Ack, KOF 2001 fell off the JPN arcade charts this week...

Originally posted by fomaman:
<strong>ditto that, kazuya.

TEKKEN is the shit, and 4 is a masterpiece.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I agree, Tekken IS shit, and 4 is the top of the turd! Ugly, blocky, jerky . . . it just sucks. For 3D games, Soul Calibur and DOA2/3 blow away the ugly jerky Tekken games . . .

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Originally posted by djbomberman:
<strong>What's the deal here, why is Tekken 4 still on the charts? Anyone REALLY play this game? I think it looks like a PS2 port...isn't that an ironic statement.....

I guess 3-D for the most part will always beat 2-D with the masses.......damn sheep.......</strong><hr></blockquote>

Your not to far off the mark on the ps2 thing. Namco's system 246 is in fact a PS2 in a box wired for jamma!! When I got tekken 4 in I almost shit!! it even has controler ports and 2 memory card slots! Tekken 4's kit came with a memory card that namco called a giget...LOL this "giget" had something on it where the game would not load with out the card in its slot!! Wierd Stuff!!

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Originally posted by RyoGeo:
<strong>Guys..."Derby Owners Club 2 (2, no less)" is number one. What does that tell you.

...hopeless. <img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

It's better than the Bemani and DDR games (which are ushually 1)

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Originally posted by Rade Kuruc:
[QB1. Derby Owners Club 2 - Sega
2. Virtua Fighter 4 - Sega
3. Gundam: Federation vs Geon DX - Banpresto
4. Taiko no Tatsujin 2 - Namco
5. Tekken 4 - Namco
6. Midnight - Namco
7. Power Smash 2 - Sega
8. Lupin the 3rd: The Shooting - Sega
9. Virtua Striker 3 - Sega
10. Capcom vs SNK 2 Millionaire Fighting 2001

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Hey now, Lupin III: The Shooting is number 8. It cannot be that bad.

Abyss: Did Tekken 4 come on a disc? Or does 246 use carts? Try the card and disc on a Ps2, and see what happens.

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Originally posted by RyoGeo:
<strong>Guys..."Derby Owners Club 2 (2, no less)" is number one. What does that tell you.

...hopeless. <img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Those horce racing game is really popular in Asia, especially Japan and HK.

I've recently been to Hong Kong, and there's just so many people playing this game, and again very few people plays KOF2001.

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Originally posted by Devil_Gans:
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As for kof 2001,well....i think that there are some people who are getting tired of that game.Not me
It deserves to be up there IMO


[ March 14, 2002: Message edited by: Devil_Gans ]</strong><hr></blockquote>


TRUE!! I've just bought my XBOX and play the games, but still I'll never quit on KOF.

It's the best 2D fighter out there IMHO!!!

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Originally posted by nruva:
<strong>246 is custom hardware, not a multi-system. It is more like developers use a common chip set and layout, but they are all individual boards and not carts or CDs. SEGA and Namco both use different variants of the 246.

-Nick</strong><hr></blockquote>

I am going to have to disagree with ya here Nick. The Namco Systems 246 is deffinately a multi system. At this point there have been several games made for it including Tekken 4, Vampire Night, Ridge Racer 5 Arcade, ect. It has a DVD Rom built in the metal case and to upgrade the games with an update kit you get a new large marquee, all the art and paper work, the DVD rom of the game you are updating to and a new "Giget" with the updated information to allow the game to boot. It was rumored for a while that Soul Calibur 2 maybe coming for this system.

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Originally posted by GamersAbyss:
<strong>

I am going to have to disagree with ya here Nick. The Namco Systems 246 is deffinately a multi system. At this point there have been several games made for it including Tekken 4, Vampire Night, Ridge Racer 5 Arcade, ect. It has a DVD Rom built in the metal case and to upgrade the games with an update kit you get a new large marquee, all the art and paper work, the DVD rom of the game you are updating to and a new "Giget" with the updated information to allow the game to boot. It was rumored for a while that Soul Calibur 2 maybe coming for this system.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I don't know what system Soul Caliber 2 uses, but there was a 60% completed version at ASI. I posted some pics of it somewhere. Let me find it.

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Originally posted by BC_Gambit:
<strong>GamerAbyss:

Wow, I didn't know that Tekken 4 was based THAT much on the PS2!

Do you have any pics of the system?

Sounds kinda funky

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I had 4 new kits for tekken 4 I was selling some time back in chat if I can find the picks I would be happy to post them

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Originally posted by TRIEUMINATOR:
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I don't know what system Soul Caliber 2 uses, but there was a 60% completed version at ASI. I posted some pics of it somewhere. Let me find it.</strong><hr></blockquote>


The arcade version of Soul Cal 2 is and will only be on the 246 hardware.

