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Mike

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Word on the Street
As with recent events in the Japanese amusement sector the truth is stranger than many of the rumors floating around. Last month speculation and rumor leading up to AMOA talked of back room deals over the Intellectual Properties (IP) of SNK. The Eolith operation spoke privately of using SNK licenses beyond the showing of their King Of Fighters 2001, and US distributors hinted at special deals to get their hands on whatever should arise.


Well the rumors have been replaced by some hard facts and the REPORT has the skinny.


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It would appear that the Boardroom battles hinted at during August were totally accurate. The texture and content of the vitriol thrown around from Aruze seems to point to a decision at that point to block the maverick SNK "last minute" show of defiance, and their reluctance to make available IP for pachinko purposes. It would seem that Aruze undertook a "wait and pick up the pieces brief" and blocked all options for the SNK board. The Aruze board sulking heavily when SNK decided to move back to their old location and attempt some autonomy.


At the same time a number of unusual promissory notes have been handed out to various interested parties regarding the availability of SNK properties for acquisition. Leaked as far back as January the REPORT linked Capcom to the formulation of a team of ex-SNK developers to produce future KOF and Samurai Showdown titles. Also the much-contested KOF'01 route through a Korean development team linked to BreezaSoft (further ex-SNK staff) pointed to an exodus of talent, waiting for the IP content to follow!


The facts however seem to underline rumors that rather than supporting the 11,000 Neo-Geo MVS owners in the field, a more IGS (the Taiwanese developers of the Metal Slug look alike Demon Fantasy) style route would be adopted. Talk from well-placed sources speaks of a new series of PCB boards, building on past MVS technology, but non-compatible with the hardware. One source terms this a "high and dry" route. This would mean that the next four SNK derived games (under development by external groups) would be unique hardware, possibly forcing the MVS unit to be pulled out and a JAMMA compatible PCB to be replaced. Literally discarding the eleven years MVS to the scrap heap! This can be seen as a means to support better performance architecture as the MVS cartridge system, even with the new Giga Chip expansion is incredibly dated, but also a means for the new developers such as the fledgling Korean teams wanting to build their own empire.


What Could this all Mean
For the operator a list of strong MVS games seems to be in the wings:
1. King of Fighters 2001
2. Data East Ghost Loop
3. Metal Slug 4


However they are yet to fully throw their hat into the ring it is expected that the interest generated by the behind the scenes road-show by Eolith at AMOA and ENADA will see a US distribution to operator path, and a familiar European path for KOF'01. If this starts a landslide of interest then more plundering of the SNK library, which includes a number of primary series, will augment these three games.


This route may be hampered if a hostile acquisition plan of IP is made by a manufacturer with a vested interest. It would not be beyond comprehension to see Capcom salivating at the chance to own SNK back catalogue material. At the same time, with all the developers gone, and only the IP as a fixed asset Aruze in salvaging their debt may go for an auction style sale of the juicer properties.
SNK is sitting on titles (beyond their recent HyperWare representation) that are highly attractive in these days of retro gaming. Second only to Taito or even Atari, the list of SNK titles are instantly recognizable to players across a wide generation gap. Metal Slug, KOF, Samurai Showdown and Mark of the Wolf just some of the dynasty of titles that have a long life ahead of them. Ensuring that KOF never competes in splitting the Street Fighter revenue opportunity again (as is being threatened by the Korean release) is a price worth paying for Capcom. Capcom have even announced the start of Capcom Vs. SNK 3, seeming to jump the gun as SNK faulted.


It is safe to say that ZuPapa! will be the last officially sponsored SNK release. Even if the company is salvaged and restarts the releases and structure will be so altered to warrant the use of a new name. Rumors circulating with the news of the Japanese winding up order on SNK talked of a major move by certain Korean companies to try and take control of SNK when the assets become available with the restructuring of the corporation (expected to receive stiff competition from Capcom). It has been reported that BreezaSoft and their first original game Crystal Kings and Eolith will have their games distributed in the US and Europe, and could become the successors, heirs to the SNK throne now left vacant.


It has become open season on copies of popular SNK titles in this new climate. Along with the IGS Demons Fantasy knock off a second Metal Slug want to be (called Tomak: The Shooting!) has been seen. Counterfeiting of MVS cartridge has been a constant strain on SNK, with two major police raids initiated last year. It is expected to become open season on these titles with the loss of the current SNK structure. Also the threats of legal action certain companies who were proposing to release MVS original titles will also see the news of the collapse of SNK as a chance to release their titles, such as the delayed NeoSpark: Golden Edition.


For those companies that had entered into agreements with SNK have been sadly left high and dry. In stark comparison to the previously mentioned successful commencement of software based on Midway classics appearing from HyperWare. The American company has been left in the lurch regarding their negotiations for the release of a dedicated cabinet called the UltraCade NeoGeo Pack that incorporated 44 games. HyperWare had been dealing with the US distributor of SNK (Apple Industries Inc.) who had been acting as a go between with the 'difficult' SNK executive structure. Now that the all lines to SNK Japan have gone cold, HyperWare wait with everyone else to see if they can go forward with their system. A product that was well received at the AMOA could be still born of no true resumption of IP ownership can be determined.
SNK, a name that will be surly missed - however the REPORT feels that the 'games' will live on, and may even increase in number, without the albatross of the eclectic SNK board!
 

Daisuke Jigen

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That was some interesting reading.

Hm.....police raids on bootleg MVS cart producers?

EXCELLENT!

Sooo...on the topic of Neo Sparks...did Vektorlogic get shut down?
 

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Hmm, interesting. Please link to the source. Never knew SNK went hardcore on bootleggers like that! I can see it now, the police raid a wherehouse full of a bunch of HK nerds pumping out bootleg video games. LOL!

