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Blaine
09-03-2002, 05:22 PM
No joke, no exageration.

Illegal. It is now illegal to own, not just play but OWN, a video game within the country of Greece.

I'm sure people in Greece are well aware of this and most of Europe is up-to-date but many may not be, so if you're planning a trip leave everything.

No Gameboy.
No PC if there is a game on it.
No VMU's (if you're like me, you have tetris or pac-man on it)
NO CELL PHONES if they have a game on it, even dice.

Don't even try to play a web game.

So far they're just arresting people playing in public, they aren't raiding people's homes and most likely the law will be ammended before it comes to that. As is right now it's just a poorly poorly poorly written law designed to prevent gambling ( <img src="graemlins/spock.gif" border="0" alt="[Spock]" /> ).

So don't risk it, they WILL throw you in jail and fine you.

I feel bad for Greek Gamers, hopefully this will be fixed very soon.

<a href="http://msnbc-cnet.com.com/2100-1040-956357.html?type=pt&part=msnbc&tag=alert&form=feed&subj=cnetnews" target="_blank">Link</a>

JonathanDonovan
09-03-2002, 05:27 PM
I felt a distubance, as if millions of gamers cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced.

[ September 03, 2002: Message edited by: JonathanDonovan ]</p>

NeoGoaT
09-03-2002, 05:31 PM
I read this earlier on MM Cafe, is it really true? This is a huge infringement of human rights, I dont see how they can justify it. Imagine if this law was introduced in your country, the entire collection would have to be sacrificed or face confiscation. Could you even comprehend the pain of losing a Neo collection, whatever the size and the nightmare of trying to recover it from the government if/when the law is ammended. That's some serious bad news and Greece is off my list of possible holiday destinations.

Blaine
09-03-2002, 05:37 PM
[quote]Originally posted by NeoGoaT:
<strong>I read this earlier on MM Cafe, is it really true? This is a huge infringement of human rights, I dont see how they can justify it. Imagine if this law was introduced in your country, the entire collection would have to be sacrificed or face confiscation. </strong><hr></blockquote>

It's very true. I remember reading about this bill earlier this year, I laughed...never thought it would be passed. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if I posted this in Unrelated when I saw it...I don't care enough to go and check, but it may be in there somewhere.

Thier justification is the government admitted that they are unable to determine the difference between a computer game being played for entertainment or one being played for profit.

As far as people losing thier collection, I'm an optimist, I'm thinking with the bad publicity that this law is getting...world wide...that they'll modify it so that it really does only cover gambling devices.

Because I can't agree more. I wanted to go to Ikaria with my buddy Luke (he's Greek) and I was always a little...not to sure because he even says most Greeks hate Americans, but now there's no way in hell I'll go.

I can't even fathom no video games. I mean, I can only play poker and board games for so long, you know?

BUSTA_WOLF
09-03-2002, 05:39 PM
its times like these i'm glad i don't live in Greece <img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" />

Amano Jacu
09-03-2002, 05:40 PM
Come on, this must be a joke. I think is totally unconstitutional.
Just for the record, I wen there last year and I brought my Neo Geo Pocket Color. I played it in public in the ship that brought us from Athens
to Mikonos. And nobody was disturbed.
Check <a href="http://www.gameland.gr/" target="_blank">http://www.gameland.gr/</a> for more info

NeoGoaT
09-03-2002, 05:44 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Blaine:
<strong> I can't even fathom no video games.</strong><hr></blockquote>
You said it, the mind boggles. How long will it take them to recover, all arcades closed, video game stores shut down, internet cafes policed (literally) etc etc. I thought China blocking google was heavy handed but this makes the Chinese government look like cuddly teddy bears.

There'll be a hell of a lot of frustrated Counterstrike/GTA3 addicts walking the streets looking for a fix, I smell trouble.

Blaine
09-03-2002, 05:45 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Amano Jacu:
<strong>Come on, this must be a joke. I think is totally unconstitutional.
Just for the record, I wen there last year and I brought my Neo Geo Pocket Color. I played it in public in the ship that brought us from Athens
to Mikonos. And nobody was disturbed.
Check <a href="http://www.gameland.gr/" target="_blank">http://www.gameland.gr/</a> for more info</strong><hr></blockquote>

According to your and my constitution, maybe...but Greece's? Everyone has different laws.

And I think you would have been fine last year since the law was only passed at the end of July.

