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yuckydog
10-02-2000, 11:14 PM
If you can hold off, please try to wait for a converter instead of sacrificing home carts to do conversions. That, in turn, only causes prices to go up on games that should be pretty readily available.

Just an observation,
James

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Dreamh2o
10-02-2000, 11:25 PM
I want home cart prices to go up, that is why I collect them. This is why antiques are so popular, the less, the more valuable. I think its very awesome that you can mak more rare or unusual items from common items, while being an aid to helping the carts become uncommon http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/wink.gif twisted thinking I know... but I understand it http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif

yuckydog
10-03-2000, 12:12 AM
Dammit, you also make the games I'm bidding on go up in price. http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif Sheesh! How about we agree to not outbid each other on different items beforehand? (i.e. I agree not to bid on a certain game if you don't bid on a certain game for me?)

Gambit
10-03-2000, 01:35 AM
I think Sac carting is a shame. It ruins a completely good game. Its like abortion http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif

HPMAN
10-03-2000, 04:25 AM
It's interesting to see people collect neo carts only to wait for prices going up...

I think that's a shame... These people should leave the carts to people who enjoy the GAME, not the PRICE...

I personally purchase carts to PLAY them, I don't care if prices goes up or down (well, down is good for me, I can by more carts http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/wink.gif)

Hopefully, you can still manage to get carts for good prices. I got an under $50 Garou Densetsu Special NEW on the way http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Mentor
10-03-2000, 06:38 AM
Saying that sack carts push up the price of carts is a value rather than a factual judgement. Atleast 50% of conversions would have been done of carts from ss2 and before's time period. These have hardly risen. Infact they are still dirt cheap. The only rise being in the trend for "euro" insert versions. Heck on 90% of the conversions I've done the MVS cart cost more than the sack cart. The original Fatal fury is hardly in great demand or price ^_^ Yet it will suffise for some conversions.. *which is why I believe someones puzzle de pon & r's price of $600+ is the biggest piece of BS out, but if some1's sucker enough to pay that price good luck to the seller I say..*

Concieveablely in the case of later carts (strikers, ganryu ect) that require a protected cart (name kof 99) it could have caused the trend of a rise in price, but I doubt there were that many conversions. A 100? maybe (These things are hardly sold cheaper, eh?), have to ask someone in the know on this.. Still kof 99 has dropped in price again now, so...
*shrugs* anyway thats my 2 cents..

Mentor...

nick_th_fury
10-03-2000, 11:24 AM
Maybe you should do us all a favor and find another hobby then. Antiques maybe? The rest of us deal with the high prices, but sure dont need folks working to raise them.
-nick_th_fury
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I want home cart prices to go up, that is why I collect them.

Dreamh2o
10-03-2000, 11:30 AM
I for one would rather have two collectable items rather than just one, and since sac-ing is really making another rare cart, its not like throwing them in a fire place. Abortion? Please. Sac-ng is more like cutting off the half of a twin connected at the hip and sharing one heart, so that the other can live, but really lets not forget, these are HARDWARE, not life! This is as good as Bush VS Gore... either you kill babies before they are born, or you kill people once they are convicted... I feel everyone should have a right to be born, sac carts, commit a major crime and get a leathal injection for their actions, rather than being killed in utero... Just my opinion.. I could be wrong.

[This message has been edited by Dreamh2o (edited October 03, 2000).]

Force
10-03-2000, 12:02 PM
DreamH2O: The problem your above statement is that is made (or converted) carts aren't really rare at all. You can keep making them and making them until the official carts you can use as sacs run out, which are the real rarities. Every time a Kof95 or FF3 cart gets sacced, that's one less for someone else to get. If you really cared about the neo geo, you would want to preserve all the neo carts. Why don't you buy an MVS with those games? It would be cheaper and would preserve carts for future fans. And anyone who collects something with the intent of making money isn't really a collector, but a speculator. Maybe you should dump neo carts and "collect" stocks.