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Originally posted by Rade Kuruc:
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The arcade version of Soul Cal 2 is and will only be on the 246 hardware.</strong><hr></blockquote>

This would make sence as SC2 is a namco game but namco does have a long history of making stand alone boards as well.

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Originally posted by GamersAbyss:
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I am going to have to disagree with ya here Nick. The Namco Systems 246 is deffinately a multi system. At this point there have been several games made for it including Tekken 4, Vampire Night, Ridge Racer 5 Arcade, ect. It has a DVD Rom built in the metal case and to upgrade the games with an update kit you get a new large marquee, all the art and paper work, the DVD rom of the game you are updating to and a new "Giget" with the updated information to allow the game to boot. It was rumored for a while that Soul Calibur 2 maybe coming for this system.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Hmm that's interesting... I took the information from:

<a href="http://www.system16.com/namco/hrdw_system246.htm" target="_blank">http://www.system16.com/namco/hrdw_system246.htm</a>

Which basicly says this:

"System 246 Hardware

CPU : 128 Bit "Emotion Engine"
· System Clock: 300 MHz
· System Memory: 32 MB Direct Rambus
· Memory Bus Bandwidth: 3.2 GB per second
· Co-Processor: FPU (Floating Point Multiply Accumulator x 1, Floating Point Divider x 1)
· Vector Units: VU0 and VU1 (Floating Point Multiply Accumulator x 9, Floating Point Divider x 1)
· Floating Point Performance: 6.2 GFLOPS
· 3D CG Geometric Transformation: 66 million Polygons Per Second
· Compressed Image Decoder: MPEG2
Graphics : "Graphics Synthesizer"
· Clock Frequency: 150MHz
· DRAM Bus bandwidth: 48 GB Per Second
· DRAM Bus width: 2560 bits
· Pixel Configuration: RGB:Alpha:Z Buffer (24:8:32)
· Maximum Polygon Rate: 75 Million Polygons Per Second
Sound : "SPU2+CPU"
· Number of voices: ADPCM: 48 channel on SPU2 plus definable by software
· Sampling Frequency: 44.1 KHz or 48 KHz (selectable)
I/O Processor
· CPU Core: Current PlayStation CPU
· Clock Frequency: 33.8 MHz or 37.5 MHz (selectable)
· Sub Bus: 32 Bit

This is a rough approximation of the System246, as it is apparently slightly modified for each game or manufacturer (e.g. Namco and Sega have their own different revisions)"

Sorry to spread misinformation, just spewing out here what I read elsewhere... man system16 hasn't been wrong in the past



Guess we all make mistakes

-Nick

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Originally posted by nruva:
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Hmm that's interesting... I took the information from:

<a href="http://www.system16.com/namco/hrdw_system246.htm" target="_blank">http://www.system16.com/namco/hrdw_system246.htm</a>

Which basicly says this:

"System 246 Hardware

CPU : 128 Bit "Emotion Engine"
· System Clock: 300 MHz
· System Memory: 32 MB Direct Rambus
· Memory Bus Bandwidth: 3.2 GB per second
· Co-Processor: FPU (Floating Point Multiply Accumulator x 1, Floating Point Divider x 1)
· Vector Units: VU0 and VU1 (Floating Point Multiply Accumulator x 9, Floating Point Divider x 1)
· Floating Point Performance: 6.2 GFLOPS
· 3D CG Geometric Transformation: 66 million Polygons Per Second
· Compressed Image Decoder: MPEG2
Graphics : "Graphics Synthesizer"
· Clock Frequency: 150MHz
· DRAM Bus bandwidth: 48 GB Per Second
· DRAM Bus width: 2560 bits
· Pixel Configuration: RGB:Alpha:Z Buffer (24:8:32)
· Maximum Polygon Rate: 75 Million Polygons Per Second
Sound : "SPU2+CPU"
· Number of voices: ADPCM: 48 channel on SPU2 plus definable by software
· Sampling Frequency: 44.1 KHz or 48 KHz (selectable)
I/O Processor
· CPU Core: Current PlayStation CPU
· Clock Frequency: 33.8 MHz or 37.5 MHz (selectable)
· Sub Bus: 32 Bit

This is a rough approximation of the System246, as it is apparently slightly modified for each game or manufacturer (e.g. Namco and Sega have their own different revisions)"

Sorry to spread misinformation, just spewing out here what I read elsewhere... man system16 hasn't been wrong in the past



Guess we all make mistakes

-Nick</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yeah it is wierd that the Systems 16 webpage says this, they are usually a very reliable source of information. I do know for sure first hand though that the System 246 can be used with other Kits. Very nice hardware thats for sure.

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