If it is a joke...it's a long running one because I swear as god as my witness, and most people here will validate that I have a facility for remembering little things like this, that I heard about this earlier in the year.

I may not always be able to remember where I read things, but I do remember them. :) .

Zizzer
09-03-2002, 05:53 PM
The actual law:

"Categories:

A. Mechanical games are those, for whose operation it is necessary to
use muscle force.

B. Electrical games are those, for whose operation it is necessary to be dependent on electrical mechanisms.

C. Electromechanical games are those, for whose operation it is necessary to be dependent on electrical mechanisms AND use muscle
force.

D. Electronical games are those, for whose operation it is necessary to be dependent on electrical mechanisms that also have some
calculating (accounting) program.

E. Entertainment "technical" games are those, whose result depends exclusively on the ability and skill of the player, and its use is
solely for entertainment."


Only types B,C,D will be banned. A and E will not be banned unless people are betting on them

"Article 2:

1. It is prohibited the operation of games of type "b", " c" and "d"
of Article 1 (including in personal computers) placed in public places
such as hotels, cafeterias, organization halls and inside any other
public or PRIVATE place.

2. The Mechanical games, are only permitted to be Entertainment
"technical", as defined in the previous Article. Regarding those
games, it is prohibited to make any bets between any persons or to
include any financial gain for any of the players involved. Such bets
will attract penalties described in Articles 4 and 5."


In paragraph 2 of article 2, mechanical games are
only permitted to be "Entertainment Technical", otherwise Type E.


Mike

[ September 03, 2002: Message edited by: Zizzer ]</p>

Atro
09-03-2002, 06:04 PM
Years back, France had wanted to finish the video games on their country. Hopefully Magazines like Consoles+, Joystick, Joypad, Generation4 didn't let this happen.

But FUCK ! Is that true ? I can't stand on a stupid law like that one.

If I was greek, right now I would have to move to the neighbour country.

I can live without games, but fuck! This is stupid, I like to play man!

Hmmm.... by the way, does any greek reading this have a mint copy of Ninja Masters/Neo Turf Masters/Metal Slug US for sale ? I heard that you can't have games.

50 Bucks each. deal ? :D

Blaine
09-03-2002, 06:10 PM
The only problem there is they've classified all games as 1 of 5 types.

The legal games:

Mechanical, which is defined as a game that uses muscle force...which is a game such as soccer or golf.

And Entertainment Techincal, which I believe refers to games such as chess or role-playing games.

Within those catagories, all video games as we know it are illegal as they are all types B,C and D.

In fact, by the letter of this law, any game requiring electricty or electronic means is illegal.

If it's being blown out of proportion...let someone in Greece deterimine it, because greek websites are confirming arcades are closing.

[ September 03, 2002: Message edited by: Blaine ]</p>

Zizzer
09-03-2002, 06:40 PM
Yeah that does suck, I can now understand public arcades closing and other such matters. But, from the way I take it, you can have an arcade or game system in your house as long as you don't plan to make money off of it. Not sure if you could walk around with a Neo Geo Pocket, maybe you'd be confined to playing in it privately owned property

Atro
09-03-2002, 07:22 PM
I'm sure that the government deputies sons have videogames in their houses.

With that law, they are only making people attitude turn to fuck and do sports. Watching TV ? Bah! Boring as hell.

Poor Greece. Nice Country, poor laws. :(

Blaine
09-03-2002, 07:29 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Zizzer:
<strong>But, from the way I take it, you can have an arcade or game system in your house as long as you don't plan to make money off of it. Not sure if you could walk around with a Neo Geo Pocket, maybe you'd be confined to playing in it privately owned property</strong><hr></blockquote>

"1. It is prohibited the operation of games of type "b", " c" and "d" of Article 1 (including in personal computers) placed in public places such as hotels, cafeterias, organization halls and inside any other public or PRIVATE place."

Prohibited in pubic or private places, pretty much makes it everywhere. It says nothing about making money or not making money.

Not to be an asshole, but you posted this yourself. Did you read it? I have no problem with people disagreeing with me but you said everything was 'totally false' and then posted the law, which just confirms what I said. I really couldn't care less except there are people on these boards who don't always bother to read things for themselves, or even try to understand them. So by you saying "This says the sky is red" and then posting something that explains why the sky is blue, people will just assume it means "the sky is red" without reading it.

