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Man I swear the annoyance that comes when someone gets busted for not honoring a deal or just plain runs with the money is enough to give anyone a headache.
The general purpose of these logs Part 1 & part 2 is to bring to light some bad dealings in the Neo Scene which a lot of people are currently unaware of. It helps a lot of people in the end know who to deal with and who not to trust with your hard-earned money.
That said I'll now post Part 2 of Last Nights Logs. Please Note it's a bit of the same with a it more proof of complaints made towards the guilty party in these actions.
(Nikke)Sad I do not feel that way
(Phantom1)when can we expect payment
(NeoGeo2k2)Ray again this is between me and nik you were not part of this deal back then
(Phantom1)no it's not Victor
(Phantom1)Nikke is my partner
(Nikke)All I know Victor is that I sent you stuff for about $2000
(NeoGeo2k2)like i said i will not spend 2000 just for fun let me do some tracking and if true that the money order was not collect and all, then shit i'll pay
(Phantom1)you will send the paymnet to me
(Nikke)three months ago
(Nikke)and still nothing
(NeoGeo2k2)i have no problem with that
(NeoGeo2k2)again people now me for being an honest person, and i always pay for what i own, always
(Nikke)Victor
(Phantom1)Victor, you are full of shit you never sent anything
(NeoGeo2k2)i dont feel good abot ripping people off specially using stolen stuff, that's just not me
(Phantom1)and you know it
(Nikke)I was a naive fool when I started this business I can give you that
(NeoGeo2k2)Nikke how can you prove that?
(Nikke)What??
(NeoGeo2k2)that i never send you anything?
(Phantom1)This guy is to much
(Nikke)That you are full of shit
(NeoGeo2k2)why would i want to ripp you off?
(Nikke)Money
(Nikke)asshole!!!
(NeoGeo2k2)give me one good reason, over 2k, comeone dude i make that in a week
(Nikke)everything is about money!!
(Nikke)good for you
(Nikke)so you do charity
(Phantom1)you have been ripping a few people off Victor would you like me to start posting their mails?
(NeoGeo2k2)like i said let me do some tracking and if it's true that you never got it then i'll pay for it no sweat
(Nikke)Give me the tracking now
(Nikke)I want it
(Nikke)tracking number please
(NeoGeo2k2)i dont have a traking # i told you that before.
(Nikke)That is convienient
(Lord_Akidadus)You don't get one with airmail
(Phantom1)Victor, You are finished in this business.
(NeoGeo2k2)give me a week or 2 to find out what happend, and i'll more then happy to paypal you or write and mo if it's true that you never got it.
(Phantom1)you have had months
(Nikke)Man I gave you three months
(Nikke)I am sorry Victor
(Nikke)I am a very nice guy
(Nikke)Too nice
(NeoGeo2k2)why you dindt email me to take care of this then
(Nikke)But I did
(NeoGeo2k2)way wait,
(Nikke)Ohh I did
(Nikke)but that is not the point
(NeoGeo2k2)why wait all this time
(Nikke)You send what you promise that is business
(Lord_Akidadus)You never replied to my emails either NIkke.....
(Phantom1)hang on for a minute Victor I have something to show you
(Nikke)Ok
(NeoGeo2k2)ray i really dont have time
(NeoGeo2k2)Nikke so we have a deal.
(NeoGeo2k2)and ray
(Phantom1)"Victor Corona sucks, I bought a neo geo from him that he claimed was like new and it was the worst looking system that I had ever seen, didnt even work when I attempted to test it out."
(Phantom1)"Shit, you guessed it, D & R games....you know something I dont? I knew it was a gamble, damn"
(NeoGeo2k2)jsut give me a week or 2 that's all
(Phantom1)"Damn, I'm too trusting, and I was wondering what was up with that sloppy mod job. Is the thing salvageable?"
(Phantom1)"I purchased the system from D&R games about three months ago. It took forever to get here."
(Phantom1)"I'm kind of new to the Neo scene, so I guess I could partially be to blame for not checking out the credentials of the site I purchased the system from. The system worked fine for awhile, but I suppose it was bound to fail eventually if it's that messed up. I know nothing about the inner workings of these things, so I could never check the work."
(Lord_Akidadus)Just because you deal with Victor DOES NOT mean you deal with D&R, I wish people would get that right.
(NeoGeo2k2)and what happend i said if you dont like it i'll be more than happy to pay for it.
(NeoGeo2k2)and i did
(NeoGeo2k2)so then nikke is that cool
(Phantom1)"some body on the forum told me not to order from them..and now they are acting weird on their your site....both saying they didnt do anything wrong and nobody accused them"
(Nikke)What?
