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gargoyle7 · Jun 13, 2002

<a href="http://www.neogeousa.com/ms4/ms4.html" target="_blank">http://www.neogeousa.com/ms4/ms4.html</a>

Looks like Playmore has found a way to fit more megs in a cart <img src="graemlins/drool.gif" border="0" alt="[Drool]" />

Too bad about the encryption though.....

Nice work Ray!

Lee (garg7)
<a href="http://www.neogeotemple.com" target="_blank">http://www.neogeotemple.com</a>

[ June 13, 2002: Message edited by: gargoyle7 ]

NeoLord · Jun 13, 2002

Holy crap! WTG, Playmore! It sounds like Playmore is preparing for SNK vs Capcom MVS.

Fran · Jun 13, 2002

Originally posted by gargoyle7:

Looks like Playmore has found a way to fit more megs in a cart <img src="graemlins/drool.gif" border="0" alt="[Drool]" />

<hr></blockquote>

yeah

about time

they have should done that two years ago

when snk was still making games

but still good news i suppose

Tiptonium · Jun 13, 2002

Wow, that's a great article.

Fran · Jun 13, 2002

Originally posted by Tiptonium:
Wow, that's a great article. <hr></blockquote>

hey

i gotta jap fatal fury 3 here

come on lad,make me an offer i cant refuse

and this little young gem's all yours to rape

[ June 13, 2002: Message edited by: Fran ]

Daisuke Jigen · Jun 13, 2002

It's not protected? No wonder boots showed up so quickly. This is the MVS cart, right?

EDIT- Dag, its the home cart. My bad.

[ June 13, 2002: Message edited by: Daisuke Jigen ]

xonox · Jun 13, 2002

More megs perhaps but not on the gfx board. The gfx board is still the same and it's already maxed out in ms3, kof2001, motw and probably quite a few other games.

Since they made a new program board, perhaps we could hope for a bigger gfx board...

And, what does the mask rom do? Is it used with the bankswitching stuff ?

BRANDI · Jun 14, 2002

Thanks to you for the link and to Ray for the info...
Really interesting...

kernow · Jun 14, 2002

very interesting article.

I think its the homecart version

Kyo 2000 · Jun 14, 2002

That's pretty cool really. You learn something every day.

-Actually, I thought we all knew that most of the high meg counts are due to music?

-Thanks for flat out TELLING the bootleggers they can easily go to work on MS4, that's nice of them to do that. grrr

Still a cool read though...

TheBigBB · Jun 14, 2002

This is why they didn't put the meg count on the package; cause it would make it sound like a lesser game.

kernow · Jun 14, 2002

or maybe they thought "hey this whole meg count thing sucks, lets concentrate on the actual game instead"

Caris Nautilus · Jun 14, 2002

Originally posted by Fran:


yeah

about time

they have should done that two years ago

when snk was still making games

but still good news i suppose<hr></blockquote>

your a whore, d'ya know ?

[ June 14, 2002: Message edited by: Drift King EX ]

Hide · Jun 14, 2002

Originally posted by kernow:
or maybe they thought "hey this whole meg count thing sucks, lets concentrate on the actual game instead"<hr></blockquote>

EXACTLY!

TheBigBB · Jun 14, 2002

Well the meg count thing became sort of a tradition I think, personally I don't give a fuck about it being posted on the insert. If they were even considering it, I'm sure the lower meg count is what turned them of to it in the end.

Fran · Jun 14, 2002

Originally posted by Drift King EX:


your a whore, d'ya know ?

[ June 14, 2002: Message edited by: Drift King EX ]<hr></blockquote>

oh !

well,i see you're still bitter,my friend

and i see you're still being hostile?

lighten up

why the long face,eh?

yeah yeah i know

the dc and the saturn are dead and buried,
and you're a SAD sega FANBOY now

on top of that,
we're still getting new neo games after 12 years

must be hard for you

must be difficult to swallow that

but i understand your feelings

you will always have my moral support,caris

and yes,i'm a whore

always have been

so sing me something new

Tarma · Jun 14, 2002

Very interesting! Many thanks for that Ray, and also thanks to Lee for bringing the article to our attention

If they used the same technology on KoF 2001, that would mean that it has a meg count around the same as Last Blade 2 then... <img src="graemlins/spock.gif" border="0" alt="[Spock]" />

kernow · Jun 14, 2002

does the future hold games with smaller meg counts?

