Can we expect a new Neo home system based on the crystal system?

I guess only Vinh can answer this one...

Any ideas? I think we can!

Mike, I don't know the answer to this one. My guess is if it takes off well enough, there may be a chance, but if SNK has learned anything the home market isn't where the money is. Neo Geo cannot afford to go through years of losing money again, so the chances are slim if we go by logic alone. It would be neat though; however, given today's technology with home consoles, the Crystal System is still underpowered. A great idea for the arcade market, but a losing one for the home. Only hard core gamers like us will support this type of system, which isn't enough, unfortunately to make them a good profit.

I have heard though, Kawasaki is planning on a successor to the MVS. We're not talking Hyper 64 either. Realistically, I'd say, it's about time he brings out something new. We all love the MVS, but it's older than me now and it's blowing fumes pumping out these intense games. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

I guess that we can always purchase a Sigma and eventually, cart cases, stickers, inserts ect... will be made.

In one way or another, we'll get our hands on the successor to the MVS.

What is a crystal system? Never heard of that! <IMG SRC="smilies/ohno.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/ohno.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/ohno.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/ohno.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/ohno.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/ohno.gif" border="0">

I am praying for a new home system. Even when the AES first came out SNK had to know that they did not have a mainstream system at $600 a system, and $100-$200 a game. Hardcore fans are the only people interested in beutiful 2-D games anyway. A new home system with the right backing, and proper feedback would be a dream come true.

Probablly a long way off though, 2 years minimum. If there is one thing that is certain about Neo Geo fans, we will wait!!!

Criterionradiohead <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

I agree with the Move.. what is the Crystal system?

No way any new home system will come from SNK or its successors. As TRIEUMINATOR pointed out, the Crystal System is still severely underpowered in comparison to the new generation of consoles (XBox, GC, DC, and even the POS2). There just wouldn't be a market for it, certainly not a large one. Anyway, the new hardware should be cheap enough I guess . . . if you really want it, you can just get the original stuff and run it out of a cabinet or supergun.

Bah, I have no desire to get that crystal system. I mean, the crystal of kings game doesn't even look that good. Oh well.

Spike

whats thsi crystal system? lol is it 3d? <IMG SRC="smilies/spock.gif" border="0">

chances are you will NEVER see the crystal system become A home console. it would be A move so stupid that the people responsible should be laughed out of the biz. in an industry where hype and sub par games reign supreme an underpowered niche system like the crystal system (as well as the hyper 64 which went through the same scenario) should never be redesigned for the home market. besides SNK might be back under A new name and that means they better not start fucking up like they did all these years or they wont stand a chnce in hell.

Originally posted by the_move:
<STRONG>What is a crystal system? Never heard of that!</STRONG>

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The crystal system is the piece-of-crap hardware that Brezza is running that piece-of-crap-looking game, Crystal of Kings on. You can see screenshots at

http://www.brezzasoft.com

Originally posted by ORPHEUS:
<STRONG>chances are you will NEVER see the crystal system become A home console. it would be A move so stupid that the people responsible should be laughed out of the biz.</STRONG>

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THANK you.

[ December 10, 2001: Message edited by: EX_Andy ]

Playing devil's advocate. I wish Neo Geo USA all the luck and more, but..

I don't think The Crystal System will do the job.

Now, I have no doubts the system is capable of more than what Crystal Kings shows...very rarely does a 1st generation game live up to the full potential of the system (notable exceptions seem to be Soul Calibur, but that was in development on Naomi hardware for a while and Mario64). I mean, look at Jumping Flash. Not impressive at all, but it was a very early PSX game. Look at Joy Joy Kid! Then look at MS3. Big difference. So I know the best is yet to come, but this could be the opportunity to release a high-res 2D system. Everyone knows how good Guilty Gear looks! Because it double-res sprites. Here they can create a double-res spirte system and basically bring us the best 2D the world has ever seen. So far, the system looks like a juicy 16-bit machine. And I don't think that will fly.

Also, I deeply hope that they don't use those DataPlay media that I heard were compatible with the processor they're using. God, that'll be SO BAD. Those things are so highly propriatary that we could have something worse than Suicide Batteries.

I mentioned this before.

And this talk about them being "Anti-Piracy" only makes me more nervous.

I'm hoping that they don't go this route, but it seems to be a very small and remote possibility.

