KOF2k emulated...time to move on?

RevQuixo · Nov 5, 2001

Well KOF2k is now emulated in the "kawaks" emulator. Perhaps it would be in SNK/Brezza/whatever's best interest to switch to a new piece of hardware for its future games. As much as I love the MVS, the economic viability for it is now gone since the stuff is now out all over the place.

so now what? Naomi? IGS PGM?

Blaine · Nov 5, 2001

I like Naomi.

I might even say try the GameCube arcade hardware as that is supposed to have fairly good 2D. But that's totally a rumor.

LWK · Nov 5, 2001

Originally posted by RevQuixo:
Well KOF2k is now emulated in the "kawaks" emulator. Perhaps it would be in SNK/Brezza/whatever's best interest to switch to a new piece of hardware for its future games. As much as I love the MVS, the economic viability for it is now gone since the stuff is now out all over the place.

so now what? Naomi? IGS PGM?

Kocks emulator can suck my cock.
I am not going to let these simpltons ruin neo with this bad deed for me.
I suggest you see it the same way <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

RevQuixo · Nov 5, 2001

Originally posted by Lord Wolfgang Krauser:
Kocks emulator can suck my cock.
I am not going to let these simpltons ruin neo with this bad deed for me.
I suggest you see it the same way <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Well while you close your eyes REAL TIGHT and click your heels together three times hoping the denial fairies will take you back to Kansas the rest of us will be realistic.

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[ November 05, 2001: Message edited by: RevQuixo ]

Takumaji · Nov 5, 2001

According to the latest rumours, the move towards a new hardware may happen.

But I doubt that this would stop the dumpers. Most modern game pcbs/carts have been dumped, encryption and protection schemes were only small obstacles. It's only a matter of time.

Perhaps a totally new game machine layout would be the answer. Like Robotron 2084, it's emulated, but we know that it sucks without two sticks. You get the picture.

Pichai · Nov 5, 2001

Nothing is wrong with ROMS. I played lots of emulated games at home. As a matter of fact, I have one those ROMS cabinet at home. I am also an AES collector. I put just as much money in Neo Geo as the next guy. I just hate people who sell ROMS.

-Pichai

Power Geyser · Nov 5, 2001

A new board is the answer to the emulation problems if they changed boards every couple of years it would be harder to emulate the games

Orpheus · Nov 5, 2001

What the hell is an IGS PGM any way?

Fran · Nov 5, 2001

COME ON GUYS

COME ON

PEOPLE HAPPY WITH THAT KOF 2000 ROMZZZZ

THEY MEAN FUCK ALL

THEY WERENT GOING TO BUY THE CART OR PLAY IT MVS ANYWAY

THEY ARENT A LOSS

THEY ARENT A POTENTIAL ECONOMIC LOSS FOR BREZZA

COS THEY JUST WANT STUFF FOR FREE

I DONT KNOW IF I WAS CLEAR ENOUGH

BUT PEOPLE LIKE ME AND YOU

WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND BUY BREZZASOFTS SHIT......

YA KNOW

FANS..............

THATS WHAT WE ARE

HEY BREZZA

HERES A FIVER FOR YA

YKNOW

FANS

FUCK THE NEW HARDWARE BY THE WAY

RUBBISH

KEEP IT MVS,BREZZA

LISTEN TO UNCLE FRAN,BREZZA

BUT I WANT THE HCS................

COS IM FUCKIN EUROPEAN

COLLECTOR AND THAT

AND IM FULL OF SHIT

THANK YOU

AND ALL

[ November 05, 2001: Message edited by: Fran ]

RevQuixo · Nov 5, 2001

The IGS PolyGameMaster is a cart board combo system that looks remarkably similiar to the MVS but uses much newer technology. It is made by a Tawainese company...they have a website out there somewhere.

It is famous for the Knights of Valour games and more recently Dodonpachi 2 came out for it.

I beleive Crystal of Kings is going to be a PGM game...not entirely sure though

LWK · Nov 5, 2001

Originally posted by RevQuixo:
Well while you close your eyes REAL TIGHT and click your heels together three times hoping the denial fairies will take you back to Kansas the rest of us will be realistic.

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[ November 05, 2001: Message edited by: RevQuixo ]

Its called sarcasm, look it up.

RevQuixo · Nov 5, 2001

Originally posted by Lord Wolfgang Krauser:
Its called sarcasm, look it up.

