Nightmare in the Dark Home Cart News....

Check out the E-mail I received from NGF. Looks like a home cart will be coming!!!

Here's some good news for all NeoGeo AES fans and supporters.

NGF has signed the exclusive agreement contracts
that will lock us in for the EXCLUSIVE "USA TERRITORY"
release of "Nightmare in the Dark" if we meet the criteria stipulations.
This will not be offered by any other distributor, since the contracts have
already been signed. It's now a matter of numbers and we feel we can
make those numbers a reality with full support from the fans.
Now it's about "do or die" to make this happen.

Here are some details.....

NGF first reported an this game on Sep 24, 2000. www.neogeofreak.com/neonews.html

Some people didn't think it was for real, but now everyone
has "finally" gotten the word 4 months later from other sources.
"NGF first with the news and 4 months ahead of the rest!"

The game is scheduled to be shipped on AES April 27, 2001.

This game will not have a Japanese release.
This is one of the new steps by NGF and SNK/Aruze to refuel
the NeoGeo AES market outside of Japan. We at NGF feel that
we can sell this cartridge as successfully as our KoF2000 release.

Nightmare in the Dark will be the FIRST "English only" game
on the Neo AES, but definitely not the last, as we at NGF
plan to release all future Neo titles on AES format.
SNK as no future plan of releasing more AES titles at this time,
but NGF feels that the we know the market well enough to support
it ourselves, and make all games available to the Neo fans.
NGF will be the only future source of official English NeoGeo AES releases.

If retailers no longer want to support the NeoGeo AES, and would rather
stick with all the "next generation systems" - that is still fine by us.
All NeoGeo AES titles will be available direct through NGFUSA.com and
NeoGeoFreak.com.

The future of the NeoGeo looks bright with NGF keeping it alive.
NGF is willing to release all games, so people can feel free to contact us
directly. We will continue to support the NeoGeo AES and the Neo fans even
if SNK and other retailers don't feel it is viable. We still feel the NeoGeo
is very
important and we are keeping up in our efforts to have full production of
all Neo games
being released.

thank you,

Dion
NGF-USA
NeoGeoFreak

what kind of price are we talking?

Sorry, if it's coming from NGF I'm not Interested.

I'm with BB, NGF=no sale. SNK direct or nothing at all.

Lee (garg7) http://www.neogeotemple.com

Thanks for that "objective" third party post, "Anthony", aka "Neo Fan". One of the last of the NGF lackeys lurking around here . . .

As a response to "Dion's" message (although I know he'd certainly never send such a message to me, hehe): sure, I'll buy your NITD "AES" "English" "home cart".

But of course, you understand that you can't be trusted, so I'll only pay for it via iescrow. That way, you don't actually get any money until you've shipped product. No product for me, no money for you. Fair deal, eh?

I'm sure you can understand the reasoning there, pure and simple reputation and reliability, thats all. No offense intended.

And also, let's put a reasonable cap on the price of the game while we're at it . . . say, about $99 per cart. That should be fair enough for price . . . after all, this is an older cart, low meg count, not high in demand, etc. etc.

Oh, and finally, can you keep the ugly www.NeoGeoFreak.com URL off the back of the insert? We all know that it ruined the value of your "English" KOF 2000 "AES" cart, right? I mean, no one wanted the cart (well, ALMOST no one . . . hehe) after they saw the ugly thing marring the back. How many did you actually sell of your super-low-production run, 4? Maybe 5?

I'm sure you learned your lesson on that one, just leave the official SNK stuff on the back . . . looks a lot cleaner, and doesn't ruin the value of the cart, everyone's happier.

Sound fair enough? Good, then we'll look forward to your "AES" release of NITD . . .

THIS IS COMPLETE AND UTTER BULLSHIT!!!!!!!! SURE NITEMARES COMEING FOR MVS..BUT THIS NGF SHIT IS A LAST DITCH EFFORT TO KEEP THERE DOWNHILL BIZ ALIVE....I SAY ILL GO WITHOUT....FUCK NGF.....

NGF refused to sell Shawn a large order of KOF2000 because they wouldn't accept I-Escrow.

That is what turned me off since day 1.

NGF - if I were in political power I'd lock all your asses away.

Then Bubba in Cell 3 could elect you two the new Mayors of ass rape city.