New hardware sounds interesting as well. How old is this report? Lets hope support for this doesn't go the way of the Hyper64. Don't know if they make companies like SNK anymore, companies that stick with their machine through thick and thin and are willing to cater to a niche home market. Lets just hope this new thing kicks ass, I can only dream of a high-res Shodown or KOF...

Interesting that noone is interested in reviving the Hyper. From what I've heard it has 2D capabilities that surpass the MVS, but I guess it isn't as mainstream as the old Neo. Anyone know how worthwhile it would be to release expansions for the old MVS? Expansions similar to the "GIGA POWER" thing, bringing the MVS to new heights? Would high-res and better processing/storage performance add-ons even be possible? They could ship the expansions with their first wave of titles. I mean, the MVS still gives titles released today a run for their money, and EVERYONE has one (when I say everyone, I mean arcades all over the world are running them today). So it would make sense that releasing a simple add-on to bring the MVS to tomorrow's standard might be the way to go.
 

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Originally posted by Mike:
Ensuring that KOF never competes in splitting the Street Fighter revenue opportunity again (as is being threatened by the Korean release) is a price worth paying for Capcom. Capcom have even announced the start of Capcom Vs. SNK 3, seeming to jump the gun as SNK faulted.


Can you Please provide me a link to Capcom's website that officially states that Capcom announced the start of Capcom vs. Snk 3?

Also, do you know for what system it will be released?
 

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Capcom and their damn "expansion sequels", Cap VS SNK 3 could be released tomorrow with 2 new character with Cap VS SNK 4 released next week with new bosses for all we know. Lets hope they listen to their fans and actually put some effort into their next one. Unless you enjoy seeing a 10 year old sprite walking around in 2 frames across a 3D background. <img src="graemlins/tickled.gif" border="0" alt="[Tickled]" />
 

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Originally posted by FeelGood:
<strong>Capcom and their damn "expansion sequels", Cap VS SNK 3 could be released tomorrow with 2 new character with Cap VS SNK 4 released next week with new bosses for all we know. Lets hope they listen to their fans and actually put some effort into their next one. Unless you enjoy seeing a 10 year old sprite walking around in 2 frames across a 3D background. <img src="graemlins/tickled.gif" border="0" alt="[Tickled]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

I HIGHLY agree with you. Capcom seems like they don't give a shit about their fans. They don't even put an effort on games. Bunch of LAZY assholes. I'm tired of there CRAP games. That is why Snk is better, IMO.
At least Snk payed attention to their fans.
 

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2 things:

1.) Mike, what's the source on that report, and

2.) These are all still rumors, nothing more.
 
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It has been reported that BreezaSoft and their first original game Crystal Kings and Eolith will have their games distributed in the US and Europe, and could become the successors, heirs to the SNK throne now left vacant.
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Crystal Kings was the first game to be put out for the crystal system which is now available (who knows to what extent). I dislike NGF as much as the next person, but i checked the link to their site when someone posted that they had a comparison of the MVS hardware vs. the crystal vs. some other asian arcade board. At the time of their review Crystal kings was the only available game. Not sure if the soccer game has come out yet or not.
Who knows what this could actually mean (possibly SNK games in higher-res 2D glory?) but would be neat to find out more.
As for capcom vs. SNK 3, I hadn't heard anything about this but knowing capcom and the sucess of the 2nd one (more so than the 1st) I wouldn't doubt even for a second that they are alreayd planning it.

[ February 05, 2002: Message edited by: madgamer2000 ]</p>
 

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Ex_Andy

2 things:

1) Even if I told you the source, all you would add is that "it's a rumor"

2) These are rumors, but thanks for trying to remind us all once again though <img src="graemlins/eye.gif" border="0" alt="[Eye]" /> <img src="graemlins/eye.gif" border="0" alt="[Eye]" />
 

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EX_Andy

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Originally posted by Mike:
<strong>2 things:

1) Even if I told you the source, all you would add is that "it's a rumor"

2) These are rumors, but thanks for trying to remind us all once again though <img src="graemlins/eye.gif" border="0" alt="[Eye]" /> <img src="graemlins/eye.gif" border="0" alt="[Eye]" />

For everyone else:

<a href="http://www.casbox.com/Stinger/Sting24.html" target="_blank">http://www.casbox.com/Stinger/Sting24.html</a></strong><hr></blockquote>

As I thought. Thanks for the clarification, though.
 

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is this old news?
i thought all the old properties were bought up
by kawasaki and is now residing at the playmore
company under the SNK NEOGEO startup.

god dam flood control. <img src="graemlins/veryangry.gif" border="0" alt="[Very Angry]" /> <img src="graemlins/veryangry.gif" border="0" alt="[Very Angry]" />
 

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Ghostlop is STILL being planned out? God, I loved that game about 5 years ago when I first saw it at work. Am glad it will be coming out hopefully, its one I wanted to add to my collection along with WH2 Perfect. (just for Sirius Rising, :)

And yes, piracy was ALWAYS a big problem. Redone cartridges were always sticky as hell. The funniest incident I remember personally was a bootleg single slot MVS board which came in. Had to take THE best way to track it, which is a neat little secret, but manufacturers of chips put their logos and ID runs on the chips. The boot chips were from a famous American chip company, based in Texas. Turns out that the customer claimed the chip design was to run oil rigs or something wierd like that.

And for you virus writers, be warned that the idiot who wrote the Melissa virus got booby trapped because he used Window products for his progranmming, which faithfully embedded all his personal info within the virus document. Which is why I try and avoid microsoft products like the plague...
 
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