
<STRONG>Don't buy homecarts so I can't stress my opinion. Y'know maybe I can...

Home carts or AES were made for the home market.

MVS were made for the arcades.

If people like homecarts then they should pay whatever it takes to get a LEGIT NON-CONVERTED cart.

People who play MVS like myself don't have to worry about conversions.

I think destroying an out of print Neo-Geo cart is BS.

You take two carts, rip the eproms out of em and BAM you got a BS BOOTLEG cart. What happens to the sac cart? DEAD!

QUIT ruining the Neo-Geo hobby! If there wasn't an AES issued for the home system then it means it was for MVS only!

I might get back into AES but for now I'm finally getting to play the games I want for a fraction of the cost!</STRONG>

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I think this is the first post I've ever read by you that I agree with. I mean it too, I agree 100% with you. Conversion sucks. Now why do you like Dion so much if you feel this way about conversions?

You just gotta stop blindly bashing the AESII and let the thing get released, and the Sigma really isn't that big of a deal man...

Your avatar rules by the way.

Booga my chooga! come on, booga it! BOOGA!

Coz Dion is a "good" man <IMG SRC="smilies/loco.gif" border="0">

You don't need a Samurai Showdown 2 to do every conversion. It depends on what you want to convert. Some people love the inserts and stickers, some people hate it and think it is wrong to sacrifice a cart that there is thousands of copies of. They would rather use a converter that takes 5 minutes just to get the game to play, (from what I heard) What is the point anymore? It is very difficult to keep everyone happy nowadays.

Now why do you like Dion so much if you feel this way about conversions?
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LOL, you noticed that too did you. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
I thought that was strange, since hes pretty
much the only person that pushes em as a must.

Originally posted by Silent_Scope:
<STRONG>reminds me of Samurai Showdown 4 AES........</STRONG>

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Cart conversion is rape!
Its wrong, there is no excuse anymore, it makes certain games rare in the future you may not believe me now but wait three years or so.