Compilied Logs from Chat with Nikke Tonight. (Part 2)

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Man I swear the annoyance that comes when someone gets busted for not honoring a deal or just plain runs with the money is enough to give anyone a headache.

The general purpose of these logs Part 1 & part 2 is to bring to light some bad dealings in the Neo Scene which a lot of people are currently unaware of. It helps a lot of people in the end know who to deal with and who not to trust with your hard-earned money.

That said I'll now post Part 2 of Last Nights Logs. Please Note it's a bit of the same with a it more proof of complaints made towards the guilty party in these actions.

(Nikke)Sad I do not feel that way

(Phantom1)when can we expect payment

(NeoGeo2k2)Ray again this is between me and nik you were not part of this deal back then

(Phantom1)no it's not Victor
(Phantom1)Nikke is my partner

(Nikke)All I know Victor is that I sent you stuff for about $2000

(NeoGeo2k2)like i said i will not spend 2000 just for fun let me do some tracking and if true that the money order was not collect and all, then shit i'll pay

(Phantom1)you will send the paymnet to me

(Nikke)three months ago
(Nikke)and still nothing

(NeoGeo2k2)i have no problem with that
(NeoGeo2k2)again people now me for being an honest person, and i always pay for what i own, always

(Nikke)Victor

(Phantom1)Victor, you are full of shit you never sent anything

(NeoGeo2k2)i dont feel good abot ripping people off specially using stolen stuff, that's just not me

(Phantom1)and you know it

(Nikke)I was a naive fool when I started this business I can give you that

(NeoGeo2k2)Nikke how can you prove that?

(Nikke)What??

(NeoGeo2k2)that i never send you anything?

(Phantom1)This guy is to much

(Nikke)That you are full of shit

(NeoGeo2k2)why would i want to ripp you off?

(Nikke)Money
(Nikke)asshole!!!

(NeoGeo2k2)give me one good reason, over 2k, comeone dude i make that in a week

(Nikke)everything is about money!!
(Nikke)good for you
(Nikke)so you do charity

(Phantom1)you have been ripping a few people off Victor would you like me to start posting their mails?

(NeoGeo2k2)like i said let me do some tracking and if it's true that you never got it then i'll pay for it no sweat

(Nikke)Give me the tracking now
(Nikke)I want it
(Nikke)tracking number please

(NeoGeo2k2)i dont have a traking # i told you that before.

(Nikke)That is convienient

(Lord_Akidadus)You don't get one with airmail

(Phantom1)Victor, You are finished in this business.

(NeoGeo2k2)give me a week or 2 to find out what happend, and i'll more then happy to paypal you or write and mo if it's true that you never got it.

(Phantom1)you have had months

(Nikke)Man I gave you three months
(Nikke)I am sorry Victor
(Nikke)I am a very nice guy
(Nikke)Too nice

(NeoGeo2k2)why you dindt email me to take care of this then

(Nikke)But I did

(NeoGeo2k2)way wait,

(Nikke)Ohh I did
(Nikke)but that is not the point

(NeoGeo2k2)why wait all this time

(Nikke)You send what you promise that is business

(Lord_Akidadus)You never replied to my emails either NIkke.....

(Phantom1)hang on for a minute Victor I have something to show you

(Nikke)Ok

(NeoGeo2k2)ray i really dont have time
(NeoGeo2k2)Nikke so we have a deal.
(NeoGeo2k2)and ray

(Phantom1)"Victor Corona sucks, I bought a neo geo from him that he claimed was like new and it was the worst looking system that I had ever seen, didnt even work when I attempted to test it out."

(Phantom1)"Shit, you guessed it, D & R games....you know something I dont? I knew it was a gamble, damn"


(NeoGeo2k2)jsut give me a week or 2 that's all

(Phantom1)"Damn, I'm too trusting, and I was wondering what was up with that sloppy mod job. Is the thing salvageable?"

(Phantom1)"I purchased the system from D&R games about three months ago. It took forever to get here."

(Phantom1)"I'm kind of new to the Neo scene, so I guess I could partially be to blame for not checking out the credentials of the site I purchased the system from. The system worked fine for awhile, but I suppose it was bound to fail eventually if it's that messed up. I know nothing about the inner workings of these things, so I could never check the work."


(Lord_Akidadus)Just because you deal with Victor DOES NOT mean you deal with D&R, I wish people would get that right.