Matt Gilbert

Master Terry Bogard
10-03-2000, 12:10 PM
I collect Neo Geo and all other games mostly because I want and like to play them, not for money. I know some people collect Neo's/convert them for sake of $. I understand it. That doesn't mean that I have to follow that suit.

yuckydog
10-03-2000, 12:29 PM
Man, even if you bought an expensive MVS converter for $500-700, it would still be cheaper than converting all the carts you want to the home system. The only problem being that the newer games won't work but !Arcade! is working on that and I hope he's successful because I, for one, will not buy converted carts just to "complete" my collection. Even if you're only out to make money, there's got to be some altruism inside you....

James

Big Bruno
10-03-2000, 12:30 PM
Well I never considered Neo carts a collectable and 5-15 years from now I do not see them getting these hugh high prices people are thinking they will get so I simply wait on carts. What I have seen is a trend to TRY to inflate cart prices. I say try becuse they are not selling at these high prices. Sure someone will by 1 or 2 but when they resale them it is usally at a lose. WHen it comes to converted carts it's simply a status thing that I do not buy into. I would not mind owning a couple for $100-200 which is what I fell most of them are worth, but when they start off at this hugh high prices they only place they are going is down. To invest in something like that in hopes you will double your money in 2-5 years is foolish IMO. Video games in general are never good investments in the long run.

If someone wants to hack a cart to make it into a converted cart really it's not that big of a deal to me. They may want to play it on thier home system and put it up on a shelf. But I always sit back while I play the same games on my home system and MVS without the Homemade $700 art work http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif and think about all the money I saved in my neo investments. Which I am sure is more then the profit anyone will make on those converted carts.

Master Terry Bogard
10-03-2000, 12:38 PM
I will probably never get anyof the converted carts. I am not that desperate or hard core collector enough to collect them-it cost too much. For me, it's accept no substitutes.

Billkwando
10-03-2000, 01:04 PM
I guess the reason I trip out about price is because I've done very well for myself in the Neo collecting department, but my success is due to patience, and not money.

I was originally planning NOT to buy Neo games when I got my Neo Geo. I bought my Neo STRICTLY for Samurai Shodown and SS2. The Neo I found happened to come with KOF 94 and Magician Lord, so I lucked out with games I didn't particularly need, but being a big Mai fan, it was still cool.

Well after surfing the internet the first time, I happened upon the erstwhile Big Bruno's Gym where I saw Phil's "Neo Geo Room" This freaked me out. I was like, "Wow I guess you don't have to be rich to get a bunch of Neo games!" (not to make a statement about Phil's finances, it's just what I thought when I saw it) and thus my search began.

I've decided to try my best to list my games and what I paid for them, plus where I got them, so you have an idea of why I'm so harsh about people charging alot.

My Original Purchase (Famous Pawn):
Neo Geo, 2 controllers, KOF 94
$300
Additional no box Magician Lord:
$15

Brand New:
Samurai Shodown 2 $250 (either Gamestuff or SNK?)

From Famous Pawnbrokers (Neo from a different location):
Samurai Showdown $100
Fatal Fury $15
View Point $15
World Heroes $15
(I told the store to either sell them to me or let them collect dust for another 6 months until I returned again. Pawnshops deserve it anyway...)

Steve Hanson(controller builder and friend of wonder):
Crossed Swords $10
Football Frenzy $5
King of Fighters 97 $100 (the week 98 came out)
World Heroes 2 $5
(Steve's battle cry: "Dude, get these off my shelf!")

J&L Video Games (internet)
Fatal Fury Special $65
Puzzled $50
BaseBall Stars 2 $70

From Lamagra:
Galaxy Fight
Last Blade
(I trade RBFF1 and FF3 for them, $70 originally Super Sellers)

Large Package From Kyle:
Art Of Fighting 3 $100 (came early)
King of Fighters 96
King of Fighters 98
Last Resort
Nam 1975
Sengoku
Street Hoop
Alpha Mission 2
ADK (gone now)

$500 total for all of the above (crazy deal!)