That's neither here nor there, but I just want people to know that according to this law, all electronic games are illegal in Greece, on public or private property. It's illegal the same way heroin is illegal in the US. Illegal period.

One could possibly argue that the board game Operation is an illegal device the question of the nature of the 'skill' involved could be brought up, but since video games are not exempt...I don't see how Operation would be.
As of right now there is no action against games on private property but, according to the law, they can.

And it makes no distinction from an arcade cab, console, handheld or videogame watch.

[ September 03, 2002: Message edited by: Blaine ]</p>

Zizzer
09-03-2002, 07:50 PM
Yeah, I'm beginning to think you're right. I'm a bit confused by this though:

"E. Entertainment "technical" games are those, whose result depends exclusively on the ability and skill of the player, and its use is solely for entertainment."

What type of games is this referring to, what's a technical game? something such as a board game?
An arcade game like Pac-Man could, in part, be classified as a technical game as your skill is what determines if you win or lose. However, I understand that it does run on electricity, which would mean it is banned according to article "A", but what does the law refer to in stating an "electrical mechanism"? Would mechanism refer to the fact that it consumes electricty, or does mechanism rather refer to a device that has moving parts that are dependant on electricity?

In any case, I'd like to find out the rationing behind this entire law.


Mike

[ September 03, 2002: Message edited by: Zizzer ]

[ September 03, 2002: Message edited by: Zizzer ]</p>

Blaine
09-03-2002, 07:59 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Zizzer:
<strong>Yeah, I'm beginning to think you're right. I'm a bit confused by this though:

"E. Entertainment "technical" games are those, whose result depends exclusively on the ability and skill of the player, and its use is solely for entertainment."

What type of games is this referring to, what's a technical game?
</strong><hr></blockquote>

I believe that catagory refers to games such as chess, backgammon, scrabble...basically board games and related games, actually due to it's specific language where the other ones are vague the one game I immediately thought it was reffering to was poker. It's the only game catagory that specifically re-iterates 'no gambling'. Therefore one would have to assume that catagory contains games that could be used for gambling ends.

Do I know this for sure? No, the english copy of the law is pretty vague and I'm no lawyer.

But if you have to take all of the 'games' in the universe and catagorize them by these 5 different choices...chess isn't electronic, really doesn't require 'muscle' and since it's a technical skill game, it has to be the latter.


[quote]Originally posted by Zizzer:
<strong>In any case, I'd like to find out the rationing behind this entire law.</strong><hr></blockquote>

The Greek Government admitted they are unable to tell the difference between an electronic game that is used for gambling and one that is used for entertainment.

Which is why they've said no electronic games.

I honestly don't think this will stay this way forever, surely they'll ammend the law further to at least protect the right for private citizens to own and play games.

Zizzer
09-03-2002, 08:05 PM
[quote] I honestly don't think this will stay this way forever, surely they'll ammend the law further to at least protect the right for private citizens to own and play games.
<hr></blockquote>

Agreed, otherwise half of Greece would probably wind up in jail for playing solitaire in Windows.

Mike

VanillaThunder
09-03-2002, 08:21 PM
Now in greece, they're not just for fucking you in the ass anymore... now it's your collection too! ouch!

K9999
09-03-2002, 09:02 PM
They always have Chinese Checkers to fall back on.

buster_broon
09-03-2002, 09:11 PM
didnt australia ban gta3 unless they took out all the gore

Imagine gta3 with out:

any killing at all

its like playing mortal kombat without the fatalities :mad:

NeoLord
09-03-2002, 09:15 PM
[quote] Blaine wrote:
The Greek Government admitted they are unable to tell the difference between an electronic game that is used for gambling and one that is used for entertainment.

Which is why they've said no electronic games. <hr></blockquote>


Ignorance is bliss! <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" />

The Auction Sniper
09-03-2002, 09:24 PM
That is the most fecked up thing I've EVER heard, seriously.

I predict a population drop of 45% if things don't get sorted out to proper sanity there (I wouldn't blame anyone for migrating overseas!).

I wonder what the penalty is for playing Pokemon?