(Phantom1)"Those guys at D and R are scumbags? They were trying to sell some stuff that Im interested in and I heard from a buddy they are crooks"
(Phantom1)"Holy shit, this is the same guy (D&R) that wanted to do my MS-1 for me. but something told me not too, so I had Jeff do it instead and I was very very pleased."
(Lord_Akidadus)LOL
(NeoGeo2k2)Nikke?
(Lord_Akidadus)Is this some sort of scam Ray?
(Nikke)Yes
(Phantom1)only by you guys
*** BonusKun sets mode: +v JMKurtz
(Lord_Akidadus)Ok, lets gather eveyone here to make me look bad?
(NeoGeo2k2)are we cool on that, just let me do a little checking and if it's true i'll be more than happy to pay for what i own
(Lord_Akidadus)How come these people didn't email me?
(Nikke)You want to send the stuff
(Nikke)now
(Lord_Akidadus)Thought so....
(Nikke)you mean
(Phantom1)you do a good job all on your own Ray
(Nikke)too late
(Nikke)Send it to Ray
(NeoGeo2k)Nikke i can send the stuff, but check what happend to it and pay you the 2k
(Nikke)do not bother
(JMKurtz)NG2k -- why do I get e-mails requsting repairs from systems you have modified?
(NeoGeo2k2)send payment to ray? what?
(Nikke)Why should I have to drag all the scumbags to this chat room to get my money
(NeoGeo2k2)i dont know
(NeoGeo2k2)Nikke? what?
(Nikke)I am a tired guy
(Phantom)Victor you will send the payment to me
(Nikke)I am too soft
(Nikke)too nice
(Phantom1)too old
(NeoGeo2k2)Nikke give me 1-2 weeks and trust me you'll get your cash
(Lord_Akidadus)Nikke, if you had these problems with Victor, why didn't you ever email me?
(Nikke)Haha
(NeoGeo2k2)yeah
(Phantom1)you have 3 days
(Nikke)He said he is in this together with you
(Lord_Akidadus)No
(Phantom1)yes
(Lord_Akidadus)He does his own deals
(NeoGeo2k)nikke not in all the stuff
(Lord_Akidadus)He does my mods
(Nikke)And I have receievd mails from other customers claiming you to be scum
(NeoGeo2k2)even on the first email i told you it was just you and I
(Lord_Akidadus)Doesn't mean he "co owns D*R"
(Nikke)yes even you Ray
(JMKurtz)I've done mods for Victor, and mailed packaged BACK to Ray... Do the math.
(NeoGeo2k2)Jm that was before we did mod's
(Lord_Akidadus)Yes, because I am usually home to collect the mail
(JMKurtz)Using "we" implies togetherness.
(Phantom1)send us our damn money and get outta Dodge
(Nikke)In several mails I was told that Ray is the one doing the inserts
(NeoGeo2k2)Ray like i said, i have no prblem paying you what i own, i told you taht
(Phantom1)you guys are full of shit
(Lord_Akidadus)Yes, I am
(Lord_Akidadus)I am full of shit?
(NeoGeo2k2)Ray is that cool?
(Phantom1)you know it
(Nikke)I was waiting two months for thise inserts
(Nikke)Two months
(NeoGeo2k2)So who will me my contact person
(Phantom1)is it cool you what you are selling people Victor
(NeoGeo2k)who do i email
(Nikke)Ray why did you not finnish those up for mwe
(Lord_Akidadus)Finish what Nikke?
(Nikke)The inserts
(NeoGeo2k2)Nikke again this is between you and i
(Nikke)Did not Victor mentioned any inserts
(Lord_Akidadus)I gave the order to Andy who does them for me, but he never had time to do them.
(NeoGeo2k2)Fuck this, its a waiste of time, who do i pay? just give me 6 days
(Nikke)hahaha
(Lord_Akidadus)Plus Victor didn't know if he wan't jap or us
(Nikke)you call that business
(Nikke)hahaha
(Lord_Akidadus)Plus Victor didn't know if he wan't jap or us
(Nikke)you call that business
(Lord_Akidadus)Is this even the real nikke?
(NeoGeo2k2)Phantom is that cool
(Nikke)I told Victor that if youi can not get this together for me send back my stuff
(Nikke)I said that in a mail fro one month ago
(NeoGeo2k2)Nikke so do i send it to Ray or You?
(Phantom1)me
(Nikke)Get it out to Ray
(NeoGeo2k2)OK done. see how easy that was, all it takes is talk
(Nikke)no
(Phantom1)ok what do you gentlemen wish to know
(Nikke)Not just talking
(NeoGeo2k2)Phantom1 so it's 6 days cool?
(Phantom1)2k2 I will e-mail the address where to send the payment
Thankfully this was about it for the argument. It did span out for a bit but in the end we did move onto some more topics besides the dirty laundry.