From Starland Videogames (local store):
2020 Super Baseball $30
Art Of Fighting $28
Art Of Fighting 2 $70 (worth every penny)
BaseBall Stars Professional $30
Blues Journey $30
Fatal Fury 2 $30
King of The Monsters $30
Ninja Combat $32
Riding Hero $30
Super Spy $35 (why??)

From Kevin Floyd:
League Bowling $20? (between $20 and $30)

From Steven Laisch
King of Fighters 99 $75

From Super Sellers:
Waku Waku 7 $235 (my most expensive used purchase)

I don't think I'm forgetting anything...

So, I dunno, around $2500 spent? (calculator uncerimoniously screwed up on me)

Now, I KNOW everybody can't find deals like this, but my point is, if you look hard enough you CAN find good games cheap.

I simply refused to pay more than I wanted to, and eventually all the games I wanted came to me.

Now as John said, if we simply IGNORE pricy resellers they'll go away, or be forced to sell their stock for what people want to pay, NOT what they say the game is "valued at".

Neo Geo is NOT as hot a commodity as we like to think. Many stores can't move Neo carts to save their lives. Check your local pawnshops and used toy stores. You might be surprised at what you find. Even if you bid with caution you can affect what the prices are on ebay. Take the copy of Ragnard/Shinoken that went for $160 recently, that's "supposed" to be a $300/$400 game, but since people were only willing to pay so much, it was cheap.

Pay what you want, not what you're told. Be patient and all will come to you.

Thanks,
Billkwando
http://grador.radix.net/~kws/trey/utngmlink.gif http://www.undertheneogeomoon.com

Billkwando
10-03-2000, 01:08 PM
Not to mention that soon enough there will be inserts amd manuals available for all the unreleased carts, thanks to our Neo Geo Homebrew folks. Also, !Arcade! might be coming out with MVS boxes, so soon there may be no need to sac a cart for a "complete" package.

Thanks,
Billkwando
http://grador.radix.net/~kws/trey/utngmlink.gif http://www.undertheneogeomoon.com

nick_th_fury
10-03-2000, 02:13 PM
Its funny that speculators grab on to anything that seems to inflate quickly in price. I enjoyed watching them lose their ass on basball card stock years back during the strikes. I knew a few people that lost business & a lot more during that. Sometimes people get screwed for screwing others. Karma I guess. I couldnt care less what any of my carts are worth on resale. They are not for sale, ever. I never buy doubles or xtras to sell. If everyone did that there would be plenty of carts to go around. Theyd also stay at much lower prices. Eventually this fad will pass & the inflated cart prices will drop. A lot of carts like MOTW are hot right now, so I don't blame people for selling them at fair market value which is high right now. MOTW is a fairly rare cart imo. Sac'd converted carts are not rare though. Anything you can have made easily is never rare. No one can just whip up an official SNK MOTW so it has value to collectors & gamers alike. A conversion of ninja masters on the otherhand is only worth the price of the two carts, and the labor. Much much less than the real thing.
-nick_th_fury

Robi15
10-03-2000, 02:34 PM
Let me just put this question in to this depate. Yeah, we sacrifice carts for the conversions. The saccarts we use get more harder to find. They get, let's say, even extreamly rare in near future. Now, my point. Does that mean that the converted carts we do ALLSO gain value? They must be. Or?

Robi15

Big Bruno
10-03-2000, 02:43 PM
Robi, really The only decideding factor is going to be time. But if you look at the history of converted carts you will see that prices fall over time. They have to. Becuase the price of the source material used in making them fall. You are not just talking about using one neo cart as a sac cart, in fact you can use almost any neo cart as a sac cart. With the exception of the newer games of course. it just is a matter of wiring. and in seeing how these carts are wired from the previous forum, do you think the converted carts are going to be worth more, let alone still be working 5 years from now.

