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Adol
10-10-2000, 11:22 AM
Well,he proposed me to be one of the "elite"guys who will have the honor to buy him Kof 2000 US NGF Crappy stuff for..$1500!

here is our emails,beginning when i answered i prefer to buy the original one:

In a message dated 10/10/00 1:54:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
adol@club-internet.fr writes:

> no thanks..i prefer to buy the official one for $300

This is THE OFFICIAL NGF English version.
There is no other Official English version.

Look at how much we are getting.
We have sold over 20 units, and hopefully
now we will find a NEW "NGF customer."

Reserve is set at $1500.00

Then,i answered:

OFFICIAL and NGF in the same sentence means nothing..NGF=HOME MADE..you
know that

> Look at how much we are getting.
> We have sold over 20 units, and hopefully
> now we will find a NEW "NGF customer."

i don't think you just sold even 1 Kof 2000 for $1500
tell me names,emails of these 20 guys
--
Bye,
adol@club-internet.fr

then,he replied:

We never talk about who we sell to unless the people come forward themselves.
I supposed we never sold any PI2, Ganryu, or Strikers carts for $1400.
I suppose we never sold any Super Dodgeball carts for $850.
I suppose we never sold Pleasure Goal for $1000.
I supposed we never sold The Irritating Maze carts for $2200 and $1600.

We sell to many people.
Just because you can't sell BIG TYME items doesn't mean NGF can't.
We are the ONLY place the REAL collectors go.

PI2, Ganryu, or Strikers carts we sold one each to Shawn - $1200 each.
He got the discount because he ordered ALL 3 carts at once. Actually he
ordered 7 games at once in that deal.

We do it.
Don't be mad because you can't.


what do you think? http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Gambit
10-10-2000, 12:37 PM
Yeah he is still an asshole.

Shawn
10-10-2000, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by Adol:
PI2, Ganryu, or Strikers carts we sold one each to Shawn - $1200 each. He got the discount because he ordered ALL 3 carts at once. Actually he ordered 7 games at once in that deal.

The deal was for 8, not 7. He is correct about the fact that I was sent seven of the eight. Later that week I received the 8th cart. Or perhaps he’s referring to 7 of the 8 carts that were functional, minus the Strikers 45.

Adol
10-10-2000, 12:45 PM
here is just his email answer:

>
> i do,and better than you
> remember i got diggerman before you
> remember i got Kizuna encounter US before you
> remember i got Double Dragon US before you
> remember i got Ultimate 11 US before you
>
> and so on...
>
> --
> Bye,
> adol@club-internet.fr


You're just a jealous fool.
You all follow in our footsteps,

Shawn is very happy,
He has 32 NGF carts, only Strikers had a little problem.
We will fix it when he sends it back, then shawn wants more NGF items.

NGF is the NeoGeo Future.

Too bad you are too poor to buy games from us.


Shawn,are you "happy" to be screwed?

chimpmeister
10-10-2000, 01:01 PM
I think that only a fool to the extreme would buy a fake, cheapass, home-made, poorly converted, sloppily soldered, "NGF" "official" "home cart". Look at the auction for their clown-version of KOF 2000 on eBay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=464230474

What a joke! Look at how they've written up the auction, its completely obnoxious and condescending to everyone . . . who here wants to be a stupid-sounding "big tymer"? What an idiotic phrase!

What's up with all the stupid "FACT" phrases, when in actuality all the "FACTs" are BULLSHIT?

Here you go:

"FACT: Nobody else delivers like NGF"

REALITY: Nobody rips people off for Neo products like NGF.

"FACT: No other source has the selection of Neo items NGF does"

REALITY: No other source promises products, then either fails to deliver them at all (see Keith's Ultimatum to NGF), delivers substandard, crappy quality carts (damaged inserts, cracked inner shells, torn outer cases, damaged manuals, etc.), or performs sloppy, unreliable conversions on Neo Geo carts (see the Strikers 1945 Plus cart PCB pics, the one they sold to Shawn that was DOA when he got it).

"FACT: NOBODY else can deliver this cart to you now. NOBODY"

REALITY: The REAL KOF 2000 cart will be released on December 21, 2000 for $320 or less by National Console Support (www.ncsx.com). We can all wait for it, rather than buying a shitty "NGF" conversion.