Caris Nautilus · Jun 14, 2002

the dc and the saturn are dead and buried<hr></blockquote>

last time I checked, dreamcast games are still being released, and sega is making more games than ever on multiple systems, i'm a sega player, not a saturn or dreamcast player.

also last time i checked snk is dead, and their system is left to dipshit companies who cant even get the artwork styles right in games...

yea you still get games after 12 years, but when its 2-3 games a year, and 2 of those games are so so to lame, who really cares? so whats the story, morning glory? ding dong the aes is dead.

Tiptonium · Jun 14, 2002

Originally posted by Fran:


hey

i gotta jap fatal fury 3 here

come on lad,make me an offer i cant refuse

and this little young gem's all yours to rape

<hr></blockquote>

Bwaahahaha... have you put a price on it's head?

JHendrix · Jun 14, 2002

Originally posted by Daisuke Jigen:
It's not protected? No wonder boots showed up so quickly. This is the MVS cart, right?

EDIT- Dag, its the home cart. My bad.

[ June 13, 2002: Message edited by: Daisuke Jigen ]<hr></blockquote>

Dude, where did you hear that bootlegs were showing up already? I haven't heard a thing about that at all, in fact it was kind of a pleasant surprize.

BTW, any word on ROTD Meg count? Does it use the same technique as MS4? Does this mean that and all other games to be released now are going to be unprotected?

Peace

JHendrix

Makismo · Jun 14, 2002

Does this mean that Playmore can make better use of the meg counts? Metal Slug 3 is 708 megs using the old method and Metal Slug 4 using the new method is 564. If Metal Slug 4 was using the old method then would it be 800+ megs? It would be fun (but almost pointless) to see how big all the other Neo Geo games would be if they had used this new method. 24 megabit Magician Lord anyone? <img src="graemlins/spock.gif" border="0" alt="[Spock]" />

Kyo 2000 · Jun 14, 2002

Basically, I'll break this down for you...

Little of that meg count related to gameplay, it was always largely sound files.

They're now making better use of that space.

Now, they can theoretically fit more "game" into their games.

Remember, towards the end of the N64 days, Resident Evil 2 was fit quite nicely onto a cartridge? Now think about what that kind of space could do for a 2D fighter.

Fran · Jun 14, 2002

Originally posted by Makismo:
If Metal Slug 4 was using the old method then would it be 800+ megs? <hr></blockquote>

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

because its not full of details and extra stuff like 3

and nooooooooo

kof 2001 isnt 892 megs

Fran · Jun 14, 2002

Originally posted by Drift King EX:


last time I checked, dreamcast games are still being released, and sega is making more games than ever on multiple systems, i'm a sega player, not a saturn or dreamcast player.

also last time i checked snk is dead, and their system is left to dipshit companies who cant even get the artwork styles right in games...

yea you still get games after 12 years, but when its 2-3 games a year, and 2 of those games are so so to lame, who really cares? so whats the story, morning glory? ding dong the aes is dead.<hr></blockquote>

theres some truth in what you say

and look,fair is fair

i miss snk

remember caris

i was the real original SNK fanboy

ask your friend BIG BEAR

sengoku 2001 wasnt tops
kof 2001 was good but not tops

and slug 4,aint seen it
but been told its just good / average

you know

i like sega,
i like the saturn and i like the dc

what i said in my original post was something like

"well if they can produce carts able to contain more stuff / data,thats good news"

and you called me a "whore"

....

hmmm,okay

you know

i am REALLY REALLY REALLY looking forward to snk vs capcom

and i dont want it to have shitty bgs and music cos like 2001 cos neo carts cant get any bigger

thats all

whats the story morning glory

yeah,lovely

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