(NeoGeo2k2)and what happend i said if you dont like it i'll be more than happy to pay for it.
(NeoGeo2k2)and i did
(NeoGeo2k2)so then nikke is that cool

(Phantom1)"some body on the forum told me not to order from them..and now they are acting weird on their your site....both saying they didnt do anything wrong and nobody accused them"

(Nikke)What?

(Phantom1)"Those guys at D and R are scumbags? They were trying to sell some stuff that Im interested in and I heard from a buddy they are crooks"

(Phantom1)"Holy shit, this is the same guy (D&R) that wanted to do my MS-1 for me. but something told me not too, so I had Jeff do it instead and I was very very pleased."


(Lord_Akidadus)LOL

(NeoGeo2k2)Nikke?

(Lord_Akidadus)Is this some sort of scam Ray?

(Nikke)Yes

(Phantom1)only by you guys

*** BonusKun sets mode: +v JMKurtz

(Lord_Akidadus)Ok, lets gather eveyone here to make me look bad?

(NeoGeo2k2)are we cool on that, just let me do a little checking and if it's true i'll be more than happy to pay for what i own

(Lord_Akidadus)How come these people didn't email me?

(Nikke)You want to send the stuff
(Nikke)now

(Lord_Akidadus)Thought so....

(Nikke)you mean

(Phantom1)you do a good job all on your own Ray

(Nikke)too late
(Nikke)Send it to Ray

(NeoGeo2k)Nikke i can send the stuff, but check what happend to it and pay you the 2k

(Nikke)do not bother
(JMKurtz)NG2k -- why do I get e-mails requsting repairs from systems you have modified?

(NeoGeo2k2)send payment to ray? what?

(Nikke)Why should I have to drag all the scumbags to this chat room to get my money

(NeoGeo2k2)i dont know
(NeoGeo2k2)Nikke? what?

(Nikke)I am a tired guy

(Phantom)Victor you will send the payment to me

(Nikke)I am too soft
(Nikke)too nice

(Phantom1)too old

(NeoGeo2k2)Nikke give me 1-2 weeks and trust me you'll get your cash

(Lord_Akidadus)Nikke, if you had these problems with Victor, why didn't you ever email me?

(Nikke)Haha

(NeoGeo2k2)yeah

(Phantom1)you have 3 days

(Nikke)He said he is in this together with you

(Lord_Akidadus)No

(Phantom1)yes

(Lord_Akidadus)He does his own deals

(NeoGeo2k)nikke not in all the stuff

(Lord_Akidadus)He does my mods

(Nikke)And I have receievd mails from other customers claiming you to be scum

(NeoGeo2k2)even on the first email i told you it was just you and I

(Lord_Akidadus)Doesn't mean he "co owns D*R"

(Nikke)yes even you Ray

(JMKurtz)I've done mods for Victor, and mailed packaged BACK to Ray... Do the math.

(NeoGeo2k2)Jm that was before we did mod's

(Lord_Akidadus)Yes, because I am usually home to collect the mail

(JMKurtz)Using "we" implies togetherness.

(Phantom1)send us our damn money and get outta Dodge

(Nikke)In several mails I was told that Ray is the one doing the inserts

(NeoGeo2k2)Ray like i said, i have no prblem paying you what i own, i told you taht

(Phantom1)you guys are full of shit

(Lord_Akidadus)Yes, I am
(Lord_Akidadus)I am full of shit?

(NeoGeo2k2)Ray is that cool?

(Phantom1)you know it

(Nikke)I was waiting two months for thise inserts
(Nikke)Two months

(NeoGeo2k2)So who will me my contact person

(Phantom1)is it cool you what you are selling people Victor

(NeoGeo2k)who do i email

(Nikke)Ray why did you not finnish those up for mwe

(Lord_Akidadus)Finish what Nikke?

(Nikke)The inserts

(NeoGeo2k2)Nikke again this is between you and i

(Nikke)Did not Victor mentioned any inserts

(Lord_Akidadus)I gave the order to Andy who does them for me, but he never had time to do them.

(NeoGeo2k2)Fuck this, its a waiste of time, who do i pay? just give me 6 days

(Nikke)hahaha

(Lord_Akidadus)Plus Victor didn't know if he wan't jap or us

(Nikke)you call that business
(Nikke)hahaha

(Lord_Akidadus)Plus Victor didn't know if he wan't jap or us

(Nikke)you call that business

(Lord_Akidadus)Is this even the real nikke?