"FACT: NOBODY possesses the skill to duplicate this cart.. PERIOD"

REALITY: Chris, your conversion skills are pathetic, since your Strikers 1945 Plus conversion that you sent to Shawn was a worthless piece of shit that didn't even work! Plenty of people possess MUCH GREATER skill at converting than you, apparently.

"FACT: You will be playing KOF2000 at HOME months before the *possible* home release, as all NGF BIGTYMERS have"

REALITY: I and 99.9% of the Neo gamers out there can certainly wait, we don't need to pay a fortune for your crap conversions, and the last thing I'd EVER want to be called is a dumbass "NGF BIGTYMER"!!

"FACT: NGF collectors are universally admired as the cream of the crop of the neo collecting world"

REALITY: NGF carts sell for LESS than regular, official SNK products, over and over on eBay. They're not "admired" except by you guys and a few other gullible individuals. I would never taint my collection with a fake "NGF" cart, it would be a SIN!

"FACT: NGF carts are displayed with pride at all the fan sites, and have proven to increase in value over time."

REALITY: Displayed by you and Dion, and maybe a VERY FEW others. As for increasing in value, see my previous comment, they don't.

"FACT: Own NGF KOF2000 AES cart and never feel inadequate in your neo collecting again!"

REALITY: Own the "NGF KOF2000 AES cart" and curse yourself forever for wasting your money on a cheapass, fake product that probably won't work for even one year (due to sloppy conversion techniques).

"FACT: NGF has ALL the rarest AES carts in stock. Finding common US (and especially japanese) AES carts is easy, but when you are playing with the BIGTYMERS, you need the best.... "

REALITY: There's that dumbass "BIGTYMER" word again, how embarassing. Yeah, you can make all the fake carts you want, but to a true collector and gamer, they're WORTHLESS.

"When your ready to join the ranks of the BIGTYMERS, NeoGeoFreak will be there.... We always have, and always will, thanks to our fans."

TRANSLATION: When you're ready to throw your money away on bullshit, crappy conversions, NGF will be there to rip you off, we always have, and always will, thanks to all the suckers in the world.

Etc. etc. blah blah blah.

And most insulting and idiotic of all, where Chris says: "If bidding exceeds $2000 I'll consider letting the newly crowned BIGTYMER make me an offer on the mat. A chance to OWN the NGW mat!"

Wow Chris, you must think the bidders for this lame, half-assed KOF conversion are COMPLETE IDIOTS!!! WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT YOUR DUMBASS NGW MAT?!?!?! What a RETARD you are, thinking that someone would BUY your stupid mat, "if bidding exceeds $2000"!!!

Does anyone else see how absolutely ridiculous this is?

All I can say is, spread the word about "NGF's" shoddy business practices, poor products, crappy quality control, and outright thefts, and maybe we can prevent future suckers from wasting their money on these cheesy products! http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif

lump505
10-10-2000, 03:13 PM
NGF is so fuckin pathetic!!!


I also love how they have it as a private auction. There are 2 reasons why they do it. 1. So they can jack up the price will all these bogus accounts.
2. So people like us who know the real truth about the No Good Fucks at NGF don't email the bidders and tell the what kind of piece of shit cart they are buying.

If they ever made a public auction everyone would retract their bid because they would be notified of NGF's bullshit business practices.

Also that manual they made is probably so damn cheasy it falls apart when you open it.


I really feel sorry for the idiots who buy that cart. They will regret for their rest of their life spending so much money on a worthless piece of shit.

Adol
10-10-2000, 03:25 PM
> i sell you my metal slug 1, for $100000
>
> you can't buy it? oh yeah,you're surely too poor for buying the ELITE
> stuff
> you're a lamer,then
>
>
> --
> Bye,
> adol@club-internet.fr
>


It just goes to show how stupid you Frenchies must be.
First off, if "Dion" wanted to buy a Metal Slug, "Dion" would maybe
pay "market value" - not your stupid as price.

And secondly, being NGF, we get contacted daily from people selling
us their games. I only pay $400 for a Metal Slug, and I sell it for $800.

But since you're so stupid, you will never understand the concept of
enterprise.

Go ahead and copy this for all the "NGF" lovers to read.
We love how all you losers keep talking about us and posting our pictures, yet
we don't even bother with you people.

Do we talk or care about you losers? No.
But you losers keep talking about us.

It sounds like NGF has won.