$hockwave
09-03-2002, 09:26 PM
that is a dam shame it reminds me of the time a couple of months ago in the state of georgia if you had a gambling machine in the stae of georgia you where fined but that is just a step closer to banning video games in this state but why ban gambling video games when you can play the georgia lottery and the anwser is imo the goverment cannot make any profit well anyway back to the subject that really sucks the greece goverment needs to get thier heads examind if they cannot tell the differince between a game for entertanment and gambling.

less than joseph
09-03-2002, 09:41 PM
haha....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA. OMFG BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

-joseph

vincewy
09-03-2002, 10:06 PM
You got to be kidding, Greece is not Afghanistan, after all, Greece is a member of EU, wonder if Brussel should cancel Greek membership for this.

Evil Wasabi
09-03-2002, 10:13 PM
NUKE GREESE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MistressDragon
09-03-2002, 10:49 PM
are you serious? pretty soon they'll be banning television. They're simply ignorant. Pointing fingers at things to blame for their problems..when they should be dealing with it a different way. I'm so glad we live in the united states of america. Let freedome of video games RING! ;) LOL :cool:

Blaine
09-04-2002, 12:01 AM
I've read at a couple places, specifically Retrogames, that the law only applies to gambling devices.

Unless the english version of the law is wrong then this is not the case. The only games which are exempt for the 'purposes of entertainment', that are explicitly exempt, are the Technical and Skill games (exempt in it's definition) and Mechanical/Muscle games (exempt within Article 2).

At no point in the whole of the document do types B,C and D (D being video games) get mention of exemption.

The best part is, in attempts to curb gambling, they've made video games illegal. But since Poker consistutes a card game and all card games are exempt, it's perfectly legal to play poker, black jack or whatever you feel like.

So unless there's a grotesque mistake in the translation of the law, or if I'm simply missing something (again, not a lawyer)...there is no clause, statement or article that says type D games are legal for entertainment purposes.

Here's a link to the law:

<a href="http://www4.tpg.com.au/users/pantazis/law.txt" target="_blank">Law</a>

and for shits a giggles an english translation of a Greek Newspaper detailing that Internet Cafe's will be allowed to remain open provided no games are played on it. So let's say you're caught play an online Chess game (which if you remember is legal as a type E game, that is as a board game) will result in a fine between 5,000 and 75,000 Euro's as well as 1-12 months in jail for the player.

The cafe would then be shut down.

<a href="http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_politics_100020_30/05/2002_17011" target="_blank">Kathimerini</a>

I've been wrong before, hopefully I'm wrong again.

CheapNeoGeo
09-04-2002, 12:43 AM
Whoever thought of this law needs their head checked. This law is so broad that it covers all video games and that is screwing the gaming world over big time in Greece. I mean what if you own an arcade and that is your way of making a living and now you have to close it because probably some high official lost a bunch of money playing video poker or they got their butt kicked playing Samurai Shodown and they got pissed and decided that if they can't play video games well then no one at all will play them! I smell trouble because you know how Neo Geo fans get if they can not show off their great skills at a local arcade.

nick_th_fury
09-04-2002, 12:46 AM
[quote] They're simply ignorant. Pointing fingers at things to blame for their problems.. <hr></blockquote>

Sounds like an American tradition to me.
Guess we have more in common with the Europeans than I thought.

Harry Hazard
09-04-2002, 01:19 AM
I dont believe this at all..
I was in Greece in August and there was lot of
arcades even some neo. If it is true ,it must
be one of those laws nobody cares to follow,
Greece is by the way one of the nicest countrys
in the world.. you all should go..

Blaine
09-04-2002, 01:25 AM
[quote]Originally posted by Harry Hazard:
<strong>I dont believe this at all..
I was in Greece in August and there was lot of
arcades even some neo. If it is true ,it must
be one of those laws nobody cares to follow,
Greece is by the way one of the nicest countrys
in the world.. you all should go..</strong><hr></blockquote>

From the looks of it at gameland.gr the law was presented in July, passed in August and only took effect at the very end of August.

In fact on the 2nd of September the news post says the law was accepted 'a few days ago' and I wouldn't be surprised if Greece was similar to the US in some of it's law changes...that the changes don't take effect until the 1st of the next month.

As far as the Greek government blaming anything on anyone, they're not saying video games are the cause of anything, it's just that thier anti-gambling law is so broad that all forms of electronic games are illegal.

Harry Hazard
09-04-2002, 02:37 AM
[quote]Originally posted by Blaine:
<strong>

From the looks of it at gameland.gr the law was presented in July, passed in August and only took effect at the very end of August.

