GameSpy Article: Top 10 Most Collectable Games - No Neo-Geo!

Parallax Abstraction · Dec 17, 2002

Hey guys. I was checking around this morning and came across this article on GameSpy entitled Top 10 Gaming Grails:

<a href="http://www.gamespy.com/top10/december02/grails/" target="_blank">Check here.</a>

It doesn't come as any surprise to me that there's no Neo-Geo games here. Most of the games are for 8-bit or older systems. While I don't doubt that these games are certainly valuable, yet another article seems to have passed over the Neo-Geo which as we all know, contains some of the most valuable collectables out there. Anyone care to make any comments on the list?

[ January 19, 2003, 05:39 PM: Message edited by: Parallax Abstraction ]

Hot Chocolate · Dec 17, 2002

Some of that stuff didn't need to be there, proto types are cool and all but not all that great.

And did Panesian Games <img src="graemlins/spock.gif" border="0" alt="[Spock]" /> <img src="graemlins/spock.gif" border="0" alt="[Spock]" /> really need any mention in it at all??

David Fallows · Dec 17, 2002

Radiant Silvergun? There's one on Ebay every two days.

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Pointless casual pap.

TonK · Dec 17, 2002

Originally posted by Parallax Abstraction:

While I don't doubt that these games are certainly valuable, yet another article seems to have passed over the Neo-Geo which as we all know, contains some of the most valuable collectables out there. <hr></blockquote>

Valuable to who?

Do you know why they passed over the Neo-Geo?

They probably have been doing this research for a long time and determined that the majority of Neo-Geo collectors are idiots.

For the $2000+ you are spending on a NOT RARE AT ALL Metal Slug, you can invest in a REAL treasure.

The collectors are what made the Neo-Geo corrupt.

This site doesn't help.

Nobody else in the world gives a flying fuck about Metal Slug or Quiz Chibi.

Its this circle of people.

This article should tell you something.

But keep wasting your money.

Like I've always said, it will come back to bite you right in your fat ass.

There are HARDCORE FANS who don't give a fuck if their carts are worthless.

But then there are the investors and noobs who think they are part of some inner circle if they buy up games and give props. (Too Short)

I plead guilty to the above, but now that I'm back on planet Earth I realize that Neo games were fun as hell, but not worth collecting for the insane price. My fond memories lie in other systems.

I'd take Mega Man any day over Metal Slug for memories.

I have a small collection of AES titles which if the prices fall, I won't even care.

These titles left a mark on me, and I appreciate them.

1 more game and I'm done.

Market is nearing its last breath.

Mark my words, investors.

DangerousK · Dec 17, 2002

Originally posted by Cappadonna:


Valuable to who?

Do you know why they passed over the Neo-Geo?

They probably have been doing this research for a long time and determined that the majority of Neo-Geo collectors are idiots.

For the $2000+ you are spending on a NOT RARE AT ALL Metal Slug, you can invest in a REAL treasure.

The collectors are what made the Neo-Geo corrupt.

This site doesn't help.

Nobody else in the world gives a flying fuck about Metal Slug or Quiz Chibi.

Its this circle of people.

This article should tell you something.

But keep wasting your money.

Like I've always said, it will come back to bite you right in your fat ass.

There are HARDCORE FANS who don't give a fuck if their carts are worthless.

But then there are the investors and noobs who think they are part of some inner circle if they buy up games and give props. (Too Short)

I plead guilty to the above, but now that I'm back on planet Earth I realize that Neo games were fun as hell, but not worth collecting for the insane price. My fond memories lie in other systems.

I'd take Mega Man any day over Metal Slug for memories.

I have a small collection of AES titles which if the prices fall, I won't even care.

These titles left a mark on me, and I appreciate them.

1 more game and I'm done.

Market is nearing its last breath.

Mark my words, investors.<hr></blockquote>

Well said Tonk...

When the market does collapse we'll see who the true fans are; those who don't bitch about all the money they lost.