Heres a new saying:

"Hey ladies, hey fellas...you know you're doing well cause THEY jealous."


what can i say?ahahah

lump505
10-10-2000, 03:31 PM
If Dion is so into market value how come he charges so much for his crappy games. Also if he has so many customers how come he has so much in stock? Hm.......interesting.


He has so many rare carts. You would think with all of his "NGF big tymers" buying his shit he would have nothing left for sale but he always has every single game for sale.

DIY
10-10-2000, 04:52 PM
Frenchies, thats just bad taste!

Adol
10-10-2000, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by DIY:
Frenchies, thats just bad taste!

yeah,you can notice his racist comments
for your pleasure,his last email:

> kof 2000 "homemadE/bootleg crap copy" hasn't any "market
> value"too,because there is no market for it

Really? So far it is at $1000 - in less than 24 hours.
It seems MANY people want this game, we have
gotten many more emails from "NEW" Neo fans
that are now discovering us at NGF.

We are already making deals for people to buy Shock Troopers,Super Dodgeball, and other unreleased games.
We love it.
eBay is basically ADVERTISING.
We sell some games, but make new customers
that turn around and buy all the unreleased games.That's how we met all these new people.

WE LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!

Why didn't you come to Japan.....Adol? Afraid to meet?


what do you think of this asshole? http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif

HPMAN
10-10-2000, 06:58 PM
Hehe, frenchies Rul3Z http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/tongue.gif

T'as bien raison Adol, on va pas acheter des fausses version us à prix d'or http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/wink.gif

Rien ne vaut la version jap !!!

Alors, qu'en dites-vous les autres petits gars du forum ??? http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/tongue.gif

JRock917
10-10-2000, 06:59 PM
Are there really that many suckers out there? I mean, that "auction" NGF has for KOF 2000 already has 18 bids- are people just not fortunate enough to find a site like this where they can find out the BAD as well as the good, or are they just too gullable and listen to all the BS? I am amazed at how unprofessional these emails are that Dion sent you Adol; its like if you have a shred of common sense then you are some sort of bad guy. When he emailed me, he talked this crap about not being "man enough" to post all the information about the price gouge NGF is doing on KOF 2000, the part about them having it before someone else- what is all that about? I have never in my life seen someone so immature, geesh.

Viewpoint
10-10-2000, 09:29 PM
*snort*

BonusKun

Gambit
10-10-2000, 09:49 PM
Neo Geo Freak is the the Neo Geo future http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif
God that line makes me laugh everytime I see it.

chimpmeister
10-10-2000, 10:41 PM
I like the version used by Scott Wozniak (he used to post on DHP a lot, and the DL board . . . guess he dropped out of the scene http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/frown.gif ):

NGF = No Good Fucks http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/tongue.gif http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/tongue.gif

Gambit
10-10-2000, 10:44 PM
Haha, how bout NGF = Nappy Gay Fuckers

gokusama26
10-11-2000, 01:55 AM
Just curious, but why don't you guys ever report his auctions? They can be taken down for copyright infringement.

vincewy
10-11-2000, 02:02 AM
Instead of name calling, let's find solutions. For Adol, if Dion is irritating you, can you block his emails? This will save you a lot of hassles. One thing that doesn't make sense is, why would he convert the game now rather than waiting til Dec with original Jp carts and simply creat new inserts and sticker for it?

I won't say this in English, but "Je aussi deteste NGF. Jamais je n'acheter les jeus/cartouches avec le mot NGF a moin que je sois drogue"

Dreamh2o
10-11-2000, 03:49 AM
I already told you guys... there are not 18 people bidding on that KOF2000, its two or three. How do I know??? Iv bid on it more than 10 times myself... Im having funn running it up because I know what the reserve is and I can not be stuck with having to pay for it.

Adol
10-11-2000, 04:45 AM
Originally posted by HPMAN:
Hehe, frenchies Rul3Z http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/tongue.gif

T'as bien raison Adol, on va pas acheter des fausses version us à prix d'or http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/wink.gif

Rien ne vaut la version jap !!!

Alors, qu'en dites-vous les autres petits gars du forum ??? http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/tongue.gif

ahah,tu parles francais,ca fait plaisir! http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif
mais tu es francais,ou tu es francophone ( suisse,belgique,quebec,afrique..)? http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Adol
10-11-2000, 04:48 AM
Originally posted by vincewy:
Instead of name calling, let's find solutions. For Adol, if Dion is irritating you, can you block his emails? This will save you a lot of hassles. One thing that doesn't make sense is, why would he convert the game now rather than waiting til Dec with original Jp carts and simply creat new inserts and sticker for it?