(NeoGeo2k2)Phantom is that cool

(Nikke)I told Victor that if youi can not get this together for me send back my stuff
(Nikke)I said that in a mail fro one month ago

(NeoGeo2k2)Nikke so do i send it to Ray or You?

(Phantom1)me

(Nikke)Get it out to Ray

(NeoGeo2k2)OK done. see how easy that was, all it takes is talk

(Nikke)no

(Phantom1)ok what do you gentlemen wish to know

(Nikke)Not just talking

(NeoGeo2k2)Phantom1 so it's 6 days cool?

(Phantom1)2k2 I will e-mail the address where to send the payment


Thankfully this was about it for the argument. It did span out for a bit but in the end we did move onto some more topics besides the dirty laundry.

I will make this the focus point of Part 3. Thanks you.
 

Lord Illicious

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Man what a way to find something on a Japanese Neostore site and it gets all bought out like crazy.

Hmmm

I wonder if all thoes Neo carts that Nikke sold on his site were authentic imports.
 

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Hmm too bad i was asleep by that at the end. Maybe something interesting will happen sooner or later!!!
 

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I don't know if you should bother with a final installment. Seems the whole point is made. Besides, that whole chat session is about negativity. But thanks for letting us read the logs.
 

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You know what? That chat just makes me sick. It's people like that that ruin things for the average (non-collector) Neo gamer.

I got every single Neo item I own from Nikke. It's not much, but damn it I got it for a decent price with no hassles. If you read this, Nikke, I just want to let you know that I feel for you, but you have to do what you have to do. I hope your new business tactics will succeed.
 
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(Nikke)Ray why did you not finnish those up for mwe

(Lord_Akidadus)Finish what Nikke?

(Nikke)The inserts


HMMMM,WHATS THAT MEAN????
 

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Nikke had a few conversions on his site. TSS, PI2 and a couple of others. It clearly said on his site that they were conversions.


Originally posted by DRUNKEN SHAOLIN DEVIL:
<STRONG>(Nikke)Ray why did you not finnish those up for mwe

(Lord_Akidadus)Finish what Nikke?

(Nikke)The inserts


HMMMM,WHATS THAT MEAN????</STRONG>
 

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Originally posted by DRUNKEN SHAOLIN DEVIL:
<STRONG>(Nikke)Ray why did you not finnish those up for mwe

(Lord_Akidadus)Finish what Nikke?

(Nikke)The inserts


HMMMM,WHATS THAT MEAN????</STRONG>

Man .... .... .. ...... .ulls... .. ....
..... ..ts ... ..ke

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Lord Akidadus

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Originally posted by DRUNKEN SHAOLIN DEVIL:
<STRONG>(Nikke)Ray why did you not finnish those up for mwe

(Lord_Akidadus)Finish what Nikke?

(Nikke)The inserts


HMMMM,WHATS THAT MEAN????</STRONG>

Victor came to me wanting 5 inserts. I can't remember the names. I told him it would take A LOT of time to get these done. I have Andy do all my inserts. If you want, verify it with Andy, I don't care. That is all I had to do with it. I didn't even know the deal was for Nikke. Like I said, Nikke never emailed me, contacted me or nothing. This meeting had one goal and that was to make D&R look bad. Jeff, Arcade, and surprisingly Nikke. I've done about 3 or 4 deals with Nikke by MYSELF and no problems. Victor does this deal BY HIMSELF and all these problems occur. I don't know what exactly went on because I had nothing to do with it. What is your goal Arcade, to take me out of business? Give me a break..... Like I said, I do this for FUN, not the money. I'm not some BIG HUGE business like Arcade. I'm a full time college student who happens to love the neo.

It just feels like everyone is here ganging up on me. If that is the case, I'll probably just leave this scene. I can't believe it, you try to help the neo geo scene and all you get is negativity....

I'll make this statement right NOW. Anyone here that feels they have EVER been ripped by ME ONLY, say something. I'll put my reputation up right now. If you feel you were happy with my services, then by all means help me out <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

I'm just tired of all the arrogance. I thought Shawn, !Arcade!, Jeff, and myself are all on the same team. I mean hell, I thought we all had the same goal, to help let the neo live. If your goal is to make money, well then YOUR IN THE WRONG BUSINESS. The demand is just not out there, sorry. Even though I'm a small business, I can never imagine living off of the profit I make out of D&R.