[ December 10, 2001: Message edited by: Blaine ]

hmmm i don't think too there will be no new neo or crystal home system
but in this large market of 3d systems is space enogh for an 2d only system with good graphics look at the gba this little 2d mashine are better selling than ps2 and gc in japan..ok it's a cheap portable but i think out there are enough people willing to buy 2dgames and mashines

I think that Big Bear had an awesome idea on DHP (maybe it wasn't his), but it makes me think that perhaps all SNK needs to do is release an upgraded MVS and AES that must use official controllers to play games. Like the dongle idea that you have in the gameshark CDX.

There was no problem with the MVS/HC other than fast dumping of new games. This would curtail the ability of emu fans to play new games for free. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

Thanks for the Crystal of Kings link, it looks like an awesome game. Reminds me of Golden Axe (another of my favorites). Beautiful Boss characters. I'd like to hook up that stuff to my Super Nova if possible.

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Maybe SNKNeo-Geo will take the basic premise of the AES II and make it an official SNK product? I would still like to see a similar product come to light and with a new SNK backing and cool encasing, maybe it could make a mark on the market and find a niche. At least there would be resources to advertise and give it a fair try. Any thoughts.

hmmm reminds me of the look of an advanced CPS2 game. oh well it dosent seem like it will float. plus it seems liek it dosnet have the animation and character as teh neo geo. <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0">

I don't think the hard core AES collectors would like a new system out. I can assure all of you that the value of the AES carts will drop, since all the newbies who aspire to make money and collect the AES will convert to whatever is "newer." AES will still be collectible, but just not valued as much.

For now, Kawasaki is concentrating on the MVS and Crystals System first. The AES's future is uncertain for the long run, which it has been for the past year or so. Nothing new really.

SNK is linked to the arcade and the arcade will save SNK. Stop thinking about a new home system, it will be a deception because of the lack of money. But pray for a new arcade system. Crystal show the way. If you look at the arcade production, the game are now very big and they cost so many dollars that many local arcades were obliged to close. SNK can create a low cost system with great games but without the technology pack of the new namco or sega products.
That can be an another way for arcade owners to make money. If you have to change games like F355 challenge every 4 months, you need to have a lot of money. With crystal for example, you just have to change the cart and the inserts.

This is the only solution for me.

Robert, we can all only hope that the arcade market is well, but in fact, studies have shown and is showing that it is a dying market. Midway is out, Williams is out, Capcom is half out, Konami is limiting production. It goes on and on. In terms of the Neo, honestly, the MVS is a dead market for arcades. It's a collector's market now, no matter what anyone says. I attend some of the most popular arcades in California and only in some of those will you see supporters for the Neo, besides that, the Neo cannot bring in enough money to keep the operators alive.

The home systems are overpowering in terms of processing and demand. It's smaller, can be played on any TV set virtually and once the internet capabilities become full fledged, you can kiss the arcade market goodbye. Why go to an arcade and fork out quarters when you can play against someone across the country in your own home? That is the question most people will ask themselves. I do play in some heavy tourneys, so that's why I go, but besides a gamer like me, most will opt to stay indoors.

I salute Kawasaki's enthusiasm to succeed and will support him anyway I can, since the Neo has always been my fave, but he's stepping foot in at a bad time. Time will tell, and I hope I'm wrong about he arcade market. The Crystals system is neat, but like the Hyper 64, it's way behind the times.

This time around though, Kawasaki is being very cautious. I'm in it all the way to support him.

A new home console from SNK would be great. however i do not want it to happen yet because SNK (or what ever the hell you want to call the now) must wise up and play thier cards right. they have SOOOOO many quality properties that they could just port to other systems and make A shit load on. I still wish i could have games like NITD, sengoku 1-3, top hunter, spinmasters, etc on my game boy advance (as well as my dreamcast. that code put on to those carts is garaunteed money, but SNK was always to dumb and stubborn to realize that.
still, if they come back I hope to hell they release more neo cd games sooner or later. I know it will probably NEVER happen but that is my one dying wish =(

O.K. folks...here what SNK NEEDS to do...

TAKE THE SEGA ROUTE!!!!!!!

Keep making Arcade games and games for OTHER consoles!!!!!!

Put KoF 2K1 on PS2, XB and GC!!! smane with KoF 2K and all the other games!!!

BECOME A SOFTWARE COMPANY!!!

They will make MORE sales and get MORE market!!!

(I wish SNK,SEGA and Nintendo would team up and do a console to get rid of Sony and keep Uncle Bill in PC's where he belongs!!!)

I like that idea, Mycah.

If SNK were to get the game out on all the 3 main systems, it would sell more. Releasing a new home system would be kind of chancey at this time.

When SNK brought the original NGHC unit out, it blew away any other home system. If a Crystal system came out for the home in 2002, it would unfortunately be outshined by the power of existing home systems. Follow Sega's lead, SNK.