Dreamh2o
10-03-2000, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by Force:
DreamH2O: The problem your above statement is that is made (or converted) carts aren't really rare at all. You can keep making them and making them until the official carts you can use as sacs run out, which are the real rarities. Every time a Kof95 or FF3 cart gets sacced, that's one less for someone else to get. If you really cared about the neo geo, you would want to preserve all the neo carts. Why don't you buy an MVS with those games? It would be cheaper and would preserve carts for future fans. And anyone who collects something with the intent of making money isn't really a collector, but a speculator. Maybe you should dump neo carts and "collect" stocks.

Matt Gilbert


Im not converting every cart I get, I intend to have a set of the unreleased carts, with a few like Metal slug that cant be touched by a common player. You got me all wrong, I play these games, they are life itself. I dont see anyone giving away Neo Geo items to other people... Its not a charity, you do what you like with your carts, my goal is to have every american and Jap cart, as well as unreleased titles. Those people who dont get copies of the possible sac carts and hang onto them, are the ones that miss out. The only justification to wasting 100's on fun games to paly, is that one day, you will have an impressive collection that is worth so much to you, that you wouldnt sell it, and that the world recognizes it as such. i dont collect Super Mario Brothers for the NES, because it isnt worth anything, albeit its fun to play, spending anything on it is stupid as it isnt worth anything. I realize you all may not yet understand this, but a few people do (mainly those with the full collection).

Dreamh2o
10-03-2000, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by Big Bruno:
Well I never considered Neo carts a collectable and 5-15 years from now I do not see them getting these hugh high prices people are thinking they will get so I simply wait on carts. What I have seen is a trend to TRY to inflate cart prices. I say try becuse they are not selling at these high prices. Sure someone will by 1 or 2 but when they resale them it is usally at a lose. WHen it comes to converted carts it's simply a status thing that I do not buy into. I would not mind owning a couple for $100-200 which is what I fell most of them are worth, but when they start off at this hugh high prices they only place they are going is down. To invest in something like that in hopes you will double your money in 2-5 years is foolish IMO. Video games in general are never good investments in the long run.

If someone wants to hack a cart to make it into a converted cart really it's not that big of a deal to me. They may want to play it on thier home system and put it up on a shelf. But I always sit back while I play the same games on my home system and MVS without the Homemade $700 art work http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif and think about all the money I saved in my neo investments. Which I am sure is more then the profit anyone will make on those converted carts.


Again, I myself, do not hope to "MAKE" money, I feel that Neo will always be valuable, and that It is like a good book collection. they are an asset of sorts, and I want to be one of the few dozen to have the whole set. MVS carts lack the flare of a good case, insert, and manual.

Dreamh2o
10-03-2000, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by Billkwando:
Not to mention that soon enough there will be inserts amd manuals available for all the unreleased carts, thanks to our Neo Geo Homebrew folks. Also, !Arcade! might be coming out with MVS boxes, so soon there may be no need to sac a cart for a "complete" package.

Thanks,
Billkwando
http://grador.radix.net/~kws/trey/utngmlink.gif http://www.undertheneogeomoon.com


That, my friend would be a worth while venture, and I would support it whole heartedly.

Dreamh2o
10-03-2000, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by nick_th_fury:
Its funny that speculators grab on to anything that seems to inflate quickly in price. I enjoyed watching them lose their ass on basball card stock years back during the strikes. I knew a few people that lost business & a lot more during that. Sometimes people get screwed for screwing others. Karma I guess. I couldnt care less what any of my carts are worth on resale. They are not for sale, ever. I never buy doubles or xtras to sell. If everyone did that there would be plenty of carts to go around. Theyd also stay at much lower prices. Eventually this fad will pass & the inflated cart prices will drop. A lot of carts like MOTW are hot right now, so I don't blame people for selling them at fair market value which is high right now. MOTW is a fairly rare cart imo. Sac'd converted carts are not rare though. Anything you can have made easily is never rare. No one can just whip up an official SNK MOTW so it has value to collectors & gamers alike. A conversion of ninja masters on the otherhand is only worth the price of the two carts, and the labor. Much much less than the real thing.
-nick_th_fury

I belive that everyone has their own deffinition of "rare". Mine is what is the item worth to me, how great does it make me feel to have the item? And most of all, how common is it. Sac-made carts are not common in numbers, I venture to assume and say that there arent hundreds of any unrealeased sac-made carts. Neo Geo games in general are not common. There may be common games for the system, but even Fatal Fury 2, was made in less quantity than say most NES games.

