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Mouse_Master
11-14-2001, 04:40 PM
Yes, it is true! Take a look, here is a little teaser to wet your hunger!
http://www.radix.net/~atari/neogeodev.html

More to come... <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

Blaine
11-14-2001, 04:47 PM
I know somepeople say I'm anti-homebrew...I'm really not. I'm just anti-homebrew tools...they just encourage piracy.

Mousemaster, let be the first to congratulate you, Trey and Jeff.

Although Trey is perfectly capable of doing it himself...if you need help on the insert, manual or sticker I'll be happy to help.

Daisuke Jigen
11-14-2001, 05:06 PM
Stunning. <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0">

Wolf
11-14-2001, 05:30 PM
very cool idea, but hard to get onto cart format.

Wolf
11-14-2001, 05:37 PM
Wait a sec. Judging by the sega logo, I'd say you have found some way to force a genesis rom to run on an emulator that runs on the neo hardware (sort of a genesis wrapper that speaks to the neo hardware). The neo has the same z-80 processor so you wouldn't even have to emulate an entire genesis system. There is a very big step between running an emulated genesis rom on the neo hardware and developing software that runs on its own. Good luck nevertheless.

FeelGood
11-14-2001, 05:38 PM
This is a good move, keith. I bet the three of you are going to pull it off with finesse. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

Mouse_Master
11-14-2001, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by Blaine:
<STRONG>I know somepeople say I'm anti-homebrew...I'm really not. I'm just anti-homebrew tools...they just encourage piracy.

Mousemaster, let be the first to congratulate you, Trey and Jeff.

Although Trey is perfectly capable of doing it himself...if you need help on the insert, manual or sticker I'll be happy to help.</STRONG>

Hey, you are always more than welcome to try your hand at making some insert/sticker combos and asking Trey to add them to his homebrew page with the other works that have been made over the past couple of years!

As far as piracy, at this point in the game, it really makes no difference anymore in my eyes. We have reached the same point as the Atari Jaguar almost it seems. Hopefully things will work the same as they have with the Jaguar, at least 7 quality releases since its death with more on the way!

[ November 14, 2001: Message edited by: Mouse_Master ]

Mouse_Master
11-14-2001, 05:56 PM
Originally posted by Wolf:
<STRONG>very cool idea, but hard to get onto cart format.</STRONG>

Not really. If things work out, you could probably get !Arcade! to make you a cartridge of the game since they created PCBs that clone the SNK boards. The game code would just be burned into Eproms. But that is looking well into the future.

Mouse_Master
11-14-2001, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by Wolf:
<STRONG>Wait a sec. Judging by the sega logo, I'd say you have found some way to force a genesis rom to run on an emulator that runs on the neo hardware (sort of a genesis wrapper that speaks to the neo hardware). The neo has the same z-80 processor so you wouldn't even have to emulate an entire genesis system. There is a very big step between running an emulated genesis rom on the neo hardware and developing software that runs on its own. Good luck nevertheless.</STRONG>

Nope! Thats all fresh code. The Genesis and the Neo, while very similar, operate very differently! The way each system utilizies the Z80 is different, and the way sound works is different. In the Genesis, the M68k can play sounds on the YM2612 sound chip, while in the Neo Geo, it seems that sounds is all controlled by the Z80, it sends signals to the YM2610.

While both systems use similar chipsets, the underlying architecture is vastly different.

Hop
11-14-2001, 06:07 PM
lol how much is that colums games $500?

Kazuya_UK
11-14-2001, 06:20 PM
Looks nice... I'm all for this type of thing personally, so best of luck to you! <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

Mike
11-14-2001, 06:50 PM
Soon, maybe a Streets of Rage 2, or 3?!

On the Neo?! That would kick ass!

rarehero
11-15-2001, 01:13 AM
great news!
that truely is a labor of love if
you have to backwards engineer the
NEOGEO.
good luck!
personally i d like to see
a cool sidescroller on it..
a cross between castlevania and...
um castlevania <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
heheh.
anyways.
i always wondered what happened to
vectorlogic and their kits...
they seemed to have so much promise and then
they dropped from the scene...
eh?
sorry.. off topic.
good luck!
hope it works out!

LastResort
11-15-2001, 04:53 AM
Bring on Gunstar Heroes or Alien Soldier. <IMG SRC="smilies/glee.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/drool2.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/drool2.gif" border="0">

LastResort

Robert
11-15-2001, 05:17 AM
it's interesting but I prefer the game developed for the neo geo and not the 'adapted games'

Takumaji
11-15-2001, 06:41 AM
Hey, that looks promising, although I expected a "real" homebrewn native Neo game, not an adaption.

As a big Genesis fan I do believe that your ideas will work, and if all that will become reality, I'm with ya!

After a quick look thru my Genesis collection I would die for adaptions of

- Castlevania Bloodlines/New Gener.
- Gunstar Heroes
- Sonic (any part)
- Speed Ball II
- Tatsujin
- Mr. Heli
- Streets of Rage 2+3
- M.U.S.H.A
- Alisia Dragoon
- Shinobi (any part)
- Landstalker
.
.
.