In fact on the 2nd of September the news post says the law was accepted 'a few days ago' and I wouldn't be surprised if Greece was similar to the US in some of it's law changes...that the changes don't take effect until the 1st of the next month.

As far as the Greek government blaming anything on anyone, they're not saying video games are the cause of anything, it's just that thier anti-gambling law is so broad that all forms of electronic games are illegal.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Wow. And I thought we had fucked up politics
in Sweden..I dont think the greekes will
accept this at all, I always thought of
Greece as a country of freedom..

Devil_Gans
09-04-2002, 03:21 AM
That was one of the most lamest and stupidest thing i have heard.Even non-violent, kid friendly games are banned.That just sucks REAL bad.A shame considering that videogame technology is advancing and games are also part of entertainment.It would suck donkey balls if the government in my country ever bans videogames.

zz99
09-04-2002, 03:38 AM
Oooops

I'm flying out to one of the Greek islands on Sunday. Guess I won't be taking me Neo Geo Pocket :(

Trouble is I've got one of them Nokias with the snake game on it - doh ! Better make sure I don't play it.

I'll let you know if I see any arcades around the island.

Takumaji
09-04-2002, 03:58 AM
How the Greek feds will enforce these laws is beyond me. They simply can't crawl through any home and look what ppl have on their PCs. And there's always the internet.

Bah, poor Greek gamers. That's really sad.

Guess it's time to set up a Greek gamers' underground army or somethin.

10 in 2010
09-04-2002, 04:04 AM
i an imagine the game-strapped greek's buliding an underground network of tunnels leading to a secret society where they can all play games in peace.

Caprica Orange
09-04-2002, 04:19 AM
Whats next? they gonna arrest people when they play soccer? Cos maybe they change into hooligans LOL

Late
09-04-2002, 05:01 AM
If the law really does hold (of course it won`t )
without any "editing", after a couple of years, one could make good money by smuggling videogames into greece

ZeroMJ
09-04-2002, 05:39 AM
Think of the Everquest addicts! Won't somebody PLEASE think of the Everquest addicts!

Bhm
09-04-2002, 06:46 AM
mbling and all gambling machines or games which involve "prizes". That is basically all. Just checked with a greek friend in Athens

Late
09-04-2002, 07:04 AM
[quote]Originally posted by Bhm:
<strong>mbling and all gambling machines or games which involve "prizes". That is basically all. Just checked with a greek friend in Athens</strong><hr></blockquote>

what is mbling?

Phoenix Down
09-04-2002, 08:21 AM
Yep, it just goes to show that in this world there's no such thing as a stupid question, just stupid people.

I'm sure they'll probably find some way to blame all the wars between Athens and Sparta 3000 years ago on videogames too. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Bishamon
09-04-2002, 09:03 AM
[quote]Originally posted by JonathanDonovan:
<strong>I felt a distubance, as if millions of gamers cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced.

</strong><hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" />

FeelGood
09-04-2002, 09:35 AM
I can see my dad converting to Greek Orthodox now.

Seriously though - who would want to stop gambling in Greece? Gambling is an awesome magnetic force for tourism. Look at Monte Carlo and Las Vegas. They should put a bunch of slot machines in the Parthenon.

Blaine
09-04-2002, 10:21 AM
[quote]Originally posted by Bhm:
<strong>mbling and all gambling machines or games which involve "prizes". That is basically all. Just checked with a greek friend in Athens</strong><hr></blockquote>

I'd believe you and your friend, but if this was truely the case then why did they have to cancel the CPL CounterStrike tournament in Greece?

I could understand if it was the finals or something where the winner wins a cash prize, but this was a qualifier, all the winners get is an automatic berth in the finals in Oslo.

There's just too many things going on and too many people unhappy for the law to only apply to toy cranes, you know?

Overkill Geyser
09-04-2002, 10:49 AM
You know... I hope the Greek government realized that if they DO ban just about ANYTHING nowadays, it''ll just go underground...

Evil Wasabi
09-04-2002, 10:50 AM
[quote]Originally posted by zz99:
<strong>Oooops

I'm flying out to one of the Greek islands on Sunday. Guess I won't be taking me Neo Geo Pocket :(

Trouble is I've got one of them Nokias with the snake game on it - doh ! Better make sure I don't play it.

I'll let you know if I see any arcades around the island.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Take it just to piss them off.