Dreamh2o
10-03-2000, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by Big Bruno:
Robi, really The only decideding factor is going to be time. But if you look at the history of converted carts you will see that prices fall over time. They have to. Becuase the price of the source material used in making them fall. You are not just talking about using one neo cart as a sac cart, in fact you can use almost any neo cart as a sac cart. With the exception of the newer games of course. it just is a matter of wiring. and in seeing how these carts are wired from the previous forum, do you think the converted carts are going to be worth more, let alone still be working 5 years from now.


I for one belive that they will be working, especially when done by Jeff Kurtz. I really dislike it when people give credit to Auto's and Electronics, for being living beings that grow old and die. Function is Function, and if done correctly, they will always go up in value to me. I plant o have a great collection and leave it to someone who will cherish it. Again... just my opinion.

nick_th_fury
10-03-2000, 04:16 PM
That is true when compared to somthing like a psx or nes game. All neo carts would be rare by comparison. However, that doesnt make sac carts rare even thouh there are less of them than other neo carts. If you try & buy an official Blazing Star youll have a tuff time finding it and when you do competiotion for it. That gives it a high price. When you try and have a Metal slug converted you'll find it extremmly easy, literally no competion and you can have it made quickly. Since everyone can do that why should they pay a higher price for it. Where is the rarity? The converted Metal Slug is about as rare as that Fatal Fury sac. Thats what I'm saying.
nick_th_fury
http://grador.radix.net/%7Ekws/trey/nickslink.gif (http://nickthfury.cjb.net/)
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I belive that everyone has their own deffinition of "rare". Mine is what is the item worth to me, how great does it make me feel to have the item? And most of all, how common is it. Sac-made carts are not common in numbers, I venture to assume and say that there arent hundreds of any unrealeased sac-made carts. Neo Geo games in general are not common. There may be common games for the system, but even Fatal Fury 2, was made in less quantity than say most NES games.

Dreamh2o
10-03-2000, 05:34 PM
Well they are worth the cost of the sac, the MVS, the art, and the convert fee, if judging by that standard. And to me, the highest costing office game I have is KOF98 at $127.50.... so $170 for the total on a Metal Slug makes it not only the most valuable game I have, but also the only one I was willing to pay that much for so far... its my rarest game.... too me... yadayada..my opinion again... http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif (I know I should stop posting to this string now...Iv made a big mess, heheh)

Big Bruno
10-03-2000, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by Dreamh2o:

Again, I myself, do not hope to "MAKE" money, I feel that Neo will always be valuable, and that It is like a good book collection. they are an asset of sorts, and I want to be one of the few dozen to have the whole set. MVS carts lack the flare of a good case, insert, and manual.

Dreamho,

Really I am not knocking you. I Do collect neo items myself. I just do not think that converted carts for me are a extra value or a necessary collectable. My goal is to have 1 of every game in it's official format. US if it was made in the us first. japan for the japan only homecarts. MVS and cd. Converted carts are just a fan base item, something anyone who would like to spend the time can make and yes they do BEEF up your homecart collection by adding to the real estate. Now I may eventually pick up some converted carts, but only if they are cheap enough. Not to say I have not though about getting carts converted. I personaly had been keeping a few SS2 stored away amoung other carts and even bought doubles of the only on MVS carts for conversions. but when I really thought about it I was not gaining anything. I was not getting anything extra out of the game that I did not already have. After all I could already play them on my home and MVS system with the extra options if needed. SO I Sold of all my Sac carts I was keeping.

