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Shawn
04-18-2001, 09:41 PM
This merger has caused uneasiness for both the neo-geo.com & orochinagi.com userbase. A majority of our active members, original and newcomers, show discontent with the current situation. Over the course of this week, I have read through all emails, icqs, as well as many of the pertinent threads concerning the forums future. It is not just the same few people who complain about our current situation, it is a majority.

Moderator positions will experience restructuring. A moderator should be a respected member of the community, show maturity, and dedication to this site. Many feel that the forums are over moderated, having an excessive amount of staff. This has caused a downward spiral in our efforts to moderate the board and retain order. To save Gunsmith from showing favoritism, I will take the responsibility of reorganizing the moderator positions. Having two administrators is another issue members disagree with. Gunsmith will remain a moderator of the Orochinagi Forums. He, and his mods, may govern this section as they see fit.

After more time has passed and all of the members of the forums have come accustomed to each other, we can decide on additional changes and where to go from there. I will still provide the space required to host Gunsmith's King of Fighters section of the site.

Neo Rasa
04-18-2001, 09:52 PM
Sounds good man. http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Iori E
04-18-2001, 09:54 PM
...

I can't imagine what you must be going through right now. Thank you for putting up with the situation.

I may not agree with this merger, but I give credit where credit is due, and you deserve a huge amount of it.

chimpmeister
04-18-2001, 10:05 PM
Good decision, Shawn. I hope things will settle down and this extended period of unrest will come to an end.

RyoGeo
04-18-2001, 10:05 PM
Shawn, I think this is a really good move. There are a number of members within both camps that have been making the effort to get along and find new friends, and this can only help.

Letting the OrochiNagi run their own camp during this time can allow for adjustmet and reduce any feeling of second class citizenship. They are certainly not second class.

Anyway, thanks for the hard work. I think both groups appreciaate the effort.

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samuraiX
04-18-2001, 10:08 PM
Good move Shawn. It seems as if everything is working its self out.

Ukyo
04-18-2001, 10:17 PM
Thanks Shawn, We all know you are doing your best to get this situation under control.

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kyoisthekof
04-18-2001, 10:37 PM
I'm sure it will all work out. Hard work should always be appreciated, anyway.

EvilMattMUN
04-18-2001, 11:04 PM
I'll miss having the ability to edit posts with picture sigs in 'em, but I guess it's for the best. I'm okay with it.

Taiso
04-18-2001, 11:35 PM
I'll cast another positive vote for Shawn's decision.

Shawn is the admin of neo-geo.com. Whatever he decides is cool with me. I've learned a lot and met many interesting people because of this web site.

Just so you know Shawn, you'll have at least one member's complete support. I know what it's like to create something community based and to try and maintain it through all the hardships and troubles that eventually come. You have my respect.



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Dolphin
04-19-2001, 12:16 AM
Shawn's got my 100% backing on the restructuring move as well. Don't be deceived into thinking that these decisions were made on an ill-conceived, irrational whim. A great deal of behind-the-scenes deliberation took place before any changes were implemented.

rarehero
04-19-2001, 12:33 AM
i wont say anything that wasnt
already said here except for..
..
thank you shawn

eddie

Fat Cat Lim
04-19-2001, 01:59 AM
Good call anyway Shawn...though I don't quite particularly agree with the decision to choose WhipBogard as a Moderator for 4 forums. She's relatively new and I'd prefer if Whip's Disciple were chosen instead. Hope you don't mind me saying this, WhipBogard.

Fat Cat Lim

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[This message has been edited by Fat Cat Lim (edited April 19, 2001).]

kyoisthekof
04-19-2001, 02:00 AM
Sometimes you just can't catch a break with people... =oP

Shawn
04-19-2001, 02:26 AM
The new members from ON are handling the restructuring exceptionally well. The flames have diminished, no reason left to argue. We are coming closer to achieving unity within the community. Whip's Disciple will be reinstated as Moderator. That was a selfless act to recommend a fellow comrade instead of your self, much appreciated.

Viewpoint
04-19-2001, 02:38 AM
Well I hope things work out in the long run Shawn. I said it to you before that this site is now the Largest Neo Geo related Site on the Net and to have all this fighting would just really make it look bad overall. Either way, I hope you guys get it all panned out.

