Crystal System, USA offices, Apple Industries - OH MY!!

Mike

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THE STINGER REPORT #106



More On Neo Geo Group



Word On The Street:
Sources close to the traumatic NeoGeo Group were particularly disquieted by the recent coverage regarding their operation, and have revealed some of the actual day-to-day activities to attempt to prove the viability of their operation. Though the Stinger has not totally altered its skepticism regarding the company's future plans, there seems to be more management heads turning to the problem of how to establish the SNK legacy in a vastly reducing market place.

A disclosure last month, still to be fully amplified, suggested that Sun Amusement and BrezzaSoft would work closer together with the possibility of a total merger of the operation so giving the amusement manufacturing and operation of the Japanese NeoGeo Group a internal software development presence. Whether this would see the adoption of the Crystal System as the day-facto replacement to the current thirteen-year-old Neo-Geo MVS architecture it was far too early to speculate. Many rumors at the time hinted that the short-lived Crystal System bore familiar technology to the Neo-Geo architecture. A failed attempt to Internationally sell the Crystal System dashed the company's hopes for hardware independence. A closer relationship with Sun Amusement may offer a more stable revenue stream and platform for the company to develop upon.

Regarding hardware, there proved to be a major move afoot to attack the erosion of the MVS hardware in certain Asian territories.

In an announcement with the start of the SNK NeoGeo HK web site, it was announced that a new MVS architecture would be placed on the market. Designated the NeoGeo MV-1C, the system would be more familiar as a single cartridge (1-slot) MVS unit. For followers of the previous Neo-Geo architecture, a quizzical eyebrow must be being raised! The MV-1C has existed for some time in the line-up of previous MVS systems including the MV-1A, MV-1B, MV-1F and MV-1FZ etc.

For SNK NeoGeo HK to treat this as a new system is intriguing, but to suddenly claim that the MV-1C offers improved graphical performance, better color saturation and an improved operational life-span is clearly a move to try and stamp the 'official' badge on the products bearing their name, and distance themselves from any 'Gray Imports' that have been circulated within this market. Some statements were made to certain sites that the SNK NeoGeo HK MV-1C would be the 'only' platform able to run the highly anticipated (and much delayed) The King Of Fighters 2002, though this has yet to be confirmed by any other source.

Regarding the KoF franchise, news has reached certain sources that Eolith has developed an enhanced version of the original 2001 release of this popular fighter to be supplied exclusively through their operation. Known as The King of Fighter 2001 Plus, and bearing only the Eolith Co. Ltd. 2002 license, the game has been seen at a number of Korean sites who proved closed mouth regarding the linage of this new cartridge in their facility. No official comment has been supplied by Sun Amusement regarding the appearance of this game and it is even speculated that the Korean developer Eolith (who had been embroiled in ownership issues regarding their use of the KoF brand), may have developed a version for their own home market.

It is this misappropriation of intellectual property (IP) that has flared-up in two very interesting ways. Reported after the Stinger REPORT NeoGeo coverage, it would seem that the previous SNK owner Aruze was to be sued by current SNK owner Playmore regarding the use by the former pachinko company of KoF licensed characters in their machines. The attack has been brewing since AOU when the machines in question were seemingly waved in Playmore's face. Aruze is thought to be extremely bitter that they now see the SNK brand moving forward while they felt their tenure as the brand owner was hindered - missing out on the big bucks.

The second interesting development was witnessed by the sudden closure of the SNK NeoGeo USA web site days after it opened. This seems to be linked to what was touched upon by our previous commentary regarding Playmore (NeoGeo Group) and SNK's previous US distributor Apple Industries. A raging brawl that had been played in secret exploded onto the pages of RePlay Magazine. Apple has claimed to be the only source of new Neo-Geo content in the US, claiming that no matter what Playmore claimed Apple would be the only route for US operators to get their hands on future titles. Apple exhibiting they had stock of Metal Slug 4 at AMOA backed this claim. Every attempt by Playmore to independently represent their new SNK NeoGeo products in the US had been thwarted.

Playmore has now taken the drastic step of paying to print a statement formally removing their products representation from Apple as a last ditch attempt towards establishing an official US presence. However the continuing claims by Apple to be able to get SNK titles (as seen on their web site) has not stopped, and the disgruntled former distributor has thrown additional roadblocks to SNK NeoGeo USA's appearance.

Just to conclude - no matter the aspirations of many sources that SNK is back, it is obvious that the SNK brand, rather actual product, is being flaunted. There is a statute of limitation on operator faith in supporting SNK related product - without some concrete evidence to the contrary, the SNK brand and the proposed product line, will find it difficult to establish any foothold outside of Hong Kong!
 

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Parallax Abstraction

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Oh boy...even in a reincarnated state with different executives, the brand SNK is still synonimous with gross mismanagement. These guys are headed for doom once again if they can't get their heads on straight.
 