NGF sux
Dion sux
"steve" sux
NGF supporters suc

Originally posted by Big Bruno:
Sorry, if it's coming from NGF I'm not Interested.

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Well, with that attitude, I guess there won't be a NitD home cart. I for one would like to see it. If NGF has the US rights, they are probably the only ones who can make the game. If no one cares to support them, so be it, we all lose on the home cart possibility. That is unless someone else can have it made.

Anthony

I'm sure alot more people would buy NITD homecart from Dion if they knew that ugly NGF logo wouldnt be on the back insert like it was on 2K

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Originally posted by Caris Nautilus:
I'm sure alot more people would buy NITD homecart from Dion if they knew that ugly NGF logo wouldnt be on the back insert like it was on 2K

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It can't hurt to ask him to do that. If enough people did, maybe they would leave it off?

Anthony

If it's coming from Neo Geo freak Period I wouldn't buy it.

But really think about it.

kof 2000 had a 10,000 cart run and came out at $332. Then your cutting out the whole world except for the US and people wanting to export from the US. Not to mention No retailer will touch thier products. The only cart NGF is going to come out with will either be a conversion or a extermly Limited cart run and they do the manuals. Nothing NGF will every be in my collection.

For me, by april I will pick the game on MVS if not sooner. And if all goes well I will be playing it on my convertor and CAB.

Would I like to see a homecart release of NITD. YES, And I would buy it...but if it's coming from NGF you never know what you are getting and for thier attitude and disrespect of the Neo I would never buy anything from them.

These are my own views for my own reasons. If someone agrees fine. if Some disagrees fine. But No one will change my mind.

Probably another of those 1000 $ MVS converts. No thanks. No official SNK, then i dont want it. If this wont be released by SNK themselfs as home cart, then i'll buy the MVS.

Unless offcourse we can convince NCS to bring out the japanese version. To make
the difference between a MVS converted NGF cart and a original very clear.


LastResort

After the storm which is about to break about the USA NGF 2k cart being fake, No one is gonna buy anything from NGF thats claimed to be official....

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[This message has been edited by Caris Nautilus (edited January 10, 2001).]

Originally posted by Caris Nautilus:
After the storm which is about to break about the USA NGF 2k cart being fake, No one is gonna buy anything from NGF thats claimed to be official....

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The KOF2000 US version can not be determined as being fake at this time. Please re-read my report for the ONLY definite conclusions and I beg you to avoid jumping to immediate assumptions.

With regards to NitD: this will be the key to the NGH production in the future. If NGF-USA can secure exclusive distribution rights for ANY NGH version of the game, this will show that they indeed have the contacts at SNK-Japan to produce official merchandise. Even if this merchandise is printed at a different factory than the one used by SNK-Japan for prior releases, it will still be official if it is translated by SNK-Japan and if the printed material graphic files are prepared by SNK-Japan. This is currently the last issue being examined by myself and others: whether the graphic files used in the KOF2000 US insert and manual are manufactured and provided by SNK-Japan.

With regards to the NGF-USA information on the printed materials, I can justify their request for contact info on the printed materials in light of similar behavior by SNK-USA, Apple Photo Systems, and the French distributors in the past. However, in the event that this release proves(*) to be NGF-USA exclusive as authorized by SNK-Japan, it would indeed justify the mentioning of said information on SNK-Japan's website as well as official news releases regarding the production of the home cart for NitD.

Sincerely,

Kale

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I would rather be locked in a dungeon and forced to play KOF '95 on the PlayStation than buy any bootleg cart from NGF.

-BioMotor_Unitron

Originally posted by BioMotor_Unitron:
I would rather be locked in a dungeon and forced to play KOF '95 on the PlayStation than buy any bootleg cart from NGF.

-BioMotor_Unitron

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HAHAHAHAHA, lol Oh man KOF 95 on the PSX is a bad punishment. Almost as bad as Samurai 3 on PSX...

True, if I REALLY wanted to torment myself, I would play Samurai ShoDown III on my PSX. I actually own that game. It came in a bundle pack with that incredible fighter by LucasArts; Star Wars: Masters Of Total Krap...er, I mean, Masters Of Teras Kesi, or whatever.

