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chimpmeister
08-29-2000, 11:27 PM
I don't know whether to trust this eBay seller in what he says, or not. In his auction description for a Neo Geo mod chip (which he wants $99 to start, a bit high I think), he says the following:

*** We are currently in the final testing stages to make sure our New Neo Geo MVS Converter will allow you to play **EVERY MVS ARCADE GAME** on your home cartridge system. We will be offering a large number of these units for auction at a price that will "SHOCK YOU". ***

Here's the link to the auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=415014868

Well, what does everyone think? If its true, and he can sell the converters for a reasonable price (questionable http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/confused.gif ), we all might be able to get ANY new games to run on our cart systems. But I shouldn't get my hopes up, these things never seem to pan out . . . http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/frown.gif http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/frown.gif

baseball-star
08-30-2000, 03:31 AM
Actually, I have good reason to believe that this guy (Ray) is telling the truth. I actually bought a mod chip off him, and then decided against buying it after I had already sent payment. I explained to him that i found a better price, and he quickly sent my money back, saying that he wants to keep customers happy and stuff. If this is the case, then i'd assume that he's pretty honest and wouldn't lie about having a converter available soon. We'll all have to wait and see, but personally, i have really high hopes for a converter that i can finally afford!!!

!Arcade!
08-30-2000, 04:16 AM
We noticed your post regarding one of our Ebay auctions and thought we would address this issue personally.

- We are currently in the final testing stages with regards to our converter and we are waiting for delivery of our King of Fighters 2000 MVS cartridge.

- At this time our converter currently is compatable with all MVS cartridges, including, King of Fighters 99, Mark of the Wolves, Striker 1945 Plus, Prehistoric Isle 2, as well as Metal Slug 3.

- This item will be produced in our own factory, which gives us total control over price, quantity and of course quality!

- With this level of control you can expect all the luxuries not found with any other MVS converter - Examples being:

- Top loading design to ensure perfect compatability with your system.
- Durable plastic case to match your home system. (Colour yet to be determined - Any requests?)
- Full colour operator's manual.
- New style AES cartridge case.
- Full colour high-resolution insert.

- Our release price for this item will be $499US, which includes FedEx overnight delivery confirmation for the continental US and Canada.

- Our other services will include:
- Third party developer kits.
- MVS cartridge conversions (Strikers 1945 Plus for only $599US complete).
- S-Video cables.
- RGB Cables.
- The new AES II system.

We hope this answers some of your questions.

Best Regards

JMKurtz
08-30-2000, 08:34 AM
This is GREAT NEWS! I wish you guys the very best on bringing this stuff to market!

Jeff

Billkwando
08-30-2000, 10:08 AM
Would you be willing to mod pre-existing converters at a reasonable price? Don't you think $500 is a little high? Either way, it sounds like GREAT news, and I can't wait to see it when you're done.

Thanks,
Billkwando
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Jason
08-30-2000, 11:00 AM
Say dog, what that new AES II system is?

Mouse_Master
08-30-2000, 01:10 PM
I personally like transparent blue for the casing color, the same SNK used on some MVS carts!

Out of curiousity, what will the third party developer kit contain?

Keith

gargoyle7
08-30-2000, 01:30 PM
Absolutely, thank you for manufacturing and offering this stuff to us neophytes, you will be a welcome addition to the Neo gaming scene. Welcome.

Lee (garg7) http://www.neogeotemple.com

Master Terry Bogard
08-30-2000, 03:38 PM
Wow...That sounds great. Unfortunately, I paid around $550 for the converter from Kewikl (the model that Shawn was selling). I want to get it, but, will the future Neo Geo MVS carts be encrypted again? Since I am getting the converter, I think I have some luxury to wait out (maybe), until they stop making games for Neo Geo MVS. Once again, the whole thing sounds really great...

Supra2000dc
08-30-2000, 04:29 PM
WOW that sounds great.
Put me up for one, even if its the Beta...LOL...
That is great news, i could finally get my MVS Arcade out of my Room, Thank god i really need the room.
Anyway ill take one please, can i pull to the window now?

DIY
08-30-2000, 07:03 PM
Nice!! Make it black please! What is the
AES II? Oh and you said 500 was elease price, will this price go up or down?

Viewpoint
08-30-2000, 09:35 PM
Yeah that is some good news indeed. Count me in if this comes through. http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif

BonusKun

Ukyo
08-30-2000, 10:37 PM
SICK! Do you have a website or anything?

Robi15
08-31-2000, 03:31 AM
I bought my converter for 800us!! It was 6 moths ago! The 500us price is ok.

And what is the AES II system??

More info damn'it.

baseball-star
08-31-2000, 04:11 AM
Ray,

Since you have everyone's attention, why don't you spill some info on your products. I'd really appreciate it (and i bet the rest of the community would too) if we could all get the DL on the developer kit (what it comes with), the AES II?, perhaps a list of converted carts available? I think you have a lot of neo fans drooling right now! (even though $500 doesn't really "shock" me) Oh well, like you said, you do control the price, and it is cheaper than what is out there now. I'm really psyched, better start saving!

Billkwando
08-31-2000, 10:42 AM
"- At this time our converter currently is compatable
with all MVS cartridges, including, King of Fighters
99, Mark of the Wolves, Striker 1945 Plus, Prehistoric
Isle 2, as well as Metal Slug 3."

And backwards compatible as well? Some claim that
running a non-protected MVS cart through a NEO CMC
chip would cause the addressing to go awry, and short
out the Neo. Any truth to this?

"- This item will be produced in our own factory,
which gives us total control over price, quantity and
of course quality!"

"Factory"? You have access to manufacturing
facilities? In the US?

"- Top loading design to ensure perfect compatability
with your system."

Perfect compatibility? Um... are you aware that on
older Neos, the current MVS converters don't play in
stereo? My serial # is around 020,000 and sound only
comes out of one speaker.

"- Durable plastic case to match your home system.
(Colour yet to be determined - Any requests?)"

You have the ability to afford injection molding? MAN
I hope you aren't blowing smoke up our asses! http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/wink.gif Does
that mean you could get cases made for MVS carts?

"- Third party developer kits."

What's the deal w/ that?

"- S-Video cables."

Him, is that the ol' capacitor mod contained in it's
own cable instead of an S-video mod? I've been told
that this only works especially well with older makes
of Neos. Is this the case with yours? Do you have an
array of Neos (from different periods) to test your
products on?

"- The new AES II system"

Sounds like you picked up on my old idea of building a
new Neo from off the shelf parts! I assume you'll
probably make it "pre-modded" with the works, and both
home and MVS slots? Just my guess....

Thanks,
Billkwando
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!Arcade!
08-31-2000, 04:45 PM
"And backwards compatible as well? Some claim that running a non-protected MVS cart through a NEO CMC chip would cause the addressing to go awry, and short out the Neo. Any truth to this?"

- Yes it is backwards compatible.
- No, running any normal MVS cart through the CMC will not damage your system - It simply will not work.

"Factory"? You have access to manufacturing
facilities? In the US?"

- No, but we do own manufacturing as we as printing facilities here in Canada.

"Perfect compatibility? Um... are you aware that on older Neos, the current MVS converters don't play in stereo? My serial # is around 020,000 and sound only comes out of one speaker."

- Our converter has been built to run with full stereo sound. All of the 100+ MVS games we currently have on hand, all run perfectly in stereo.

"You have the ability to afford injection molding? MAN I hope you aren't blowing smoke up our asses! Does that mean you could get cases made for MVS carts?"

- Yes, we have the ability to produce cases for MVS carts.

("- Third party developer kits.")
"What's the deal w/ that?"

- It's a hardware package that will allow the user to code their own games.

"Him, is that the ol' capacitor mod contained in it's
own cable instead of an S-video mod? I've been told that this only works especially well with older makes of Neos. Is this the case with yours? Do you have an array of Neos (from different periods) to test your
products on?"

- It's a stand-alone cable that runs with any RGB source.

"Sounds like you picked up on my old idea of building a new Neo from off the shelf parts! I assume you'll probably make it "pre-modded" with the works, and both home and MVS slots? Just my guess...."

- We have never read your idea on this topic.

- Our AES II system is currently in the final stages of development - More info on this to follow.

Best Regards

Billkwando
09-01-2000, 11:53 AM
- No, but we do own manufacturing as we as printing facilities here in Canada.

Awesome! Phil told me about you, and I heard nothing but the best. =)

- Our converter has been built to run with full stereo sound. All of the 100+ MVS games we currently have on hand, all run perfectly in stereo.

That's cool. I guess what I'm asking is, have you tried your converter with a Neo with a 20,000ish serial number?

- Yes, we have the ability to produce cases for MVS carts.

Awesome! I hope all goes as planned! If you need any help getting your site ready faster, I'm more than willing!! (btw I hope you respond to the email I sent)

- It's a stand-alone cable that runs with any RGB source.

You've got lots of great goodies planned!

"Sounds like you picked up on my old idea of building a new Neo from off the shelf parts! I assume you'll probably make it "pre-modded" with the works, and both home and MVS slots? Just my guess...."

- We have never read your idea on this topic.

Well, I didn't mean LITERALLY. =) I just figured you came to the same IDEA I did, coincidentally. As in "picked up on" it in the sense that great minds (at least in your case, LOL) think alike. http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/wink.gif No offense, k? Didn't mean it the way you thought...

Anyways, it sounds GREAT!

I wish I could show you the site for the who WAS supposed to be making them.... http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/wink.gif

Good luck man, keep us informed, and try to get back to me on that mail!

Thanks,
Billkwando
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neonut
09-01-2000, 05:25 PM
I am intersted in this aes II what is it and what does it look like. Is it a remake of a home system or a super nova type of thing. I am seriously interested. pneracing@netzero.net

!Arcade!
09-01-2000, 09:03 PM
After many requests, pictures of Striker 1945 Plus, Captain Tomaday, Ganryu, and Flip Shot running with our MVS converter are now avaliable. Email us if you would like to view them.

Best Regards

lemonflav
09-11-2000, 11:11 PM
I'm not sure what of the hefty price for the converter.
Why do they cost so much? I would love to own one! Any chancethe price will go down?

Also, does anyone know if my neo system
is copy. The system is super light and it says
VIC-A in the top right corner! It also hat
two voltage settings on the powerpack.

Neo Bomber Man
09-12-2000, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by Billkwando:
- Our converter has been built to run with full stereo sound. All of the 100+ MVS games we currently have on hand, all run perfectly in stereo.

That's cool. I guess what I'm asking is, have you tried your converter with a Neo with a 20,000ish serial number?

Well, living where I do I could always lend a 23xxx system for testing.

chimpmeister
09-18-2000, 09:56 PM
To !Arcade!, any news on the new MVS converters? How are they coming along? Just wondered . . . http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif

!Arcade!
09-18-2000, 10:54 PM
Our converter has been completed, we are now in the process of finalizing the casing as well as the packaging & manual.

For those of you who have inquired, King Of Fighters 2000 MVS, has been tested and plays perfectly.

Regards

Robi15
09-19-2000, 01:53 AM
I must say taht you guys rock! http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif
It is a good price for converting the carts like Strikes 1945 Plus.
Allso can you "MOD" other (newer) convertes to you'r converter standard for resonable price?

Gambit
09-19-2000, 02:17 AM
Hey so whats the price on the new system you guys are making???

Master Terry Bogard
09-19-2000, 12:35 PM
Wasn't it for $500? The converter sounds good.

Dion
09-19-2000, 12:44 PM
I'll believe it when I see it.

Funny thins is, we sell the older adapter for $120. I can makea claim about a new adapter that 100% works with all games too.......the cost is $700. Send now and YOU can have it.

"Talkers vs. Doers"

Dion - "the GOAT"

Big Bruno
09-19-2000, 01:05 PM
Well when it comes to the cart convertor put out from !arcade! I can tell you with a certainy it works. That is why I sold My cart convertor on ebay. I also sent the strikers 1945, ganryu and a flipshot to test on it. He is a very trustworthy source. As far as a website goes it is due to come out the end of this month. The convertor is one of many Neo option and services they will offer, I'm sure the Url will be posted when it is up. As far as what else they will offer you will have to wait for the page.

chimpmeister
09-19-2000, 01:06 PM
I've got a better idea, Dion. You send the universal converter to me FIRST, then I'll pay for it . . . this is the proper way to do business with "NGF". "NGF" sends the product, then waits for the customer to pay for it, when the product actually arrives and they're satisfied that works and is acceptable.

And even better, you should have the customer pay what they FEEL it is worth . . . sounds fair, doesn't it? http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/tongue.gif http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/tongue.gif http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/tongue.gif

Dion
09-19-2000, 01:22 PM
Yes it does sound fair Chimp.

Maybe you can go to a Bentley dealership and tell them that you think their $350,000 Azure is only worth $30K.

Then tell them you want to take it home first and will pay later when you are happy.

I think it's a great idea, but now welcome back to reality
.

I guess you are still very young.

Dion - "the GOAT"

Master Terry Bogard
09-27-2000, 12:22 AM
Hi. Arcade, how's the converter project working? Haven't heard any new info in a while now...

!Arcade!
09-28-2000, 03:34 AM
As previously mentioned, our converter is finished. We are now in the final stages of finalizing the moulds with regards to the casing for this project. As we asked before we would like to have your input pertaining to the colour, we are kind of partial to transparent blue similar to Strikers 1945.

Please be advised that this is only a beta version and not the final product.

Best Regards
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yuckydog
09-28-2000, 10:26 AM
Man, if it works with all the newer MVS games, sign me up for one. But make mine black so it matches my Neo Geo...

James

Big Bruno
09-28-2000, 12:21 PM
Well I would have to say I would like it in black also unless you guys did a casting for a Neo geo home shell in transparent blue. But really either is fine, the mvs carts very in color alot. I'm just leaning more towards black right now.

Todd
09-28-2000, 12:56 PM
Hell sign me up for one. I prefer the blue myself!

Mouse_Master
09-28-2000, 01:40 PM
Transparent Blue all the way!!!! http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Keith

Adol
09-28-2000, 01:49 PM
I'll buy 1...black i think,for matching with neogeo home system color

but transparent blue is great too http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Billkwando
09-28-2000, 04:16 PM
I just hope it isn't really as tall as an MVS cart! That'd be quite the tower sticking out of your Neo! Also, where's the switch to switch between the board generations? Just hiding cos it's a beta? =)

BTW why are the graphics going so far off the sides of the screen? Just curious...

Thanks,
Billkwando
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[This message has been edited by Billkwando (edited September 28, 2000).]

DIY
09-28-2000, 05:11 PM
Nice job! When do you take orders?

Robi15
09-29-2000, 02:24 AM
!Arcade!> Do you also make the artwork to you'r conversions? Is it included in the conversion price?

Thanks.

Robi15

Master Terry Bogard
09-29-2000, 02:50 AM
I wish I knew about this about a week ago. Spent more money on Neo stuff. Then there is tuition, and KOF 2000 http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/frown.gif

Arcade, Thanks for all the info. How's the tightness factor. I mean does it slide well w/ the cart and cart system? Is it easy to get it out?

!Arcade!
09-29-2000, 03:19 AM
!Arcade!> Do you also make the artwork to you'r conversions? Is it included in the conversion price?
Thanks.

Robi15

Yes we will be including professionally printed artwork with all our conversions. To ensure the quality meets our standards we will be devoting a $2 Million 6-Colour perfecting press specifically for this project. (A little bit better than laser printed, don't you think?).

!Arcade!
09-29-2000, 03:33 AM
"Arcade, Thanks for all the info. How's the tightness factor. I mean does it slide well w/ the cart and cart system? Is it easy to get it out?"

Our unit was designed around the current AES cartridge specifications. You can expect our converter to be 3/4 the height of the AES cartridges currently available.

A direct answer to your question is yes, it is easy to get it out.

Master Terry Bogard
09-29-2000, 03:36 AM
It's like everyting I dreamt for converter is here!

Robi15
09-29-2000, 04:15 AM
!Arcade!> GOOD! Is there possible to see pictures of you'r artwork in near future?
I'd like to know how they looklike before ordering. http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Robi15