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Robi15
04-19-2001, 02:44 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Shawn:
The new members from ON are handling the restructuring exceptionally well. The flames have diminished, no reason left to argue. We are coming closer to achieving unity within the community. Whip's Disciple will be reinstated as Moderator. That was a selfless act to recommend a fellow comrade instead of your self, much appreciated.

Shawn, how is the relation between you and Gunsmith? Do you two communicate everyday?
I saw somewhere at the forums that Gunsmith ignores you or something.. Now, I can't belive that..

Well, anyhow, Shawn you are doing a great job under these troubled times. I hope we all NG's and ON's get a long soon..



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WhipBogard
04-19-2001, 03:07 AM
Ahh.....
I'm cool wif it....
Nice move Shawn!
http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

FCL:
Eek? ME? I thought it was Oro....I never manage to handle those forum.... You read it carelessly......... http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/tongue.gif
*tease FCL over and over again*

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Shawn
04-19-2001, 03:10 AM
Rarehero, I have deleted your post. Its an extremely rare instance when I take action directly on a post within a thread, but this deletion was necessary. We need to stay positive, please do not flame in this thread.

Robi15, The communication between Gunsmith and my self is not frequent enough. I estimate that hes online roughly 1 to 3 hours per day, at least during this past week. We do communicate through icq during this time, but I have stressed that more communication is required. To give you an idea of the communication we share, I have sent him a total of 15 emails (no exaggeration) since the merger began, and he has sent me a total of 3.

Fat Cat Lim
04-19-2001, 03:14 AM
WhipBogard: Glad to see that you're taking this well. http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Shawn: I think Gunsmith's busy with his job or something. That's why he can't post or email as much as he wants to. Grrr...wish I knew his ICQ number.

Fat Cat Lim

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Robi15
04-19-2001, 03:15 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Shawn:
Rarehero, I have deleted your post. Its an extremely rare instance when I take action directly on a post within a thread, but this deletion was necessary. We need to stay positive, please do not flame in this thread.

Robi15, The communication between Gunsmith and my self is not frequent enough. I estimate that hes online roughly 1 to 3 hours per day, at least during this past week. We do communicate through icq during this time, but I have stressed that more communication is required. To give you an idea of the communication we share, I have sent him a total of 15 emails (no exaggeration) since the merger began, and he has sent me a total of 3.

That from my opinion is a bad move from Gunsmith. To start working to achieve the total merge, at least you two, need to have a total teamwork. For a moment I get a feeling that he is using you, but there can be another explanation to this though..



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A_Sombra
04-19-2001, 03:18 AM
Towards the end of ON.com, Gunsmith wasn't on-line very much either, IIRC... that's why so many folk from ON.com ended up being moderators at one point or another.

rarehero
04-19-2001, 03:21 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Shawn:
Rarehero, I have deleted your post. Its an extremely rare instance when I take action directly on a post within a thread, but this deletion was necessary. We need to stay positive, please do not flame in this thread.


so what is this?
on members get to call me
a d*** sucker and an ass kisser?

rarehero
04-19-2001, 03:27 AM
funny i always thought of
myself as a rather positive
guy myself..
i was actually in different to
the on merger but personal attacks
like this kinda belong to
the war room right?
...
..
and me getting censored
just sits funny with me..
.

Bobak!
04-19-2001, 03:30 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by rarehero:
so what is this?
on members get to call me
a d*** sucker and an ass kisser?

I know its annoying, rarehero,

They're just bitter. Let it go. Just two bad reactions out a bunch of positive reactions from both ng & ONers.

With a combination of my own impetous and a similar desire by Fat Cat Lim, I've also deleted the posts attacking rarehero, its only fair






[This message has been edited by Bobak! (edited April 19, 2001).]

Iori E
04-19-2001, 03:32 AM
Yeah, please delete... just to be consistent. Ugh... simply looking at those two flames makes me sick.

You can delete this post too, if you wish...

Fran
04-19-2001, 05:22 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Shawn:
This merger has caused uneasiness for both the neo-geo.com & orochinagi.com userbase. A majority of our active members, original and newcomers, show discontent with the current situation. Over the course of this week, I have read through all emails, icqs, as well as many of the pertinent threads concerning the forums future. It is not just the same few people who complain about our current situation, it is a majority.

