This sucks

I know many of us were trying to pick up the Metal Slug US Cart on ebay but the seller cancelled the auction and sold to an outside party:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1205149694

I hope whoever got it is a collector and not a reseller who is going to hike the price up and sell to the desparate people out there. I know its a free market and all but dammit this makes me mad!

More and more this has been happening on Ebay. I think Ebay needs to do something about this behaviour, maybe add a stat for bid cancellations much like they do for bid retractions....



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Keith

I fully agree with that idea keith... Also, I believe that you should not be penalized for dealing with sellers you have already had a good transaction with. For if you do, your feedback does not go up at all Maybe we should send a letter!

-Nick

I bid on it too. Then the seller pulls the plug - oh well. I will need this money for Reno.

How do you know the person sold the game to outside party?

ITS CALL FEE AVOIDANCE FOLKS AND ITS AGAINST EBAY RULES.

Just send a friendly letter to billing@ebay.com carbon copy to support@ebay.com telling them that this person cancled the bids and openly admits to selling outside of ebay. Any time you see this happening, its called fee avoidence, and to ebay its like a fart in church, it mans the person made money, and a buyer, and didnt give ebay SQUAT. Ebay isnt free for the 90% who use it legitimatly, it shouldnt be for this a-hole either.

http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=1205149694&ed=978597328


Here is the proof, they admit it. And its not the FIRST time either. Im not bidding on Devilmans auctions in the future... He likes NGF anyway.

I guess this seller didn't want to sell his cart. He only wants everybody know that he had Metal Slug homecart for sale (which is super rare) and he hopes he'll get a very hard collector who is willing to pay for $2000!! There is no fee cause eBay is free, isn't it?? Damn I hate this kind of guy !!

Originally posted by Wan-Fu:
I know many of us were trying to pick up the Metal Slug US Cart on ebay but the seller cancelled the auction and sold to an outside party:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1205149694

I hope whoever got it is a collector and not a reseller who is going to hike the price up and sell to the desparate people out there. I know its a free market and all but dammit this makes me mad!

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I know people aren't crazy about this practice but it is LEGAL. An auction is a binding agreement ONLY when the auction ends. Therefore the seller has the right to remove bids as necessary if he has decided to sell the item to another buyer outside of e-bay. However, whether the seller has another buyer is debatable in all instances.

Besides, because of the fact that there is NO binding agreement before auction end, you could look at the ebay auction like a newspaper classified: The owner of the classified doesn't have to sell what he has at any price, and the buyer doesn't have to buy (obviously).

Also, do you really want to leave negative feedback for those sellers who cancel bids? I sure don't, because my rating would be in the negatives, that's for sure. I can't tell you how many people have bid on multiple auctions of a certain item, and it just happens that those deadbeat bidders will only honor the lowest price that he can get an item at. In these instances, I look for buyers who have patterns of bidding for the same item in multiple auctions. If they attempt to participate in my auction, I cancel their bid.

I'm not saying the concept of the seller cancelling bids is perfect, but it has its pluses.

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[This message has been edited by G! (edited January 05, 2001).]

A seller may cancel some bids if he does not want to deal with certain individuals but canceling the whole auction and selling to an outside party is a rotten thing to do. It is equivalent to using ebay for advertising which is definitely against the rules.

The worst part of this from a collector perspective is that the person who got the item is likely a reseller and will artificially raise the price now. Ebay is a fair and legitimate way for buyers to determine the price of rare items in a competitive manner and this type of behavior is circumventing the whole concept of fair market value.

Originally posted by snkmania:
I guess this seller didn't want to sell his cart. He only wants everybody know that he had Metal Slug homecart for sale (which is super rare) and he hopes he'll get a very hard collector who is willing to pay for $2000!! There is no fee cause eBay is free, isn't it?? Damn I hate this kind of guy

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Its just htis kind of thing that makes me really mad... I am a full time seller, and I get about a 30% back out bidder rate... EBAY IS NOT FREE!!!!!!!


IT COSTS MONEY TO LIST ITEMS ON EBAY. They charge you to place the add, and then they take upto 5% OF YOUR SALE. I Spend DAMN NEAR $1000 with ebay each month, and people go around screwing me over, thinking its free.
BACKOUTS DO HARM TO GOOD PEOPLE. Ebay refunds only the % and never the listing on a back out (not even in a relist), so 100 back out bidders can mean upto $200 IN LOSSES. It sucks.

Its just htis kind of thing that makes me really mad... I am a full time seller, and I get about a 30% back out bidder rate... EBAY IS NOT FREE!!!!!!!


IT COSTS MONEY TO LIST ITEMS ON EBAY. They charge you to place the add, and then they take upto 5% OF YOUR SALE. I Spend DAMN NEAR $1000 with ebay each month, and people go around screwing me over, thinking its free.
BACKOUTS DO HARM TO GOOD PEOPLE. Ebay refunds only the % and never the listing on a back out (not even in a relist), so 100 back out bidders can mean upto $200 IN LOSSES. It sucks.


Ok, my fault's. I'm not a seller so I dunno about eBay fee, cause I bid on it free at all. My point is you'll get the same pain if you're a seller and your bidder retract his bid at the last time. This is the same feeling with this case I think.

Yeah I got what you were trying to say... and Im not pissed at you at all Im just mad at the fact that ebay hids it from the general buyer, they should be stating big and bold, YOU COST THE PEOPLE YOU SCREW OVER BY NOT PAYING THEM.... To many people have the illusion its free to sellers... ebay is huge, and they have to make money some how, they make it by charging an arm and a leg to the sellers.

Yeah, it's not fair. I experienced similar things as a bidder, and it is frustaring to see that you took your effort and time to bid and track the item. And, as a seller, I was offered more cash/better trade to end the auction earlier. Still, I have yet to end my bid early. It is not fair to the bidders. I don't want to be the devils advocate, but what would happen if you know that the final auction price would probably be $1000, but you were offered $1500+? I would like to think that I am somewhat decent, but even I maybe tempted...

As long as you adhear to the terms of the auction service, and if you do end it early, you dont cancle out all the bids, and the offical buyer is the high bidder when you close it, there is no problem. Some people would feel bad, but it wouldnt be rule breaking.