I will make this the focus point of Part 3. Thanks you.
The general purpose of these logs Part 1 & part 2 is to bring to light some bad dealings in the Neo Scene which a lot of people are currently unaware of. It helps a lot of people in the end know who to deal with and who not to trust with your hard-earned money.
That said I'll now post Part 2 of Last Nights Logs. Please Note it's a bit of the same with a it more proof of complaints made towards the guilty party in these actions.
(Nikke)Sad I do not feel that way
(Phantom1)when can we expect payment
(NeoGeo2k2)Ray again this is between me and nik you were not part of this deal back then
(Phantom1)no it's not Victor
(Phantom1)Nikke is my partner
(Nikke)All I know Victor is that I sent you stuff for about $2000
(NeoGeo2k2)like i said i will not spend 2000 just for fun let me do some tracking and if true that the money order was not collect and all, then shit i'll pay
(Phantom1)you will send the paymnet to me
(Nikke)three months ago
(Nikke)and still nothing
(NeoGeo2k2)i have no problem with that
(NeoGeo2k2)again people now me for being an honest person, and i always pay for what i own, always
(Nikke)Victor
(Phantom1)Victor, you are full of shit you never sent anything
(NeoGeo2k2)i dont feel good abot ripping people off specially using stolen stuff, that's just not me
(Phantom1)and you know it
(Nikke)I was a naive fool when I started this business I can give you that
(NeoGeo2k2)Nikke how can you prove that?
(Nikke)What??
(NeoGeo2k2)that i never send you anything?
(Phantom1)This guy is to much
(Nikke)That you are full of shit
(NeoGeo2k2)why would i want to ripp you off?
(Nikke)Money
(Nikke)asshole!!!
(NeoGeo2k2)give me one good reason, over 2k, comeone dude i make that in a week
(Nikke)everything is about money!!
(Nikke)good for you
(Nikke)so you do charity
(Phantom1)you have been ripping a few people off Victor would you like me to start posting their mails?
(NeoGeo2k2)like i said let me do some tracking and if it's true that you never got it then i'll pay for it no sweat
(Nikke)Give me the tracking now
(Nikke)I want it
(Nikke)tracking number please
(NeoGeo2k2)i dont have a traking # i told you that before.
(Nikke)That is convienient
(Lord_Akidadus)You don't get one with airmail
(Phantom1)Victor, You are finished in this business.
(NeoGeo2k2)give me a week or 2 to find out what happend, and i'll more then happy to paypal you or write and mo if it's true that you never got it.
(Phantom1)you have had months
(Nikke)Man I gave you three months
(Nikke)I am sorry Victor
(Nikke)I am a very nice guy
(Nikke)Too nice
(NeoGeo2k2)why you dindt email me to take care of this then
(Nikke)But I did
(NeoGeo2k2)way wait,
(Nikke)Ohh I did
(Nikke)but that is not the point
(NeoGeo2k2)why wait all this time
(Nikke)You send what you promise that is business
(Lord_Akidadus)You never replied to my emails either NIkke.....
(Phantom1)hang on for a minute Victor I have something to show you
(Nikke)Ok
(NeoGeo2k2)ray i really dont have time
(NeoGeo2k2)Nikke so we have a deal.
(NeoGeo2k2)and ray
(Phantom1)"Victor Corona sucks, I bought a neo geo from him that he claimed was like new and it was the worst looking system that I had ever seen, didnt even work when I attempted to test it out."
(Phantom1)"Shit, you guessed it, D & R games....you know something I dont? I knew it was a gamble, damn"
(NeoGeo2k2)jsut give me a week or 2 that's all
(Phantom1)"Damn, I'm too trusting, and I was wondering what was up with that sloppy mod job. Is the thing salvageable?"
(Phantom1)"I purchased the system from D&R games about three months ago. It took forever to get here."
(Phantom1)"I'm kind of new to the Neo scene, so I guess I could partially be to blame for not checking out the credentials of the site I purchased the system from. The system worked fine for awhile, but I suppose it was bound to fail eventually if it's that messed up. I know nothing about the inner workings of these things, so I could never check the work."
(Lord_Akidadus)Just because you deal with Victor DOES NOT mean you deal with D&R, I wish people would get that right.
(NeoGeo2k2)and what happend i said if you dont like it i'll be more than happy to pay for it.
(NeoGeo2k2)and i did
(NeoGeo2k2)so then nikke is that cool
(Phantom1)"some body on the forum told me not to order from them..and now they are acting weird on their your site....both saying they didnt do anything wrong and nobody accused them"
(Nikke)What?