Look it up? That's funny coming from a guy with horrid spelling and grammar. Oh and I suggest that you "look up" sarcasm as well...because your little retort is hardly sarcastic by any conventional definition. Incidently, my reply to your initial spewing of nonsensical toodler-speak does fit that definition. As does this reply. Oh and before you revert to your typical flame patterns I might as well get this in first...you have been owned...and this is a DIGGGGGGGGGGG.

Back to the playpen with you, LWK.

chimpmeister · Nov 5, 2001

Originally posted by Pichai:
Nothing is wrong with ROMS. I played lots of emulated games at home. As a matter of fact, I have one those ROMS cabinet at home. I am also an AES collector. I put just as much money in Neo Geo as the next guy. I just hate people who sell ROMS.

-Pichai

Very well put Pichai, I agree completely. I have no problem with people using ROMs and emulators, but selling them is really disgusting . . . <IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0">

EX_Andy · Nov 5, 2001

Originally posted by Fran:
COME ON GUYS

COME ON

PEOPLE HAPPY WITH THAT KOF 2000 ROMZZZZ

THEY MEAN FUCK ALL

THEY WERENT GOING TO BUY THE CART OR PLAY IT MVS ANYWAY

THEY ARENT A LOSS

THEY ARENT A POTENTIAL ECONOMIC LOSS FOR BREZZA

BUT PEOPLE LIKE ME AND YOU

WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND BUY BREZZASOFTS SHIT......

NO. NO. Brezza can't succeed by just relying on a small fanbase. Didn't work last time. Won't work this time.

If they're smart, they'll bring out KOF 2001 (and all their other games) on other home consoles (like the PS2), and if they do, emulation is going to cut into those profits, because it's a lot harder to say no to a $50 PS2 game than it is to a $270 AES cart.

Like I said, they should move on from the 16-bit, as much as I... we love it.

Kage-Ryu · Nov 5, 2001

kof2k emulated? That's great! I know thats a VERY unpopular response since almost everyone on these boards hates emulation(or if they don't they sure make it seem that way). This is good news for me at least because now i can try it out and see if i want to buy the cart.

Unfortunately, i dont have money comming out of my ass so i really can't afford to buy a game and be stuck with it. Thankfully, i can try out a game with an emulator and see how it is beforehand.

Is it so wrong for me to think this way? To each his own i guess....

Jackal · Nov 5, 2001

Oh well... not thrilled about this, but I knew it would happen sometime. What's done is done. <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0"> On the good side, at least it took them some time to crack it. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

You know what? Maybe a switch to NAOMI isn't a bad idea. No PC can handle a NAOMI game. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

SNK developers would drool <IMG SRC="smilies/drool2.gif" border="0"> over the extra capability for graphics and sound.

LWK · Nov 5, 2001

Originally posted by RevQuixo:
Look it up? That's funny coming from a guy with horrid spelling and grammar. Oh and I suggest that you "look up" sarcasm as well...because your little retort is hardly sarcastic by any conventional definition. Incidently, my reply to your initial spewing of nonsensical toodler-speak does fit that definition. As does this reply. Oh and before you revert to your typical flame patterns I might as well get this in first...you have been owned...and this is a DIGGGGGGGGGGG.

Back to the playpen with you, LWK.

I easily piss you off, thats why I still associate with you. Hurry up and run along, I hear Ray needs his shoes shined.
You put alot more work into this then I do, so who owns who?
You never miss the chance to start a potential fight.
Loose your head. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

RevQuixo · Nov 5, 2001

Originally posted by Lord Wolfgang Krauser:
I easily piss you off, thats why I still associate with you. Hurry up and run along, I hear Ray needs his shoes shined.
You put alot more work into this then I do, so who owns who?
You never miss the chance to start a potential fight.
Loose your head. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Loose your head?

oooookay. I only start fights with idiots.... just seems that you fit that category more often than not. Why don't you go shine the shoes of....of...um..oh wait no one likes you, nevermind.

By the way don't feel all warm and special that you can easily piss me off...I could rattle off a loooooooong list of other people on this board that make me feel the same way. You just happen to be the most vocal.
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ibbo · Nov 5, 2001

er yeah I sometimes do that emulation stuff, but well, you know how it is with sexually transmitted diseases

LWK · Nov 5, 2001

Originally posted by RevQuixo:

Loose your head?

oooookay. I only start fights with idiots.... just seems that you fit that category more often than not. Why don't you go shine the shoes of....of...um..oh wait no one likes you, nevermind.