I ought to get rid of that SS3 PSX game, but I kind of feel sorry for it, like you might a three-legged, one-eyed dog that turned up on your doorstep. Thank the gawds I only payed $10.00 for the two of those games together, new.

-BioMotor_Unitron

I want to see the signed contracts.

Jeff

Originally posted by BioMotor_Unitron:
True, if I REALLY wanted to torment myself, I would play Samurai ShoDown III on my PSX. I actually own that game. It came in a bundle pack with that incredible fighter by LucasArts; Star Wars: Masters Of Total Krap...er, I mean, Masters Of Teras Kesi, or whatever.

I ought to get rid of that SS3 PSX game, but I kind of feel sorry for it, like you might a three-legged, one-eyed dog that turned up on your doorstep.

Thank the gawds I only payed $10.00 for the two of those games together, new.

-BioMotor_Unitron

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I remember back when I was first in my local games store and I saw that game WAY back, And I got to play SS 3 on PSX, Man was that game so horrible, Animation was cut to hell, Slow down when you jumped ect.

It was a really bad port...



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Originally posted by JMKurtz:
I want to see the signed contracts.

Jeff

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True, Since SNK seems to be of no help in this matter, They couldn't even offer some statement about Dions 2k cart.

If Dion wants people to accept the authenticity of all these carts he's going to be bringing out, He should put some official documents up on his site about this.

It would make people more at ease to buy them. Especially since he claims there will be no jap version of NitD



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Originally posted by Neo Fan:
It can't hurt to ask him to do that. If enough people did, maybe they would leave it off?

Anthony

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And if we click our heels toghter, and wish REEEEEEEAL hard, I'm sure we'll get back to Kansas. Come on everyone, clap your hands if you believe.

Originally posted by Neo Fan:
Well, with that attitude, I guess there won't be a NitD home cart. I for one would like to see it. If NGF has the US rights, they are probably the only ones who can make the game. If no one cares to support them, so be it, we all lose on the home cart possibility. That is unless someone else can have it made.

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Is it okay if I call you "Sybil"??

If it was important enough to the entire Neo Geo community to get this game made for home cart, then someone else would also take the time to supply it. Just like !Arcade! went ahead and made a working version of that Irritating Maze game. All this supposed support you swing to your "fanboys" is utter garbage... I SERIOUSLY hope that you don't think that these well known bootleggers are in the market to help extend the shelf life of the Neo Geo. It was proven many moons ago that they only do the things they do to be an annoyance, and to make a quick buck from naive souls such as yourself who believe every word they say... all because they have access to games, a great knack for creating rumors and have a web page.

If you want to believe this whole thing that NGF is going to be some sort of savior to the US Neo Geo scene, then so be it. Just remember... this is probably the only representation of the scene as you will see. And most people don't consider ANY news from NGF to be good news, if not at all "believable".

It would be cool to see NITD come out on Neo Geo Cart... but 95% of the community would never stoop to the level of getting the game if it meant having to deal with some of the most negative, ignorant, egotistical people that hurt the scene as much as they try to "help" it. If NGF turns out to be the only source for me to get US carts, then I think it's about time that I actually started to learn how to read Kanji. If NCS (or any other respectable dealer) won't sell it, then there's no need for me to consider it.

Besides... NITD isn't a fighter... WHY IN THE NAME OF GOD WOULD I WANT IT? hee hee hee...

Enough said... keep your supposed "NGF Rumors" out of here. No one is interested in supporting them... and we don't consider it "news". It's more of a plague than anything... a complete waste of valuable time and ASCII... just like this rambling rant. OK, I'll stop now!

NGF(I'm starting to feel bad/sick about typeing that word) is basicly useing the situation. There will not be any more official games to the Neo Geo so NGF (*!#¤) is trying to make they'r own games or make some odd conversions to the Neo just that the "collectors" would feel that they'r collection is not complete. Or that this game they are releaceing is rare and in limited edition. So the "collectors" feel that they need to buy this. Even when it's just crap. But we must see that those games are not any official releaces. It's just an home made product wich is useing the Neo Geo name to promote it self!

Huuuuu..

Well, the NGF involvement seals the deal for me. I won't even consider it. I mentioned to NCS (when they asked for Neo feedback) that I would prefer no home cart release to a NGF release. I'll pick up an MVS cart instead.

Brent