If anyone has a problem with my services, email me directly or just let me know.

I HAVE NO IDEA what happened between Nikke and Victor, and frankly I don't care anymore. As far as I know, all of my customers have been satisfied, and I hope I can be helpful to everyone on this board.

With that being said...

!Arcade! I have absolutely no respect for you. Although, you provide the neo scene with excellent prices and cool new inventions (Converter), you are very unprofessional. You've had something against me since the beginning (I have no clue why).

To Jeff, I remember I had my system modded from you back in 99 and you did an excellent job. If it weren't for you, we would have NO MODS. You also showed Victor how to do the mods and were semi-nice about it. Thank you for that (even though Victor should be thanking you), but last night, it seems you were ganging up on me. It seems you have had a problem with me ever since I have been offering mods and conversions....

Well, those were my thoughts. Overall, I am very upset. Nikke and I were working great together, even before you !Arcade! I guess things change.... <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0">
 

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Thanks for the second installment BonusKun. Glad I know who else not to deal with in the community.

From what Professor Mayhem told me today, the chat went into which games were going to get the repro's made of them. Wasn't it Ganryu and Prehistoric Isle 2? PI2 sounds good to me! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by Lou Gojira:
<STRONG>Thanks for the second installment BonusKun. Glad I know who else not to deal with in the community.

<IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

Who else not to deal with?
dude you cant judge some1 by just what people say, that's what i do and i'm happy like that, for example all you people in here do is talk shit about NGF, but when i went to chris to get my collection started he hook me up and big time.....

You people need to get the points straigh here, no1 ripp no1.
Nikke got some converted carts from DR and all were made by me, and even made it to Yahoo japan, and as far as i know he was happy with the work so we got another deal goin aside from DR, and he send me some home carts and MVS to get them converted.
all carts were finish way back in the days, but i had the art take for ever, so he suggested me sending everything back wiht out the art, so i didnt wanted to be short in the deal so i offer him 2-3 free convertions to make up for the difference, and he was happy with that deal, and this happend back in August way before Arcade was in the picture.......
Anyway everything was done and send, i even scann the receipt and all, but i didnt send the stuff out wiht EMS becuause at that time, the mail was taking a long time to get deliver, after a few weeks went by, i email nikke to see how he like the work and to make sure that all games work, but he did not reply back, i even told ray to email him and he didnt reply to his emails either....
What kind of shit is that, that you call all the members into a meeting to tell then the latest new's and all and all you do is trash DR, even after i told then that he had nothing to do with this, all it was going to take was a simple email and that's it, just telling me that the stuff never came, and that a refund was require, not you do nothing but wait and then say all this shit about what happend so everyone could hear this, well guess what, i care less of what people think about me or my work, i know i made a lot of people in here happy by moding there system and converting some games for them, specially since my price was at $90 and included shipping and there stuff was back in 1-2 days, as anyone that deal wiht me here, i just to give my return customers a 10% on there next purshace from me and even trowing in some free games, shit one time some1 bough a neo geo system complete wiht all mods for $300 and i threw in a free MVS game, (NTM) that was a $80 dollar game, i threw in free cause the person had no money and ask me for something to trow in, and like him i hook many others up....ask arround and you'll find out, and also by helping people complete there mvs kits collection by bringing rare kit's out at a low low price......ask arround.
again all it was going to take to get this settle with Nikke was a simple e-mail asking for his money back that's all, Hey
!Arcade did it......and as him he email me this mornign, and it took a few minutes, i have a $2000 MO that im sending out overnigh out of my own pocket, i dont need all this games, since i dont own a system or cab, so i makes no since for me to spend all this money and keep stuff i dont need right?
I did it because i respect Nikke and i feel sorry that he feels that i ripp him off.
Something i will never do, why cause i'm here to help out not make it worse...ask arround....
so dont think it's because i'm scare of all this that i might get in trouble, since i have proff that stuff was send, and even if i didnt, i dont even think Nikke has it either, since the EMS form i got from his package clearly states that it was a $50 dollar value.....
way to much paper work to suit some1 over $50 right, so why the hell did i paid all this anyway, since i dont think there's really anything that can be done...
Again i have a lot of respect for Nikke, and he was great working with, and really hope that in the future if i need anything i could deal wiht him again, (yes i'll paypal you first..LOL)
Again i'm sorry this had to go this way, and dont know why it needed to take so many people to put me down like that, but it's cool i aint mad at Ya....
just today i still had someone asking me for a complete mod, (you know who you are).............
Hope this clear somethings up, and if you people think that i'm a bad apple in this community then fine, ill leave the sene, but give me a good reason why, if not i will still be here with really low prices and many things to choose from, all those people that know me, know what i'm talking about, and i'm sure they will still support me, if not oh well, i know who are really my friends..........
Jeff i said this once and i'll say it again, i have nothing against you, nothing at all, you help me alot at the early days and i thank you for that, but all this trashing arrounds need's to stop, cause i have never put you down, and i love your work, and glad your moving up...................
Ray J, i'll email you the Tracking # tomorrow, and great doing business with you again....=)
And people if you want to judge me, dont take Ray E into this.........