By the way don't feel all warm and special that you can easily piss me off...I could rattle off a loooooooong list of other people on this board that make me feel the same way. You just happen to be the most vocal.
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Having fun? I am <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Loose your head?

oooookay. I only start fights with idiots.... just seems that you fit that category more often than not.

Well if you only start fights with idiots, then thats the best you can live up to.
Okay I fit the category of a idiot, whats next?

Why don't you go shine the shoes of....of...um..oh wait no one likes you, nevermind.

Yeah its so very sad, nobody likes me.
RevQuixo, will you be my neighbor?
Got your Strikers yet? Well though out, that one. Your last post was more entertaining.

By the way don't feel all warm and special that you can easily piss me off...

Yes. I feel even more special now that you admit it. :P

I could rattle off a loooooooong list of other people on this board that make me feel the same way.

That sentence proves more then needs to be said.

You just happen to be the most vocal.

I find it hard to believe, out of all the people on this board, I have that much of a effect on you.
I am flattered. <IMG SRC="smilies/cool.gif" border="0">

RabbitTroop · Nov 5, 2001

I don't understand why we should move on just because KOF2K has been dumped... we never moved on when all 150 or so other games were dumped.... why now? Why not move on because the system is getting old, or because you want to see the series on different platforms... moving on becuase of a ROM dump seems silly. I buy software, I will continue to buy software for the Neo.. I will not stop just because I can download it for free... I doubt the majority of the board really thinks that the dumping of KOF2K means we should just run away from the Neo screaming... I don't get it,

-Nick

RevQuixo · Nov 5, 2001

Nick, when the neo-geo roms first starting getting emulated SNK started using their encryption method. That worked up until now. Basically, unless SNK can think of an imaginative way to protective their intellectual property then THAT is the reason to move away from MVS....although the fact that it is aging hardware is also a good reason.

RevQuixo · Nov 5, 2001

Originally posted by Lord Wolfgang Krauser:
I find it hard to believe, out of all the people on this board, I have that much of a effect on you.
I am flattered. <IMG SRC="smilies/cool.gif" border="0">

Yawn.

You're stretching LWK.

Enough of this...don't want the powers that be moving this thread into the war room, now do we?

LWK · Nov 5, 2001

Originally posted by nruva:
I don't understand why we should move on just because KOF2K has been dumped... we never moved on when all 150 or so other games were dumped.... why now? Why not move on because the system is getting old, or because you want to see the series on different platforms... moving on becuase of a ROM dump seems silly. I buy software, I will continue to buy software for the Neo.. I will not stop just because I can download it for free... I doubt the majority of the board really thinks that the dumping of KOF2K means we should just run away from the Neo screaming... I don't get it,

-Nick

True.
That is what I was trying to say earlier.
Why give the people responsible for this the satisfaction of knowing they had that much of a influence on the scene.(Being the assholes they are, I doubt they would care in the first place)
If that were the case, the neo scene would have closed shop years ago.
I know we are stronger as a all around community, to just be written off so easily.

I agree that even years after death there is still some form of life.
Neo could die right now IMO, the system just has so many good games as is.
What alot of others are saying (I also agreed to this to)
That we do not want to see a bunch of badly produced games just to provide quantity, because it kills the quality the system is known for.
Who puts shit on a pedistal?
Although KOF 2001 has me hooked at the vid's I have seen so far, the upcoming new year looks better then expected.

chimpmeister · Nov 5, 2001

Well I downloaded four encrypted SNK games today as ROMs, MOTW (79MB), KOF99 (75MB), PI2 (52MB), and Ganryu (18MB). Played PI2, took a while to load but runs fine. Didn't have time to try the others yet . . .

The nicest thing is that when it came to answering the question of whether I owned the ROMs, I answered yes truthfully in each case. I have those games on MVS so I have no problem with downloading them. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

But damn they did take a while, even with the T1 at my company and a top rate of about 75k/sec . . . those ROM files are MONSTROUS!

Oh and for good measure, I contributed $$ to the site hosting the ROMs, something I had been meaning to do for a while. As I've said many times, I have no problem with ROMs, just the leeches who sell them. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

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