Fight the power

Distroy the Man

Medaka
09-04-2002, 05:16 PM
Here's a direct quote from one of my greek friends,

"Dont worry.. we are ok.. that law was meant for the gambling.. no matter what really says.. they did that cause last years too much gambling with that Fruit Games like the Casinos has appeared in All Greece... so they had closed all that places when you can go and Gamble.
But even if that was true.. i will risk jail."

Takuma79
09-05-2002, 12:39 AM
oh well I don't think ill be going to greece anytime soon

MistressDragon
09-05-2002, 12:49 AM
[quote]Originally posted by Overkill Geyser:
<strong>You know... I hope the Greek government realized that if they DO ban just about ANYTHING nowadays, it''ll just go underground...</strong><hr></blockquote>

I agree with that..

Tadaima
09-05-2002, 06:52 AM
Isn't there the 666 case, where the incode for credit cards is the number of the beast, and popes are going crazy? Or am I just dreaming this?...

Neo Mike
09-05-2002, 02:16 PM
What are the brothers and I gonna do at the ol' frat house without our Gameboys?

Stop anti-Greek discrimination now!!

The Legendary LoneWolf
09-05-2002, 03:28 PM
is there any Greek guys OR gals ( can't be seen as sexist), that can tell me how strict is this law really, and what are there thoughts on this

Blaine
09-05-2002, 03:40 PM
[quote]Originally posted by The Legendary LoneWolf:
<strong>is there any Greek guys OR gals ( can't be seen as sexist), that can tell me how strict is this law really, and what are there thoughts on this</strong><hr></blockquote>

My main thing is this.

I've heard a lot of people, not just here but elsewhere, who say they've talked to someone in Greece who said it's not that bad.

I believe and want to believe them, but if that's the case why did they HAVE TO cancel the CPL Counterstrike Tournament?

It has absolutely nothing to do with gambling, unless they consider an automatic berth into the finals in Oslo a prize, which I suppose is possible.

Neo Mike
09-06-2002, 01:24 AM
On a serious note, that would suck.

Neo Mike
09-06-2002, 01:29 AM
Nice sig Blaine!

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING......

YOU SOOO STOOPAD!

ShikiMikoto
09-06-2002, 07:57 PM
PEOPLE!

False alarm, Greece allows Video games of all types inlcuding computer games in PRIVATE homes and residences, but not in public places, look at MMCafe now!

Terry Pocket Bogard
09-06-2002, 11:34 PM
Thats a sad discovery Blaine.... I can't imagine a world without them, they are our friends, our companions, sorry I just... I just can't type anymore.....

Caprica Orange
09-13-2002, 05:00 AM
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" />

aria
09-13-2002, 02:04 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Overkill Geyser:
<strong>You know... I hope the Greek government realized that if they DO ban just about ANYTHING nowadays, it''ll just go underground...</strong><hr></blockquote>

Exactly: All the easier to arrest you for. Now it sounds like it'll be up to the whim of the officer (and/or eventually judge) as to whether the game you're publically playing is specifically banned and how the law applies to the situation.

Still, the amount of litigation this poses is ridiculous and I'm sure that after a few months (or heaven forbid, years) this will go the way of American Prohibition (those years in the early half of the 20th century when the US banned booze -that description was for those of you outside the US or educated in the US public school system ;) ).

I think this law will get its biggest crises near the Christmas season. Anybody wonder?

[ September 13, 2002: Message edited by: Bobak ]</p>

Zizzer
09-14-2002, 06:24 PM
"A court in Greece has thrown out the case against two internet cafe owners accused of breaking a law banning computer games."

<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2249656.stm" target="_blank">Whole Story</a>


Mike

VinylBoy
09-14-2002, 10:27 PM
Well.. until this blows over, I guess I won't be making any plans to DJ in Greece if I get invited. Whenever I travel, my laptop (full of game) and either my NGPC, GBA or Turbo Express comes along with me to pass the time. And I'm allergic to jail cells...

JaDaKiSs
09-15-2002, 11:02 AM
[quote]Originally posted by joseph:
<strong>haha....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA. OMFG BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

-joseph</strong><hr></blockquote>

haha that's nuts...

long time no see joe =/

Orochi´s third ancestor
09-17-2002, 11:19 AM
No video games---no life!

FREEDOOOMMM!!
William Walas...should scream if he knows that notice!!