Later.


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[ November 19, 2001: Message edited by: NeoGeo2k2 ]
 

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Originally posted by Lord Akidadus:
<STRONG>Victor came to me wanting 5 inserts. I can't remember the names. I told him it would take A LOT of time to get these done. I have Andy do all my inserts. If you want, verify it with Andy, I don't care. That is all I had to do with it. I didn't even know the deal was for Nikke. Like I said, Nikke never emailed me, contacted me or nothing. This meeting had one goal and that was to make D&R look bad. Jeff, Arcade, and surprisingly Nikke. I've done about 3 or 4 deals with Nikke by MYSELF and no problems. Victor does this deal BY HIMSELF and all these problems occur. I don't know what exactly went on because I had nothing to do with it. What is your goal Arcade, to take me out of business? Give me a break..... Like I said, I do this for FUN, not the money. I'm not some BIG HUGE business like Arcade. I'm a full time college student who happens to love the neo.

It just feels like everyone is here ganging up on me. If that is the case, I'll probably just leave this scene. I can't believe it, you try to help the neo geo scene and all you get is negativity....

I'll make this statement right NOW. Anyone here that feels they have EVER been ripped by ME ONLY, say something. I'll put my reputation up right now. If you feel you were happy with my services, then by all means help me out <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

I'm just tired of all the arrogance. I thought Shawn, !Arcade!, Jeff, and myself are all on the same team. I mean hell, I thought we all had the same goal, to help let the neo live. If your goal is to make money, well then YOUR IN THE WRONG BUSINESS. The demand is just not out there, sorry. Even though I'm a small business, I can never imagine living off of the profit I make out of D&R.

If anyone has a problem with my services, email me directly or just let me know.

I HAVE NO IDEA what happened between Nikke and Victor, and frankly I don't care anymore. As far as I know, all of my customers have been satisfied, and I hope I can be helpful to everyone on this board.

With that being said...

!Arcade! I have absolutely no respect for you. Although, you provide the neo scene with excellent prices and cool new inventions (Converter), you are very unprofessional. You've had something against me since the beginning (I have no clue why).

To Jeff, I remember I had my system modded from you back in 99 and you did an excellent job. If it weren't for you, we would have NO MODS. You also showed Victor how to do the mods and were semi-nice about it. Thank you for that (even though Victor should be thanking you), but last night, it seems you were ganging up on me. It seems you have had a problem with me ever since I have been offering mods and conversions....

Well, those were my thoughts. Overall, I am very upset. Nikke and I were working great together, even before you !Arcade! I guess things change.... <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

A few comments.

I've dealt with you Ray (of D&R games) both as a buyer and a seller. In both cases you were an outstanding person, extremely honest and reliable. You are in all ways an asset to the Neo community, and I would hate to see you leave.

Having said that, I can't see why you don't understand that your association with Victor is destroying your business. Can't you see this? All of Victor's problems, and there have been many, end up reflecting directly on you. I heard of one case, to remain nameless, of a person I know and trust who bought a cart system from Victor that was supposedly fully modded and in mint condition. The system was in reality totally abused, had deep scratches in it, and didn't even work when received!!

This is the bottom line Ray: You are clearly an honest person and very trustworthy in my mind and in that of many others here, but unless you disassociate yourself from Victor, you might as well quit the scene. I'm sorry for the situation you were put in last night, especially since you were probably not involved with that "deal" of Victor's at all. But until you realize what kind of problems he brings to your business, you'll continue to have problems such as what occurred last night.