(Phantom1)"Those guys at D and R are scumbags? They were trying to sell some stuff that Im interested in and I heard from a buddy they are crooks"
(Phantom1)"Holy shit, this is the same guy (D&R) that wanted to do my MS-1 for me. but something told me not too, so I had Jeff do it instead and I was very very pleased."
(Lord_Akidadus)LOL
(NeoGeo2k2)Nikke?
(Lord_Akidadus)Is this some sort of scam Ray?
(Nikke)Yes
(Phantom1)only by you guys
*** BonusKun sets mode: +v JMKurtz
(Lord_Akidadus)Ok, lets gather eveyone here to make me look bad?
(NeoGeo2k2)are we cool on that, just let me do a little checking and if it's true i'll be more than happy to pay for what i own
(Lord_Akidadus)How come these people didn't email me?
(Nikke)You want to send the stuff
(Nikke)now
(Lord_Akidadus)Thought so....
(Nikke)you mean
(Phantom1)you do a good job all on your own Ray
(Nikke)too late
(Nikke)Send it to Ray
(NeoGeo2k)Nikke i can send the stuff, but check what happend to it and pay you the 2k
(Nikke)do not bother
(JMKurtz)NG2k -- why do I get e-mails requsting repairs from systems you have modified?
(NeoGeo2k2)send payment to ray? what?
(Nikke)Why should I have to drag all the scumbags to this chat room to get my money
(NeoGeo2k2)i dont know
(NeoGeo2k2)Nikke? what?
(Nikke)I am a tired guy
(Phantom)Victor you will send the payment to me
(Nikke)I am too soft
(Nikke)too nice
(Phantom1)too old
(NeoGeo2k2)Nikke give me 1-2 weeks and trust me you'll get your cash
(Lord_Akidadus)Nikke, if you had these problems with Victor, why didn't you ever email me?
(Nikke)Haha
(NeoGeo2k2)yeah
(Phantom1)you have 3 days
(Nikke)He said he is in this together with you
(Lord_Akidadus)No
(Phantom1)yes
(Lord_Akidadus)He does his own deals
(NeoGeo2k)nikke not in all the stuff
(Lord_Akidadus)He does my mods
(Nikke)And I have receievd mails from other customers claiming you to be scum
(NeoGeo2k2)even on the first email i told you it was just you and I
(Lord_Akidadus)Doesn't mean he "co owns D*R"
(Nikke)yes even you Ray
(JMKurtz)I've done mods for Victor, and mailed packaged BACK to Ray... Do the math.
(NeoGeo2k2)Jm that was before we did mod's
(Lord_Akidadus)Yes, because I am usually home to collect the mail
(JMKurtz)Using "we" implies togetherness.
(Phantom1)send us our damn money and get outta Dodge
(Nikke)In several mails I was told that Ray is the one doing the inserts
(NeoGeo2k2)Ray like i said, i have no prblem paying you what i own, i told you taht
(Phantom1)you guys are full of shit
(Lord_Akidadus)Yes, I am
(Lord_Akidadus)I am full of shit?
(NeoGeo2k2)Ray is that cool?
(Phantom1)you know it
(Nikke)I was waiting two months for thise inserts
(Nikke)Two months
(NeoGeo2k2)So who will me my contact person
(Phantom1)is it cool you what you are selling people Victor
(NeoGeo2k)who do i email
(Nikke)Ray why did you not finnish those up for mwe
(Lord_Akidadus)Finish what Nikke?
(Nikke)The inserts
(NeoGeo2k2)Nikke again this is between you and i
(Nikke)Did not Victor mentioned any inserts
(Lord_Akidadus)I gave the order to Andy who does them for me, but he never had time to do them.
(NeoGeo2k2)Fuck this, its a waiste of time, who do i pay? just give me 6 days
(Nikke)hahaha
(Lord_Akidadus)Plus Victor didn't know if he wan't jap or us
(Nikke)you call that business
(Nikke)hahaha
(Lord_Akidadus)Plus Victor didn't know if he wan't jap or us
(Nikke)you call that business
(Lord_Akidadus)Is this even the real nikke?
(NeoGeo2k2)Phantom is that cool
(Nikke)I told Victor that if youi can not get this together for me send back my stuff
(Nikke)I said that in a mail fro one month ago
(NeoGeo2k2)Nikke so do i send it to Ray or You?
(Phantom1)me
(Nikke)Get it out to Ray
(NeoGeo2k2)OK done. see how easy that was, all it takes is talk
(Nikke)no
(Phantom1)ok what do you gentlemen wish to know
(Nikke)Not just talking
(NeoGeo2k2)Phantom1 so it's 6 days cool?
(Phantom1)2k2 I will e-mail the address where to send the payment
Thankfully this was about it for the argument. It did span out for a bit but in the end we did move onto some more topics besides the dirty laundry.
I will make this the focus point of Part 3. Thanks you.