I can't wait for that day. Just so I can laugh at the collectors who think this is an investment.

TonK · Dec 17, 2002

Originally posted by DangerousK:


Well said Tonk...

When the market does collapse we'll see who the true fans are; those who don't bitch about all the money they lost.

I can't wait for that day. Just so I can laugh at the collectors who think this is an investment.<hr></blockquote>

I can't wait either.

Dolphin · Dec 17, 2002

The Japanese version (NOT to be confused with the more common PAL/Euro version) of Treasure's Alien Soldier should've made the list too. Unlike RS, the JPN version of Alien Soldier is actually difficult to find.

Mouse_Master · Dec 17, 2002

Personally, I think the list is pretty lame. They say 'gaming' yet only seem to cover consoles. And their basis for the list is not too great.

Radiant Silvergun for the Saturn is not very rare, and some titles included on this list just seem like they visited a couple fan sites to find out what everyone was hunting for. They hit the 2600, 5200, NES, Saturn, Odessey2, etc.

Some other games that should have made the list? Any of the original Ultima's, people pay top $ for the first 4 with all of the goodies, some of the original EA computer games such as MULE, one just sold for 800 Euros on Ebay.de. Inclusion of Bounty Bob Strikes Back was good, but it is rare in all formats, and should have said so. Hell, for the Sega Saturn, they could have included Panzer Dragoon Saga.....

Anyway, they forgot to specify their parameters, and creating a 'prototypes' category was just lame. I'd say they get a D for effort. Lied about the research they did, so they didn't get a C.

slerch666 · Dec 17, 2002

Personally I don't agree with most of the titles they had on there. Panesian Games? WTF? Why, really, would ANYONE want this game in the first place?

Can't say I agree with Radiant Silvergun either. Yeah, it was cool, but highly collectible? I don't think so. At least Chase the Chuckwagon was really rare, along with the Nintendo cart at the end (who the HELL would pay $6500 on a cart with 3 games... THAT AREN'T EVEN FULL GAMES!)

As far as Cap's assesment of the Neo "scene", even if it does fall through, I won't mind. I've only "invested" in MVS carts, so paying $320 for KoF 2K1 some time back, then watching the price drop to $190 only after a few short months would be enough to burst anyone's "investment" bubble (I never had any intentions on "investing" anyway). I paid what I paid because I wanted to play the game in a timely fashion and I wanted to own it. I'll NEVER sell it, no matter how hard up I am for cash, along with every other game I own. NGH carts are so expensive because people really want them. I agree that given a year or maybe a little more, most of the prices will drop to at least 1/2 what they are at now. Of course, people probably said the same thing 5 years ago when it looked like the Neo was going the way of the dodo...

Orpheus · Dec 17, 2002

Originally posted by Cappadonna:


Valuable to who?

Do you know why they passed over the Neo-Geo?

They probably have been doing this research for a long time and determined that the majority of Neo-Geo collectors are idiots.

For the $2000+ you are spending on a NOT RARE AT ALL Metal Slug, you can invest in a REAL treasure.

The collectors are what made the Neo-Geo corrupt.

This site doesn't help.

Nobody else in the world gives a flying fuck about Metal Slug or Quiz Chibi.

Its this circle of people.

This article should tell you something.

But keep wasting your money.

Like I've always said, it will come back to bite you right in your fat ass.

There are HARDCORE FANS who don't give a fuck if their carts are worthless.

But then there are the investors and noobs who think they are part of some inner circle if they buy up games and give props. (Too Short)

I plead guilty to the above, but now that I'm back on planet Earth I realize that Neo games were fun as hell, but not worth collecting for the insane price. My fond memories lie in other systems.

I'd take Mega Man any day over Metal Slug for memories.

I have a small collection of AES titles which if the prices fall, I won't even care.

These titles left a mark on me, and I appreciate them.

1 more game and I'm done.

Market is nearing its last breath.

Mark my words, investors.<hr></blockquote>

Tonk, your mantastic dude.......fuckin mantastic!