Moderator positions will experience restructuring. A moderator should be a respected member of the community, show maturity, and dedication to this site. Many feel that the forums are over moderated, having an excessive amount of staff. This has caused a downward spiral in our efforts to moderate the board and retain order. To save Gunsmith from showing favoritism, I will take the responsibility of reorganizing the moderator positions. Having two administrators is another issue members disagree with. Gunsmith will remain a moderator of the Orochinagi Forums. He, and his mods, may govern this section as they see fit.

After more time has passed and all of the members of the forums have come accustomed to each other, we can decide on additional changes and where to go from there. I will still provide the space required to host Gunsmith's King of Fighters section of the site.


WAY TO GO,BOSS

ABOUT TIME,ID SAY....

DONT STOP !!!!!

BioMotor_Unitron
04-19-2001, 05:37 AM
Good move, Shawn. I only just checked back, so do not know everything that has changed yet, but the site is still standing. Hopefully things will improve from this point forward.

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Caris Nautilus
04-19-2001, 06:35 AM
I just have to say.... about time http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Fran
04-19-2001, 08:25 AM
glad to have you back,caris

so you saw the light,eh?

Black_Hayato
04-19-2001, 08:36 AM
I personally dont believe in deleting posts. Looking back at what I said, it was spiteful. I would have deleted it IF asked.

DEVIL_GUI
04-19-2001, 09:04 AM
GOOD MOVE, ABOUT TIME, AND PEOPLE SHOULD NOT SPITEFULLY ATTACK HERE.......

RARE HERO, YOUR THE MAN!

DEVIL_GUI

Caris Nautilus
04-19-2001, 09:17 AM
Good move, http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Krizalid
04-19-2001, 10:30 AM
Shawn, why the f*** is Gunsmith not the moderator of the suggestions forum anymore?

Caris Nautilus
04-19-2001, 10:32 AM
Because it's a neo.com forum, live with it... man http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif

BioMotor_Unitron
04-19-2001, 10:32 AM
The only people that moderate the Suggestions? area are Admins.

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SoloFenris
04-19-2001, 11:16 AM
I am still a little in the dark about something here. It has been said that the ON mods can handle their forums as they see fit and we'll handle ours yadda yadda. That's all well and good, but I don't think two batches of people sticking to what is essentially two different camps on the same board defines "merger" in any dictionary. What exactly does your moderator restructuring entail? Honestly, the only way I think we will achieve anything that even remotely resembles unity, is if you appoint mods from both sides in every forum. What I mean is, let's say you want 4 mods for news and rumors. You pick two that you trust from ON and two from NG. Same thing goes for what is now considered their forums. By doing this, what people consider to be the ON forums, or the NG forums, will become "our" forums. And when I say "our", I mean everyone's. I mean, we actually have people apologizing for posting in an "ON" thread or an "NG" thread and that is crazy. If you erase the line and collapse the boundary you eliminate the feeling of "crossing over" and with it, a lot of anxiety.

Jeff

TMOSteel
04-19-2001, 11:29 AM
I thing anything that can bring peace to both sides at this point would be a good thing. I too found it a little overwhelming, and was confused as to why all of a sudden there were moderators popping up left and right.

Dog
04-19-2001, 11:42 AM
I agree with Jeff.

Fat Cat Lim
04-19-2001, 11:46 AM
TMOSteel: You want an introduction for each new moderator introduced?

Fat Cat Lim

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BioMotor_Unitron
04-19-2001, 11:50 AM
It was always a big thing for us when we got a new mod. Not like a holiday or anything, but just because of the fact that we had and needed so few.

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rarehero
04-19-2001, 02:46 PM
thanks shawn
thanks bobak!
and this ones fo all
my NG BROTHAS!!

http://www.angelfire.com/sk2/akirayoshi/neocollection__.gif

NEOGEO PRiDE!!!!!

[This message has been edited by rarehero (edited April 19, 2001).]

FiLiriCaN HoMEbOY
04-19-2001, 04:03 PM
This one's for all the ONerz...

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~@/\/=OrOchiNagI PriDE=\/\@~

Later.

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Caris Nautilus
04-19-2001, 04:05 PM
LOL, thats funny. A microsoft sidewinder playing KOF...

[This message has been edited by Caris Nautilus (edited April 19, 2001).]

Brandon St Randy
04-19-2001, 04:06 PM
LOL...you crack me up, dude.

Heero Yuy
04-19-2001, 09:17 PM
Thats so true Orochinagi for life http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Jackal
04-21-2001, 12:45 AM
Good move, Shawn.

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