BTW most the conversions do not come with manuals anyway so you are really only gaining a box, cart sticker and a insert that is slightly smaller then a Official neo insert.

It's totally up to the buyer to buy what they want and I fully support that. I am just saying at least for me converted carts are not that impressive in a neo collection.

Dreamh2o
10-03-2000, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by Big Bruno:
Dreamho,

Really I am not knocking you. I Do collect neo items myself. I just do not think that converted carts for me are a extra value or a necessary collectable. My goal is to have 1 of every game in it's official format. US if it was made in the us first. japan for the japan only homecarts. MVS and cd. Converted carts are just a fan base item, something anyone who would like to spend the time can make and yes they do BEEF up your homecart collection by adding to the real estate. Now I may eventually pick up some converted carts, but only if they are cheap enough. Not to say I have not though about getting carts converted. I personaly had been keeping a few SS2 stored away amoung other carts and even bought doubles of the only on MVS carts for conversions. but when I really thought about it I was not gaining anything. I was not getting anything extra out of the game that I did not already have. After all I could already play them on my home and MVS system with the extra options if needed. SO I Sold of all my Sac carts I was keeping.

BTW most the conversions do not come with manuals anyway so you are really only gaining a box, cart sticker and a insert that is slightly smaller then a Official neo insert.

It's totally up to the buyer to buy what they want and I fully support that. I am just saying at least for me converted carts are not that impressive in a neo collection.

Irony, I want to buy those two SS2's for sacs ... http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Jeff is working on manuals, I think the whole Idea is very cool, but to each their own. I dont intend to sell my sac-made's I just want the whole line up like Dion and Shawn... Im not so crazy as to spend Dion prices.

Shawn
10-03-2000, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by Big Bruno:
BTW most the conversions do not come with manuals anyway so you are really only gaining a box, cart sticker and a insert that is slightly smaller then a Official neo insert.

You are right about NGF games not coming with manuals, but you are dead wrong about the inserts. The NGF inserts are not smaller, at least not in length. In fact, my Strikers 1945 Plus insert was so long that it was crumpling inside the case. I spent $150 on a professional paper cutter in order to trim its edges to fit the new-style box. I trimmed a few magazine covers for practice, since I only get one shot at correcting the NGF inserts.

For a price tag of $1400, one would expect a higher quality of product. An insert that is cut evenly and correctly, a cart sticker that is bubble free and not peeling, and letís not forget a converted cart that is functional. Now that would be sweet! What can I say, Iím picky.

Gambit
10-03-2000, 09:24 PM
That has nothing to do with being picky, its about getting what you paid for http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif

For that much money it should be perfect.

Big Bruno
10-03-2000, 09:36 PM
well I ended up with a NGF insert on a magician lord from a package cart deal I got and it was smaller. that is what I am going by. But you would have more carts to do the comparasion by so I will take your word for it. we should be able to agree it is not cut to standard SNK length. I would not say I am dead wrong though since they seem to be inconsistant.

SmokeYa
10-03-2000, 10:50 PM
I think people who collect Neo carts because they believe they are going to grow in value are just kidding themselves. Some neo carts may increase in value a little in the short run, but they will all eventually drop to low prices.

Right now there is not really a big technology gap between neogeo and other game systems. Soon this gap will become huge and inevitably, people will move on to other game systems. People will also eventually get tired of the same games.

If Aruze develops new MVS technology and a new lineup of games with superior technology, I can't imagine the old games maintaining value. Chances are the new MVS games will not port over to the home system anyway.

Shawn
10-04-2000, 12:23 AM
Big Bruno, the dead wrong statement was not meant to be rude, it just sounded catchy. Btw, I wonít admit to being a Sailor Moon fan.

Dreamh2o
10-04-2000, 12:59 AM
A pot from Egypt 2000+ years old is worth allot more today than it was to the person who made it. We all need our justifications, let me revel in mine, there are no absolutes.