I was about to say the same exact shit.

tsukaesugi · Dec 17, 2002

Yeah, I'm sure that list would vary quite a bit depending on the person who wrote it...

As for investing in NEO games... there are probably wiser areas to invest money in. I just collect the games I want to play...

Baseley09 · Dec 17, 2002

Certainly down to personal taste.

I wouldt even be interested in any of those games except Dracula X n Silvergun, but i can burn those, not pay £100 +

[ December 17, 2002: Message edited by: Baseley09 ]

evil wasabi · Dec 17, 2002

my dracula x is better than theirs, it has a spine card

that lkist was pretty bad.

they should have at least had some kind of premise they set down or something. atleast a rairity:cost

emand factor.

oh well

and tonk is right.

RabbitTroop · Dec 17, 2002

Originally posted by Cappadonna:


Valuable to who?

Do you know why they passed over the Neo-Geo?

They probably have been doing this research for a long time and determined that the majority of Neo-Geo collectors are idiots.

For the $2000+ you are spending on a NOT RARE AT ALL Metal Slug, you can invest in a REAL treasure.

The collectors are what made the Neo-Geo corrupt.

This site doesn't help.

Nobody else in the world gives a flying fuck about Metal Slug or Quiz Chibi.

Its this circle of people.

This article should tell you something.

But keep wasting your money.

Like I've always said, it will come back to bite you right in your fat ass.

There are HARDCORE FANS who don't give a fuck if their carts are worthless.

But then there are the investors and noobs who think they are part of some inner circle if they buy up games and give props. (Too Short)

I plead guilty to the above, but now that I'm back on planet Earth I realize that Neo games were fun as hell, but not worth collecting for the insane price. My fond memories lie in other systems.

I'd take Mega Man any day over Metal Slug for memories.

I have a small collection of AES titles which if the prices fall, I won't even care.

These titles left a mark on me, and I appreciate them.

1 more game and I'm done.

Market is nearing its last breath.

Mark my words, investors.<hr></blockquote>

A FUCKING MEN... You hit it right on the head, these carts have no value outside of our circle, I've said that for years. People ask, will Metal Slug be worth $20,000 in 10 years... maybe, if you will buy it. Most of the industry sees the Neo as cool retro fun, but at that price, there are tons better retro fun to be had... That is why I am an MVS person... Still kind of pricey at times, but it is all for the love of the games... Collectors, you better hope people here don't loose interest or the value is down to zero.

It is a niche system with a collection of fans, good fans that pay lots of money to play good games... but, as the scene dwindles, the carts will reach their limit and return to zero...

We are the market, there is no outside market, we handle the supply and the demand... bahhh, whatever... The point is simple, Neo Geo.. lots of fun, expensive, cool... but a holy grail... no way,

-Nick

RabbitTroop · Dec 17, 2002

Originally posted by Baseley09:
Certainly down to personal taste.

I wouldt even be interested in any of those games except Dracula X n Silvergun, but i can burn those, not pay £100 +

[ December 17, 2002: Message edited by: Baseley09 ]<hr></blockquote>

And that is not what the article was about, not who could amass the largest collection of rare items... It was who could own original pieces of history. You can burn them? Oh you are special, no one has a CD burner or access to the isos... God, this is why I can't stand a lot of our pirate members here. They have no fucking respect. A collection thread is brought up and they talk about saving a couple hundered and burning the game...

-Nick

TonK · Dec 17, 2002

Originally posted by nruva:


A FUCKING MEN... You hit it right on the head, these carts have no value outside of our circle, I've said that for years. People ask, will Metal Slug be worth $20,000 in 10 years... maybe, if you will buy it. Most of the industry sees the Neo as cool retro fun, but at that price, there are tons better retro fun to be had... That is why I am an MVS person... Still kind of pricey at times, but it is all for the love of the games... Collectors, you better hope people here don't loose interest or the value is down to zero.

It is a niche system with a collection of fans, good fans that pay lots of money to play good games... but, as the scene dwindles, the carts will reach their limit and return to zero...

We are the market, there is no outside market, we handle the supply and the demand... bahhh, whatever... The point is simple, Neo Geo.. lots of fun, expensive, cool... but a holy grail... no way,

-Nick<hr></blockquote>

And to think these people think their carts are so valuable.

My post was 31337

Amix · Dec 17, 2002

And here I am hoping my Samurai Shodown 2 will be worth 6, maybe 70 bucks one day. I play the fool. . .

Franco Bash · Dec 17, 2002

Nailed it Cap. I think most people here have forgotten what this is about. I only buy the carts I buy so that I can play them not horde them thinking someday they will be worth a ton of money or worse thinking that someone is going to be impressed by the fact that they have spent thousands on a single cart. At some point common sense should have kicked some of these people here in the ass and made them realize that at the end of the day none of this shit really matters, its supposed to be for fun.

chainsawyak · Dec 17, 2002

Originally posted by Cappadonna:


Valuable to who?

Do you know why they passed over the Neo-Geo?

They probably have been doing this research for a long time and determined that the majority of Neo-Geo collectors are idiots.

For the $2000+ you are spending on a NOT RARE AT ALL Metal Slug, you can invest in a REAL treasure.

The collectors are what made the Neo-Geo corrupt.

This site doesn't help.

Nobody else in the world gives a flying fuck about Metal Slug or Quiz Chibi.

Its this circle of people.

This article should tell you something.

But keep wasting your money.

Like I've always said, it will come back to bite you right in your fat ass.

There are HARDCORE FANS who don't give a fuck if their carts are worthless.

But then there are the investors and noobs who think they are part of some inner circle if they buy up games and give props. (Too Short)

I plead guilty to the above, but now that I'm back on planet Earth I realize that Neo games were fun as hell, but not worth collecting for the insane price. My fond memories lie in other systems.

I'd take Mega Man any day over Metal Slug for memories.

I have a small collection of AES titles which if the prices fall, I won't even care.

These titles left a mark on me, and I appreciate them.

1 more game and I'm done.

Market is nearing its last breath.

Mark my words, investors.<hr></blockquote>

w00t.

Michael Yagami · Dec 17, 2002

Originally posted by Cappadonna:


Valuable to who?

Do you know why they passed over the Neo-Geo?

They probably have been doing this research for a long time and determined that the majority of Neo-Geo collectors are idiots.

For the $2000+ you are spending on a NOT RARE AT ALL Metal Slug, you can invest in a REAL treasure.

The collectors are what made the Neo-Geo corrupt.

This site doesn't help.

Nobody else in the world gives a flying fuck about Metal Slug or Quiz Chibi.

Its this circle of people.

This article should tell you something.

But keep wasting your money.

Like I've always said, it will come back to bite you right in your fat ass.

There are HARDCORE FANS who don't give a fuck if their carts are worthless.

But then there are the investors and noobs who think they are part of some inner circle if they buy up games and give props. (Too Short)

I plead guilty to the above, but now that I'm back on planet Earth I realize that Neo games were fun as hell, but not worth collecting for the insane price. My fond memories lie in other systems.

I'd take Mega Man any day over Metal Slug for memories.

I have a small collection of AES titles which if the prices fall, I won't even care.

These titles left a mark on me, and I appreciate them.

1 more game and I'm done.

Market is nearing its last breath.

Mark my words, investors.<hr></blockquote>

And he hits the nail right on the fucking head! I could care less if my RB2 isn't worth as much as it should be because the cart is scratched or the sticker is faded, screw that. I bought the damn game to play the damn game, not to enshrine it in some display case. I'd love to see the prices bottom out and watch all the "collectors" shit their collective pants. Maybe then those of us who actually like to play the games can take over.