I won't say this in English, but "Je aussi deteste NGF. Jamais je n'acheter les jeus/cartouches avec le mot NGF a moin que je sois drogue"

chimpmeister
10-11-2000, 01:45 PM
Hey DreamH2o, I think its really stupid of you to bid on Dion's KOF 2000 cart. All you do is boost Dion and Chris' dumbass attitude by bidding on that cart, which is really stupid. You may think its harmless, or funny, but I can guarantee you that Dion and Chris will come out and say "see, everyone wants NGF carts, look at what our KOF 2000 AES cart sold for". You are doing a disservice to the Neo community by bidding on this cart, even in fun. Bad idea, dude. http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/frown.gif http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/frown.gif http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/frown.gif

Big Bruno
10-11-2000, 02:12 PM
I imagine the reason why they are selling the kof now is because they were gambling on it not being released, or maybe they found a deal on KOF 2000 mvs carts. So In a attempt to recoop thier losses they are selling them early before the release date so they do not loss as much money. I do not think they have the connection with aruze as they once did with SNK so they are kinda of at a loss on releases. Just my oppinion.

I say if someone wants to buy that cart to go ahead, however while someone running a arcade can justify spending alot of money on a early release becuase they will make money on it. Nobody is going to make money on a KOF homecart. As soon as the official cart is release the value will go down if it is even worth $1500 in the first place. The manual does not look to complete either judging from the side view of it. Especial with the amount of characters in KOF 2000 it should be at least 20-30 pages. oh well .

[This message has been edited by Big Bruno (edited October 11, 2000).]

HPMAN
10-11-2000, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by Adol:
ahah,tu parles francais,ca fait plaisir! http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif
mais tu es francais,ou tu es francophone ( suisse,belgique,quebec,afrique..)? http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif



Ouais, j'suis du pur français... http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Dreamh2o
10-11-2000, 02:51 PM
I dont veiw it as a bad, all I am doing is pointing out how utterly unreasonable the reserve is, and the fact that it wount be met. It keeps the ignorant new-neo-collectors from getting interested in NGF... they probably email all the bidders... if the price is 100's they arent ging to get any contacts now are they??? http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif

lump505
10-11-2000, 03:03 PM
I say make a bogus account. Win the auction then leave neg. feedback saying he sells bootleg carts and is an asshole.

[This message has been edited by lump505 (edited October 11, 2000).]

smurphy570
10-11-2000, 03:27 PM
http://www.ncsx.com/ncs100900/ncs1009.htm
check this link from ncsx..basically in my mine calling all beo geo freak stuff junk..."their is only one offical relist for kof2000 the japanese version." Personally agree with them

smurphy570
10-11-2000, 03:32 PM
im sorry i mis read them only offical version is mvs..still i think they must know this is a joke

JMKurtz
10-11-2000, 04:01 PM
"Private" auctions are like a double-edge sword. NGF will only get the e-mail address of the highest bidder IF the auction meets the reserve price. They won't get a list of secondary bidders (reserve met or not).

At least that is how I understand the rules. I could be wrong.

Jeff


Originally posted by Dreamh2o:
I dont veiw it as a bad, all I am doing is pointing out how utterly unreasonable the reserve is, and the fact that it wount be met. It keeps the ignorant new-neo-collectors from getting interested in NGF... they probably email all the bidders... if the price is 100's they arent ging to get any contacts now are they??? http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif

JMKurtz
10-11-2000, 04:42 PM
How much do you want to bet that the Kof2K cart is empty.

I know you guys (NGF) read these postings -- how about a couple pics/scans of the actual Kof2K roms on the home cart boards?

Jeff

chimpmeister
10-11-2000, 04:58 PM
I doubt they'd post those scans, Jeff. If they did, you'd see the sloppy soldering work and how cheesy the boards look . . . that is, if they exist at all!

What amazes me is how completely offensive the entire auction is . . . the most disgusting, ridiculous crap I've ever seen on eBay (BIG TYMERS, etc.). What a joke. I can't believe anyone would buy all that "BIG TYMER" crap, its totally condescending. And DreamH2o bidding it up for no reason doesn't help. Best thing is to leave it alone, and let whatever suckers bid on it who may. Then when December 21 rolls around and NCS has plenty of the REAL KOF 2K carts, the person who bought the fake "NGF" version will wonder why they paid such a ridiculous amount of money for a fake, worthless cart, when they could have owned 3, 4, 5 (or whatever) of the REAL carts instead!!!