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All I can say is WOW! Hope they can get their shit straight and quickly. What I do not understand is why would Apple want to cause trouble for Playmore? I mean in the end, are we not all trying to get to the same conclusion?

Thanks Mike for the good read,

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Daisuke Jigen

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Wow, just like that they kick Apple to the curb. I don't like the sound of that.

No mention of Snk vs Capcom....
 

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No mention of any new games... except KoF 2001+, which I assume would be mvs only, if it does exist.
Makes you wonder how long before a certain person claims to have a copy though :rolleyes:

It'll be interesting to see how long the Playmore incarnation of SNK will last now. The failure of the crystal system must have lost them big bucks. If they decide to re-adopt the cs to replace mvs where does that leave the neo-geo?

I'm more inclined to believe that they will scale back mvs development (to the point where it ceases) and that playmore will seek revenue through the release of SNK licences on modern platforms such as the PS2, Gamecube, GBA and possibly X-Box.

Anyway, thanks for the read Mike.
 
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Sounds very deep, but you lost me after KOF 2001 Plus. Now I'm going to be thinking about it for weeks on end. I wonder if they'll actually improve the graphics, music, and storyline (and if they do that, will Kliff and Justice be in it? [Sorry, Guilty Gear X Plus reference]).

Hoo boy. Sounds like rough times are in store for SNK Neo-Geo...
 

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Wow...looks like there's a brewin's a transpirin'.

Hope they get their shit straight. Guess that answers the question about why the SNK USA site has been long gone.
 

david

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Man that's messed up. They better get this settle because I want snk neogeo to settle down in america here. Whats with apple trying to go against them anyways if they are the one making the game and they feel they want to open their company here then apple shouldn't be interfering.
 

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Makes me wonder what all is new in 2001 Plus? Interesting, and I haven't even heard of this before reading this post. Wonder if I can find anything on it? Hmmm....
 

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Yeah, the real SNK has been dead for a long time... Playmore is just walking around with the corpse trying to make people believe they are with SNK... I think things may start a downward turn soon... And I am having lower expectations for SNK vs Capcom :( I say give the project to Evoga, Noise and Evoga are the only two new companies that are making good games... Breeza and Eolith are crap in my eyes... KOF 2001 and 2002 aren't that great of an achievment.

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As for King of Fighters 2001 Plus, it is said to be a bootleg/fake version. Basicly it has these problems:

1. Bosses are unbalanced, power is not right for fair play

2. No matter where the boss is on your team, when he dies the players game is over... That doesn't seem right :) So if you lead off with a boss and you lose, the match is over.

There are similar versions of KOF 99 and 2000, and like those two, this version has some small graphical glitches (not horrible, but sometimes the bosses will flicker or something won't draw right... rare occurance though).

I don't think this was done by Eolith... but who knows. If you want to see the King of Fighers 2001 Plus click <a href="http://www.16-bitglorydays.com/temp/kofhacks/" target="_blank">here</a>

-Nick
 

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Thanks for the link nruva. Are you sure those are actually from Eolith? It looks like the same 'ol time-honored crappy bootlegs of fighting games that have been around since the OG SFII. Very weird.

As for Apple/SNKNEOGEOUSA, well...I gotta say, so far the output from Playmore has been less than stellar. At this point, it must be asked whether they've done anything worth putting out in the US. Some brand NEW (meaning freshly drawn, NEW fucking ideas) content is SORELY needed.
 

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Seems like the Apple-SNK distribution contract was made impossible when the "SNK" that Apple was dealing with went bankrupt.

I wonder what Apple is up to?

The name of the new company might be similar, but unless there was some kind of contractual clause that specified that a transfer in ownership would keep Apple's contract intact. I dunno.
 
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I have these MVS carts. Is anyine interested in having their own? I can order them, but they aren't cheap...

TsmallZ
 

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Thanks for the post Mike. Looks like there is even more "fun" for the loyal fan to look forward to down the road.

In other news...

Since all of this Playmore crap has heated up in the last few days I've not touched my Neo Geo games nor have I switched on my cab. For me to say this is quite a statement as I generally play at least one Neo Geo game practically every day. Hopefully all of this noise will settle and I'll get back to gaming on the Neo Geo too sweet! Meanwhile, I'm getting heavy doses of XBOX live content.
 

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Tiptonium:
Thanks for the post Mike. Looks like there is even more "fun" for the loyal fan to look forward to down the road.

In other news...

Since all of this Playmore crap has heated up in the last few days I've not touched my Neo Geo games nor have I switched on my cab. For me to say this is quite a statement as I generally play at least one Neo Geo game practically every day. Hopefully all of this noise will settle and I'll get back to gaming on the Neo Geo too sweet! Meanwhile, I'm getting heavy doses of XBOX live content.
Check out the date Tip........ loco
 
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