SmokeYa
10-04-2000, 10:19 AM
Well I don't believe that an ancient Egyptian pot is comparable to a Neogeo cart, but I will let you revel in your justifications as you suggested http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Dreamh2o
10-04-2000, 10:34 AM
The point is that given enough time everything has its shot at real value. Diamonds all start out as coal.

HPMAN
10-04-2000, 10:36 AM
Mmmm... I doubt neo carts will still works in 2000+ years... http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/tongue.gif

Dreamh2o
10-04-2000, 11:37 AM
I cant help this responce... "Lick my Sac cart biatches"


- This comment is not directed to anyone, just a joke that needed to be posted, because it was too good to ignore. Thank you, Ill be here all week, and be sure to tip your waitress. (Huh Huh, your giving the waitress your tip)

Robi15
10-04-2000, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by HPMAN:
Mmmm... I doubt neo carts will still works in 2000+ years... http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/tongue.gif


Well I know that when i'm 80 years, I still challenge anyone in Waku Waku 7 and surely will beat everyone!

http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif

Dreamh2o
10-04-2000, 07:26 PM
Even if I need viagra, Ill be playing with my joystick at 80.... my AES joystick that is.

Gambit
10-04-2000, 09:45 PM
Why would you need viagra to play the Neo Geo http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif Read what you type.

Dreamh2o
10-05-2000, 12:57 AM
I can hear the whooshing air above your head gambit.

Gambit
10-05-2000, 01:00 AM
Ok I'm not sure what you mean but if you could please elaborate I would be more then happy to reply to it http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif

vincewy
10-05-2000, 01:30 AM
Tim, if you plan to convert a lot of carts, well, take this advise, PREORDER AS MANY KOF 2000 HOME CARTS AS POSSIBLE from NCS, just in case if all the games after KOF 2000 are all MVS-only, same advise goes to peole converting the carts and/or collecting unreleased carts such as Jeff Kurtz, Dion, and Shawn. You'll never get those games for much less, and you can also encourage Azure to bring out more home carts in the future this way with so many games ordered.

Dreamh2o
10-05-2000, 12:29 PM
For the time being I am just palnning to have the uneleased games in my collection. Dion is obsessed with "resale" of your modded stuff... While I may resell my Metal Slug (IF I GOT A REAL ONE) the unreleased carts are only being made for my collection. Whats NCS and where can I still get preordered KOF2000, I want one just to have KOF2000.

Mouse_Master
10-05-2000, 12:48 PM
http://www.ncsx.com

They are online video game import store. One of the oldest and biggest on the net. They do a very good job and are quite Neo friendly. When they can get Neo games at a good price, they bring them over, and resell them at fair prices!

Keith

Gambit
10-05-2000, 12:50 PM
They don't sell over priced Neo stuff. They would rather not sell it then raise the price on stuff.

Dreamh2o
10-05-2000, 01:26 PM
They sound nice, I wonder why I never found them in any of my Net Searches.

Mouse_Master
10-05-2000, 01:29 PM
They usually have NO Neo Geo home cart stock. They get the games when they come out, and then usually they are gone within a week, if there are any left after pre orders!

Keith

Ukyo
10-05-2000, 04:45 PM
hey guys read the first message on this topic and the read the last one before mine! hahah lol!

Ukyo
10-05-2000, 04:49 PM
Hey guys, read the first message on this topic and then read the last entry before mine...haha lol!

Ukyo
10-05-2000, 04:51 PM
oh **** never mind...i didnt know this topic was 2 pages im a freakn dumb ass


[This message has been edited by Mouse_Master (edited October 05, 2000).]

Gambit
10-05-2000, 06:19 PM
http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Mouse_Master
10-05-2000, 06:28 PM
Please watch the language, want to keep the forums PG! http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif All but the War Room at least!

Keith

Gambit
10-05-2000, 06:29 PM
Sorry man I won't post smiley faces anymore http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif