"Fake" NITD = "Fake" KOF 2K English

Mike

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I think that the topic explains it all.

If they were who they said they were when English KOF 2000 came out then we would have our NITD.

NGF=FAKE
 
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Exactly.... the KOF 2K cart was just a fabricated story to make money. All they
(NGF) did was purchase some Japanese cartridges, had the stickers and manuals
professionally printed in the U.S., and sold them as (un)official SNK U.S. cartridges.
Something of this magnitude would have failed if they had used the crude, traditional means at their disposal to print the material. Since they make large sums of
cash from their over priced cartridges, allocating the funds to print these materials
would have been an easy task.

From Heaven and above!


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SNK Angel

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Here's more food for thought: there is no such thing as an offical English Neo-Geo cartridge. All Japanese cartridges play in English on a U.S. system, and what SNK does is reprint the stickers and manuals in English before releasing the cartridge here. Give it some thought...
 
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SNK Angel

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Yes, that means you're getting a Japanese cartridge with a English manual and insert; pretty sneaky, eh? Why do you think older titles like Nam '75 have Japanese labels underneath the English labels? Something else to think about..

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ONE WINGED ANGEL

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THEE NGF MEANS SIN THE BLASPHEMY OF ENJOYMENT AND HAPPINESS AMONG HUMANS DISCUST RANG OUT ABOUT THERE FILTHY DEEDS AN ALL HATH NAILED THERE COFFIN SHUT


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Here's a good rule of thumb for collectors:

ANY CART WITH: "www.neogeofreak.com" STAMPED ON IT IS WORTHLESS!

...and that is a standard held by most of the community, so don't mess with getting worthless games at ridculous prices.
 
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kyoisthekof

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Ouch bobak!... Worthless? In my old collection I had three games that had that stamp on the back, and I didn't even know it was there. In fact, I just played the games...
 

NSX-T

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mike:
I think that the topic explains it all.

If they were who they said they were when English KOF 2000 came out then we would have our NITD.

NGF=FAKE


First, I like to say I do not like NGF.
But...

I disagree Mike. After a report from NSCX stating it is officail, as a result, I bought one. Please have one in your hand before you state something of this momentum. If you want to prove it to yourself, get some "BALLS" and buy one. $539-$690 is high, but it is 100 in production numbers.

Oh yeh, Dion, A BIG FU(K YOU for making the price so high. And his faggy bitch Chrissy, go get some platic surgery, you look like an idiot.
 
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kyoisthekof

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Kudos for admitting to having purchased the game on this forum!
 

bwi

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Nsx-t: Even vektorlogic put a notice up about there being NO contract between N** and SNK after he took the time to contact them.

You have to accept that people who bought the freaked version payed $200 for an unofficial insert/sticker and manual.

Bri
 

NSX-T

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bwi, you need the game to make a valid decision. Shawn still have 9(?) left. I know others, who have NGF crap, and comparing the two, there is no way NGF produced this game.

Anyways, when this game later on becomes accepted as a officail, "officail", officail unofficail game, or whatever, I will sell the game at a really high marginal profit.

Moreover, I will try to skyrocket the game price now. Whoever is looking for one after NGF and Shawn are sold out, I will sell my copy for $5900.

Don't flame me too hard....moreover, I will not comment on this anymore.
 

autobotclown

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damn they are not official dealers I checked read my post( please read )damn quit this damn topic not official no way no how
stop saying it is.Y ou can have cover made in china and shiped over almost cost nothing and looks pro
damn not official
They know no evey bodys has pobs with official and not they would show contract and that would be that also they go threw no U.S. product or rating system it is not official
damn
 

Big Bruno

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why am I commenting *Sigh*

it is more like NGF contracted the cart from SNK and asked if the can produce a english version. As I said before I am sure there was a attempt to come out with a english version by SNK but then the idea was scraped. NGF got wind and asked if the can have what work was done on it and release a English version. SNK said ok and gave them what they had which was then freaked with all ngf's crap.

there are to many mistakes in the manual for it to be a final product. After all the reports, I find it hard to believe SNK printed it, I do think they designed it though. But The japanese warning labels and the Made in japan is missing off the cart. If you recall the history, they first were going to release the none widescreen version and then said wait it will be the widescreen version. Also, What was that there are more on the way all about anyway, even though they later came out with "oh we could not buy anymore kof 2000 japanese carts to freak" was that not a eye opener for everyone?

No, it is thier usal half truths and lies they have been pulling off for years and people still fall for it. As far as it going up in value. well the only price increases I have seen are the ones they post on thier site which is a joke. Metal slug is one thing since the whole run was in short supply, but KOF 2000.... there are a lot of carts of there already so it is more like 10,000 kof 2000 NGH carts and 100 of which are of questionable english orgins. I am actually quite proud I did not purchase a NGF version of the game. That is one company I would never support. But to each there own.

guess this may bring on another debate.

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VinylBoy

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That's it...
I'm making imitation inserts and manuals, and selling my games for ten times the original price!

And to think, I've been making money the honest way! Silly me...
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djbomberman

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by NSX-T:
bwi, you need the game to make a valid decision. Shawn still have 9(?) left. I know others, who have NGF crap, and comparing the two, there is no way NGF produced this game.

Anyways, when this game later on becomes accepted as a officail, "officail", officail unofficail game, or whatever, I will sell the game at a really high marginal profit.

Moreover, I will try to skyrocket the game price now. Whoever is looking for one after NGF and Shawn are sold out, I will sell my copy for $5900.

Don't flame me too hard....moreover, I will not comment on this anymore.

I don't want to flame you. Since you admited that you have the game....I just want to "see" the game and hold it in my hands before I make a final judgement.....I honestly can't believe we are still talking about this...but c'est la vie. If you are willing to ship the game, I would pay you for the shipping to me and back to you.....since I would like to get a personal hands on opinion on it. From what I understand though....there is errors in the Manual, and the corners of the cart sticker are squared off not rounded....so that makes me wonder....since even the First Neo home carts had stickers with round edges even though they were stuck on over the Japanese stickers. that's some of my arguments that make me not believe that SNK professionally produced the insert manual or sticker. Let me know if you are willing to do what I metioned earlier NSX-T since I was serious...........thanks....



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NSX-T

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by djbomberman:
I don't want to flame you. Since you admited that you have the game....I just want to "see" the game and hold it in my hands before I make a final judgement.....I honestly can't believe we are still talking about this...but c'est la vie. If you are willing to ship the game, I would pay you for the shipping to me and back to you.....since I would like to get a personal hands on opinion on it. From what I understand though....there is errors in the Manual, and the corners of the cart sticker are squared off not rounded....so that makes me wonder....since even the First Neo home carts had stickers with round edges even though they were stuck on over the Japanese stickers. that's some of my arguments that make me not believe that SNK professionally produced the insert manual or sticker. Let me know if you are willing to do what I metioned earlier NSX-T since I was serious...........thanks....


Hi DJB,

The sticker is squared cut. The manual, I do not know, because I do not want to open it.

The insert is the same quality of Kof 99, 98.

Yes to your wanting to see it, but then everybody will want me to do the same. Sorry.
 

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Bobak!:
Here's a good rule of thumb for collectors:

ANY CART WITH: "www.neogeofreak.com" STAMPED ON IT IS WORTHLESS!

...and that is a standard held by most of the community, so don't mess with getting worthless games at ridculous prices.

OK, this reply is NOT a promotion or affirmation of NGF in any sense. However, I just can't agree with your response as it stands. Any ORIGINAL cart with their URL may not be of value to some people, but certainly any CONVERTED cart would. I had several MVS games made for home use, and they (NGF) served their purpose. So, in that respect, I feel I achieved what I wanted. And yes, I DO value these carts, and they have VALUE. Try and buy a Captain Tomaday original home cart. IT DOESN'T EXIST. But a converted one does. And for that you have to pay. Period. I think they did a good job. And it's one I commissioned them to do, so I knew what I was getting into. Education is the key here. So, I would not write off all those carts...just the ones we can't confirm are "original", or where they came from.
 

bojay1997

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I think a big part of the problem is that SNK has been in total disarray for the past year. In a situation like that, it's very easy for a group like NGF to get "permission" from someone to do what they are doing. Who knows if that person had any authority to do so or if they knew that Aruze could care less about 100 cartridges. You have to remember that even prior to being merged in Aruze, SNK had very poor international communication. I remember speaking to several employees from their US office at E3 last year and they literally had no idea what if any products SNK would be releasing to them for sale in English versions. One employee told me that they had no idea what was coming until it actually showed up on their loading dock in California.

I personally don't like NGF because they are rude and exaggerate their status. I think they are hobbyiests and if people want to buy converted carts, that's cool. Just don't delude yourself into thinking that what they release is official or worth $600+.
 

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by bojay1997:
I think a big part of the problem is that SNK has been in total disarray for the past year. In a situation like that, it's very easy for a group like NGF to get "permission" from someone to do what they are doing. Who knows if that person had any authority to do so or if they knew that Aruze could care less about 100 cartridges. You have to remember that even prior to being merged in Aruze, SNK had very poor international communication. I remember speaking to several employees from their US office at E3 last year and they literally had no idea what if any products SNK would be releasing to them for sale in English versions. One employee told me that they had no idea what was coming until it actually showed up on their loading dock in California.

I personally don't like NGF because they are rude and exaggerate their status. I think they are hobbyiests and if people want to buy converted carts, that's cool. Just don't delude yourself into thinking that what they release is official or worth $600+.

Damn....that is a well put response. I know that your post count puts you in the "NEWBIE" status, but that seems like you have been around and have at least some knowledge on the NEO. Glad to have you aboard.....and NSX-T can't blame me for trying....I totally understand where you're coming from....be nice to one and the rest will EXPECT it....right? Oh well....

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by bojay1997:
I personally don't like NGF because they are rude and exaggerate their status. I think they are hobbyiests and if people want to buy converted carts, that's cool. Just don't delude yourself into thinking that what they release is official or worth $600+.

...I take them with a grain of salt. I've worked in various fields over the past 15 years where I have had to deal with the general public, in one way or another. Believe me, if you can handle a job where you have to talk to the "average Joe" on a daily basis, you can learn to deal with ANYONE. Same goes for NGF. Hey, I could less how they promote themselves or how high up on their horses they want to ride. To me, the conversion work was just a job I contracted out. Plain and simple. As long as they got the work done, I cared less what they had to say.

I am with you on the "delusion" bit and the value of their "homegrown" carts. At least with a conversion, you can place a monetary value on the physical items involved (MVS cart and the sac cart). The labor is of course a matter of what you are willing to pay. As is the artwork involved.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by NSX-T:
Hi DJB,

The sticker is squared cut. The manual, I do not know, because I do not want to open it.

The insert is the same quality of Kof 99, 98.

Yes to your wanting to see it, but then everybody will want me to do the same. Sorry.

The insert is NOT the same quality as KOF 99 or 98. The paper quality is higher and the dot resolution is lower. There are also other discrepancies which I listed in my original report. Overall, a VERY quality production, but not printed at the same facility as the other games.

Sincerely,

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bwi

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by NSX-T:
bwi, you need the game to make a valid decision. Shawn still have 9(?) left. I know others, who have NGF crap, and comparing the two, there is no way NGF produced this game.

Anyways, when this game later on becomes accepted as a officail, "officail", officail unofficail game, or whatever, I will sell the game at a really high marginal profit.

Moreover, I will try to skyrocket the game price now. Whoever is looking for one after NGF and Shawn are sold out, I will sell my copy for $5900.

Don't flame me too hard....moreover, I will not comment on this anymore.

I wasn't flaming , just pointing out that it isn't official. I never said *** produced the game, just got the inserts printed. If i make inserts does that make it official, no , neither when NGF does it either. If you like the game , fair enough. But it isn't official merchandise. Period

Bri
 

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by SNK Angel:
Yes, that means you're getting a Japanese cartridge with a English manual and insert; pretty sneaky, eh? Why do you think older titles like Nam '75 have Japanese labels underneath the English labels? Something else to think about..

I have a U.S. Samurai ShoDown cart, and the Japanese Samurai Spirits sticker is sticking out from underneath.
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Now if it only had an NGF sticker on top of that, it would be worth THREE times as much. YAY!
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