some new kof02 100%+ combo vids

Originally posted by hyde:
<strong>many of those 100% life gone combos do have exceptions though.
many need 2 players run on the same side to do extra punches or fireballs/ the opponent needs to be huge (like chang)/ needs much power bars to do so...</strong><hr></blockquote>

Not to mention that all of those combos are most likely damn near impossible to do in a regular 2-player human match. 2001 had a number of 100% or almost 100% combos in it, but almost none of them could be done in a real match between 2 human players, even by the best.

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Originally posted by Spike Spiegel:
<strong>Oh please. With the exact screen you have to be at, plus the fact that the person you are fighting would not only have to be stupid as hell, but actually help you (like running INTO the wall in that one), just further proves how impossible these would be to pull off in real life. I say, if you meet all these requirements in the fight to actually DO that? Hell, more power to you.

Spike</strong><hr></blockquote>

I see... so, somebody that throws a punch at their opponent when they are stuck in a corner is stupid, right? Only one combo required their opponent to run into the wall was shown in that new batch of combos we've seen, so that really isn't a valid excuse to void off some of the other ones.

Some of these combos are indeed a bit silly... but there are a few that are VERY much possible against human opponents. Check Seth's combo again... I'm certain that something like this could happen to ANYONE. That is, unless, you claim that you've NEVER tried to fight your way out of a corner in a fighting game before.

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Originally posted by VinylBoy:
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I see... so, somebody that throws a punch at their opponent when they are stuck in a corner is stupid, right? Only one combo required their opponent to run into the wall was shown in that new batch of combos we've seen, so that really isn't a valid excuse to void off some of the other ones.

Some of these combos are indeed a bit silly... but there are a few that are VERY much possible against human opponents. Check Seth's combo again... I'm certain that something like this could happen to ANYONE. That is, unless, you claim that you've NEVER tried to fight your way out of a corner in a fighting game before. </strong><hr></blockquote>

If you're in a corner to begin with, you're getting handled. Secondly, what happened to rolling out of there? Thirdly, with that punch, that combo only can be started, it seems, if you both get hit at the same time. I mean, I wouldn't be TOO afraid of the guy that pulled those off. I'm not going to sit there for him.

Anyhow, the Ralf combo. you have to be in JUST the right part of the screen, and sit there watching him wind up a punch and not do anything about it. The day I allow all those requirements to be met, then I will turn in my joystick.

I think they're nice because you see what CAN be done. It's more for show than for real battle... like kung fu.

Spike

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Originally posted by Spike Spiegel:
[QB]If you're in a corner to begin with, you're getting handled. Secondly, what happened to rolling out of there? Thirdly, with that punch, that combo only can be started, it seems, if you both get hit at the same time. I mean, I wouldn't be TOO afraid of the guy that pulled those off. I'm not going to sit there for him. [/B]<hr></blockquote>

Not necessarily. The fight begins, and someone scores a simple combo against you with any character. Bingo! You're in a corner. I can put any person near or into a corner with a basic Kensou combo... it doesn't take someone totally dominating the game in order to be caught in one. This happens to everybody at one time or another in a video game... in fact, for some characters being in a corner is actually a benefit and not a curse.

You brought up some valid points about getting out of one, though... the person could have rolled. However, the person using Seth could have sensed you were going to do that, or even yet roll backwards while you rolled forward to keep your back very close to the wall. As for Seth's Counter DM, I think it also has the ability to counter foot attacks as well. Knowing all of this, the only things for an opponent to do when caught in a corner against Seth with meter is to roll or do nothing. Obviously, nobody is going to sit there and let themselves get beaten to death.

Anyhow, the Ralf combo. you have to be in JUST the right part of the screen, and sit there watching him wind up a punch and not do anything about it. The day I allow all those requirements to be met, then I will turn in my joystick.<hr></blockquote>

A Ralf user can charge up a punch after he has knocked you down. I didn't count the seconds needed to charge a full punch up, but that's not that uncommon. Plus, if I recall, the punch is unblockable AND has "Snap Back". You get knocked down, Ralf goes into his Vulcan Punch. Unless you're able to "tech roll" or think of an effective counter (like Chin's Floor Scoot), you're a sitting duck. And yes, screen positioning is obviously key for this combo, but I don't think that something like this can only be done from that particular distance. You could do that combo closer to the corner and probably connect with his Drop Kick after the Vulcan Punch. The 2-in-1 into the HSDM looks like the move that h as the most timing in the first place.