But what about the legal issues of this project? Sega wouldn't be too happy about this, what do you think?

waku7
11-15-2001, 07:18 AM
Why not a KING OF FIGHTERS legend with totally all the persos of all the kof serie and more than 1000Mega shock..
<IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

lol
hope you will succeed!


good job for all the staff.
congratulations

[ November 15, 2001: Message edited by: waku7 ]

Daisuke Jigen
11-15-2001, 08:24 AM
I will presonally fund the conversion of Dracula X to the NEO. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

JMKurtz
11-15-2001, 08:40 AM
"Columns" was just used as a learning experience. The logic for this type of game is so simple to mimic. It was easier to do this style game rather than start something so complex that we'd just give up.

We're moving on to other games, which will be Neo originals. We've got a lot more to learn...

I guess you could classify this game as a "Prototype"? <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

Jeff

Herzog Drei
11-15-2001, 08:59 AM
Hopefully just the first of an new breed of games!

Awesome job,guys! <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
PLZ keep posting about further development! <IMG SRC="smilies/drool2.gif" border="0">

chimpmeister
11-15-2001, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by waku7:
<STRONG>Why not a KING OF FIGHTERS legend with totally all the persos of all the kof serie and more than 1000Mega shock..
<IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

lol
hope you will succeed!


good job for all the staff.
congratulations

[ November 15, 2001: Message edited by: waku7 ]</STRONG>

Waku7 could you please reduce the size of your signature, at 334K its much too large. Thanks. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

evasyar
11-15-2001, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by chimpmeister:
<STRONG>Waku7 could you please reduce the size of your signature, at 334K its much too large. Thanks. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

Hey chimpmeister - What would be a total acceptable size of sig pics??? <IMG SRC="smilies/redface.gif" border="0">

NSX-T
11-17-2001, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by Mouse_Master:
<STRONG>Yes, it is true! Take a look, here is a little teaser to wet your hunger!
http://www.radix.net/~atari/neogeodev.html

More to come... <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

Can you guys do a Golden Axe, Shinobi, Ghouls and Ghost, or a ESWAT arcade running on the NEO GEO?

Atariguy
11-17-2001, 12:10 PM
Will this be made for Neo CD? You could just put the game online for people to download it and burn it to a disk.

NeoGeoHybrid
11-17-2001, 02:49 PM
warriors of rome 2
populous
phantasy star 2 and 4
budokahn
streets of rage 2
gauntlet!!!!!!!!!!!!
converted to neo would be nice

NeoGeoHybrid
11-17-2001, 02:49 PM
warriors of rome 2
populous
phantasy star 2 and 4
budokahn
streets of rage 2
gauntlet!!!!!!!!!!!!
converted to neo would be nice
oh and ramparts too

JMKurtz
11-19-2001, 08:50 AM
I really can't post "Columns" since it's basically a rip of someone else's game (Sega). I may e-mail and ask for permission though. If not, no big loss, we're redoing the graphics, sounds, and gameplay to make an original game.

Jeff



Originally posted by Atariguy:
<STRONG>Will this be made for Neo CD? You could just put the game online for people to download it and burn it to a disk.</STRONG>

Caris Nautilus
11-19-2001, 08:54 AM
Originally posted by NeoGeoHybrid:
<STRONG>warriors of rome 2
populous
phantasy star 2 and 4
budokahn
streets of rage 2
gauntlet!!!!!!!!!!!!
converted to neo would be nice
oh and ramparts too</STRONG>

What would be the point of making all those on the Neo? When they are all readily available already on another system?

I really don't think "re-packaging" other systems original games to work on the Neo is all that great. It's just emulation, using a Neo instead of a PC.

But the original games J. Kurtz speaks of sounds really cool.

[ November 19, 2001: Message edited by: Drift King EX ]

Briggs
11-19-2001, 02:55 PM
I would love to see a MAME port to a MVS cart. It would be sweet to be able to have 4 or 5 carts with all the classics on them. Anybody agree?

Chichiri
11-19-2001, 06:42 PM
Don't anybody's head explode when I day this but...I agree with drift king (makes sure he doesn't have a tempurature) no sense in redoing old genesis games on the neo because its cheaper for genesis 9assumign that these games may very well one day be burned onto actual carts, let us hope so), illegal, and just not nearly as cool as the though of a brand new game. though enhanced versions or "fansequals" to existing games would be rather cool. Maybe borrowing the engine of another game even. But straight out ripping off another companies game is rather weak, especially if you intend to distribute it highly. plus its a waste of time, beause if you can dl a neo rom, you can dl a genesis rom that will most likely be a better copy anyway.

DEVIL_GUI
11-20-2001, 09:39 AM
I CAN SEE A GOOD POTENTIAL FOR THIS DEVICE.........ESPECIALLY FROM A GAME MAKING POINT OF VIEW..........

ID LIKE TO SEE WHAT SOME OF YOU CRAZY FUNSTERS COULD COME UP WITH........

(IVE ABOUT 80 MEGADRIVE GAMES(GIVE OR GIVE), SO IM NOT HURTING FOR MEGADRIVE TITLES) I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME COOL SEQUELS OR GAME REMIXES (SAY PHANTASY STAR 4 EGINE, MAPS SPRITES, DUNGEONS DIALOGUE MUSIC AND GRAPHIC ALL CHANGED, AND THE GAMES LENGTH DOUBLED)

IT WOULD BE COOL TO SEE!

DEVIL_GUI

Caris Nautilus
11-20-2001, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by Chichiri:
<STRONG>Don't anybody's head explode when I day this but...I agree with drift king</STRONG>

Why would anyone's head explode? I never make invalid points, or post lies. Moreover I don't even know you, so why should you have a problem with me?

[ November 20, 2001: Message edited by: Drift King EX ]