Gambit
10-11-2000, 05:33 PM
They are getting away with telling people it is the OFFICIAL Neo Geo Freak game. But I could crap and that would be official Gambit. Anything can be official, but not official SNK/Aruze and that is what people want is the real thing.

BryLmoo
10-11-2000, 06:11 PM
Gambit, that is true. I don't want ngf carts, I want SNK http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/mad.gif

JRock917
10-11-2000, 06:30 PM
where are these big tymers with the great valuable NGF cart collections anyway? I sure as hell dont see them on these forums! Sounds like they may have seen Elvis too.

Gambit
10-11-2000, 07:11 PM
They are all in Dion and Chris's little head dancing around singing we are the BIGTYMERS !!!! What the hell is that all about??? Darn I'm not a bigtymer I feel like crap now http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/frown.gif

Dreamh2o
10-11-2000, 07:14 PM
Lump has the right Idea!

Gambit
10-11-2000, 07:17 PM
Can't they take you to court if you don't buy it though??? Because they aren't false advertising even though its fake shit, they say its NGF official which is true.

Dreamh2o
10-11-2000, 07:21 PM
A) if somone with half a brain made the fake account there wouldnt be any recoase for NGF.
B) in a court of law they would either have to get you to admit you did it, ask you to plea bargin, or proove it. As far as illegal activities online are concerned, unless they have a photo of you, can proove it without a doubt other than your admitting or plea barganing, it would be thrown out (after the inconveniance of going to court.... witch isnt worth the cost of the game to begin with)

If you register as a GERMAN, ebay by law has to uphold German law and not give out contact information, so making a fake account stating your from germany, Dion and NGF would have no way to find you, and ebay would merely close the account once reported. If the feedback was not crude, and had to do with the transaction (doesnt matter if its true or fales) ebay wount remove it, as long as the email address does not bounce.

It could be done... am I going to do it? NO. but its fun to think about.

Gambit
10-11-2000, 07:23 PM
Do it and find out http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif
How did you find out about the Germany law???

Dreamh2o
10-11-2000, 07:29 PM
I tried to pull contact data on a German bidder...They email you telling you that its not allowed to give you information from germans. Also... if a person UNDER 18 were to register and bid, even if they knew where you were... the bid wouldnt be binding and unless your local state has laws saying parents have to pay for thir childrens credit actions... there would be nothing Dion or NGF could do.
Mind you I am not encouraging anyone to commit any crimes, adult or minor.

Neo Bomber Man
10-11-2000, 07:59 PM
Couldn't someone just post a 1¢ auction for KoF 2000 with nothing more than a link to NCS's news update about its release & a brief explanation? I've been thinking of doing that myself.

Payer 1500$ pour KoF 2000 est absolument fou. Espérons qu'ils auront la scoumoune avec ce jeu.

JRock917
10-11-2000, 08:17 PM
its not a bad idea; NCS deserves the support they get from the neo community for helping propagate it.

Gambit
10-11-2000, 08:36 PM
If you notice on ncsx.com today they posted something on the NGF cart thats up for sale on ebay. Go check it out guys.

chimpmeister
10-11-2000, 11:09 PM
Well, someone did post a fake auction with a hilarious parody of the fakeass "NGF" auction, here it is:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=465965452

Check it out! Unfortunately, since the auction is ended, it won't show up in a search of active items . . . http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Dreamh2o
10-11-2000, 11:28 PM
AHAH He relisted it, I bid on it :L

Neo Bomber Man
10-11-2000, 11:32 PM
Good grief! What a description! Well that's Illicious for you. Shame it ended so soon. I think I may as well do it myself, though shorter, leave it up and see what happens.

Gambit
10-11-2000, 11:35 PM
Hell yeah that is a damn good auction. I would bid on that before I would bid on Dion's. Hope people take this advice.

chimpmeister
10-12-2000, 12:10 AM
He did relist it and DreamH2o bid on it!:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=466009057

Nice to see the TRUTH for a change on an eBay auction! http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Big Bruno
10-12-2000, 11:29 AM
well it looks like the auction was pulled. It appears that it was cancled by ebay. some body or a group of people must have complained about the auction.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=464230474