I think they're nice because you see what CAN be done. It's more for show than for real battle... like kung fu.

Spike<hr></blockquote>

True... a lot of combos we see can only be done in either training modes or under special conditions like a MAXed Super Meter. They're meant just for show and entertainment... however, some of these combos are more than logical and can be done under the right circumstances. And if people could actually do THESE combobs under hypothetical situations, imagine what they could do in a real battle? I know plenty of players that would NEVER be able to get these combos off at all in Practice Mode. Then again, I also know people that are able to do some of those huge combos during a real battle. Even I have a number of near-death combos for Athena that sometimes I'm able to pull off at an arcade against humans. And in past games, I had a number for Chin and Kensou as well. It all varies...

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Originally posted by The True Warrior:
<strong> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" />

Hahahaha!!! I KNEW IT!!! I was right all along! <img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" />

Now KOF 2002 has really lost a lot of credibility... <img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" />

Oh well, that doesn't mean that the game can't be fun or enjoyable...it just means that you have to work hard at being a better player and watching out for set-ups and traps! <img src="graemlins/mrt2.gif" border="0" alt="[Mr T]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

No offence bro, but no way. 100% combos were bound to be found, this has just met ng.com's eye for the most part. People discredit a game. I havent gotten the chance to really watch the vids yet, but 100%'s were in kof 2k1,97,98,99,2K
You should be used to this by now. Anyone who seriously plays does not need any 100%'s. No way to get good by just juggling like a lunatic. I've played 2K2, and its much much better then I expected.

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Originally posted by Spike Spiegel:
<strong>All well read points. The only things I can add in closing is that I feel that people shouldn't be unhappy with the fact that these super combos are in the game. I'm glad, to be honest. Shows that there's an openness to the game, and yet they are very hard to pull off most the time. I wish people wouldn't look at this and say "well, they ruined this game" because of it. I don't think it's ruined at all, and it only adds a bit of neatness to it. If you get rocked by one of these, then you deserve it and more power to the guy that can even pull them off!

I can't wait to get this game.
Spike</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yes... as long as there is some level of complexity to the combo then I don't mind if they are indeed 100%. Luckily for KOF 2002, most of the combos that I have seen are rather complex... of course, there are some rather simple "Lather, Rinse, Repeat" style combos that do the same type of damage and should have never been allowed to be in the final version.

And I will most definitely have the home cart as soon as NCS gets their copies.

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Originally posted by Phoenix Down:
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Not to mention that all of those combos are most likely damn near impossible to do in a regular 2-player human match. 2001 had a number of 100% or almost 100% combos in it, but almost none of them could be done in a real match between 2 human players, even by the best.</strong><hr></blockquote>

heh, if you are korean and go to <a href="http://www.ongamenet.com," target="_blank">www.ongamenet.com,</a> you can see some of the best kof2k1 matches from korean players. i mean, how they even start the striker combo up is freaking amazing..

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Originally posted by elmers:
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heh, if you are korean and go to <a href="http://www.ongamenet.com," target="_blank">www.ongamenet.com,</a> you can see some of the best kof2k1 matches from korean players. i mean, how they even start the striker combo up is freaking amazing..</strong><hr></blockquote>

you mean the may lee with xiang fei + angel as striker?
that's a cheap infinite i think..

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Originally posted by elmers:
<strong>ay yeah..u need to be korean resident (u need a registration number similar to social security number) if u have aim or msn i could lend you mine. but another problem is cuz that since its in korea, u need a really good connection..heck, i have to be at my college just to view it

right now they are in 3rd division, which at the moment is not really impressive..1st and 2nd however,,,oh my goodness #@$#!%^ u can still view the 1st and 2nd division movies also

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upload those mpegs for us lot,yeah?

cheers

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Originally posted by Fran:
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upload those mpegs for us lot,yeah?

cheers</strong><hr></blockquote>

i would but, its streaming video, and it opens a new window to show it to u. i try to right click on it, but they have that stupid script thing that doesnt let u..if anyone knows a way tell me out of this plz do tell.

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