Finally, if Victor sent $2000 worth of products to Nikke WITHOUT BOTHERING TO REGISTER OR TRACK IT, he's an IDIOT. NO ONE should send high dollar items or payments without tracking/insuring/confirming said items. There's no excuse for that, period. Except idiocy . . . <IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0">

[ November 19, 2001: Message edited by: chimpmeister ]
 

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Who would have thought the Neo scene would have politics?

I would just like to say that I have dealt with NeoGeo2k2 personally as well as "D&R Games" and I have been more than satisfied with their services.

Peace

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I don't know Victor, but Ray and I have been talking since I started out here, and he is one hell of a guy!

I have sent Jeff Kurtz emails about Victor dogging Jeffs work...and Jeff told me a couple things about his mod jobs as well...

Ray, if you need someone to partner with, I suggest myself.

And Vic, about Chris Ray...I agree with you on that, Chris is a great guy to deal with, but his fuck of a partner screws it up for him...I had no trouble getting a MINT Pulstar off him w/o a stamp or other bullshit...I've never EVER had a problem with Chris personally, its his shit company and Greek partner I'm feuding with...
 

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Originally posted by chimpmeister:
<STRONG>A few comments.

I've dealt with you Ray (of D&R games) both as a buyer and a seller. In both cases you were an outstanding person, extremely honest and reliable. You are in all ways an asset to the Neo community, and I would hate to see you leave.

Having said that, I can't see why you don't understand that your association with Victor is destroying your business. Can't you see this? All of Victor's problems, and there have been many, end up reflecting directly on you. I heard of one case, to remain nameless, of a person I know and trust who bought a cart system from Victor that was supposedly fully modded and in mint condition. The system was in reality totally abused, had deep scratches in it, and didn't even work when received!!

This is the bottom line Ray: You are clearly an honest person and very trustworthy in my mind and in that of many others here, but unless you disassociate yourself from Victor, you might as well quit the scene. I'm sorry for the situation you were put in last night, especially since you were probably not involved with that "deal" of Victor's at all. But until you realize what kind of problems he brings to your business, you'll continue to have problems such as what occurred last night.

Finally, if Victor sent a IPMO (money order) for $2000 to Nikke WITHOUT BOTHERING TO REGISTER OR TRACK IT, he's an IDIOT. NO ONE should send high dollar items or payments without tracking/insuring/confirming said items. There's no excuse for that, period. Except idiocy . . . <IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0"></STRONG>


Chimp,
Can i call you chimp?
you bring some good points, he should just stop doing business with me, but your forgetting that, i'm the one that do all the technical stuff, and if he wants to stop supporting that, then it's fine....

You know someone that bough a system from me, if i remember correctly, it was Arcade that bough the system, and he said it was this and that, but then the next day after i got the system, from him, (yes cause he email me telling me he wanted a refund and i send it right away, i always like to keep my customers happy), anyway i turn arround and sold it the next day to [daddy] ask him, it's the same system same serial # 104k ask him, he email me telling me how great the system works and how clean it looks, hey if the other person was expecting a brand new super neo for $300 then sorry, but like i said email Daddy have him give you the Serial it's the same one, and ask him what he thinks, trust me you'll be surprice...
JH you and I go way back and it's always great doing business wiht you.
 

Kyokugen Star

Zero's Tailor
Joined
Apr 30, 2001
Posts
551
Guys I feel I have to step in for Ray (LA) here. I bought a very pricey item off him recently (Prehistoric Isle 2 Conversion) and the transaction went very smooth. Absolutely nothing to complain about.

And Nikke also is one hell of a good seller and friend of mine who would NEVER rip anyone off.

Don`t know about this Victor guy though ...
 

Daisuke Jigen

R.I.P.,, Dear Friend,
Joined
Sep 18, 2000
Posts
4,577
It doesn't matter if the mail is "slow", you don't send out 2000+ worth of payment via regular air mail, that is asking for trouble.
 

BRANDI

Franco's Trainer
20 Year Member
Joined
Apr 29, 2001
Posts
3,594
I really don't want to get into this personal thread, i just want to share my experience...
I dealt two times in the last few months with Ray; i bought from him 2 converted AES carts (a JPN Shock Troopers and a JPN Neo Diftout).
In both occasions everything went smooth, Ray has been friendly, honest and professional; so, for me, he's a very good seller <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
Don't know and i've never dealt with this Victor, though...
 
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