Yagami

[ December 17, 2002: Message edited by: Michael Yagami ]

TheBigBB · Dec 17, 2002

Don't jump to conclusions you guys. I have some valuable carts and I would be upset if the prices suddenly hit rock bottom, but it's not cause I'm just a freak collector. I really love the Neo and I love the games and part of the incentive for me to throw down so much on them is that I know that if i ever need the money back the games will still be worth something so it's not that big of a deal. It's not like buying a car where you know that it's a permanent investment. I don't really think that prices will drop off or else I would have waited on some of my purchases. Yes, Metal Slug home cart is insane, but when you get down into the $300 range it's not out of reach especially if you feel like you could always resell. I don't see why you'd laugh at people who just wanted to own the carts to play them like me. Maybe if someone is a total collector freak, then yeah.

The prices will never sink low though for some of the rarer releases as long as a few people at any given time consider themselves Neo-Geo collectors and will fight to own a rare game. Like on an auction, all you need is 2 people who want your item badly and you're golden. How many Rage of the Dragons carts will be for sale online in 10 years? I can't see it being very many...

I do agree that the crazy collector types are... crazy... People who own games solely for the sake of owning them. Just don't get down on me if somehow some of my games end up worth nothing and I'm sad about it.

Nick Goracke · Dec 18, 2002

Originally posted by Cappadonna:


For the $2000+ you are spending on a NOT RARE AT ALL Metal Slug, you can invest in a REAL treasure.

Nobody else in the world gives a flying fuck about Metal Slug or Quiz Chibi.

Its this circle of people.

This article should tell you something.

<hr></blockquote>

What *is* a real treasure?

I mean, c'mon, who outside coin collectors care about Buffalo Nickels? Who outside of card collectors really care about Honus Wagner?

I firmly believe that collectors are a big reason there's still interest in Neo-Geo games and, in turn, we still get new releases.

And seriously, this article doesn't tell me anything other than it wasn't very well researched.

FeelGood · Dec 18, 2002

In all honesty, that list was constructed from the collection of "rare" games that the writer amassed himself. Expect him to sell it all on ebay in a few days...

Robert · Dec 18, 2002

It doesn't matter if the neo games are not considered as the rarest. I play neo cause it's good not cause it's rare.

chris1 · Dec 18, 2002

How do I get into this.
The Holy Grail list sucks ass.
But the problem is that there are too many RARE games out there,some of which should have been on the list.
Chase the Chuck Wagon (Atari 2600)
This game is the Holy Grail of collectors.

This game is what Created the Term Holy Grail.

I'm a Collector who Loves the Neo and looks for "holy grails" games.
But I will not pay the outrageous prices that these games run.
I usually get lucky and find rare games for much cheaper.
Ebay creates high pricing also.

This article was possibly created by another collector,William Cassidy.
Or they are manly his opinions or research.
Collectors may have told him what they are looking for.
I attend meetings and Collectors trade/shows.

The games listed do come into talk often as being wanted. "holy grails"
Radiant Silvergun (Sega Saturn)is talked about as being a Must own game but not a holy grail.

The Proto Type games,I don't know why they added them but the are really sought out now.
There are too many of them too to even be listed.

The others are really hard to find but I have seen most of them in person and they were attainable.

At the meetings the Neo is talked about amongst the biggest collectors.
It's a must own system to any collector,and they stress that.

I usually start the conversation about the Neo Geo and it takes off.
But Metal Slug or other rare home carts are not that sought out or talked about enough to become a Holy Grail to them.

I believe that the rare Neo Geo games should be held in regard as Holy Grails.
I think the Boots/Conversions/Roms/and being able to own the game on MVS may attribute them not being held as Holy Grails on a list .

You really have to be a HUGE Neo Geo lover/collector to pay $3000 to $25.000 for 1 Neo Geo cart.
If I had the cash I would.
Out of every collector I have met they have all talked about Chase the Chuck Wagon.
I have met Neo collectors also who have High regards for the Neo Geo over anything else.

But the games in that list are the Hot Topic at the moment to collectors,amongst others.

That list looks rushed and lazily done.

[ December 18, 2002: Message edited by: chris1 ]

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